I do not understand what Onyx is. I read and read but I still dont get it.
What is Onyx as OS and then what about Windows Mobile?
I have an elf with WM 6.1 but when I go to device information it says I have Onyx 4.6 something
A friend of mine did somethings to the cell before he gave it to me so I whish to know about Onyx and WM
Portgas D Ace said:
I do not understand what Onyx is. I read and read but I still dont get it.
What is Onyx as OS and then what about Windows Mobile?
I have an elf with WM 6.1 but when I go to device information it says I have Onyx 4.6 something
A friend of mine did somethings to the cell before he gave it to me so I whish to know about Onyx and WM
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Okay, in a nutshell, Onyx is a custom ROM meaning that it is still Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 but customized by the user (in this case dsixda). In simple terms, say that you had a clean Operating System (OS) and installed many different applications to suit your needs and wants, you therefore have customized it. This is essentially what Onyx is. It is Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 loaded and/or stripped of many apps to appeal to different users. There are many other custom roms like this, each vary in what audience they each attract so there is no "best".
By the way, the "rom" is just like a boot image, like one you would have for your computer when installing an OS.
You can find the Onyx thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540
Brilliant Writeup!
Thank you now I understand everything
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hi all u great people those are helping every one pls help me
i bought a new htc touch in india with new version Ram size 128mb flash size 256mb my rom version is 2.20.720.103 wwe i want to upgrade to official windows 6.1 with touch flo i am not able to download from htc site help me plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
you are not able to download... hmm.. more to your computer problem? wrong forum la.. if u singaporean, go hwzone or vrzone. den post your problem in the sub forum.. lol...
cyral2002 said:
hi all u great people those are helping every one pls help me
i bought a new htc touch in india with new version Ram size 128mb flash size 256mb my rom version is 2.20.720.103 wwe i want to upgrade to official windows 6.1 with touch flo i am not able to download from htc site help me plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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You have the HTC Elfin and there is no official WM 6.1 update available for your device and probably wont ever be one. On the HTC Website it shows the WM 6.1 update but probably says not available for your device when you try to install it. This is because the linked it to Elf by accident and fixed the problem in order to avoid people downloading to elf or elfin and bricking their devices. The WM 6.1 official ROM update is for the HTC touch Vogue. You can search this site; however, for custom cooked ROM's for the Elfin that has WM 6.1. Make sure you do plenty of reading and studying on how to flash a custom cooked ROM to your device and you will have to make sure that your device is unlocked. I am sorry I cannot help you more than this since I don't know much about flashing custom ROM's since I myself have not done it yet to my Elfin. There is lots of information available on this site though and several ROM's available for the Elfin.
Start by reading through the WIKI here to begin learning
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elfin
Good luck
thanku you all for showing interests in my query
but i have also tried flashing these cooked ROM it always stops at 3% and shows 270 error and stops the viva was launched 10 days after i bought the phone pls help because i am bored by this windows 6 i want i new ROM help
once thanku
please also tell if there any other site which helps u moding htc elfin
or has ROM database
cyral2002 said:
thanku you all for showing interests in my query
but i have also tried flashing these cooked ROM it always stops at 3% and shows 270 error and stops the viva was launched 10 days after i bought the phone pls help because i am bored by this windows 6 i want i new ROM help
once thanku
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Do you have the HTC OPAL otherwise known as the VIVA
You said "Stops the viva"? If you have the VIVA and not the Elfin stop flashing roms for Elfin to your device.
OPAL / VIVA look similar to Vogue and Elf and Elfin but is a different device
See links here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Opal
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=442
If you have the Opal/Viva - you need to post in that forum to try to get some help. You may have done a very bad thing flashing an elf or elfin ROM to the device if you do in fact have the VIVA.
You really need to do lots of reading. Make sure you know which device you do have, then proceed.
VIVA though is suppose to already have WM 6.1 so I am hoping I am wrong in this assumption for your sake.
hotrod101 said:
Do you have the HTC OPAL otherwise known as the VIVA
You said "Stops the viva"? If you have the VIVA and not the Elfin stop flashing roms for Elfin to your device.
