Hello
Just got my blackstone, had it for a few days and i need to charge it every day, almost 2 times a day with moderate use. I turned off 3G, turned down the backlight. But still, if i just mess with it a little, in settings and so on, i can litteratly see the battery life getting lower. An hour ago it was 100%, now its on 83%. Any one who got some pointers on this?
Thanks.
I had a similar issue with mine, got it a couple of weeks ago with a stock Orange UK rom onboard.
Battery hasn't fully depleted, but I usually charge it everynight as it quick charges.
I've since put Dutty's 3.9XT Turbo rom on and battery life has been a lot better.
For example, charged overnight last night (from 59%) and am now at 90% after a few texts and emails. Normally I struggle to hold a 3G signal in my office so its alternating between G, 3G and H all the time, which also drains the battery, and have a push mail application running in the background.
I also charge it in the car in my cradle to and from work. Could probably get two days at a push if I needed to, but it would require charging in the car as well to do that.
Thanks. I flashed it with the energy rom, and the battery really sucks. What does actually the "H" mean, when that is in the status field? "E" is edge, G is 3g, but "H" is?
Try disabling 3g to see better battery life. I think my battry life is quite good without 3g. Running latest energy rom. H is hspda I think. Disable that also to check the affect on battery life.
Thanks. Ive done all that. 7 hours ago the battery was at 100%, now its at 15%. Ive texted 5 messages, and made 2 phonecalls. If i go into settings f.example, press a little, i can see the % gone down a few. Something must seriously be wrong.
bthelastman said:
Thanks. Ive done all that. 7 hours ago the battery was at 100%, now its at 15%. Ive texted 5 messages, and made 2 phonecalls. If i go into settings f.example, press a little, i can see the % gone down a few. Something must seriously be wrong.
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Yeah, somethings up with it. To compare I took mine off the charger 7 hours ago sent 4 emails, used gps 3 times, browsed several sites for a total of about 45 min., made two short calls and I'm down to 75%. Thats all on edge.
bthelastman said:
Thanks. Ive done all that. 7 hours ago the battery was at 100%, now its at 15%. Ive texted 5 messages, and made 2 phonecalls. If i go into settings f.example, press a little, i can see the % gone down a few. Something must seriously be wrong.
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Definitely sounds like a more serious issue.
I have 3G and HSDPA on all the time and still get through about 25% battery during most of the day, with a few texts, a call or two and some email/browsing etc.
I also make sure that I close any other applications that I've finished with to calm memory and processor usage down.
Thanks. Yes, it sounds like an issue. Wish i had you guys battery. I can litteratly see the % go down, if i go to settings, press something go back and so on. Bought a new 1350mah battery on ebay, hope that would do the trick. Its bugging me sooo much, breaking swet becouse of it, lol.
Did you also turn off bluetooth and wireless? I get three days out of mine without 3G.
Yeah, all that stuff is off. Only edge is on. The battery must be faulty, thats the only thing i can think of. Example, made a phonecall now for 5 minutes, it dropped 10% on the battery.
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Yeah, all that stuff is off. Only edge is on. The battery must be faulty, thats the only thing i can think of. Example, made a phonecall now for 5 minutes, it dropped 10% on the battery.
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bthelastman,
Try these following steps to recalibrate your battery.
1) Turn off the phone.
2) Let it charge overnight and don't unplug it.
3) In the morning, use the phone till it is down to 10% (Don't go lower than this number).
4) Turn off the phone, and do a full-charge again.
Repeat these steps 2 ~ 3 times and see if the battery gets better. Sometimes, it is not that the battery is bad, but merely the calibration is a little off. Always try to charge your phone when it is turned off, it keeps the accuracy of the battery lasting much longer without having to do a full-discharge.
Let us know how this works out for you.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Thank you PoisonWolf, i will test this out. Thanks.
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bthelastman,
Try these following steps to recalibrate your battery.
1) Turn off the phone.
2) Let it charge overnight and don't unplug it.
3) In the morning, use the phone till it is down to 10% (Don't go lower than this number).
4) Turn off the phone, and do a full-charge again.
Repeat these steps 2 ~ 3 times and see if the battery gets better. Sometimes, it is not that the battery is bad, but merely the calibration is a little off. Always try to charge your phone when it is turned off, it keeps the accuracy of the battery lasting much longer without having to do a full-discharge.
Let us know how this works out for you.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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PoisonWolf mate these techniques used to work on old battery but the new lithium batteries don't need these manual calibration process...
akash_nu said:
PoisonWolf mate these techniques used to work on old battery but the new lithium batteries don't need these manual calibration process...
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akash_nu,
I beg to disagree. What I am saying is, sometimes, the battery in itself can hold the right amount of charge, but the onboard motherboard thinks it is not holding the right amount of charge. The full-discharge helps correct this issue.
If you don't believe me, keep charging your TouchHD whenever it is at 80 ~ 90% for a couple of months and you'll notice a "drop" in how fast your battery drains.
Cheers.
I definitely agree with this.
My Touch HD kept dying after a couple of hours, even when charging it over night. So I turned my phone off and charged it over night with a wall charger (instead of USB) and then it lasted for 48 hours with the same usage.
I think the battery tells the phone it is fully charged even when it is not. So like you say, it just needs recalibrating.
Not sure why the post appeared twice, I only submitted once!
