Subscription Music - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I posted over at PPCGeeks but haven't had any hits yet. I am on the latest Juicy8 ROM for my TP and Love it! However, I have lost the ability to sync my subscription music from Napster. The device doesn't even show up in the Napster software when connected to Activesync. I have searched everywhere but have found no solution. All other functions seem to be fine. It will show up in Windows Media Player and will sync non-DRM music just fine. Do any Chefs or devs out there have any ideas?
I am a paying Napster to Go subscriber so, I'm not trying to do anything illegal just want to be able to sync my subscription music.
Thanks in advance!!

The only media players that ive seen that can synchronise with WM6 Devices are Windows Media Player, Winamp and Songbird.. if you really want to sync music to your device easily then stick to Windows Media Player or Songbird.

I can sync with Windows Media Player, just not DRM'd tracks from Napster or any other DRM'd files. It was all working very well under WM6.5 on Juicy7 ROM. Thats why I believe it's something in the DRM. I have never heard of Songbird but I see that it supports WMDRM so, I'll give it a try and report back.
Edit: Can't sync with Songbird. Doesn't recognize the device. I wonder if it could be a MTP issue? Might be unlikely though because windows media player sees the device just fine.

FWIW I can sync my DRM'd subscription zune music to my Omnia using Windows Media Player. Not sure what type of DRM Napster uses, but I thought WM5/6 devices were "Play4Sure" compliant....

They are. I was able to sync with windows media player on all of the earlier (prior to Juicy8) builds and on pretty much every other ROM I have tried. But Juicy8 is so darn goood I cant bring myself to part ways with it. Now it's like a quest or sommething, to resolve the issue. Are you GSM or CDMA?

CDMA -Verizon Wireless Omnia i910. There a couple quirks, like if I sync an album to the phone, then flash a new ROM, it won't play. I can't just re-sync, I get this "no sync rights" error in Windows Media Player. To get around this, I have to delete the album from the library on the PC and re-download it from Zune to sync it again.

For that issue, have you tried deleting the WMDRM folder on your storage card or wherever you store your music? When I could connect after a flash I would delete that folder and then remove the sync relationship in Windows Media Player. Create a new sync partnership in WMP and then re-sync. WMP should re-download your Sync rights. At least that would work on the Touch Pro and Napster.
Other files you may need to delete: (they will be recreated upon sync)
Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\XMEMediaLibrary.mlb
Storage Card\MSMETADATA\XMEMediaLibrary.mlb
As always YMMV...

I've just tried dumping a stock diamond rom and then re-cooking it unchanged using ervius' latest kitchen (as I was planing to slowly upgrade the SYS/XIP and packages to try and see when it stopped working) and it doesn't work straight away.
Interestingly it looks like the Juicy 8 roms are also built using a PlatformRebuilder based kitchen.
Juicy 8: Build 090618
[ ] New Kitchen based on PlatformRebuilder by Bepe
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lobsterdave said:
I've just tried dumping a stock diamond rom and then re-cooking it unchanged using ervius' latest kitchen (as I was planing to slowly upgrade the SYS/XIP and packages to try and see when it stopped working) and it doesn't work straight away.
Interestingly it looks like the Juicy 8 roms are also built using a PlatformRebuilder based kitchen.
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I sent a PM to Bepe and am waiting for a reply. I was reading his thread and there was talk about just leaving out some files "not needed" to run a ROM. I wonder if there is something needed that just got "left out"?

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Real Podcasting and Vidcasting solution.

