hi guys... there are many version of radio, please tell us what radio do you use and how stable it connects to the internet...
regards
evo
It's different, depending on the type of ROM and network - if is 2G (GPRS, EDGE) or 3G (HSDPA, HSUPA).
Im using 1.65.30.09 on slow 2G and its very stable with good reception. But i dont know how to behave in 3G network, because my operator is bad and doesnt have 3G...
i'm using this radio on 3g and it work's great
Im using the one that is in my signature and have very stable internet on both 2g and 3g.
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I'm a little confused about the internet connection icons that vary according to ROM and carrier. If I'm on Cingular in the US what 3G technology is this? Is it UMTS or HSDPA? Also, which icon set would I need to properly display whether I'm on GPRS, EDGE, or the 3G network?
GliTCH82 said:
I'm a little confused about the internet connection icons that vary according to ROM and carrier. If I'm on Cingular in the US what 3G technology is this? Is it UMTS or HSDPA? Also, which icon set would I need to properly display whether I'm on GPRS, EDGE, or the 3G network?
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This will answer some of your question at least:
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm.jhtml?term=cellulargenerations
Mike
GliTCH82 said:
I'm a little confused about the internet connection icons that vary according to ROM and carrier. If I'm on Cingular in the US what 3G technology is this? Is it UMTS or HSDPA? Also, which icon set would I need to properly display whether I'm on GPRS, EDGE, or the 3G network?
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all 3G cingular towers in the US have been upgraded to support HSDPA. if your device can use HSDPA, and you're on a cingular UMTS tower, then you'll be able to take advantage of HSDPA. HSDPA activates and deactivates on the fly, so if you're not actively transferring data the device will shut down HSDPA and fall back to UMTS until data beings to move again.
if you are using a cingular 8525 with 1.34 ROM, you'll see "U" when connected via UMTS, regardless of HSDPA being active or not.
if you are using a cingular 8525 with 2.06 ROM, you'll see "3G" when connected via UMTS/HSDPA, or optionally (via registry edit) "3G" with UMTS and "H" when HSDPA is actived.
i hope that was semi clear...i tried!
wait a minute. ive got a U showing, but i have 3G with a 3G simcard, so if it doesnt say 3G, than im not getting 3G? ive always thought the U was 3G.
Just picked up a Hermes 8525 off of ebay.
While upgrading to the latest WM 6.1 roms available - I have been picking up the 3G network in my area here in Montreal.
I do not have a 3G sim card, and do not plan on using any of the data features either. I pretty much just use it as a regular phone - surf via wifi. Am I actually on the 3G network ??
I also do not have a 3G plan with Rogers. Is there any benefit to 3G if just being used as a regular wireless phone ??
If not being used for any data features, etc - will there be an additional charge applied ??
Should I just force the phone to GSM network only - instead of auto ??
Any feedback greatly appreciated
Have a good one
3G is data and voice. So, even if your not using the data plan your voice connection still auto connects to 3G network or Edge.
You wouldnt get charge for data as long as your 3G data connection is disabled.
You could force it to use a specific band (i.e. 850/1900 mhz) but you might have a bad connection on some areas since the phone auto connects to stronger signal. Hence better (sometimes) voice quality.
hello guys,
need your help..........
as u could see in the title my problem is this I got a 3G smartphone (Htc polaris) which I want to use on a 3.5G network....
can this work??
I know my network provider which is 3.5G is going to sell the iPhone which is 3G so there must be a way for my phone to work as well (I hope)
believe that it will just run as 3g then
3.5G is also known as HSPA and is pretty widespreed
and
4g is also some places htc makes a phone for it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Quartz
I have
latest radio of 2.14.50.04 and WM - ChuckyDroid
SkinoEVO rom for android.
When it shows 3G I dont get network at all. It only works when it shows H or sometimes when it show E.
I dont know whats the difference. 3G should work right coz i am subscribed to it. I might sound dumb but I just dont get it?
while playing youtube H would change to 3G and then youtube will stop throwing error..no network connection.
Any suggestions please. and i dont know if this would help. I am located in Houston Texas -USA
it could be that have a short outage when the mode changes ...
i never see E ... only H , or G , very rarely 3G ... and in my experience , transition is smooth , even to/from wifi
nadeemhannan said:
I have
latest radio of 2.14.50.04 and WM - ChuckyDroid
SkinoEVO rom for android.
When it shows 3G I dont get network at all. It only works when it shows H or sometimes when it show E.
I dont know whats the difference. 3G should work right coz i am subscribed to it. I might sound dumb but I just dont get it?
while playing youtube H would change to 3G and then youtube will stop throwing error..no network connection.
Any suggestions please. and i dont know if this would help. I am located in Houston Texas -USA
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H is hedge, 3g is...3g E is edge. This symbole are used in france for exemple. But i don't know if it's same in usa.
l_endormi said:
H is hedge, 3g is...3g E is edge. This symbole are used in france for exemple. But i don't know if it's same in usa.
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Correction..
