Battery Warranty period? - Touch HD General

Dear All!
My phone battery is dying 6 and a half month after purchase (after full charging and soft rest, lasted less than 20 hours: includes 40 minutes 2G talking, rest complete standby, no WLAN/bluetooth). Now the "Warranty Card" coming with the phone says it lasts 24 months for the phone and 12 months for the "included accessories". Now since battery is a listed included accessory, so I would assume its warranty shd be 12 months, while digging on net says it is 6 months! Am I missing something? do some special "extra" rules apply to battery? Do you think I qualify for a warranty repair?
Thanks and best regards!
ps: After fading "black" paint, failure to properly play divx, yet another let down!

I've had to buy another battery. It's a 1500MAH one and cost me around £10.00. I couldn't wait around to talk to Orange and faff about with trying to convince them it's a Sale of Goods Act problem (goods must be fit for purpose).
To put into context. My battery can't charge itself. The norm is now 2 bars, occasionally getting up to 80% of the bars.
I can talk on the htc Touch HD for around 3 minutes. I can play a video with the phone in airplane mode for around 50 seconds.
Not really acceptable.

SingaporeAirlines said:
I've had to buy another battery. It's a 1500MAH one and cost me around £10.00. I couldn't wait around to talk to Orange and faff about with trying to convince them it's a Sale of Goods Act problem (goods must be fit for purpose).
To put into context. My battery can't charge itself. The norm is now 2 bars, occasionally getting up to 80% of the bars.
I can talk on the htc Touch HD for around 3 minutes. I can play a video with the phone in airplane mode for around 50 seconds.
Not really acceptable.
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Just let me understand: you had a charging problem (battery would not fully charge), then you replaced it with 1500mAH battery, but still have the same problem i.e. you can barely use the phone, am I right?
Best regards!

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then you replaced it with 1500mAH battery, but still have the same problem i.e. you can barely use the phone, am I right?
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No, the situation described above was with the battery that was given to me.
I bought the 1500mAH battery and now the phone works as per normal.

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Battery question

for those who have it how long does the battery last with a normal use?(calls,sms and internet)Thank you in advance
No exact figure but I can easily go a day without charging and that's using BT carkit for over 1 hour. About 10 calls - 30 mins total and about 10 SMS.
Sometimes have wifi on also in the evenening to use Agile Messenger.
Gav.
Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.
Thats great!thank you!
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Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.
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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.
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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.
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i can concur that my 8525 has horrible battery life, i take mine off the charger around 9am, i dont really make calls, but do use pushmail, and some internet usage, mostly text and email, however mine is usually in need of a charge by 9pm when my low battery alert is coming on.. this is mostly in a UMTS area. My 8125 had far better battery life than this... oh the price we pay for speed
Exactly! That's why I bought an extra battery!
Love the 8525 speed, hate the battery life. I thought Goodlink was the problem, but it sounds like it just adds fuel to the bad battery problem.
If/when an updated rom from cingular comes out, I hope battery life will be the primary fix...
I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125
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I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125
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Just my 2 cents: I too believe that searching for/acquiring/holding a UMTS signal might be the cause for such rapid decline in battery power. However, to be fair I must state that 1) I do not live in a UMTS area, but have read similar posts elsewhere 2) I'm a total WM5 newbie(came from a Treo 650 and Moto Razr 3)Am looking forward to travelling to a UMTS area(Texas for me, I live in Oklahoma) to find out if it's all true. Speed/battery drain, etc.
However: I must add, that just this morning. My battery went down to 30% after 3 days usage. No push email/Good, etc. Heavy text messaging, some browsing, and even one phone call that lasted 59 minutes, over speaker phone. Not to mention the other calls, an occasional game of solitaire or bubble breaker. This possible issue is probably why Cingular is looking to release a larger battery in the future, but for me(right now) mine is ok for where I live and what I use it for.
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
harryk1372 said:
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.
balld said:
Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.
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yup, but it's only available from a japanese online store at the moment.
http://pocketgames.jp/
I don't believe they will ship to overseas though. just send them a note to confirm. it comes with the back phone cover if you mean it by the replacement battery cover. check it out your self at the site.
I'm only getting 8-10 hours on my TyTN. I'm going to be taking it back!
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i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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i'm still at 60% after running it for 25 hours without charging. i'll have to fully discharge it 3 times at least before achieving the stated capacity so i'll have to leave it uncharged for another day. what i'm seeing is definitely more than what i expected.
the link to the site from where i purchased it is pasted in my post above.
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.
lanwarrior said:
That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.
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it is compatible with hermes so you don't have to worry about its compatibility. i don't believe it will damage it with the original hermes charger as i have used it for sometime.
with that said, don't expect any significant difference as it has only 150mah advantage and i couldn't even recognize the difference. i don't think it is worth spending the money unless you just want to get a spare battery but just the stock battery is way cheaper for a spare. i recommend all to go for the 3000mah one from mugen if you need longer battery life.
so this weekend i am off work and live in a non 3G area.. and all i can say is what a difference there is in battery consumption.. my phone has been off the charger for almost 6 hours and have had moderate usage and i only just recently hit 90%.. now if i was working today i would have already been at the 50-60% range... For my device i can say that 3G kills my battery life... actually i think my battery life in an "edge only" area is very comparable if not better than my 8125.. but in a 3g area i would get better battery life if i just shorted out the contacts on my battery (newbs that was joke, *DO NOT* short out the contacts on your battery)
I have the Seidio battery. It fits but not as well as the original. The cover bows up slightly when it's installed. Performance is slightly better than the original.
Average business use, couple of hours of calls , some web browsing, push email on, about a day and a half with standard battery.
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Seidio/Mugen/Mobi? Which Extended Battery for Tilt/Kaiser?

