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I've a problem with phone calls output. With original software order was: internal speaker, jack, bluetooth. Now with Dutty's order is: i.s., bluetooth, jack. So for example, when I'm listening mp3s in car (through jack) and someone calls me (bluetooth headset connected) I have to pull out jack cable or his/her voice will be send to car speakers. I've spend at least half an hour looking through all system options, HDTweak and ACT - nothing. Is there any way to change this order?
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Dear All,
I can listen to my podcasts from my 8525 by hooking up to my car stereo via a HTC connector to 3.5mm jack. A problem though is the fact that on an incoming call, I can hear ringer through car stereo but when I pick up, caller cannot hear me speak to them.
Can I possibly install some software or hack the adaptor so that the 8525 internal microphone keeps working even though there is the connector present at the bottom of the device?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.
Jock said:
I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.
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What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo? Tricking the car into thinking its actually engaged in a call so it plays music. Might have to be something done on the phone side to transmit the music as a call and then when you receive a call the music stops and you can answer the call and when the call ends music resumes? Just a thought i dont know if it is possible at all. But you bring up a really good idea.
ptyindian said:
What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo?
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Thanks for the thought, but the stereo doesn't accept bluetooth streams - it simply just has the ability to act as a hands free device.
Any more thoughts anyone? (Although someone has just posted about a device that looks intriguing with AUX and power in)
It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.
mattyman said:
It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?
Sorry. My bad. You are right, I did misread your post.
Jock said:
Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?
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the answer is yes. that is what i do daily.
i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
all you need to do is answer the call using the answer button on your bt headset and not your phone.
in some phones, if you will press the send key on the phone and not the bt headset, the call will transfer to the phone instead of the bt headset.
hope i was able to help.
shlomki said:
i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
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Thank you.
Do you think it matters that you're using headphones rather than a headset? I'm just wondering, since you refer to headphones, if the lack of speaker in your wired device means the call will hand over to the BT device - this will allow me to work out what I need to buy.
hmm i think since your aux input wont really have a mic attached it should hand over the call to the bluetooth headset from what the other person is saying.
Hi, I don't know if this will apply to your stereo setup but I thought I would let you know my setup anyway.
I use the HTC multifunction audio cable http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=171925 which lets me charge my phone via a car charger and use the 3.5mm audio output to the stereos aux input at the same time - all of which are in center armrest compartment.
I use bluetooth connection to the factory installed bluetooth prep (BMW 3-Series). When a call comes in the TP pauses the audio and the BT phone then takes over. When the call ends the TP un-pauses the audio
I just installed a Blaupunkt MP57 on Sunday and did exactly what you're describing. Phone connected via aux playing music, answer or make calls via bluetooth on the stereo and the music pauses then restarts when the call is ended.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-bluetooth-audio-v1-0.html
http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbToggleBT/acbToggleBT-Free--3.html
Both can send all outgoing audio from your WM device via BT headset channel instead of A2DP. It's not advanced audio but it will let you play audio over the headset BT channel. Sound can be tweaked using SRS WOW HD.
ExtUSB is just a port which will enable playing MP3 tracks on for example USB drive? Why not put your connection in USB mode then?
I'm not sure if this will help you, but I bought a Motorola Bluetooth Car Kit. I don't have the "phone" feature built into my car Stereo, so I used the external amplified speaker and mic for "phone" functions. The Car Kit has an Aux Out, with I feed into my car stereo. When I get into the car, the Bluetooth initiates two separate "connections". One for the "phone" and one for the "MP3 Player". You can have either one or both. The music plays through the car stereo (via the Aux Input) and phone calls play the the external Car Kit Speaker. It is like having two independent bluetooth "channels". When I have Voice Commander enabled, it communicates through the "phone" channel, i.e., the Car Kit mic and external speaker. That is also where my incoming email is announced through. My Garmin GPS "speaks" through the Aux out and the Car Stereo though. I'm not sure how these routes are selected. Personally, I would prefer that the GPS also communicated through the "phone" channel, that way if I am listening to the Radio, or Sirius, or a CD (not on AUX-IN), I would still here the GPS voice guidance. I'm not sure if that can be changed or not.
