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MMS Won't Delete And Keeps Resending To Phone

I was trying to get MMS to work on T-Mobile in the US and sent some messages via email to my phone. I get the message headers but can't get the rest of the message. I don't really care about this since I don't really use MMS but whenever I delete the messages, they get sent back to the phone within a few hours. T-Mobile is not at all surprisingly useless here and of no help.
Can anyone advise as to how to permanently delete these messages or better still get rid of the otherwise useless MMS app (preferably without a hard reset and reloading a modified ROM image?)
db

So you got it to actually send?? Can you tell me what the settings are?
I also have a problem with received MMS being re-sent. However, it appears that after a few days they get removed from the server. I was getting dozens of re-sends a day, and now very few, so it seems to be going away.

I couldn't get it to send from the phone. I sent it from my PC to my T-Mo 'email' address >> ##########@tmomail.com. Instead of the SMS inbox handling it, the MMS application picks it up (the headers only). I don't know how anyone has MMS running in the States with the pre-installed app. No matter what I do, it never works.
Hopefully, the server will just give up on them eventually as you seem to have discovered.
A Mini T-Mo Rant: T-Mo US is just terrible when it comes to trying to help with this stuff. I called them asking them to delete the messages for me and they replied that it is a hardware problem on my end!! I wasn't asking them to solve the problem of not being able to receive it. Clearly, T-Mo's server keeps trying to send it and all they had to do was delete it. I don't think it takes a technical genius to figure this out, let alone their 2nd tier support!
db

Yeah, I had a similar useless conversation. I asked for the server settings, and all they'd say is, "We can't support that device because we don't know what the software looks like." After a half dozen times explaining that I could manage the config if they would simply tell me THEIR server settings, I gave up.

It does amaze me how far behind the US is in terms of phone tech. We lag just about everywhere in virtually every respect of telephony.
db

Yup. Used to be I could call the T-Mobile support center in the UK and get good help. Ironically, that was before VoiceStream joined T-Mobile. Now they tell me I have to call US support.

Any FREE SMS programs?

Hey guys,
Just been browsing around the net lately and see that you can send free text messages from certain web sites and now i hear ICQ. BUT, I was wondering if anyone here had written a program that will actually use the GPRS connection from our Data Plan to send out text messages? I know its a long shot, but i think it could work.
Reason : When you goto these sites . . (Ex. txtdrop.com; smseverywhere.com; etc) they allow you to send free text messages to almost any wireless carrier, some even just have you put in United States and then the number and it finds it for you. So i was thinking . . . Why not make a program that will do the same thing using those web-sites or something and instead of putting your name in where it says "you name" you just have it put in your wireless number so they can respond. SO, ur only getting charged for recieving txt messages.
I thought this up because i am with cingular myself here is the USA, and their plans is either 4.99 for 200 messages sent and recieved, or 19.99 for 3,000 sent and recieved!!! I already pay 39.99 for my F***IN unlimited data plan, WHY NOT USE IT!!!! If anyone can think of a way to get this to work, that would be AMAZING!!
I've heard there are programs that use ICQ to send and recieve free texts to phones but i haven't found anything for Windows Mobile. If someone knows of a way, or can think of an easy fix, please feel free to let me know ASAP!

i too iam trying to find this
iam on a company free data plan and had a bb 7290 that allowed me to send txt via gprs, i have an email account setup that allows me to send txt message via it on-line eg phonenumber @ sms.domain.co.uk this works online and can txt for free, ive setup a new email account that points to the ingoing outgoing address on my pda and currnetly testing this if you have any more info let me know please.

Text Messaging Over Internet

I have unlimited internet for my HTC Vogue, but no free text messaging. Does anyone know of a program that lets you send text messages over the internet instead of as a text message? I know there are websites that do this, but they're kinda annoying to use. I'm on Bell too if thats important.

Buy a $5 text messaging package But seriously it’s probably going to be a bigger pain to jump through those kinds of hoops then it’s worth. What if someone text messages you? It will come in as a regular text message, it will not get routed through the Internet even if you send your original txt through some website or via some special software.
I use OctroTalk as my XMPP client (jabber/Google Talk) to get connected to Google Talk.

You can use AIM. I'm not sure if it sends SMS to out of the US though, but if they are in the US just do +1(number)

It may be possible, but I haven't seen this. SMS is huge these days, so I'm sure carriers try to prevent this from happening since they probably make a good deal of money with these text packages.
I do know however, that when I used to use the VZAccess Manager to tether my phone, I could sends SMS. I didn't have a text plan, since it was just a USB modem, turns out the text would take away from my allowed data usage of 5GB. I kept asking the rep how it was possible, but of course she had no idea.
Either way, just spend the small amount of money for the text, I'm sure you get a bunch for about $5.

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SMS is huge these days
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SMS is really very useful. It’s like IM everywhere all the time. The new ROM from Bell Mobility for the Vogue has threaded SMS which makes it just like having an IM app.
I also have various RAID arrays and environmental monitors (temp, humidity, etc) in server rooms across the GTA that will SMS me when something goes wrong. It’s such a great way for me to add value to the services I offer my customers. I can walk in their front door because something is wrong before they even know there is a problem.
The Fish