Hi-
I apologize if this has already been asked. I *DID* search around this site, several others and even Google but no one seems to have posted a comparison of extended battery compatibility along with pros/cons of the expanded battery cover backing...
So, like everyone else, my Tilt doesn't last overnight w/o a recharge. In looking at my options for extended batteries, it looks like the largest are the Mugen 3000, the Seidio 3200 and the Mobi 3000.
I'm curious as to peoples opinions on these major points:
1-Duration coupled with whether the battery causes lock-ups/freezes or other errors for the phone...
2-How the revised back cover of the phone compares to the OEM cover with respect to the camera lens, speaker and GPS.
3-Cases and cradle chargers that will work w/ extended battery covers...
4-Tweaks or other hacks needed for the Tilt to recognize the extended battery time.
Thanks everyone in advance!!
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Instead of other I think you should have put the option of " I dont know". I think people clicked for the sake of clicking to see the results quicker. My 2 cents.
extended battery
I have a Boxwave 2700 mah and a Seidio 1600 mah battery. The boxwave is from Taiwan with a humped back cover, so I can use my Seido holster, but will not fit in my cradle. Does fit into my Brodit car holder though, and the full backed extended battery cover will as well.
I cannot for the life of me get the correct battery reserve power reading correct. I have tried every tweak and twitch I have read and perused the registry for settings not mentioned elseware, as well as various 3rd party battery utilities, to no avail. Quite frustrating, as I can alarm on low battery, pull it out, put it back in and have 45-60% battery left on the meter. Don't know what else to do, as it does it with my 1600 and 2700 and did it with a "borrowed' Mugen 3000 for a test. Tried all the reccomendations of running it fully down and doing recharge, all that stuff, still wrong indicaitons of remaining power.
This is my greatest frustration right now with the Tilt I have and the other 8 I have bought for employees.
MWS
wow! im having the same problem!
got the mugen 3000 and the reading is always off!
I cant find any solutions!
I ordered the Seidio 3200 battery and tried charging it in my AT&T 8925 Tilt. I left it on charge until the light turn Green.
Starting using it and within 8 hours I was at LOW battery and system died. I removed the battery and put it back in and the battery indicated goes up to 73%.
What is the deal here. Is it my phone that does not understand that it has a larger battery or is it the battery. Since that time I have sent the battery and got a new one and the same thing.
Is there some software utility to tell the Pocket PC that it has a larger battery.
Confused....????...!!!!
Wow, so...
As I sit here perusing options for replacement Wizard and Kaiser batteries (my sister's phone and my own...) I suddenly fear the pointlessness of choosing an extended battery! Has any headway been made on these extended battery glitches in general?
Nope. The Tilt's hardware always expects the standard battery's capacity, and will turn off when that is reached even if the battery is actually twice the capacity and is still half full.
So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? Well, glad I read this thread, I won't waste my money.
Yep. However you can remove/reinsert the battery and have more running time again. But then in that case as you have to turn the device off and open the case anyway you're better off getting a 2nd standard battery and swapping it when it's empty. Saves you from having a Kaiser that's twice as thick for nothing.
What About....
Well, I think one objective would be to try charging it as often as possible. It may be that if you plug it back into a charger, it will grant an extension of time. But in the event you are unable to charge it, you could simply remove and reinsert the battery to continue on. Has anyone tried this? I'm curious to know.
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
mileskb said:
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
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Take a read from my post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336896&page=2
Battery 2700mAh:
"Full discharge removed battery and replaced and gained 10% so not that much of a difference no where near 50%
So effectively i have 2435mAh battery & 10% reserve so still far better than a 1350mAh."
I wish aztilt would have posted which battery he/she has.
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I am one of those that is very happy with the extended battery because the duration from turn on to auto shut off by the phone is at least 3 hours longer than the OEM battery for my usage. I don't have to think about charging the battery or swapping the battery until I get home at night from work. And there is still the option of remove and reinstall the battery if I don't want to charge it right away. I rarely if never need to do the latter.
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If I could get 3 more hours before shut-down, that might be worth it. It would mean 90% of the time, I'd get 12 hours of use as long as I didn't need the GPS. It would have meant last week I would have not spent an extra 30 minutes on ice because the GPS quit with less than a mile to go, but I didn't know which way, and I had not way to charge it, so I spent an extra 45 minutes trying to find the highway home when it was time to leave. Just 3 extra hours would have been perfect.
I can't tell you how many times an extra 30 minutes even would have made all the difference in the world, and I really can't think of a time when I needed more than a couple hours.
I realize I'm playing to its weakness. I rarely use the phone itself, but I'm always in email, rss feeds, web browsing, listening to music and using the GPS.
If an extended battery will get me through a normal workday without having to rush home to charge it... That would make me a happy camper.
I have the Mugen 3000
I have the seidio 3200 and after i fully charged it for the first time use, I use it for like 12 hours of txt, calls, internet and normally at the end of the 12 hours i have about 20% of battery left. Just mainly depends on what ROM your using, what radio your using and what programs you have running. Just because 5 people have the same battery doesnt mean all 5 people use their phones for the same thing. Best thing i found is find the one with the highest battery life and go with it.