Hi,
The button to the top wright of the phone, to close apps, the screwdriver icon says 59%. I guess that means running 59% of its power of whatever?
Shouldnt it say like 0%, since no apps are running?
Thanks.
After eight months and having my battery give me 2 minutes of talktime on a four hour charge, Orange UK have replaced it for me FOC.
bthelastman said:
Hi,
The button to the top wright of the phone, to close apps, the screwdriver icon says 59%. I guess that means running 59% of its power of whatever?
Shouldnt it say like 0%, since no apps are running?
Thanks.
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That % shows the amount of free RAM your device has, not how much power it is consuming..
Not sure why you are having this problem, I use BB Connect all day at work and am on the phone for several hours, I don't have 3G in the US but notice if I have WiFI on it drains the battery fast.
Are you sure you don't have a program running that is always looking for the internet? You could try HD tweaks and turn off the internet all together and see if that helps.
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ok guys as advised by someone i fully drain my vodafone magic till it dies and then charge it to a 100%.
last night i did the same just before goin to sleep,when i woke up in the morning the battery was at 76% after about 8 hours.I just had 1 missed call,1 sms,1 tweet and 1 email.
How can the battery drain so fast for no work at all???
pls help......
Do you have alot of widgets running? What do you have switched on, Bluetooth,GPS,WiFi? How often do you have the "Data Synch" set for? All of these drain the battery, if they are all working at the same time it goes pretty quick.
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Woa! For the battery to drain overnight to 76% is crazy. never had this problem with my magic. It actually last very long.
But 76% overnight most likely means your battery is faulty and or you are leaving gps,wifi,and have quite a few things running on the phone like ClintonH stated.
however if you have everything off, as well as the brightness set low. Then contact Vodafone and let them know your issue. they should replace your battery at a free cost.
I suggest people use their battery for a week or 2 to see better results with their battery life. I started having poor battery life with my magic but now I can last about 2 day before I recharge it again.
As other user mentioned, it also depend what you have on or running in the background when your phone is on standby. I suggest you use task manager applications to kill unnecessary applications that might be running.
thanks guys
nope i have gps bluetooth and wifi turned off
i turned the background data off from settings
will try gettin task manager and see if it makes a diff!
thanks once again
also sometimes my trackball keeps flashing white for some reason.....there is no notification....is there any reason for this???
celester340 said:
also sometimes my trackball keeps flashing white for some reason.....there is no notification....is there any reason for this???
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Yes, are you by any chance downloading apps? Sometimes they hang and the download stops / continues lots of times. And when they complete your trackball flashes white.
ok thank mate i'll keep note of that!
I read a quite interesting post in the vodafone forum.
A user complained about the battery life of his HTC Magic. Check the answer from Wayne_Vodafone:
The HTC Magic employs a battery that requires overcharging and topup charging. You must charge it as much and as often as possible. The more you charge the better the battery life becomes. So after a few charges you should see the benefit of this. Letting the charge drain out undoes this so try and charge as often as possible
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It actually seems to work. At least for me, try it for yourself.
I have to charge my HT-03A every night if I do not want it to die the next day. I am assuming that is why HTC gives you two batteries, because the battery goes so fast. As long as you are able to carry that second battery around with you, and be able to charge it every night, I don't really see a problem. But for it to go from 100% to 76% overnight means you are running programs that you do not need to. I will add that I have Wi-Fi continuously on, and my Contacts and Calendar are continuously synchronized. With barely any use I am usually at around 50% by the end of the day.
Isilmalith said:
I read a quite interesting post in the vodafone forum.
A user complained about the battery life of his HTC Magic. Check the answer from Wayne_Vodafone:
It actually seems to work. At least for me, try it for yourself.
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Pretty interesting, and that was an official vodafone response? Why wouldn't HTC say that in the first place? Will give it a go anyway...
Yeah, was a official Vodafone Response.
For me: I've loaded mine over night this morning, now its 19:26 and it's still over 85%. I used it for some SMS, receive a MMS and some WLAN.
ok guys thank u so much for the responses,im gonna give it a go too!
im using taskiller and defi my battery life has improved cause i keep killin the apps im not using
about the flashing trackball.......it still happens...no notifications.....
You never want to drain a Lithium-Ion battery. NiCd batteries have memory, in which it's better to drain them. But not Li-Ion. They will die quicker if you do
ok thanks xantonin.....
i charged my phone to 100%,then made a call for 41 min,battery went to 91%.
went to sleep immediately after that,woke up in morning with 1 missed call and 1 sms,after 8 hours......battery at 70%......thats not right is it?
celester340 said:
ok thanks xantonin.....
i charged my phone to 100%,then made a call for 41 min,battery went to 91%.
went to sleep immediately after that,woke up in morning with 1 missed call and 1 sms,after 8 hours......battery at 70%......thats not right is it?
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That could be right.
Depends on what's running.
Where are you checking for 100%?
If you are charging until the green light comes on - that's 90%. The phone takes longer to charge passed 90% than it does to charge up to 90%.
I charged to 99%, and drove around with the GPS on for a few hours (about 2) and came back at about 75%.
However some days, when I charge my phone over night (true 100%), I can listen to music on my way to work (40 mins) on my phone, play with it a bit at work, and 3 hours later it will say 94%.
So, the battery is very touchy it seems...