OPAL / VIVA look similar to Vogue and Elf and Elfin but is a different device
See links here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Opal
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=442
If you have the Opal/Viva - you need to post in that forum to try to get some help. You may have done a very bad thing flashing an elf or elfin ROM to the device if you do in fact have the VIVA.
You really need to do lots of reading. Make sure you know which device you do have, then proceed.
VIVA though is suppose to already have WM 6.1 so I am hoping I am wrong in this assumption for your sake.
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I think he means he 's frustrated the viva was launched after he bought his elfin. There should be a dot after "stops" . Beside that your advice was very sound
tito12 said:
I think he means he 's frustrated the viva was launched after he bought his elfin. There should be a dot after "stops" . Beside that your advice was very sound
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sir
u are very right this my grammer mistake but pls solve my problem
and can U GIVE SOME CALL FILTER AND CALL RECORDING CAB FILE FOR WM
THANKU
Better Stick to Default WM version which HTC had installed on your Phone. Dont upgrade custom ROM's
sajokj said:
Better Stick to Default WM version which HTC had installed on your Phone. Dont upgrade custom ROM's
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Why are you giving this warning? I haven't upgraded to a custom ROM myself yet; however, have read that there are many members who are very happy with their custom ROM's and WM 6.1
Do you have a valid reason for this warning or is it just your personal choice / preference.
From what I have been reading, choosing to upgrade ROM is personal choice and one that you choose to do at your own risk and or benefits all depending on what your needs are. The reason I have not upgraded is that I have not yet felt that I needed to. I am very happy with my stock WM 6.0 ROM and the performance of my device. This is the only reason I havn't upgraded.
What are your reasons? It is not my intention to discredit you or attack you. I am legitimately curious as to what your reasons for this statement are.
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Why are you giving this warning? I haven't upgraded to a custom ROM myself yet; however, have read that there are many members who are very happy with their custom ROM's and WM 6.1
Do you have a valid reason for this warning or is it just your personal choice / preference.
From what I have been reading, choosing to upgrade ROM is personal choice and one that you choose to do at your own risk and or benefits all depending on what your needs are. The reason I have not upgraded is that I have not yet felt that I needed to. I am very happy with my stock WM 6.0 ROM and the performance of my device. This is the only reason I havn't upgraded.
What are your reasons? It is not my intention to discredit you or attack you. I am legitimately curious as to what your reasons for this statement are.
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sir help me find one good rom for my htc elfin applications for it thanku
were you looking for this:
h p://www.htc.com/sea/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=88&cat=2&dl_id=421
official WM6.1 works fine on the elfin
cyral2002 said:
sir help me find one good rom for my htc elfin applications for it thanku
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This one I am using : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540
Very good and works great on Elfin...
Hi, I have elfin (HTC Touch) and I have Windows Mobile 6 professional and I want to upgrade it to 6.5 so can anyone type me a link so I can download the ROM directly because there is more than one ROM in the forum and I'm afraid to download a wrong one so please help me...thanks
First you read this guide completely.
Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406721
I read it well and I knew big information about my elfin but really I don't know how to start please tell my what to do first I can tell you the info about my elfin
ROM Version:2.20.707.1B WWE
ROM Date:10/02/07
Radio Version:03.07.90
Protocol Version:4.1.13.51
EXT ROM Version:2.20.707.101
Windows Mobile 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)
mind my sarcasm...but he meant to say...to upgrade your device without damaging it...you will need to follow some instructions....and if you read it well and if you are a sane guy...then you would atleast EDIT your POST and remove the god damn IMEI of your device....people dont give away their IMEI jus like that you know...its something only you should know...and jus so you know...i m not trying to piss you off cos you are as we call a newbie....so here is a breakdown of what you need to do
1. your device is an ELFIN...so we know
2. jus like you unlock your sim to use your phone...you need to unlock your device...(so that it becomes writable)
3. to do so...you would need to make use of a part of software called USPL and IPL...USPL does the part of keeping your device unlocked...and IPL needs to remain the same series....if you flashed a USPL of 3.XX then your IPL shud be 3.XX series
4. now do the reading on your own this time and discover all flavours of 6.5 ROMS available here....