Hi i would like to use my Wizard as my main Media Device, i have an old ipod mini but i would like to have the same features as the ipod for podcast on my wizard.
As of now i use Juice (former Ipodder) and sync my podcasts with windows Media Player ---> this soulution stinks, ints buggy as hell and far to slow, the podcast in the media library get updated far to slowly, an sometimes it misses new entries...
I would like a program that sits on my desktop and has the ability to sync podcast seamlessly with my wizard and vidcasts to i can`t just sync the folder were i download all that stuff becouse it de vidcast ar far to big for my one gigger miniSD so i need a programm that takes the .avi (divx) or MPG4 and recodes them for my wizard!
PLEASE help me i am getting so pissed of by Windows Media Player
When you find a solution, let me know! I would like exactly the same thing. I am currently doing similiar to you, downloading podcasts/vidcasts with PodNova and then synching them using Windows Media Player. The problem I face is that WMP doesn't support m4v files, so I can't even get those files to sync using the WMP auto playlist synching. Boooo.
Have you tried Skookum Subscriber?
I've know of two programs for podcatching directly on the PPC:
Skookum Subscriber is in beta and looks like it has some potential, but truth be told I haven't tried it out yet:
http://www.skookummobile.com/index.html
There's also SmartFeed. I've used it for about a month now and it's OK but the UI is a bit wonky: It doesn't work with the keyboard on the SX66, you can't move between podcasts using the navigation pad, there's no way (that I've found) to select multiple podcasts for deletion, and after deleting a podcast nothing is selected by default which forces you to tap on another podcast to do anything.
http://smartfeed.org/

iTunes and HD2

Just did a search on the forum and noticed that no one had mentioned iTunes Agent (http://ita.sourceforge.net/).
"iTunes Agent is a tiny application which rests in your system tray, constantly looking for devices being connected to your system. If a device it recognizes is connected it enables you to manage it via a playlist in iTunes. You may even associate your player with a Smart Playlist, such as "Party Shuffle", and always have a new collection of tracks on your player!
When you are done modifying the list of tracks for your player you can synchronize it with two small mouse-clicks!"
I thought it was good to mention as i have a itunes server service which i use for music and also a ipod touch and keeping them all in sync inc HD2 and any other device is very handy.
http://www.binaryfortress.com/itunes-sync/
This does a similar sort of thing, doesnt need to start with windows and hide in your tray though!
itunes and HTC HD2
Can itunes be downloaded and purchase the songs, games, and music on the
windows os? Are the games scaled to work on the HTC HD2? If so, how do you do this?
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Can itunes be downloaded and purchase the songs, games, and music on the
windows os? Are the games scaled to work on the HTC HD2? If so, how do you do this?
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music will work videos might work and games defiantly wont work at all.
itunes sync
Found a very good free app (doubletwist) that syncronizes itunes / iphoto/ video libraries between the Mac and any storage device. I have been using it on the HTC HD2 for a week and it syncs all the playlists from itunes and even photos and videos. it is linked to amazon music store and content can be downloaded directly. The interface is just like itunes and seems very very easy to use...just select your device from the panel, select playlists and click sync....all the playlists created get recognised by the HTC sense media player.. google doubletwist and download ...and you are all set.....
doubletwist
doesn't work for me. my hd2 is running windows mobile 6.5 and while the app recognizes my device after it's plugged into my computer and also sees the itunes files and playlists, nothing shows up after the supposed sync takes place.
Interested in such an app for my HD2 on WM 6.5
Tried Itunes agent, not really user friendly and didnt manage to add my HD2 on it.
Ive got loads on myusic on itunes, would like to put one of my playlist songs (around 500 mbs of music) on my HD2.. is there a simple way? Copying items from itunes doesnt seem to work.. and there is a mix of MP3 files and AAC files... will they read allright on HD2?
If they where bought from the iTunes store..and no explicitly DRM free, then no, they will not work no matter how you copy them to your device.