Try turning off 3G (It's still pretty fast on 2G, try it for a day)
And also make sure GPS is off. Keep your brightness no more than 30%, and make sure WiFi is off. Make sure you don't have any widgets that connect online either.
You should get good standby time
Use apndroid to save battery life
Download apndroid from the Market. Use it to turn off the cellular internet before you go to bed and whenever else you want to save battery life.
There's also an app called Spare Parts in the Market that could help you. As well as giving information about your battery status and battery health, you can also see stastics of your application usage and battery history. A very useful app!
Plus it also enables other features like enabling fancy animations for the keyboard and screen rotation.
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Download apndroid from the Market. Use it to turn off the cellular internet before you go to bed and whenever else you want to save battery life.
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If you longpress the red phone button you can also enable "airplane mode" disabling any radio. Which helps your battery life too.
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If you longpress the red phone button you can also enable "airplane mode" disabling any radio. Which helps your battery life too.
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Thats cool too. But APNdroid allows you to keep using your phone and sms's
hi all i have had to charge this phone so much its kinda doin my head in, last night i charged it and took it off at 6pm fully done and my 11pm after taking approx 30pics + 4vids(4min long each) it was down to very low life.
so i chargeed the battery fully again, and this time from 8am ~ 10am today my battery is at 77% i have done sofar
*backlight set @ 30%
*hspda ON
*Weather, facebook download every 1 hour;
*1call, 5min
*3 SMS got, 5 SMS sent
*1hours playing with phone (general settings)
*took 10 photos
*took 1 vid 3min long
from 100% to 77%,
Simple, turn off 3G. On regular GSM my phone was at 37% after 12 hours with at least 30min talking, lots of browsing, emails, texting, and 30 minutes GPS.
Simple, turn off 3G. On regular GSM my phone was at 37% after 12 hours with at least 30min talking, lots of browsing, emails, texting, and 30 minutes GPS.
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did u run with 3g/hspda on before and did it improve alot or not, as i use net alot and really nead hspda
TBH I doubt you are fully charging in 2 hours. The iPhone is the same, fully charging is not till the meter says 100%, that is more likely 80%.
The battery meter may also need calibrating. Personally I would drain the battery dry by running videos etc, and then charge it back up and leave it charging overnight.
Gajet said:
TBH I doubt you are fully charging in 2 hours. The iPhone is the same, fully charging is not till the meter says 100%, that is more likely 80%.
The battery meter may also need calibrating. Personally I would drain the battery dry by running videos etc, and then charge it back up and leave it charging overnight.
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i charge it alot longer till green light came on not two hours matey, it took two hours to lose that much life lol
ps. i will run a satnav a few hours should run life down and then recharge
My battery was draining fast too. I realised it was because it would stay connected to my data (mobile web for O2 in my case) and never disconnect. I only clicked on the notification bar and saw i was connected to my data for over 1 hour and half. That is a big battery drain. Don't switch to gsm mode - that would suck. What is the point of having such a high end phone and use it in gsm mode?
All I can suggest to you for the time being (until someone figures out how to have data connections auto disconnect after a couple of minutes) is to disable auto downloads for the following:
facebook, weather, mail, stocks, time sync, twitter etc.
You now have to check manually these items. Sucks i know but only way for me to not stay connected to data and drain my friggin battery
That happens to me too..I have everything set to update manually! No internet time no twitter,weather etc..And no other apps!!! And it still connecting by itself and stays this way for hours till i notice it!! Any ideas of what does it try to update??
(dont tell me the obvious ones!!)
My battery was draining fast too. I realised it was because it would stay connected to my data (mobile web for O2 in my case) and never disconnect. I only clicked on the notification bar and saw i was connected to my data for over 1 hour and half. That is a big battery drain. Don't switch to gsm mode - that would suck. What is the point of having such a high end phone and use it in gsm mode?
All I can suggest to you for the time being (until someone figures out how to have data connections auto disconnect after a couple of minutes) is to disable auto downloads for the following:
facebook, weather, mail, stocks, time sync, twitter etc.
You now have to check manually these items. Sucks i know but only way for me to not stay connected to data and drain my friggin battery
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ok sounds like a good plan matey, im currently playing a video over and over to kill my battery 0% then im going to charge from no power while phones turned off, 5% life left lol....common...
i keep getting message battery low may lose data is this true will i lose data on my fone?
on the old PDA's if you drained the battery ( <1% or something like that ) your data can be gone, its like performing a hard-reset... don't know how it is now though... propably its safe, or it turns off before 0%
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on the old PDA's if you drained the battery ( <1% or something like that ) your data can be gone, its like performing a hard-reset... don't know how it is now though... propably its safe, or it turns off before 0%
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You don't have to worry about that any more. A different type of memory is used. You can even take the battery out and leave it for days and all your programs and data are still there.
ok people i completely deaded the battery till it wouldnt turn on and started it charging at 15:43, its now 17:00 and still showing orange led light so i will keep checking every 15min to find out...
1) how long to charge from total flatnesss
2) how long battery last tomorrow on full charge from now to when it conks out again
will keep you updated
just for information: HD2 has a battery that needn't get totally depleted to get the full charging cycle like on older battery packs. On the contrary, the battery suffers when completely discharged. It is recommended not to leave it till the phone dies, this reduces the battery life. Charge it whenever possible. I have mine in active dock when driving in car, as well as when in office. I know the battery life could be better but well...