Text messaging over the Internet is trivial. All you have to do is send an email to the carrier's EMAIL/SMS gateway. The tricky thing of course is that you need to know the carrier of the recipient and the carrier's gateway. There are lists of these things on the Internet. For example, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateway
Just a few are:
Verizon: [email protected]
Sprint: [email protected]
Tmobile: [email protected]
AT&T/Cingular: [email protected]
Using any decent email client to send the email. Limit the entire text to 160 characters. The other issue is what you put down as a reply address, your email address or your phone's address (which is just like that listed above). That would depend on whether you *really* don't want to RECEIVE replies by SMS either.
If you don't know the recipient's carrier, you can try the service TELEFLIP.COM. Send the textmsg email to:
[email protected]
and it will figure out the carrier for you. It mostly works, but isn't 100%.
Oh, and there are also analogous carrier email gateways for MMS (picture msgs). They are also listed in the link above. For example, for Sprint, send the email with the pic attached to:
[email protected]

awesome, thanks.
that's exactly what I was hoping for.
I know it's only $5, but I'm pretty cheap

verizon releases mobileim for windows mobile

along with the xv6800 update and vzwnavigator, verizon has also released mobileim for windows mobile. its an IM client that uses text messages for communication. so now you can send ims from aim, live messenger, or yahoo, on the verizon network without using data. however, it does consume sms messages, but thats not bad if you have an unlimited messaging plan and no data plan (like me)
EDIT: Upon testing the software I noticed that the software initiates a data connection. According to the download page it only uses sms messages. going to call verizon tomorrow morning and find out whats actually going on. (i really had hoped that this would be like the get it now mobile im, as i mentioned before, i have no data plan. unfortunaty for me it started using the data network)

I installed and tried it a few days ago. The interface is clean. But you can't be logged in to more than one account at once. If you're on Yahoo IM and receive a message on AIM, you must exit Yahoo IM to read the new message. I prefer an integrated program, like JiveTalk or IM+.
I have unlimited data but a very modest allotment of phone minutes; since I knew I'd be using the Web and JiveTalk extensively, I didn't pay extra to get free SMS. For me, the new Verizon IM service would cost, right?
Does anyone know whether it accepts file transfers? I think it does not.

I tried to have a PDA phone with no data plan for a while... I had a text message plan and thought that it would cover me. I then noticed that when I sent/received a text message my data would connect.
I called VZW and they indicated that on a smart phone, when you send or receive a text message you use data... on a non-smart phone you consume minutes. Either way you pay two times to send or receive text messages.
Verizon does have a 29.99 unlimited data plan... I would suggest that... 1 MB of data with no data plan is like $15 bucks.

Ah, great: Since I have the $30 data plan, I can use this Verizon app for free. I think I'll try it out, if only to advise my friends whether to use it or a third-party app like my beloved BeeJive JiveTalk.

Do you have a cab? i can't find the download for this and my girlfriend is dying to have aim on her touch

lol.
this is funny. verizon not happy only with getting their money-hungry grips on gps but now they're tryin' to leech the instant messaging too... seriously, this is why i got a pda in the first place, cuz it's the only platform verizon isn't locking down and forcing you to use their money-sucking apps. now they're clearly trying to corner that market as well.

block fb sms

I have an interesting questionn - at least it is to me. Working with my daughter and facebook I've found that I have not control at all (technically speaking) over facebook messages to her phone. I am a t-mobile customer, I use family allowances but nothing set in family allowances will block the fb sms from coming in or going out. -this is interesting!
fb comes in as a bulk type sms, it isn't a 10 digit number that can be blocked.
fb messages are not logged as sms messages on the t-mobile site.
Even disabling the phone in family allowances doesn't stop the fb message from coming in.
Thoughts?
Yes, I realize there is more to working with my daughter and facebook from a parenting standpoint, I'm not here to talk about that My thread here is about the technical side of this. What if it weren't facebook? It seems there are sms type messages that can't be blocked from the phone.

isnt that an option from within the facebook website itself? i.e. 'send me a text when i get updates' or something like that?

samsamuel said:
isnt that an option from within the facebook website itself? i.e. 'send me a text when i get updates' or something like that?
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Yes it is. But I, like I'm sure many other parents, thought that I could completely control this from family allowances. Since it's supposed to be an sms message and I can stop messaging in many different ways, I assumed that I could enforce our time schedule with the family allowances tool. But - I was wrong
So, yeah I can login to fb and turn that off, I really don't want to go that far with monitoring her though. I could turn the whole messaging service off on her phone, I'm guessing thta would do it - but I don't want to do that and I can go in and physically take the phone from her also - that's all a different subject
I thought it interesting for us phone geeks that a message comes in, isn't logged, can't be tracked, monitored, blocked or controlled.

gotcha.
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I don't have a solution really, but I do suspect that it has to do with how the messages don't have a regular number...I'm guessing that when the fb texts come in, they're tagged with short-form number like "22622" etc, yes? I'm just assuming that based on the behavior of other bulk-source texts, from services like yahoo messenger, and banks, for example. (I have my account setup so I get texts with any account activity).
I would get on the phone with tech support (and not regular customer service, if you can help it) and demand to know why you can't block bulk texts like that...they may have another way than just your regular acct mgmt settings, but I don't know. That's where I would start if it were me

You can only stop the messages one of two ways:
Login to facebook and turn off the "SMS Notification" option.
Send the word "STOP" to the number that the notifications are coming from. This message has to come from her phone.
Both of those options seem to violate the strictures you have placed upon yourself. I guess the next move is yours.
I might also mention that accessing your child's facebook account without her permission is considered hacking and you could get arrested if she contacts the authorities. This is not a joke, there is a case going now along similar lines where a mother did this to a son.
You certainly can't control the time that these messages arrive. These are so-called "opt-in" services and do not count as regular SMS/MMS.
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As a parent, I believe I understand your concerns: The messages come at times where your child should be in school, studying or sleeping.
If this is the case, you might consider creating a "charging area" in the family area (kitchen, living room, downstairs bath, etc). Everyone should leave their chargers here and then drop their phones off in the evening for charging.
Unless your child uses their phone as an alarm clock, this is not an unreasonable request.
This also gives your child the opportunity to build trust with you, as the phone will be left in a semi-public place, where anyone could check the phone for inappropriate content.