Finally - Slim 1500mAh Extended Battery Using Original Cover!

Finally it seems that Seidio has come out with an extended battery that fits without having to replace the back cover.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BASI15HTCX1
It is only 1500mAh which is about 10% more battery power but that might just be enough for some people to make it through one heavy day of use.
Part # BASI15HTCX1
The compatibility tab on the manufactures site says it will work with the Touch Pro / Fuze.
galfert said:
Finally it seems that Seidio has come out with an extended battery that fits without having to replace the back cover.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BASI15HTCX1
It is only 1500mAh which is about 10% more battery power but that might just be enough for some people to make it through one heavy day of use.
Part # BASI15HTCX1
The compatibility tab on the manufactures site says it will work with the Touch Pro / Fuze.
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I might have to get me one of those.
Side Note: i just noticed you live in orlando, FL so do I. Do you go to ucf?
Seems like a lot of money for a little more power. I think I'd rather buy 2 extra batteries and a charger for half the price and just keep an extra battery on hand... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2x-Battery-13...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
For what it's worth, I picked up one of these and slapped it in my Fuze last night. I know it'll take a handful of power drains to fully "charge" it up, but will report back when I can.
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Seems like a lot of money for a little more power. I think I'd rather buy 2 extra batteries and a charger for half the price and just keep an extra battery on hand... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2x-Battery-13...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
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I bought something similar to this on ebay. The two batteries I got last a lot shorter than the factory battery. I cycled the batteries 5 times and still the capacity has not increased. I would say I get about 25% shorter battery life with these batteries...they do a good job of making them look authentic...minus they all have the same serial number stamped on them...
ahh i was hoping it had more mah, its not even worth the extra money to purchase this. the things people make, its not even worth it.
Has anyone ordered or used one of these? I'm interested I just want some opinions before I go and spend 44 US dollars on it.
Antzor said:
Has anyone ordered or used one of these? I'm interested I just want some opinions before I go and spend 44 US dollars on it.
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Are you serious? Look up at Beknatok's post
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For what it's worth, I picked up one of these and slapped it in my Fuze last night. I know it'll take a handful of power drains to fully "charge" it up, but will report back when I can.
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Conditioning a Li-Ion battery is a myth and you only speed up the lifetime of the battery that only lasts about 2-3 years.
When you get your phone, you should plug it in, charge it to full, and have fun with it. None if this "charge, discharge, charge, discharge" is needed.
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Conditioning a Li-Ion battery is a myth and you only speed up the lifetime of the battery that only lasts about 2-3 years.
When you get your phone, you should plug it in, charge it to full, and have fun with it. None if this "charge, discharge, charge, discharge" is needed.
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It's not a myth, sort of.
It takes a few cycles for the sensor to accurately understand the capacity of the battery. This means the battery might be detected as "empty," when there's some left.
After that, you only need to "recalibrate" once in three months or so to stay updated. For everyday use, you are right. It's better to charge whenever possible (but constantly trying to "charge" at 100% is not a good thing, even with the "smart chip" halting the process).
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Side Note: i just noticed you live in orlando, FL so do I. Do you go to ucf?
