my phone has an orientation problem and htc wouldn't repair the phone as they said the warranty labels where removed, which was a complete lie as i found them intact as soon as i opened the phone. any way this is me trying to fix it. sorry for the bad quality and the phone being out of camera much. is my first time ever doing a disassembly vid.
not to spoil the video but i didnt correct the problem so if you have any ideas give us a shout cheers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZddccI68w
no idea how to fix it my self, but have you checked the service manual that is in the wiki?
might give you an idea of what switches you would need to have a look at, maybe?
Dude,
You said some trouble getting the frame apart. Im always afraid I'm going break something.
By the way. Im a HUGE fan of Me First and The Gimme Gimmes. Nice video.
i would suggest that you find the DREADIAG.nbh file on xda(the link is here somewhere) or send me a PM with your email and i'll send it to you in an email. the Diag image has a tool that is supposed to calibrate teh G-sensor which i would assume is what is wrong with your phone. i had this problem a few weeks ago and t-mo sent me a "new" phone. i tried the DREADIAG.nbh but it didn't seem to work for me, lay the phone down on it's back and run the diagnostic.
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When it's cold it usually works.
but after a while it just works less and less until finally it's not working @ all.
I've returned it twice now. They just send it back after having supposedly replaced the screen. But i have my doubts.
Now I'm going to have to return it for a 3rd time. I have more than one of these phones and I do love them. This one however is just crap.
Apparently vodafone hasn't got a clue. Maybe I can give them some instructions on what to do with the damn thing. What would you tell them in my place?
I've had the thing for a few months now but it hasn't worked properly @ all during this period.
I even created a lovely video to show vodafone my problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpQyH3i7RQk
http://waalre.pwnz.it/tytn.avi
(might not work immediately because I only just uploaded it to the site)
p.s. thanks and keep up all the good work
yfniyfni said:
When it's cold it usually works.
but after a while it just works less and less until finally it's not working @ all.
I've returned it twice now. They just send it back after having supposedly replaced the screen. But i have my doubts.
Now I'm going to have to return it for a 3rd time. I have more than one of these phones and I do love them. This one however is just crap.
Apparently vodafone hasn't got a clue. Maybe I can give them some instructions on what to do with the damn thing. What would you tell them in my place?
I've had the thing for a few months now but it hasn't worked properly @ all during this period.
I even created a lovely video to show vodafone my problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpQyH3i7RQk
http://waalre.pwnz.it/tytn.avi
(might not work immediately because I only just uploaded it to the site)
p.s. thanks and keep up all the good work
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First welcome to XDA-Dev
You don't know it b ut the problem has been reported here umpteen times. If you use the Search Google Sticky post near the top of the messages postings you will usually find what you are looking for.
There are recent threads on this probably not more than one page back!
Regarding the servicing. Actually I can believe they have replaced the screen. BUT we here probably know more than they on some matters. We know that this problem is not caused by a faulty screen - it is not the more traditional Screen Alignment problem (though it is related to it). We also know that to test this after any servicing is done, you need to leave the device on using power hungry apps to warm the device up.
I always recommend anyone with a warranty to insist on a Replacement and NOT a repair for this problem. There is an interesting recent thread taht suggest slackening casing screws and even internal screws can alleviate the pressure causing the problem. BUT if you have a warranty get another device - new screens are NOT the answer.
Here as a welcome is a saved version of my search. Please use an existing thread if you wish to post on this matter.
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=p...rum.xda-developers.com&as_rights=&safe=images
Cheers
Mike
As above.
Not cool at all
How do I fix it, the computer starts (Vista side), then goes to the American Megatrends screen and says "System Fan Error, The system will shut down after 60 seconds" (in RED - uncool).
Nothing seems broken. It all seems OK. Nothing except the normal cracking of the fan exhaust that we all know about.
HELP!
Sounds like it's telling you the internal fan has packed up.