Troubles syncing HD2 with Windows Media Player

Hello there,
I am having a bit of trouble, I recently used the format micro SD card function on my HD2 so I could start fresh as there was a lot of crap on there. However when I tried to sync the phone with windows media player again it just says 'error' by most songs. Some it tries to sync, but then gets to 100% and then says error!! Its pretty frustrating, can anyone help.
Oh, some details:
- HD2 (european version)
- Windows 7
- They are Mp3's (ive tried converting them to wma's but it still did the same thing)
- It worked fine before I formatted the card
- Stuff like photos sync fine in windows mobile device centre
Thanks x
Same issue over here.
I'm using Windows 7 and WMP.
There is a problem with tags.
I noticed that the files I downloaded from beatport (converted to WMA) do play, and the files I recently ripped from CD with Windows 7 WMP, not not play on the HD2.
You can see, at some points that the filemanes are displayed and not the title/artist. This gave me the clue there's is an issue with the tags.
I alread tested that when removing al tags from the files, it does play.
Changing bitrate does not help.
So there an tag problem with ripped cd's. I try to look some further.
Anyway, I also have a creative labs Zen M-Vision media player and that one plays perfectly all files.
I is indead with the tags ID3, more specific the HTC HD2 does not support ID3 tags in UTF-16 format.
I found some more inf in the thread 602586.
(sorry can post link yet, cause I'm a new user)
Using MP3 Tag I (first change default option) saved the ID3 tags in UTF-8 format.
Now I can play the synced files.
This is a very anoying problem, cause I need to manualy change these synced files...
Maybe there's a way to let WMP write in UTF-8, but it is not something I would recomend.
HTC should create an update for this.

Vibrant+Zune Pass = Works!

Some forewarning: I tried this a few months ago and it didn't work. I am currently running Bionix-V. I have tried this on two Windows 7 machines and it worked on both. I do mean Zune Pass protected content too, not just the phone showing up in WMP as a syncable device.
Here is what I did:
1. In USB Settings, set it to prompt. Simply setting to Media Player should also work.
2. Connect to PC. In my case drivers where installed as it was the first time I had connected the phone since putting Bionix-V on there. The MTP application should start up automatically and connect.
3. After driver installation the auto-run dialog appears. The top option for me is Sync digital media to this device using Windows Media Player
4. After a few moments you should see the vibrant in the top right corner as a syncable device. The Next Device link will allow you to sync to the SD card.
5. Either wait for the slow as hell media search to find/update media, or simply use Windows Explorer to drag and drop into the right pane.
6. Sync!
7. A subsequent reconnection using this procedure resulted in WMP not finding the device. Repeating steps 1 and 2 was enough for WMP to find the device.
So that's what I did. Depending on response I may come back and put up a better guide. The moral of the story is that it's at least possible, possibly after a bit of star alignment since this previously didn't work. I just did this today so I'm not sure how updating the DRM time-bomb works, worst case is delete/re-add.
confused
I'm confused...
Are you talking about using your Vibrant with the Zune Pass service? (unlimited music downloads $x/mo, DRM makes sure music only plays when subscribing)
Does the Vibrant understand the Zune DRM? (I would find that surprising)
Are you just talking about the Vibrant showing up as a music device in Windows Media?
Robert
I pose the same question....
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Sorry for the confusion.
I do indeed mean that it accepts Zune Pass DRM'd WMA's. The Zune software won't work with it (it's strictly for Zunes). The key is using WMP. I honestly think the whole thing is a loophole in how WMP works with the Zune Pass content. I've used this method on a Cowon DAP for the last year or two. I wouldn't be at all surprised if WMP was actually downgrading the DRM to one of the older, more standard ones. Based on experience with my Cowon DAP though, the DRM is definitely still intact after being transfered to the device.
I'm not sure why it works now when it didn't work before though. Previously WMP wouldn't recognize my phone, even though the MTP app was running.
Further info for you, just checked the details in the default Music Player app on one of the tracks. Media type is audio/x-ms-wma. Further down is a "Right Status" section with the data
Type: Date
Validity: - 2011/3/16 22:44:36
yea, I've been doing this since I first got my phone. The songs do expire if you cancel your subscription or don't sync with Windows Media Player for a while - and there are quite a few songs that won't sync (because of their DRM licenses). It works ok though. Good enough if you want some of your music with you all the time.
Honestly, I love the Zune Marketplace subscription service and have always just been m'eh on my player. Still I find I use my Zune more for music than my phone though because with the player I can have all my music with me. I wish there was an Android Zune app, but we all know that will NEVER happen.
megatherian said:
yea, I've been doing this since I first got my phone. The songs do expire if you cancel your subscription or don't sync with Windows Media Player for a while - and there are quite a few songs that won't sync (because of their DRM licenses). It works ok though. Good enough if you want some of your music with you all the time.
Honestly, I love the Zune Marketplace subscription service and have always just been m'eh on my player. Still I find I use my Zune more for music than my phone though because with the player I can have all my music with me. I wish there was an Android Zune app, but we all know that will NEVER happen.
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You could always use audiogalaxy to stream all your music from your pc to your phone over the network
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Zune Pass
Does this work with Andriod, WMP?