H is HSPDA which is faster than 3G and it's not hedge => More info
3G is 3rd Generation Network which is faster than Edge => More info
E is Edge also known as Enhanced GPRS => More info
G is GPRS => More info
There are more... but those are generally the most known..
Correct me if i'm wrong.
I get
G
2G
3G -- rarely
H
white-energy said:
Correction..
H is HSPDA which is faster than 3G and it's not hedge => More info
3G is 3rd Generation Network which is faster than Edge => More info
E is Edge also known as Enhanced GPRS => More info
G is GPRS => More info
There are more... but those are generally the most known..
Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Really sorry And i think you're right ^^
i cant get any of those just the bars with no letters no internet connection but i can get 3g on windows someone please help
nadeemhannan said:
I have
latest radio of 2.14.50.04 and WM - ChuckyDroid
SkinoEVO rom for android.
When it shows 3G I dont get network at all. It only works when it shows H or sometimes when it show E.
I dont know whats the difference. 3G should work right coz i am subscribed to it. I might sound dumb but I just dont get it?
while playing youtube H would change to 3G and then youtube will stop throwing error..no network connection.
Any suggestions please. and i dont know if this would help. I am located in Houston Texas -USA
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A local friend of mine has this problem also.
No data connectivity when 3G is shown, only on EDGE or H. This is with a PPP build.
I switch him to an RMNET build, and his data works beautifully. But no auto backlight, g-sensor, or any of the other stuff that works in the evo kernel but not the nexus.
Here is the weird part - the software on our phones is IDENTICAL. Same Radio, same WM ROM, same android build, I even copied my android data stores to his phone, and it still does it.
Any clue, other than defective phone?
Mine does the same. Randomly drops the data connection and only way to get it back on is to go into settings/networks and disable and reenable the Mobile network connection. Starting to look at other builds as when you call someone it randomly crashes the phone app and you cant make any calls, only solution is to reboot...oh and the flash flashes before the camera actually takes a photo lol
H = HSPDA = 3.75G DATA -> Usually 7.2mbps (This is fastest normal data connection, sometimes along with voice)
3G = 3G UMTS DATA (old) -> Usually 384kbps (You will very rarely get this)
E = Edge = 2G DATA -> Usually 230.8kbps (You will get this when 3g signal is low)
G = GPRS (old) Usually 80kbps (You will get this when you are talking on 2g network)
Data rates are typical for HD2
You will sometimes get simultaneous 3G voice and data and sometimes not, depending on operator and location. (If your current location can't support simultaneous voice and data, you will see G icon when you are talking on the phone or have just hang up) You won't get simultaneous voice and data on 2G network. When on H, you "may" get HSUPA (high speed upload) but it won't have notification.
I think its the hardware rather than ROMs
I think its the phone not the software. RMNET and PPP thing is correct. I did tried one build with RMNET and dataconnection was fast but had lot of drops. So i took on PPP.
I tried almost all ROMS, Darkstone, Nexus, Hyperdriod, Dexters, MdeeJay's and dont remember others.. All of them gave same issue..when it shows 3G its always "No network".
So, i guess i have to deal with it.
But it would be good to find out how many different Tmobile HD2 models are in USA (hardware perspective). I heard the earlier one's have different antenna which received radio(AM/FM) compare to newer models. And even some change of LCD / OLED..something which i couldnt understand at all.
Well, Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts.
memin1857 said:
H = HSPDA = 3.75G DATA -> Usually 7.2mbps (This is fastest normal data connection, sometimes along with voice)
3G = 3G UMTS DATA (old) -> Usually 384kbps (You will very rarely get this)
E = Edge = 2G DATA -> Usually 230.8kbps (You will get this when 3g signal is low)
G = GPRS (old) Usually 80kbps (You will get this when you are talking on 2g network)
Data rates are typical for HD2
You will sometimes get simultaneous 3G voice and data and sometimes not, depending on operator and location. (If your current location can't support simultaneous voice and data, you will see G icon when you are talking on the phone or have just hang up) You won't get simultaneous voice and data on 2G network. When on H, you "may" get HSUPA (high speed upload) but it won't have notification.
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Your response, while informative, has no bearing on this thread.
We are not asking what each letter stands for, as so many keep so helpfully responding to inform of us.
We need to know why, when connected to a 3G network, we get NO data connectivity, but do get it when connected to EDGE or HSPDA.
Also, your line about rarely getting UMTS is wrong, in the vast majority of the continental US, it is still the predominant wireless signal.
HI all!
Right now I am using [Build][10.12.2010][NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 PPP+RMNET][Kernel: hastarin r8.5.3_oldcam] and that is quite ok for me.
However I havent found anywhere on that build an option to disable HDSPA speed.
What I would like is accept 3G but disable HSPDA. Now I only have a change to disable 3G totally and only get 2G. Basicly area where I live is keeping me a situation that phone is very often trying to connect HSPDA but then changes is 3G speed. It causes me time&battery drain.
I have found a solution to force phone only use 3G but that is what I wanted. 2G and 3G are ok but I want to disable HSPDA.
Anybody could help me?