btw i wonder why you havent tried the official 6.1 ROM from HTC
thanks so much, first i don't know even the difference between the 6.1 and the 6.5 but when i saw some topics about 6.5 and the people said that it works better with the HTC touch so I think in that, now i made a backup ROM from the one i have is that good step and i already downloaded 2 different ROMs from the forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552371 , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540)
but how can i make the device rewritable is there a application i can download? and what's your opinion to upgrade to 6.1 or 6.5?
Upgrade to 6.5 Final Build 21234.
Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3346614&postcount=5230
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thanks so much, first i don't know even the difference between the 6.1 and the 6.5 but when i saw some topics about 6.5 and the people said that it works better with the HTC touch so I think in that, now i made a backup ROM from the one i have is that good step and i already downloaded 2 different ROMs from the forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552371 , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540)
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Tht's a good thing to backup your Original ROM, should be helpful in case of errors, bricking or re-servicing. (though i forgot to do mine )
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but how can i make the device rewritable is there a application i can download? and what's your opinion to upgrade to 6.1 or 6.5?
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There's is no problem about being not rewritable or sort! Once you CID unlock and upgrade your IPL/SPL, you can upgrade or degrade your device to any ROM you like whenever u like!
About opinions, there are alot of people here and would obviously have their own different opinions and so you will have too! I'd ask you to try out ROMs yourself and use the suitable one you choose. If you'd like to have a stable ROM, i'd advice you to use the 6.1 ROMs and if you'd like to have newer latest builds, you can go for the 6.5 ROMs (which have been optimized to their best stable by respective cooks). In the end, its up to you which you choose as your BEST ROM!
PS: Do read if the ROM is suitable for your device, in this case- Elfin and few FAQs posted out by the ROM cook. Respect others work and last but not least Read & Search before asking Questions!!
Thank you very much I finally upgraded my elfin to windows mobile 6.5 and it's awesome but i still have one more thing i want to make it read and write Arabic language without convert the whole interface is there a patch? I already searched about that and i found a file but it's not an application and I don't know how to use it. before that in my old 6.0 i downloaded an application when i install it, it solves the whole situation then i tried it with the 6.5 but the start menu won't open after i installed it so i formatted the ROM.
ayyu3m said:
mind my sarcasm...but he meant to say...to upgrade your device without damaging it...you will need to follow some instructions....and if you read it well and if you are a sane guy...then you would atleast EDIT your POST and remove the god damn IMEI of your device....people dont give away their IMEI jus like that you know...its something only you should know...and jus so you know...i m not trying to piss you off cos you are as we call a newbie....so here is a breakdown of what you need to do
1. your device is an ELFIN...so we know
2. jus like you unlock your sim to use your phone...you need to unlock your device...(so that it becomes writable)
3. to do so...you would need to make use of a part of software called USPL and IPL...USPL does the part of keeping your device unlocked...and IPL needs to remain the same series....if you flashed a USPL of 3.XX then your IPL shud be 3.XX series
4. now do the reading on your own this time and discover all flavours of 6.5 ROMS available here....
btw i wonder why you havent tried the official 6.1 ROM from HTC
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are there official 6.1 rom from htc? or is it for elfin only because i can't find official 6.1 for elf..
zoom-z said:
Thank you very much I finally upgraded my elfin to windows mobile 6.5 and it's awesome but i still have one more thing i want to make it read and write Arabic language without convert the whole interface is there a patch? I already searched about that and i found a file but it's not an application and I don't know how to use it. before that in my old 6.0 i downloaded an application when i install it, it solves the whole situation then i tried it with the 6.5 but the start menu won't open after i installed it so i formatted the ROM.