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nice to see other ucf knights on here.
So, does anyone have any thoughts on the seidio extended battery? How much longer is it lasting for you all? How much of a difference does it actually make?
As I posted before, I got the battery the other day. Thus far, it seems to extend my capabilities enough to where I only have to charge my Fuze once a day. The exception was Friday when my bus got stuck in traffic, so I watched video for an hour. Previously, I could last about 8 hours before needing to charge.
For what it's worth, I'm a heavy SMS and data user. Don't really talk all that much, but do a lot of SMS, surfing, apps, and other PDA-ish activities with my Fuze. Running the Elite RC2 ROM as well.
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As I posted before, I got the battery the other day. Thus far, it seems to extend my capabilities enough to where I only have to charge my Fuze once a day. The exception was Friday when my bus got stuck in traffic, so I watched video for an hour. Previously, I could last about 8 hours before needing to charge.
For what it's worth, I'm a heavy SMS and data user. Don't really talk all that much, but do a lot of SMS, surfing, apps, and other PDA-ish activities with my Fuze. Running the Elite RC2 ROM as well.
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So what does that mean. How many hours are you getting now? I understand you were only getting up to 8 hrs before, correct?
lpsi2000 said:
So what does that mean. How many hours are you getting now? I understand you were only getting up to 8 hrs before, correct?
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Went from about 8 hours to about 12-13 hours, unless I do something super-draining like watch video for an extended period of time. Mind you, I've only had the battery in what... 4 days now, so this is still very limited scope.
Today, I was up at 6AM @ 100%... spent about 30 minutes surfing on the train, during my commute in... did some SMS... and just spent the last 90 minutes stuck in a meeting playing Freecell... and am at 57% full.
Beknatok said:
Went from about 8 hours to about 12-13 hours, unless I do something super-draining like watch video for an extended period of time. Mind you, I've only had the battery in what... 4 days now, so this is still very limited scope.
Today, I was up at 6AM @ 100%... spent about 30 minutes surfing on the train, during my commute in... did some SMS... and just spent the last 90 minutes stuck in a meeting playing Freecell... and am at 57% full.
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So in your estimation so far.. is it worth the $44 plus shipping and whatnot?
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So in your estimation so far.. is it worth the $44 plus shipping and whatnot?
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seems like it is, when i get my pay check am def getting this battery then. remember to keep ur orginal battery ppl for warranty and exchanges
allthatinny said:
seems like it is, when i get my pay check am def getting this battery then. remember to keep ur orginal battery ppl for warranty and exchanges
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and also as a backup! the main reason i might buy this is not to completely replace my original battery, but between the two, you can easily get through a heavy day of usage... now to find a charging dock for the extra battery...
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It's not a myth, sort of.
It takes a few cycles for the sensor to accurately understand the capacity of the battery. This means the battery might be detected as "empty," when there's some left.
After that, you only need to "recalibrate" once in three months or so to stay updated. For everyday use, you are right. It's better to charge whenever possible (but constantly trying to "charge" at 100% is not a good thing, even with the "smart chip" halting the process).
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This might be true for laptop batteries but not necesarily true for phone batts.. the phones monitor the battery's voltage and compute the state of charge based on that.. there is no "smart" guts in phone batteries