Up, Up... anybody have same kind of need?
i also need same help regarding this, reason is my data plan only use 3g (umts) and not 3.5g (hsdpa)... but my android always switch 3g to hsdpa back and forth and drain battery much faster
is there any tweak/program/widget/application that can enable 3g (umts) only?
windows doenst have this problem cause in winmo i can switch the option easily (enable/disable hspa)... but android dont have this kind of thing
I have the same problem. I don't even have HSPDA where I live, yet it tries to connect, fails, and then connects to 3G. It's a very time consuming processor to wait for the phone to do this when I am just trying to load a website.
Yes.. maybe it will not drain much memory but.. who wouldn't want a fast internet..
Afaik Hsdpa uses the same radio towers (or whatever the name is) as Umts... just different software. so there should be no battery drain caused by this.
This mite help you
1. Go to your dialer
2. Dial *#*#INFO#*#*
3. Click 'Phone information'
4. Scroll down to the first dropdown selection and set according to your preference below...
For simplicity, there are two main types of cell carriers, GSM and CDMA.
The following popular data communication technology is associated with each cell carrier type:
GSM = GPRS (2g), EDGE(2g), UMTS(3g), WCDMA(3g), HSDPA(3g) {Cell Carrier examples: AT&T and T-Mobile}
CDMA = CDMA*(2/3g) EV-DO(3g) WiMax(3/4g) {Cell Carrier examples: Verizon and Sprint}
Now that the general stuff is out of the way, here's my take on the Preferred Network types:
WCDMA preferred - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 3G is favored more.
GSM only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
WCDMA only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM auto (PRL) - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more. This one is a bit confusing to me since PRL is associated mostly with CDMA technology and not GSM technology.
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
CDMA only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
EvDo only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM/CDMA auto (PRL) - Some phones are equipped with both GSM and CDMA capabilities. This setting appears to just have the phone attempt to stay connected to the data communication type that works the best. (Maybe the Samsung Galaxy S will take advantage of this???)
Unknown - If none of the above fit or the phone is acting weird as far as connecting to the carrier, you will see your preferred network type is set to this
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Source http://www.google.ie/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6a327a95211ac789&hl=en
domenukk said:
Afaik Hsdpa uses the same radio towers (or whatever the name is) as Umts... just different software. so there should be no battery drain caused by this.
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uhh... maybe you dont catch what us mean....
when umts change to hspda (icon change from 3g to H) then it use battery power.. in my case i use 3g (umts and not 3.5g or hspda )data plan only... but android keep searching hspda signal and THIS is when battery used the most (the process) and EVEN when my area have 3.5g covered but because i use 3g only data plan... then the back and forth process (3g<->H) will kep coming and rdrain my battery fast
so... we look for any kind of workaround so our android keep stay in 3g (umts) and not drain any unnecessary battery power searching for hspda
btw sorry for my english
agarp said:
This mite help you
1. Go to your dialer
2. Dial *#*#INFO#*#*
3. Click 'Phone information'
4. Scroll down to the first dropdown selection and set according to your preference below...
Source http://www.google.ie/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6a327a95211ac789&hl=en
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i use this thing before and no luck
i use "wcdma only" as the option and android still process 3g and 3.5 back and forth, maybe android "thinks" 3g/umts and 3.5/hspda as the same?? android categorize umts and hspda as one big fat 3G network
i wonder why newer os like android doesnt have this kind of feature in winmo there is an option :
disable hspa = so hspda disabled.. AKA 2G or UMTS only
enable hspa = enabled hspda, hspa, hsupa etc.. AKA 2G, UMTS and HSPDA
try this settings
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
agarp said:
try this settings
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
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isnt cdma auto (prl) used exclusively for cdma phones? (those phones with evdo and wimax thing) and not used for our hd2 (GSM)???
C'mon how this is impossible with newer phone software??
This feature has been in WinMo and Symbian in many years!!
It is really frustrating that almost every time my phone is trying to make HSPDA connect and then decide 3G is enough and possible. It causes some delay and sometimes also timed out errors.
agreed
my android keep going back and forth between umts 3G and hspda 3.5G like some clueless kid while 2 experienced guy (symbian & winmo) laugh at him
i know this is a old topic
i have still this issue
my phone is switching to hsdpa an back to 3g after a few seconds
when the phone is connected to my slow wifi connection everything works fine and i can use it for 3 day's
when it is connected to hsdpa my battery is empty after 15 hours and the voip connection is not working properly (i need to start a ping to some server first to keep the connection alive so i can call with voip)
I just came upon this thread, but I don't have this problem, so I can't really test it out this theory. But my thought was, what if you just went into the build.prop file and edited the ro.ril.hsxpa.category settting from ro.ril.hsxpa.category=2 to ro.ril.hsxpa.category=0. I just tested it out and it never jumped from 3g to H. My only concern is that you wouln't get the fastest speed you could be getting. Test it out and let me know though.
at this moment it is not posible to root my phone (SE Xperia pro with latest firmware)
so i am afraid we need to wait to test this
but thanks for the hint