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hi, first of all, the backup you have done is probably not ready to be flashed, so whatever you do, dont flash that again or u will brick your phone.
arabic? take a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281
and finally, i think it will be better if u update ur ipl to 3.10 too.
thanks crapula512 but what you mean with the backup not ready to be flashed? is there any other step ?
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thanks crapula512 but what you mean with the backup not ready to be flashed? is there any other step ?
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what he means is....you may brick the device with the backup you just created. so if you wana restore your original...which is the one you have backed up now...you should and can only flash that by making use of USPL or HSPL...search the forum for USPL and HSPL...and you will be given guides...
btw...you really like writing in bold letters eh...kinda makes us feel we are blind...
zoom-z said:
Thank you very much I finally upgraded my elfin to windows mobile 6.5 and it's awesome but i still have one more thing i want to make it read and write Arabic language without convert the whole interface is there a patch? I already searched about that and i found a file but it's not an application and I don't know how to use it. before that in my old 6.0 i downloaded an application when i install it, it solves the whole situation then i tried it with the 6.5 but the start menu won't open after i installed it so i formatted the ROM.
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Hi Zoom-Z
check this link http://www.ce4arab.com/vb7/showthread.php?t=153346
you will need to create n account nd download the arabic support or you can download it free from HTC after regestering to HTC eclub
after installing the arabic suit enter setup and disable arabic interface and restart
thank you so much crapula
thanks you very much crapula for this advice
Hello guys.
I have purchased a HTC clone also known as the HTY 3238 Model.
Basically as far as I am aware this is pretty much a clone of the 3232 Official design.
Now I have seen WM6.5 ROMS on this site for the Official 3232 model but I was wondering if anyone has successfuly put WM6.5 on the HTY 3238 Cloned model ?
Thanks very much.
Oh and if it is indeed possible could someone provide some links to what I will need/guides.
I have had a look round and I think I have found what I need but I just want to be sure just so that I dont brick my phone lol.
Btw sorry for the double post. I could not edit my post.
Thanks again.
I bought mine with 6.5. . .
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I bought mine with 6.5. . .
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Well that means it can definately support it then which is good.
ENTERPRISE1701 said:
Well that means it can definately support it then which is good.
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Here is a link to another xda thread where a discussion about flashing ROMs to clones exists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552024
While it is not a Jade Clone, info is info and hope springs eternal!
ENTERPRISE1701 said:
Hello guys.
I have purchased a HTC clone also known as the HTY 3238 Model.
Basically as far as I am aware this is pretty much a clone of the 3232 Official design.
Now I have seen WM6.5 ROMS on this site for the Official 3232 model but I was wondering if anyone has successfuly put WM6.5 on the HTY 3238 Cloned model ?
Thanks very much.
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Hi! Look at this forumhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4817395 There (somewhere) are new 6.5 ROM for 3238 English version. I have 6.5 v3.06 and I am satisfied. Bye!!
andour said:
Hi! Look at this forumhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4817395 There (somewhere) are new 6.5 ROM for 3238 English version. I have 6.5 v3.06 and I am satisfied. Bye!!
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While there is info about various 6.5 ROMs in that thread BUT the general feeling there is that Clones cannot flash from 6.1 to 6.5. I know because I asked the question there and in other Jade threads.
The thread about Sunno Clones has users who supposedly have flashed from 6.1 to 6.5.
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While there is info about various 6.5 ROMs in that thread BUT the general feeling there is that Clones cannot flash from 6.1 to 6.5. I know because I asked the question there and in other Jade threads.
The thread about Sunno Clones has users who supposedly have flashed from 6.1 to 6.5.
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I don't understand you. I bought this device with WM6.1 and I flashed on version 6.5. I haven't got any problems with this ROM. If you want link for download, I share (send) you...
andour said:
I don't understand you. I bought this device with WM6.1 and I flashed on version 6.5. I haven't got any problems with this ROM. If you want link for download, I share (send) you...