Hope this helps.
I do this all the time. USB to 3.5mm stereo to Pioneer head unit and calls come in over the BT
Thanks all for the input.
Just bought a Brando adaptor:
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=126&products_id=1502
Tested it and Copilot and Music run from the Aux out. Bluetooth hand over perfectly. As an aside, I find WMP is a better MP3 player, simply because I can reduce the volume in the software, but leave Copilot to use the system volume at a slightly higher level so the voice doesn't get lost (the HTC player doesn't seem to have the same capability).
Could have bought the HTC branded device from the same place, but the main lead from the Ext USB is slightly longer and more inflexible so wouldn't easily fit under my car holder.
BTW, since I live close to the shop (plus I love instant gratification as opposed to mail order), I visited the Inkino shop in London. I must say that the staff were very knowledgeable and helpful and the shop has a huge range of HTC accessories (including a branded battery and extended battery for my Universal, which I am planning to resurrect). Not sure about the prices vs ebay, but for the bricks and mortar approach in the UK, where it is difficult to find anything HTC - 1st class!
Is there any way to get the speaker phone active when 3.5mm audio jack is connected? I use an FMtransmitter connected to the 3.5mm to get the sound out in my car speakers, works fine with music and tomtom sound... but when i get a phone call i would like to answer with speaker phone preferable with the sound still from my car speakers, but with the phone mic activated.
It seams like the phone mic is deactivated when 3.5mm is connected.
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2token2 said:
Is there any way to get the speaker phone active when 3.5mm audio jack is connected?
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I don't know the answer to that specific question, but...
I have a very similar set up to you (though the 3.5mm jack runs directly to my car stereo), using PocketMusic and TomTom.
The in-built mic is active in this case - If I get an incoming call, or make an outgoing call, the audio out is routed through my car stereo (i.e. I hear the other person over the car speakers). The mic still picks up my voice and I can have a conversion. I'm using a regular 3.5mm->double RCA lead (i.e. there is no mic present on the audio jack).
Hi,
I've been using the Car Dock Home v3 app launched from HTC's car dock when I'm driving. Yesterday I was also listening to some podcasts form the phone by connecting the headphone jack to my car's aux input. I had a bluetooth headset connected.
Then someone decided to call me and it was disastrous. The car mode causes the phone to read the incoming phone number and let you answer or decline by voice, which is neat, but instead of going through the car's speaker (headphone out) it goes through the built in speaker. I don't know why it would do this, but with the car noise it was impossible to hear it.
Then after answering the call, instead of going through the bluetooth headset, I heard the caller through the car's speakers (sounded great) but they couldn't hear me at all. I can switch to the bluetooth headset manually, but it's too dangerous to try and navigate the tiny buttons and text while driving. With another caller they could hear me, though.
So I can't figure out what the phone is doing when you have something plugged into the headphone jack but no wired mic. It seems like the phone's microphone is active, but not in speakerphone mode, so it's probably too quiet on the other end to clearly hear me unless I talk right into the mic, which I can't do while driving.
So questions:
1. Is there any way to increase the internal mic gain to use the phone connected to the car speakers as a true speakerphone (and can this be done without creating echo/feedback)?
2. Is there any way to have the phone automatically prioritize a connected bluetooth device over the headphone jack?
3. If the answers to 1. and 2. are no, is there any way to have a car mode specific dialer screen with nice big buttons for selecting audio source manually?
4. Can I get the car mode to read incoming call info into the headphone jack rather than the internal speaker?
Thanks!
Key action you must take when your phone rings...
DON'T touch the screen. Click your BT device to answer.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something
jggimi said:
Key action you must take when your phone rings...
DON'T touch the screen. Click your BT device to answer.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something
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Are you sure that works? I didn't try that, but I used my bluetooth headset to launch genius and dial a contact by voice. Everything worked through the bluetooth headset, but once the call connected, it switched to the car's speakers.
I'm pretty sure that the car mode initiates hands-free mode, which automatically turns on the phones internal speaker when a call comes in. See if there's a setting that prevents hands-free from turning on in the app. That might fix things the way you use them.