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just for information: HD2 has a battery that needn't get totally depleted to get the full charging cycle like on older battery packs. On the contrary, the battery suffers when completely discharged. It is recommended not to leave it till the phone dies, this reduces the battery life. Charge it whenever possible. I have mine in active dock when driving in car, as well as when in office. I know the battery life could be better but well...
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i dont mean to say ur lieing or anything but do u ave evidence of this, as so many have told me to totally deplete the battery every time, in a few forums around the net
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*took 1 vid 3min long
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I would imagine video recording puts quite a strain on the battery.
Also don't forget that gorgeously massive screen runs from a 1200mAh-ish battery. I have the Xperia X1, with a 1500mAh battery. When I get the HD2 I can't help but feel there just won't be enough juice to go around.
Lower battery capacity + bigger screen = ever-so-slight reduction in battery.
I wonder whether captive or resistive screens take more power?
I'm using wi-fi at home for all data and the battery is lasting forever!
Strongly recommend tying this - see if it works for you?
ok all i have the full charge time of the battery, from complete flaness 0% life to full charge 100% life time taken
start 15:43 ~ finish 18:12 = TOTAL 3:19min.
now i will take note of all i do on the device and post results tomorrow or the next day if im lucky and it last that long lol
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start 15:43 ~ finish 18:12 = TOTAL 3:19min
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Also the way you charge your battery affects the charge time.
Example:
- Charging through phone using stock charger
- Charging through phone using third-party charger
- Charging using a short USB connection
- Charging using a long USB connection
- Charging through phone with phone off
- Charging through phone with phone on
- Charging through official external battery charger
- Charging through third-party external battery charger
Sometimes stock accessories are slower, others, not so. Some manufacturers refer to a "power charge", for example some Sony Walkmans. For that to work though the phone / device has to be off. Thats how they get those 3min = 3hr charge times.
DAMIEN123_666 said:
ok all i have the full charge time of the battery, from complete flaness 0% life to full charge 100% life time taken
start 15:43 ~ finish 18:12 = TOTAL 3:19min.
now i will take note of all i do on the device and post results tomorrow or the next day if im lucky and it last that long lol
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Erm that's not what I advised. The aim was to re-calibrate the battery meter. All you have done is wait till the batery meter says 100%, whether in reality it's 80%, 75% or whatever. A full overnight charge would have guaranteed that 100% = 100%.
I don't see what you've done other than continue to use it the same as you already were.
I said I doubt you can get 100% in 2 hours, 3:19 isn't much more.
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i dont mean to say ur lieing or anything but do u ave evidence of this, as so many have told me to totally deplete the battery every time, in a few forums around the net
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No he's right, completely draining the battery isn't good and shouldn't be done too often. regularly topping the battery up is the way to go.
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Erm that's not what I advised. The aim was to re-calibrate the battery meter. All you have done is wait till the batery meter says 100%, whether in reality it's 80%, 75% or whatever. A full overnight charge would have guaranteed that 100% = 100%.
I don't see what you've done other than continue to use it the same as you already were.
I said I doubt you can get 100% in 2 hours, 3:19 isn't much more.
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hi i plan to monitor usage till battery drops dead and then tomorrow night or the net if im lucky i will redo the recharge test over night
Ok, guys look... I know there are lots of variables, but I get back from work, it's been 12 hours since my 100% charge, I'm at 26%. I get home, I charge my phone. It's back up to 100% in about 2 hours. I try some weather widgets on my phone, answer 3 emails quickly, I'm down to 83%. Something must be up, right?
I have notice this happen and its because the phone reads the battery is at 100 but you still need to let it charge longer for it to hold the charge. I suggest a full charge then kill it until it shuts off. Then let it charge while off until the LED turns green and maybe for a little time after that. Do that a few times and you should see some improvement.
Ok, well perhaps I'll have to try that then. Can the battery be reconditioned? Do these batteries have memory?
How long have you had the phone? Battery life should improve after having the phone for 5-10 days.
Like what joe333x stated.When I first got my phone I charged it up to 100% and turned it off until the led turned green for about 30mins. After that I get about 16hrs of battery life.
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I've had the phone since last Thursday night (not yesterday) and I know that two times, I unplugged when it was orange. Guess I should have left it.
The other thing possibly battery related is that right now for example, I have thhe little cycling arrows icon on my taskbar. I am 99% positive that I have nothing set up to be syncing for THIS long. It's been on all day. I unplugged at 7:45AM, it's now 11:21AM, I've done maybe 15 text messages, and the phone is at 77%. You can see how I might find this frustrating.
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I've had the phone since last Thursday night (not yesterday) and I know that two times, I unplugged when it was orange. Guess I should have left it.
The other thing possibly battery related is that right now for example, I have thhe little cycling arrows icon on my taskbar. I am 99% positive that I have nothing set up to be syncing for THIS long. It's been on all day. I unplugged at 7:45AM, it's now 11:21AM, I've done maybe 15 text messages, and the phone is at 77%. You can see how I might find this frustrating.
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i understand. i'm having the same problem. my battery died on me after 5hrs of usage, or complete setup, i should say. i just got off the phone w/ t-mo support in hopes of getting a replacement battery. no go. the operator said her phone dies in 2-3hrs, so i should be happy w/ 5. opted me to buy a spare battery for $50. i am very displeased.
you guys have something running in the background for sure ..go into your acocunts and sync the very least turn off the tmo garbage if not all of them except for google.. If you see my thread I've gone over36 hours on one charge
I've got all of them off, even weather cause I'm using Weatherbug.