Music Syncing Is HORRID!

This is a MAJOR problem and if they want to avoid people returning their phones within 30 days, this needs to be fixed. If someone is coming from iPhone, they will be totally lost on how to get music to their phone. In reality, it would be via XBOX Music but the entire experience is horrid and let me explain:
No Real Way To Sync - Yes, you can use Windows Media Player but it will not sync ZunePass/XBOX Music Pass songs.
Album Art - Spotty at best if you use the Windows Phone app to transfer music. If you download straight your phone, it seems to be OK
XBOX Music Cloud - What a mess! What is this info anyway? It isn't like Google Music and all of our music. It seems to be metadata from the main PC or Zune Software. I'd love to sync playlists and music between my devices but this thing is an absolute mess. Right now, I have this turned off on my devices.
Playlist Creation - Not only can't we sync our playlists from our PC (Zune Playlists) but you can't create one on the phone. And I once tried to create a playlist (streaming) so it would sync between my devices and it never showed up. Just the aforementioned mess in the music cloud shows up.
Delete Music Off Of Phone - Is it me or is there no way to remove music off the phone from the phone itself?
This is not a gripe session but legimtate broken things that need to get fixed. At the VERY least, get a fix for Windows Media Player so it can sync ZunePass songs!
Are you using windows 8? Its flawless on Windows 8
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robstunner said:
Are you using windows 8? Its flawless on Windows 8
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I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
I don't want to throw this thread off track, but I have GB upon GB of music in flac and mp4 music. Stuff not purchased on Xbox or other, by and large it's ripped from my disk collection. Does all that sync if I put it on my Win8 desktop AND play properly? Oh, I have some ogg stuff too... was deciding on what format to store my music in
Thanks!
garak0410 said:
I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
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What desktop version? Is this the full Zune replacement available online?
charlatan01 said:
I don't want to throw this thread off track, but I have GB upon GB of music in flac and mp4 music. Stuff not purchased on Xbox or other, by and large it's ripped from my disk collection. Does all that sync if I put it on my Win8 desktop AND play properly? Oh, I have some ogg stuff too... was deciding on what format to store my music in
Thanks!
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You can add mp3 files from any location and they will play properly. You can also search for he album art but I do agree that the new metro software is nothing on Zune. Zune was the best media software ever!
garak0410 said:
I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
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Can you explain this a bit please? Are you referring to Windows 8, or Windows Phone 8?
Thanks!
There is also a glitch. You cannot download music to your phone when it is already in your "Cloud collection". So I'm stuck with streaming everything for now....
XATAGuy said:
Can you explain this a bit please? Are you referring to Windows 8, or Windows Phone 8?
Thanks!
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He means this...http://www.windowsphone.com/en-GH/how-to/wp8/windows-phone-app-for-desktop
tonyfreak215 said:
There is also a glitch. You cannot download music to your phone when it is already in your "Cloud collection". So I'm stuck with streaming everything for now....
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you can download cloud music, longpress on it and select download, also when you are in a song list, there is the first option for multiselect at the bottom, you can then check whatever you want and download it all at once.
garak0410 said:
This is a MAJOR problem and if they want to avoid people returning their phones within 30 days, this needs to be fixed. If someone is coming from iPhone, they will be totally lost on how to get music to their phone. In reality, it would be via XBOX Music but the entire experience is horrid and let me explain:
No Real Way To Sync - Yes, you can use Windows Media Player but it will not sync ZunePass/XBOX Music Pass songs.
Album Art - Spotty at best if you use the Windows Phone app to transfer music. If you download straight your phone, it seems to be OK