[Q] Battery Life

So I bought a Venue Pro and I'm loving it! However, after a full charge, hours later in the battery info under settings the battery life falls very fast and says 2 hours left. Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks in advance!
I found out the answer myself. Unless you charge it from the computer it will not show you correct battery life or it doesn't charge properly. One of the two.
I thought I had solved it but no, it just charged slower and the battery I'd going equally fast. Can someone please give me a solution? Thanks
i think you simply have a bad battery.
DVP in general charges pretty fast, one hour on PC USB (500mA max) gets you a full charge.
weatherx said:
i think you simply have a bad battery.
DVP in general charges pretty fast, one hour on PC USB (500mA max) gets you a full charge.
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hmm 1 hour on PC USB? Mine takes close to 3-4 hours for full charge. My battery lasts 1 day with moderate usage. So could it be that my DVP battery is bad too?
Either you have a bad battery, or maybe it's still being calibrated?
I bought a used DVP, and the battery on it lasts a whole day on moderate usage, and almost 2 days on light usage.
khara said:
... and the battery on it lasts a whole day on moderate usage, and almost 2 days on light usage.
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Same here.
khara said:
DVP, and the battery on it lasts a whole day on moderate usage, and almost 2 days on light usage.
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Same here.
My battery takes 4 hours for full charge via PC and finishes to zero in 5 hours. I charged it 100% this morning, disconnected it, put it on lock screen and I've just come home and the battery has fallen to 42% even though it was on lock screen. I always keep my screen on low brightness. Will my battery calibrate in a week or do I have to buy a new battery?
Oh and I am a VERY light user. My phone isn't unlocked so I don't use cellular connection. I simply message my friends on WhatsApp and browse the web a little. Battery just fell 2% again.
The battery life is crap, thats basically it. Had several devices, none of them could last a day without basically no usage at all. Best to get used to charging it whenever you can or get a spare battery.
Hmm other users are saying theirs last almost 2 days with light usage and I don't even use cellular and it dies extremely fast! The battery life may suck but no device will kill a battery like my DVP is doing right now.If my battery is bad should I buy one of these and which one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BATTERY-D...808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a0f77e3f0
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-O...340?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f115330f4
Sadly none of those look legit, the second one has the incorrect wattage (actuall 1400mah) and the first one claims the battery will also fit the Venue, which I think is incorrect. Try contacting the sellers to confirm compatibility and if they will accept returns for a refund.
It comes with a 12 month warranty and and returns accepted if there is a fault. Even if it isn't original will it last and solve the problem I have?
If you can return it, buy it and test it. Only way to know if that will fix your problem. Only other thing I can think of is doing a hard reset and seeing how the device performs with few or no apps installed.
Hmm that seems like the only way. I've already messaged the seller asking him if his battery will fix it and then if it doesn't I will return it. By the way I don't think a hard reset would work as the device was doing this from the first time. Also I already did a hard reset once to change the SD card and it still goes as fast. Thanks for all your help guys.
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The battery life is crap, thats basically it. Had several devices, none of them could last a day without basically no usage at all. Best to get used to charging it whenever you can or get a spare battery.
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DVP's battery life is not the best, but as a heavy user I can make 18-22 hours without charging (lot of phone calls, 20-40 incoming e-mails / 1 account, refresh every 15 minute/, no push), which is quite good (of course not a BB 9700 .
I messaged the seller and told him about my problem to which he replied the battery he's selling will fix it, if not I can return it. And 22 hours is quite good battery life. I charged my DVP 100% this morning and went to school. I had no cellular connection so I didn't make any calls or texts and had WiFi off with screen on lowest brightness. I played 5 minutes of movies, took 5 pictures and played 5 minutes of games. When I came home I was down to 30%. A mate of mine suggested I should let my battery die completely then charge it up and do it a few times and that fixes it as he has a blackberry 9900 and he had my problem when he had his phone brand new and after going what he told me for 4 days his battery works fine now. So ill try what my mate told me and if it doesn't work by Saturday I'll order my new battery.
Btw battery fell from 100% to 0% in 9 hours.
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DVP's battery life is not the best, but as a heavy user I can make 18-22 hours without charging (lot of phone calls, 20-40 incoming e-mails / 1 account, refresh every 15 minute/, no push), which is quite good (of course not a BB 9700 .
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I bought my first DVP back in December 2010, exchanged it a few times before the wifi crashing bug was fixed, beta tested the fix for the crashing, and on none of those devices has the battery been able to last a day. That's been my experience, with normal usage.