But I do have background data on. But I don't wanna be completely disconnected to my data. What exactly does background data run?
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you guys have something running in the background for sure ..go into your acocunts and sync the very least turn off the tmo garbage if not all of them except for google.. If you see my thread I've gone over36 hours on one charge
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my 5hr kill is after doing a factory reset. only thing set to sync is google. no facebook or twitter accounts are linked. display is on the minimum. screen timeout is 15sec. no wifi, bluetooth, or gps. so i'm at a lost.
are you still experiencing that kind of life?
Same here. No wifi, no bluetooth, no Google, no GPS. All I have even remotely "automated" are my emails, my text message data, my freakin phone. That's it. It's gotta be the battery charging thing I think because there's nothing else draining my battery and yet the little sync circular arrows are still on my task bar.
Oh, and by the way... since my message at around 11:15 or so, I'm now down from 77 to 70 per cent. 7 percent in an hour without doing anything.
The things like tmobile and weather are set to sync automatically from the factory (meaning theyre set after a wipe) Have you guys gone into the settings and made sure you turned them off??
I have, yes. They have been off all week. 12 hours usually gets me down to about 26 per cent. That's a 6 day average, moderate use.
that doesnt sound too bad for 12 hours.. have you tried killing it a few times and fully recharging?
my thing is, i find it quite unpleasant that i'm having to disable all the basic or advertised functions of my phone just to have the same, if not, worse battery life? i find myself not even wanting to answer some calls because of the thought that one 5min conversation will dock my battery more than 5%.
It is incredibly ridiculous to have to be constantly concerned that if I do a search on the internet, that my phone may die earlier than I can afford. Additionally, I don't wanna be one of those annoying people running around all over the place with an AC adapter trying to plug my phone in every place I go to. Nor do I think I should have to keep a USB cable handy for when I'm at work. Plus, what's the deal with the batteries, do they or do they not have a memory that requires them to be fully charged and then fully discharged?
Hey guys,
I just joined because of this specific issue myself. My girl has the mytouch 3G and she could go for almost TWO DAYS without a charge. I leave my house at 7AM every morning, and return about 7PM. By the time I get home, I've maybe texted a few people, made one or two phone calls, and my battery is sub 30%. I've turned off wifi, bluetooth, and the display is just about as dark as it can go.
I just turned off the background data option, and had to manually go into all the accounts and make sure the sync was also not running. We'll see what happens.
Does anyone know if there is a 2.2 FW for this phone we can use yet? I've read up on user created FW (like cyanogen) because they cut out all the useless crap most of us will never use.
tinpanalley said:
I've had the phone since last Thursday night (not yesterday) and I know that two times, I unplugged when it was orange. Guess I should have left it.
The other thing possibly battery related is that right now for example, I have thhe little cycling arrows icon on my taskbar. I am 99% positive that I have nothing set up to be syncing for THIS long. It's been on all day. I unplugged at 7:45AM, it's now 11:21AM, I've done maybe 15 text messages, and the phone is at 77%. You can see how I might find this frustrating.
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I noticed this too. Its due to that fact that from default there are a bunch of things that sync now not just your gmail account. Go into settings and disable all the unneeded things and you wont see it as much.
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my thing is, i find it quite unpleasant that i'm having to disable all the basic or advertised functions of my phone just to have the same, if not, worse battery life? i find myself not even wanting to answer some calls because of the thought that one 5min conversation will dock my battery more than 5%.
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I have had these issues before and it was almost always due to somthing in the background.
but letting the battery drain till it shuts down then charge 5+ hours then drain again, always going till it dies is the key, it will run a long time after it says it is done...
bhang
bhang said:
I have had these issues before and it was almost always due to somthing in the background.
but letting the battery drain till it shuts down then charge 5+ hours then drain again, always going till it dies is the key, it will run a long time after it says it is done...
bhang
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i'm continuing that "conditioning" now. it died yesterday after 5hrs fresh from a factory reset. i charged it for 8hrs. i will perform another day of drainage and overcharge today.
I had everything turned off. No email, no sync, no wifi, no gps, nothing. I fully charged the battery and unplugged it before I left. Display was never turned on. I wanted to see a completely isolated battery test. The only applications I had active according to my task manager was Launcher Pro.
Time on 10 hours 20 minutes
Battery life left 60%
Battery used 40%
Cell Standby - 40%
Phone Idle - 30%
Android System 20%
Calls (1 missed call) 5%
Display 3%
Maps 2% (Why does maps show up?)
Again this is with absolutely 0 use or syncing going on. Left phone at home, turned on and immediately checked stats when I got back from work.
According to this small test I can't even last a day on a full charge even if I left it completely alone.
Thoughts?
Running stock JI6
Holy stewart Gilligan Griffin.
Why does everyone need to make a thread for personalized information regarding their battery life?!?
I had a g1 n then mytouch n I've never seen such whining over battery life. If I see one more battery thread.......
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at least your reply was helpful.
sj_martin said:
Running stock JI6
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In 1.5 day of standby with every radio off and no sim, my phone only lost about 5% with stock JI6.
I think it is a cool idea. I find that 5% usage for one missed call is very bad. I have really suspected that voice calls kill this battery and that seems to add evidence. 5% for a missed call? That is messed up.