Won't be too hard to find a replacement the correct size - or make a warranty claim.
Bugger
Pantaloonie said:
Sounds like it's telling you the internal fan has packed up.
Won't be too hard to find a replacement the correct size - or make a warranty claim.
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OK. Except I am in PNG at the moment and will not be back to Australia until May (for 2 weeks only). HTC's not the most reliable for turn around
Hmmmm, not good at all.
I have sent a WTF to HTC also. We can see what happens.
I had same problem, with windows 7. 4 days ago...
But i did manage to boot from vista...(F3)
Just tried to F3 the Vista side. No joy. I suppose that means the fan is right royally screwed!
If anyone has any other ideas, I'm willing to try anything once!
Cheers
take out the batteri. for some time...
i dont know what i did but severel on and off and i then could boot with f3.
It may be som bug in windows7, i dont know.u are using win7 wrright??
I usually get this problem once a month and my "solution" is to drop the shift about 1 meter above my bed so it lands softly. After five-ten drops it usually starts working again. Maybe the fan get's stuck or something, I dont know but it usually work
My keyboard wasnt working when it happened (check this on wm side), if soo u cant press F3.
Sorry about my bad english, cant explain better.
OK - Its working again - Next Problem
So, this morning, as a bit of a hope, I try the thing again.
AND IT WORKS
YAH
Must have got knocked in my bag and got "unstuck", which is great.
Next problem - I will be back in Australian for 2 weeks in about a week. Does anyone know the fan type and/or make so I can take it to a shop and get it fixed.
PS - Sent an email to HTC. The issue has been sent to a senior tech. I have told them it works and have requested the fan type/make and instructions for replacement (and explained my location situation). Lets see how that goes.
The thing is still technically in warranty, but I am not going to have enough time to send it to HTC, wait for them to look at it and then get it back. I am only going to be in Aust for 2 weeks, not 2 months (OK, that was a bit harsh - sorry HTC )
nbos04 said:
So, this morning, as a bit of a hope, I try the thing again.
AND IT WORKS
YAH
Must have got knocked in my bag and got "unstuck", which is great.
Next problem - I will be back in Australian for 2 weeks in about a week. Does anyone know the fan type and/or make so I can take it to a shop and get it fixed.
PS - Sent an email to HTC. The issue has been sent to a senior tech. I have told them it works and have requested the fan type/make and instructions for replacement (and explained my location situation). Lets see how that goes.
The thing is still technically in warranty, but I am not going to have enough time to send it to HTC, wait for them to look at it and then get it back. I am only going to be in Aust for 2 weeks, not 2 months (OK, that was a bit harsh - sorry HTC )
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Make sure that the environment is little bit cooler by making sure the temp is not greater than 70 to 75 Deg Farenheit. I have seen the system going down and not booting on WM side if the temp goes above 80.
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System Fan Error - SOLVED SOLUTION
Hi guys!
I've seen that this post is almost dead, but if anybody would encurr in this problem as we did, it could be nice to find even the solution in this thread, isn't it?
I thought of a software problem, first, but the "pc" side didn't allow me to get into the bios.. it just said "system will shut down in 60 seconds"..
therefore I opened the shift (I've used this guide: htt p://mikechannon. net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC_CLIO_SM_A05_(GENERIC)_08_Apr.p df), once removed the back cover, I simply disconnected and reconnected the fan connector (power), without touching anything else.
before assembling the device back again I tried to switch it on and so I did after connecting the keyboard (before pushing it completely in the case) in order to check that the connections were correctly done.
NOTE: if you want the screws to stay black, instead of losing their colour while screwing and unscrewing them, you can put a piece of latex glove (the thin ones) between screw and screwdriver..
Hope this might help other people..
bye bye,
RoBy
PS: I know it's against the rules posting links, but this one comes from the website of one of our moderators.. I suppose I can share it, isn't it?
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I had this fan issue many times with Ubuntu and then with win 7...