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While the phone is ringing, activate the connection via BT. It works for me now, and it worked on the stock ROM. But you don't ned to take my word for it, just try it.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something
I'll give that I try when I get a chance. There is an option to automatically enable speakerphone in the car dock app, so maybe disabling that will also fix the problem. However, so long as the headphone jack isn't in use, it works exactly like I want it to:
If the bluetooth headset is connected, it gets used for answering and making calls. If the bluetooth headset is not connected, when answering or making calls the phone's spakerphone is automatically enabled.
The issue is that with the headphone jack in use, it seems to take precedence over both internal speakerphone and bluetooth headset.
My guess is that if the headphone jack is in use the phone assumes that you're using a wired headphone/headset with its own mic. If that were the case, the behaviour actually makes sense: if you've got a wired headset in your ears, that's where you'd want the audio to go. I suppose if there is no external mic but you're wearing headphones, using the internal mic without speakerphone gain also may make sense: you'd hear through the headphones and hold the mic near your mouth to talk. The problem is it ignores the case of external speakers versus headphones. Especially in car mode it should be smarter about how it deals with these options. Of course, some of the issue may be due to the third party dock app, so maybe I'll have to try with that disabled or contact the developer to see if he can do anything.
It's little usability issues like this that make me want to drop Android, although I have no idea if there's actually anything that really works better.
tmagritte said:
...It's little usability issues like this that make me want to drop Android.....
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Training yourself to touch the earpiece instead of the phone to answer is not overly difficult. It only took me one or two "oops" experiences to stop touching the phone.
I use the phone and aux input all the time while driving, but the difference is that I don't have a bluetooth headset involved.
Audio comes out of the headphone jack and I speak into the phone's mic and it works fine. Turn the phone volume to max and use the headunit volume to adjust.
So I have had a chance to test it. It's true, if you use the bluetooth headset's button to answer a call it does get properly routed to the headset. If you answer by taping answer on the screen it gets routed the headphone/speaker + internal mic.
It does also seem like the internal mic is used correctly and pretty much sounds as good as the speaker phone mode, so answering a call while wearing headphones or using speakers doesn't seem like it should be a problem (assuming echo isn't an issue with speakers). Don't know why that one caller couldn't hear me, but that could be some other reason.
What doesn't work, though, is initiating a call from the bluetooth headset if the headphone jack is in use. Using the bluetooth headset button to initiate genius voice dialing works as expected until the call is connected, at which pint it then gets routed to the headphone/mic instead of the bluetooth headset. There doesn't seem to be any way around this. Of course, since you are initiating the call, it's probably not too bad to just unplug the headphone jack first...
Hi all,
Basically, I'm trying to figure out if the subject is possible.
What is happening now is that if I have a standard stereo audio cable plugged in (non-mic) with BT connected to a headset and I receive a call, the audio for the call goes through the headset jack instead of the BT, and because of that there is no mic to pick up my voice. This leaves me able to hear the caller, but them not able to hear me.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Ben
Fmstrat said:
Hi all,
Basically, I'm trying to figure out if the subject is possible.
What is happening now is that if I have a standard stereo audio cable plugged in (non-mic) with BT connected to a headset and I receive a call, the audio for the call goes through the headset jack instead of the BT, and because of that there is no mic to pick up my voice. This leaves me able to hear the caller, but them not able to hear me.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Ben
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Had sort of the same thing happen to me, except I tried making a BT call while plugged into headphone jack and other end was plugged into my car's aux port. Started to make the call and quit. Guess its another limitation of the current set of roms, if I'm reading correctly.
My question is under android I would have a microphone on the keyboard so that if I was going to navigate somewhere I could just hit that and say where I wanted to go instead of typing out a long address. I am using HTC Locations, and don't see any provision for allowing me to speak my destination point.
I don't think that's possible yet, but there is a lot in the way of BT profile and audio settings that may help that. we'd probably want to look for something that doesn't auto cut off when a jack is inserted
as it stands, BT is buggered (music playback) on ultrafruit ROMs anyway so we're not missing much, xbmods ROM worked fine but his left for pastures new and everyone else is being silent on the matter.