I think this is the aspect of battery life that doesn't get addressed enough: drain during standby. Of course everyone expects to lose some power while the display is on and syncing/other processes are running--but what about when the phone is left untouched? Here are 3 ideas:
3g is a notorious battery drain even when the phone is not being used--use 2g instead.
Freeze or uninstall media hub and other running processes that attempt to run/connect to servers in the background. I removed dmservice, media hub, and all drm processes and this seemed to be helpful.
Use a custom rom--these appear to hold power in standby better than stock roms do.
grennis said:
I think it is a cool idea. I find that 5% usage for one missed call is very bad. I have really suspected that voice calls kill this battery and that seems to add evidence. 5% for a missed call? That is messed up.
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To add further detail usage time was 45 seconds for the missed call.
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I had everything turned off. No email, no sync, no wifi, no gps, nothing. I fully charged the battery and unplugged it before I left. Display was never turned on. I wanted to see a completely isolated battery test. The only applications I had active according to my task manager was Launcher Pro.
Time on 10 hours 20 minutes
Battery life left 60%
Battery used 40%
Cell Standby - 40%
Phone Idle - 30%
Android System 20%
Calls (1 missed call) 5%
Display 3%
Maps 2% (Why does maps show up?)
Again this is with absolutely 0 use or syncing going on. Left phone at home, turned on and immediately checked stats when I got back from work.
According to this small test I can't even last a day on a full charge even if I left it completely alone.
Thoughts?
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Cell Standby indicates that there is an activity that polls something from the network.
if you are so concerned about what it might be, you can see when and how much data is being used by going to your TMO account online and check for the data usage - one of the good features TMO put in place is actually tell you when your phone connected to get what amount of data over the data connection, does not tell you what it was doing though.
Yeah, something is going very wrong in your phone. When my phone is on standby with just 2G on it drains less than 1% per hour. I would definitely recommend getting rid of the drm service and media hub (and Daily Briefing). I also use Autostarts to keep all kinds of random programs from starting at inappropriate times (Really Slacker, does your app need to launch every time the time zone changes?)
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I would definitely recommend getting rid of the drm service
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It is.... DrmUA.apk?
According to Samsung the phone should last 450 hours in standby mode...
Anyway, yeah, I'd be curious to see the same test done with 2g only.
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According to Samsung the phone should last 450 hours in standby mode...
Anyway, yeah, I'd be curious to see the same test done with 2g only.
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450 hours rofl.
Looks like i'm going to go off stock and try out some roms now. I assume bionix 1.9 is the new hotness out there? Going to flash and try the same test again and post results.
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According to Samsung the phone should last 450 hours in standby mode...
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I wonder if Samsung's definition of "standby mode" is what the rest of us call "off".
I've never had any kind of batt life with this phone...charge everday overnight...start work at 8, use here and there for navi (around 10 mins max, maybe 2x a day) about 30 min avg talk...and mp3 player...get home by 4 and always at 30% or (most often ) less...have had stock/ bionix roms, never changed, no matter what build....it's pathetic..called tmo, they said there are no known issues with batt on this phone...wow...do a google search on it..anyways, they are sending out a new batt..I hope I just got a bad one...seems very random tho, some ppl have all radios on ,screen all the way up and get 10+ hrs...if i left my screen on (say navi on) for more then an hour straight I'd be out of battery..very weird..praying new batt is better...
copied from team whiskey site:
Code:
Battery Conditioning
Does it seem like youre just not getting the battery life you should from your phone? Do all your other friends keep going while you slowly putter into a shutdown? Well pout no more! Simply follow these steps to clear your batter information from the phone and your phone will act better then new! :)
1. Charge phone completely, leave plugged into power
2. Boot into recovery
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot to normal
5. Remove power cable
6. Drain that sucker all the way
7. Recharge fully
8. Rejoice!"
I turned my phone off today. Then I left the house. When I got back the battery was glad to see me. Seriously, I've read just about everyone and almost started my own battery disturbance thread. I've come up with a new thought at least for me. I don't care any more. I have electricity. I have a spare battery and a charger. If my phone wants to last a whole day. Yay! If I use it more because of some game with angry birds or cards or dice, great. I've reached that Mark Twain moment somewhat tweaked when he said,
“Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.”
I'll tweak it with the last 27% of battery left in my feeble vibrant to:
"battery is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it won't matter".
Enough already I say! Lets spare the air. Batteries are meant to be used
Back to the regular reading of all the battery threads now.
I think I had the same issue as you. Cell standby was the biggest drain. When you tap on that, do you see 50% time without signal? If that's the case, this seems to be a bug in Android which was somehow introduced in JI6. The best solution I've found so far is after every boot to put your phone in flight mode for a few seconds and back. This fixes the radio glitch, your time without signal should go down way under 50%, and battery drain should stop. Hope that helps.
You should recondition your battery:
Fully charge
Reboot into recovery wipe battery information
Reboot into OS
Unplug power cable
Let battery FULLY drain (do not plug in until fully dead)
FULLY charge battery (do not unplug until fully charged)
This reconditioning should be done after every ROM flash.
I am LUCKY to get 8 hours of battery life on my brand new stock Epic.. I usually get 4-6 hours. It will NOT last through a normal day of work without putting it on the charger around lunchtime. I take it off the charger around 6:30 AM and I am usually home by 4PM and have to immediately go and charge my phone.