XBOX Music Cloud - What a mess! What is this info anyway? It isn't like Google Music and all of our music. It seems to be metadata from the main PC or Zune Software. I'd love to sync playlists and music between my devices but this thing is an absolute mess. Right now, I have this turned off on my devices.
Playlist Creation - Not only can't we sync our playlists from our PC (Zune Playlists) but you can't create one on the phone. And I once tried to create a playlist (streaming) so it would sync between my devices and it never showed up. Just the aforementioned mess in the music cloud shows up.
Delete Music Off Of Phone - Is it me or is there no way to remove music off the phone from the phone itself?
This is not a gripe session but legimtate broken things that need to get fixed. At the VERY least, get a fix for Windows Media Player so it can sync ZunePass songs!
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to delete music off the phone longpress the song (or use the multiselect button and check songs, keep in mind, the multiselect icon only shows up in song view) and then choose delete or the trash can.
i agree the software needs to improve a lot, i'm quite surprised that it was released in a state that isn't even at parity with the zune software. it does seem like they are trying to push people away from using sync software and more into using cloud services to do it all though, but they need to work on UX a bit more before that is going to be simple for new users.
Since I have two laptops and a surface with the same music. Each day i am seeing music show up on phone. Since I don't have either one up for very long I think it will take awhile. I may just have to turn off standby this weekend and let it sync.
I got the lumia 920, and I love it. However, the music sync is SO bad I am considering bringing it back and using my lumia 900 agian. Its absolutely awful. There is no way to rate music, no auto playlists, and about 97% of the time I try to sync music using the godawful windows phone desktop application it hangs trying to remove music. The only way to keep the process going properly is keeping my phone screen awake, awesome.
I am a long time zune user, which I beleive to be the best music device and desktop software made, and I cannot believe that instead of just changing the name of the zune software they ditched it altogether, and all functionality with it.
loudog3114 said:
I got the lumia 920, and I love it. However, the music sync is SO bad I am considering bringing it back and using my lumia 900 agian. Its absolutely awful. There is no way to rate music, no auto playlists, and about 97% of the time I try to sync music using the godawful windows phone desktop application it hangs trying to remove music. The only way to keep the process going properly is keeping my phone screen awake, awesome.
I am a long time zune user, which I beleive to be the best music device and desktop software made, and I cannot believe that instead of just changing the name of the zune software they ditched it altogether, and all functionality with it.
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cannot agree more with you. Let's hope they change it for the better.
The Windows Phone 8 desktop app does NOT work at all on my HP laptop running Windows 7 x64. Every time I plug my phone in, an error message pops up on my laptop screen saying, "Windows Phone has stopped working". It gives me the option to, "Check online for a solution and close the program" - that does NOTHING! If I click on that, it seems to be searching for a bit, then just goes away by itself, never offering me a solution to the problem.
The only way I can put music on my phone is to drag-and-drop through Windows Explorer, and THAT'S a disaster, too! Let's say I have 2 CD's/albums from The Airborne Toxic Event; 1 shows up on the phone listed (under Artists) as "The Airborne Toxic Event". The other shows up as "Airborne Toxic Event, The", EVEN THOUGH THE ID TAG INFO IS ALL CORRECT!! I'd say 80% of the artists I added to my phone last night (about 50 total) refuse to download any artist background image; the background is just gray. Also, even though I added album art for EACH album as I put them on the phone, some refuse to display album art. Others show it O.K. One track, that is playing fine tonight, the phone told me last night, "Windows Phone cannot play this file type (the file is in WMA format)!!!!