X10 battery drain solved - by buying a new battery

So I always assumed the battery drain was a hardware or software issue, especially as my X10 would often shut down on 40% power and refuse to stay turned on unless the battery were taken out for 5 minutes.
Rather than buy a new phone I thought I'd try a new battery (I have had the phone since August 2010) - just £3 from ebay, and since then my battery life has been astounding - I'm quite a heavy user, but would almost run out after 8-9 hours despite keeping everything off and only switching on 3g and wifi when necessary. Now I can leave wifi and 3g on all day, leave the phone at medium brightness setting and still have 40% after a 15 hour day of medium-heavy usage.
I used to get idle drain of 1% every 10-15 mins as well (unless the phone was rebooted), but that seems to have disappeared as well.
So before you give up on it, do try a new battery, especially if you've had yours over a year. If there's no effect, you've lost £3 and still have a spare on hand.
Hello friend,could you please post the link where did you buy?
You think people on here throw their phone away because of battery drain,and it doesnt cross their minds to buy a new battery.....instead of buying a new phone.
I just hope your £3 battery doesnt damage your phone........or explode when youve got the phone in your pocket.......or during a call
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So I always assumed the battery drain was a hardware or software issue, especially as my X10 would often shut down on 40% power and refuse to stay turned on unless the battery were taken out for 5 minutes.
Rather than buy a new phone I thought I'd try a new battery (I have had the phone since August 2010) - just £3 from ebay, and since then my battery life has been astounding - I'm quite a heavy user, but would almost run out after 8-9 hours despite keeping everything off and only switching on 3g and wifi when necessary. Now I can leave wifi and 3g on all day, leave the phone at medium brightness setting and still have 40% after a 15 hour day of medium-heavy usage.
I used to get idle drain of 1% every 10-15 mins as well (unless the phone was rebooted), but that seems to have disappeared as well.
So before you give up on it, do try a new battery, especially if you've had yours over a year. If there's no effect, you've lost £3 and still have a spare on hand.
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Whats the size? i have a 1500mAh and a 2600mAh whats ur cpu settings also? looking for a good setup thanks in advance!
Also amazon link for 2600mAh btw its a big battery, and requires its own case which is rather bulky (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Ericss...TIMS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331594837&sr=8-1)
This is the 1500 i currently use, still getting the battery sorted with kernels ect
(http://www.amazon.co.uk/KC-Electron...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1331594882&sr=1-1)
I would just like to confirm what OP wrote. Not only did my new battery (I got the 1800mah one from Mugen, $33) solve my battery drain, it also solved my mysterious reboots, lockups, and heat issues. My phone would regularly get up to 48 celcius, it would result in it automatically shutting off the charging. It was a pain in the butt when using GPS on long trips as I would have to have the AC run straight onto the phone just so it would still charge. It was like this from new. With the new battery it has not budged above 29 celcius with GPS navigation, 100% screen, bluetooth, music and sync all running at the same time, I am shocked!
In order to condition the battery I turned off the screen timeout ("No screen off" in the Market) so I could get it to drain to 5%, it lasts twice as long even with the screen on all the time then it did before I got the battery, feels like a new phone.
beware of cheap batteries
beware of counterfeit batteries. Ive read a bit about cheap batteries being inferior knock offs. You tube has several vids about how to tell the difference
I'm about to buy bigger battery for my x10i. Now I have original 1500 mAh. Do you, who already tested thease 2500 mAh bateries see the difference?
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I would just like to confirm what OP wrote. Not only did my new battery (I got the 1800mah one from Mugen, $33) solve my battery drain, it also solved my mysterious reboots, lockups, and heat issues. My phone would regularly get up to 48 celcius, it would result in it automatically shutting off the charging. It was a pain in the butt when using GPS on long trips as I would have to have the AC run straight onto the phone just so it would still charge. It was like this from new. With the new battery it has not budged above 29 celcius with GPS navigation, 100% screen, bluetooth, music and sync all running at the same time, I am shocked!
In order to condition the battery I turned off the screen timeout ("No screen off" in the Market) so I could get it to drain to 5%, it lasts twice as long even with the screen on all the time then it did before I got the battery, feels like a new phone.
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My phone starting doing the exact same thing... shutting down at around 40% so I order the Mugen 1800mAH battery as well. Should get it in a few weeks... I did see much cheaper batteries available but figured you get what you pay for, and the reviews on the Mugen batteries seem to be good so I spend the extra money for it. Looking forward to the extended battery life!

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