Even if I put it on airplane mode, kill all running applications, and shut the screen off to standby, the phone still seems to suck battery life down very quickly (~5% in 20 minutes on airplane mode, wtf???).. So airplane mode doesn't help.. And I really DON'T want to put it in airplane mode to conserve battery because then my phone is completely useless -- it won't even ring when my wife calls..
Is my battery defective? Please tell me it is... This can't be right..
Are there processes still running that use lots of CPU, even when the stock sprint "task manager" program shows that nothing is running? Is there anything I can do to improve this if I root the phone? How about custom roms? I would really like to run Froyo/Gingerbread anyway.. If anyone has any suggestions to help to make my battery life not such an EPIC FAIL, I would greatly appreciate it.
EDIT: Also wanted to comment on the SLOW CHARGING. With the stock Samsung wall charger, it takes at least a couple of hours to get a full charge. With a USB cable plugged into a PC overnight, it only gets to about 50%. Compared with my previous phone, the HTC TP2, this is really really REALLY slow. It charged in 30-60 minutes and the battery lasted much longer.
I did notice that Samsung only provides a 0.7 amp charger, versus a 1.0A charger for the TP2. Why does Samsung limit the charge current like this? And apparently there is no nueBattery mod driver for android
UPDATE: JuiceDefender looks very promising. Installed the free version and my battery is only down to 95% after one hour. Thanks for the suggestion.
FWIW, I'm getting about the same 8ish hours on mine running DK28. I'm losing about 4% an hour without touching it. I'm seeing some people claiming insane battery life (18 hours with heavy browsing on wifi) I wish I knew how they were managing that.
Wait, it won't even ring when you're wife calls? and you're complaining?
First, the airplane mode means you switch the phone to airplane mode first then switch it back so you won't have time without signal problem which can cause battery drain.
I am able to get 10+ hrs at least by doing the following
1) use airplane mode trick so no TWS
2) use titanium backup to remove a bunch of stock junk
3) use titanium to freeze certain applications (DRM, MediaHub, Qik etc)
4) Have as few applications as possible that constantly pull data
Just yesterday I had 1 day 17 hours before switching
Yesterday when it finally gave up the ghost with the battery indicator blinking i checked my stats.
I had 1 day, 17 hours unplugged. Screen time was around 2 hours and some minutes. I had 45 minutes of talk time.
One thing i will add is I purchased a charger with two batteries off Ebay. Previously when charging with the stock charger as soon as I pulled it off the charger it would read 97%. With the seperate charger it reads 100% for quite awhile before it starts to drop.
And for the record I purchased this charger and two batteries of Ebay for a winning bid of $0.01, plus $9.95 S&H. It was a steal in my opinion.
Unless you are getting near 12 hours of battery life, one of 3 things is occurring:
1) You are using the phone an insane amount
2) You messed something up
3) The battery is defective
For the record, its almost always number 2.
I suggest doing a Factory reset, which will wipe everything off the phone. Then without installing anything or setting your facebook to update every 15 seconds, see how long the battery life lasts. If it is still only 4-6 hours, then your battery is most likely defective.
well of course it won't ring if your wife calls if its in airplane mode. That radio is turned off.
8 hours? That's it? I wouldn't call that normal, but that's just me...
I just plugged my phone in after 4 1/2 days (108 hours) running on a stock 1500maH battery, running Quantum Rom 1.5 (DK17), no special apps running to disable data (aka Juice Defender, etc.), not in airplane mode at all, with the DRM software running, in other words, a more or less 'Stock' configuration (taking into account any differences in the base Rom).
Granted, I barely used the phone in the last 4 days though
muyoso said:
I suggest doing a Factory reset, which will wipe everything off the phone. Then without installing anything or setting your facebook to update every 15 seconds, see how long the battery life lasts. If it is still only 4-6 hours, then your battery is most likely defective.
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I'll do that. For the record, I've got fbook set to never update, and seesmic once every 6 hrs.
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8 hours? That's it? I wouldn't call that normal, but that's just me...
I just plugged my phone in after 4 1/2 days (108 hours) running on a stock 1500maH battery, running Quantum Rom 1.5 (DK17), no special apps running to disable data (aka Juice Defender, etc.), not in airplane mode at all, with the DRM software running, in other words, a more or less 'Stock' configuration (taking into account any differences in the base Rom).
Granted, I barely used the phone in the last 4 days though
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LOL at screen on for 52 minutes total. That is 11.5 minutes a day.
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LOL at screen on for 52 minutes total. That is 11.5 minutes a day.
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Like I said, barely touched my phone in the last 4 days... been feeling a little under the weather so have been at home a lot and in bed doing all my internet stuff and gaming (pogo) on a laptop instead of on my phone.
Since I updated to the leaked Froyo, my battery life has plummeted. It lasts maybe 1/3-1/2 as long as it used to. Turning off 3G has helped immensely though, so that must be the culprit. I used to be able to leave 3G on while at work and make it to bedtime before having to charge it. Or if I shut it off at night (which I usually do), it would make it through my commute to work the next morning. Now, I'm lucky to get through the work day unless I turn off 3G. Huge difference in battery life for me since updating. I'm hoping they fix this in the official release of Froyo.