This is a COMPLETE DISASTER, and I'm probably taking my Lumia 920 back to AT&T this weekend for a refund.
Oh, yeah, my previous phone, which I still have, is a Samsung Galaxy S III Android phone, and NONE of the music playing software on that phone had any problem playing the EXACT SAME music files I tranferred to my WP8 handset, and My Samsung Focus & Focus S WP7.5 hansets also had NO problem with these same music files!
Rename the Zune software and bring it back so we can use it with WP8 handsets, PLEASE!!!
What an EPIC fail!!!
Dennis
The windows phone application for windows works the first time it syncs, then it hangs on every subsequent sync unless I remove all the music from the device and start over. It hangs while trying to delete music. Awful.
loudog3114 said:
The windows phone application for windows works the first time it syncs, then it hangs on every subsequent sync unless I remove all the music from the device and start over. It hangs while trying to delete music. Awful.
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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Windows Media Player may work fine for getting music on the phone (drag-and-drop works just as well, too), but it's what the Xbox music service does to the songs AFTER they're on the phone that causes the bigger problems, at least for me. It removes metadata (tag info) and replaces it with what it thinks is correct, causing some of my albums/CD's to be split into two separate albums/CD's. For example, I put (4) tracks from Beyonce's "B'day [Deluxe Edition] [Disc 1]" on my phone. Xbox music service split (2) of those tracks into a separate CD titled "B'day [Deluxe Edition] Disc 1", that shows NO album art! It did the same to "Yourself or Someone Like You", by Mathchbox Twenty - it split (1) track off into a separate "Yourself or Someone Like You" CD by Matchbox 20 (it changed the artist from Matchbox Twenty to Matchbox 20 for just this one track)! I have a CD by Ned's Atomic Dustbin for the single of "Not Sleeping Around"; I verify that, after I copy it over to the phone, it is displaying album art - within 15 minutes, the album art disappears! I've tried setting the music files to "read-only" before copying, but that somehow gets changed when being copied over to the phone, and the "read-only" option, when viewing the file properties on the phone, is grayed out.
I also frequently get an error message when trying to play songs on the phone that says, "Sorry, we can't play this type of file on your phone", even though the file is either in .mp3 or .wma format & it STARTS PLAYING BY ITSELF!!
WTF?!! Why did Microsoft scew this up SO bad?!! WP7/7.5 handled all this flawlessly! I'm seriously considering returning my Nokia Lumia 920 to AT&T over this specific issue!
Dennis
morpheus1982 said:
Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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I can't get WMP11 recognize my 920 as a device to sync.
But the Windows Phone Software works fine on Windows 7.
I think i am going up to Windows 8 Pro right after i got my SSD. Because the SDK doesn't work on Windows 7 either.
BTW: yep, sync music on Windows 7 for the WP8 is a little bit troublesome. There are far more less convenient than the Zune Software.
I dont know how it works on Windows 8 yet.
I too am amazed at how bad the software for PC actually is, I have no need for cloud storage so that isn't an issue but album art has been replaced on most songs by Xbox music and the desktop client which I am sure is a Beta is next to useless, I am using Win7x64 so maybe an upgrade to win8 will help?
I managed to finally drag & drop my music to the device which did do the trick, And am kind of happy that option was available, I preferred the Zune client to be honest for stability and ease of use and hope they can soon sort things out so they are a bit more stable.,
I guess the lesson to be learnt here is not to rush out and buy on first release, Looking back on WP7 when you compare the first release to Mango that should have been warning enough, No doubt there are nerds somewhere in MS working their asses off to fix this :laugh: Yeah right.......
AndyFZ1S said:
album art has been replaced on most songs by Xbox music and the desktop client which I am sure is a Beta is next to useless
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This.
...and there's no way to edit the metadata manually like in the Zune software. Really pissing me off.

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