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I *think* he said, prior to your post that no one in that thread said that they were able to flash from 6.1 to 6.5.
Possible
I to hace the Clone and upgrades with the Smart.upr on my memory card. I did have to do a few things.
1. Small Memory card I used a 1 GIG card.
I took out the Sim card. and did it by holding down OK, Left Green Button then the power. it started working in a minute or so . IT took 10 Min to finish.
I tried all other ways and they DID NOT Work. Best of Luck...
I also updated my T3238 Clone from WM 6.1 to WM 6.5 without any problems and it was working fine.
The only problem was that I could no longer define buttons with different programs. In WM 6.1
I used "AEButton Plus" and with that programm I could do that. Because I want to push only one button while I am driving in order to use Voice Speed Dial. Therefore I went back zu WM 6.1.
Now I only have to push the ok-button a little bit longer, tell my phone whom to call while IGO is still working.
Amaly said:
I also updated my T3238 Clone from WM 6.1 to WM 6.5 without any problems and it was working fine.
The only problem was that I could no longer define buttons with different programs. In WM 6.1
I used "AEButton Plus" and with that programm I could do that. Because I want to push only one button while I am driving in order to use Voice Speed Dial. Therefore I went back zu WM 6.1.
Now I only have to push the ok-button a little bit longer, tell my phone whom to call while IGO is still working.
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When I had problems with the ROM I had, I realized how difficult it is to try to flash ROMs and end up with a working product. As a result of that incident, I also learned that there are differences between ROMs and that all versions are not created equal or fully functional.
As a result, I now believe it is best to stick with what you have. 6.1 supposedly is felt to be better than 6.5 which is buggy IMHO. Hopefully WM7 will be better but that is a year away.
I completely agree to you. I only try to flash a rom when I'm 100 % sure it's the right rom for my device and if I have the original rom to go back.
How can i update my OS, im currently using
OS-5.2.21892 (21892).5.0.89)
i see alot of things only for WM 6.0-6.5,how can i get those updates?
any answers, or suggestions where to look would be greatly appreciated
If you have the T-Mobile USA you are running window 6.5 i thin the Euro version is 6.5.x but you What you are showing is your radion if i am not mistaken...so anything for 6.5 should work...the difference between those is the 6.5.x has the start button on the bottom among other things but that is the distinguishing factor. Hope this helped
Everybody is using the 5.2.xxxxx OS's.
If you want to use a new build, go flash a custom ROM as they incorporate the newest leaked builds in their ROM's.
Also, you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, even though there isn't anywhere that says 6.5, just know that you are.
Thanx, wasnt sure, thats why i asked, but now i know.
appreciate it.
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Everybody is using the 5.2.xxxxx OS's.
If you want to use a new build, go flash a custom ROM as they incorporate the newest leaked builds in their ROM's.
Also, you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, even though there isn't anywhere that says 6.5, just know that you are.
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actually it does say 6.5... Settings/About Phone/About
Friends i hve htc elf 7 days ago i have installed onyx wm 6.5.x
now a question arises in my mind that in future if i want to go stock rom that is windows mobile 6 using shipped rom can i move to it.....
Because going from windows 6.5 to windows 6 is a type of downgarding.....
anyone answer..???
Hi,
I flashed my Elf and Elfin many times and I had no props with custom or shipped rom.
Maybe the ISP/SPL can make problems, if you installed newer ones.
These are my experiences.
Of course you can! But why go back from Rolls Royce to Subaru?
Want to go back to windows mobile 6.0 original....
what to do anyone tell me step by step
now i m having windows mobile 6.5 onyx.....
Find the original Rom for your device http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2045325&postcount=2 and flash like you did with the Onyx
tito12 said:
Of course you can! But why go back from Rolls Royce to Subaru?
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you're still using the subaru's machine even if you're using Rolls Royce chassis .
i think 6.5/.X consumes a little bit more energy than its predecessor.
and OMAP just can't keep up with the new upgrade, even with omapclockkeep
Right
I was thinking about the difference between Custom and Stock Rom