Well, I've recently found out that if you flash via update.zip while the USB is plugged in, you'll mess up the battery calibration of your device. This is what I did, and i'm pretty sure the cause of my problems. I did find a fix, and here it is:
siliconaddict said:
This is the procedure that works for me:
The following steps should significantly extend the battery life on your phone:
1. Let the battery drain close to empty (5% or less).
2. Connect the phone to the charger (AC or USB, USB is better) while powered on and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged and untill the voltage is at least 4187mV. A higher voltage like 4192mV or more is even better. Use a tool like Overcharged or Battery Indicator to monitor this. Note that a green notification LED does not automatically mean that the voltage is good too.
A higher voltage means in practice that it will take longer to discharge, a lower voltage means that the battery will discharge a lot quicker! The difference can be quite significant!
3. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it off.
4. Reconnect the phone to the charger while powered off and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. The notification LED may turn green immediately. Leave it on the charger for another hour.
5. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.
6. Once the phone is powered on completely (has restarted fully) wait 2 minutes and power it off again.
7. Reconnect the phone to the charger while powered off and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. The notification LED may turn green immediately. Leave it on the charger for another hour.
8. Leave the phone on the charger and reboot into the ClockWorkMod recovery menu and wipe the battery stats via -> Advanced -> Wipe battery stats.
9. Disconnect the phone from the charger, restart the phone and start using it as normal.
From then on always let the battery drain close to empty (5% or less) as often as possible and then charge untill the voltage is at least 4187mV. A higher voltage like 4192mV or more is even better.
Normally you will have to do this only once. However, on all Android ROMs, if you flash a ROM while charging or during the first boot screen on, first boot mucks up the levels Android thinks the phone is at, i.e. Android will think you’re at 100% when maybe you’re only 90% or whatever. So in theory you will need to repeat this every time you flash a ROM while charging!
Better is to make sure the battery is charged before you flash a ROM and just remove the USB/charge cable before you flash a ROM. Put it back in (if you must) after the first boot screen (when the custom screen or whatever shows).
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There is a shorter version that also seems to work well:
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So combining the two bits of info we've compiled, the best way to calibrate your battery is as follows
1: Charge phone whilst on till LED is green.
2: Disconnect phone from charger, power it off.
3: Reconnect to charger with phone powered off and allow to charge till LED is green.
4: Disconnect the phone from charger, power it on. Once completely powered on, turn it off again and reconnect to charger until LED is green.
5: Reboot into recovery (back button held at same time as power button) and wipe battery stats.
Battery should now be calibrated.
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From what I've been told, you don't have to wipe the stats (you need root to do that) but it helps if you can.
I think this may also stem from interrupting the inital charge of the device. I know I did this on both my wife's device and mine (plus my added fubar of flashing with the USB in). Anyway, hopefully I can report some good news tomorrow.
If y'all are really interested in reading a 51 page thread on this, go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
I get 4 or 5 hours if that. I can barely make it to 6. But i probably use my phone more than the average person. Because i take public transportation and browse, stream, email and have 4g connected on my commute back and fourth.
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I get 4 or 5 hours if that. I can barely make it to 6. But i probably use my phone more than the average person. Because i take public transportation and browse, stream, email and have 4g connected on my commute back and fourth.
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I've been running JuiceDefender for about 5 hours now and I am loving it.. I still have 75% and I can still receive calls just fine.. It turns off data when the screen is off, but turns it on at scheduled times (default is 1 min every 15 min) so that your emails/twitters/etc can update like normal. The paid version has even more features so I bought it..
Never mind im dumb for not reading his post. Already answered my question sorry.
sleebus.jones said:
Well, I've recently found out that if you flash via update.zip while the USB is plugged in, you'll mess up the battery calibration of your device. This is what I did, and i'm pretty sure the cause of my problems. I did find a fix, and here it is:
There is a shorter version that also seems to work well:
From what I've been told, you don't have to wipe the stats (you need root to do that) but it helps if you can.
I think this may also stem from interrupting the inital charge of the device. I know I did this on both my wife's device and mine (plus my added fubar of flashing with the USB in). Anyway, hopefully I can report some good news tomorrow.
If y'all are really interested in reading a 51 page thread on this, go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
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Decided not to quote the whole thing but I'm in the process of doing this right now! Took 2 hours to drain my batt from full (running everything and keeping my phone searching for gps constantly in a place where it would also be searching for signal makes quick work of a battery!).
knyque said:
Wait, it won't even ring when you're wife calls? and you're complaining?
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*golf clap*
diego1985 said:
I definitely need to try that out. Can you still receive calls or no?
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Yes, with juice defender I can receive calls and my gmail/twitter/facebook/etc. are all already up-to-date whenever I pick up my phone. It works exactly as before, except my battery is not constantly being drained now.
I guess the downsides are that I might not get a new email notification for 15 minutes, and that there is a service running in the background that may cause some slowdown. Neither has been a problem for me so far. I highly recommend this application for Epic 4G owners. Problem solved, basically.
I usually get 12hrs with moderate use (~2hrs with screen on, half of that is usually on the browser). I turn background data off bc I don't have a twitter and I rarely check Facebook so when I do I just use the browser.
I also noticed that wifi burns more battery on DK28, on 2.1 I would hardly lose any battery on standby with wifi, now I get a 3-4% drain per hour... But with 3g on now I lose less then 1% an hour, it used to be a battery hog.