I usually tap on the back with my hand (to the location where the fan is located) twice or thrice and the Fan comes up ..
I did open it once and tried to clean the fan by blowing air into it ...
But the dust have stuck on the blades , thinking of re opening and cleaning the fan blades with ear buds...
Let me give it a try and will report back..
my theory of fan problem is it gets stuck due to dust and once cleaned should work fine ,
I got the same problem every time I boot my Shift. I just power off and on for 2 or 3 time and the computer can boot to window.
- I think it is the fan problem or
- the stay in cool so did not run
- the dust inside the fan makes it does not run simetime
One time I opened it and disconnect the fan cable but still the same problem.
I plan to Change a hard drive because every I start it said SMART Capable and Bad. I look the forum said my hard drive is bad and will stop some day.
If my hard drive change can silve these both problem (SMART BAD and Fan Error) I will report you all here.
or anyone have comment on these. I will receive all you idea and try to solve with my shift.
Thanks.
its too easy to fix
nbos04 said:
So, this morning, as a bit of a hope, I try the thing again.
AND IT WORKS
YAH
Must have got knocked in my bag and got "unstuck", which is great.
Next problem - I will be back in Australian for 2 weeks in about a week. Does anyone know the fan type and/or make so I can take it to a shop and get it fixed.
PS - Sent an email to HTC. The issue has been sent to a senior tech. I have told them it works and have requested the fan type/make and instructions for replacement (and explained my location situation). Lets see how that goes.
The thing is still technically in warranty, but I am not going to have enough time to send it to HTC, wait for them to look at it and then get it back. I am only going to be in Aust for 2 weeks, not 2 months (OK, that was a bit harsh - sorry HTC )
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just spray it with ma massive mount of (AKAI) and let it for a while and make sure that its dry then power it on and it will work for sure
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12letters said:
just spray it with ma massive mount of (AKAI) and let it for a while and make sure that its dry then power it on and it will work for sure
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don`t forget to spray it from the fan side ( behind the screen )
works fine with me
Ok, jsut got this thing off of ebay, power it all up I notice someone has been inside. eh no real biggie.. I unlock it and test the major functions.. all works. Bring up the camera and holy crap its like looking through the eyes of a lawn gnome tripping off shrooms and acid.. take a look (attached)
I rewiped.. installed Fx Camera to see if it was a setting, and also wiped the memory card (which came with the phone.. cool!) I then turn around and see that the camera lens is cracked on the battery cover, however the lens inside looks pretty good. So, I'm thinking this is a hardware problem, but Im not afraid to try to fix it if its just a few dollars. Am I screwed?
whoah, thats a trip!
If you deem it to be hardware, I have a spare camera from a parted G1. PM if you want details
I may take you up on that, however I am searching google right now to see if you can even replace the CCD
The camera module is on a ribbon cable that attaches to the motherboard, easily removed. So long as the component damaged is not on the mainboard itself you should be fine.
That's what I like to see!
You have a PM
If you plan on taking it apart yourself you need to be extremely careful, i took mine apart to replace the case when i bought it and after putting it back together everything seemed fine but after a while the touchscreen kept dying the camera never worked and my signal dropped all the time, i tried taking it apart and putting it back together several times to no avail. The phone became unuseable and i shelved it for my D600... bad times. It was only until i was going to send my G1 to a phone recycle website that i opened it up one last time, after doing nothing different and putting it back together its for some reason worked ever since. Just a word of warning hope whatever you do works out ok - Adam
Thanks for the warning! Someone already has been in the camera before.. I am going to assume that it was to take a peak at the camera lens so I am not afraid of voiding the warranty. It's no new adventure for me, I have been inside multiple phones and other small electronics, but thank you again. It never hurts to be redundant when opening any electronic device.
PM returned
When disassembling, I like to modify the HTC manual a bit. I remove the back plastic, and the coaxial cables (be VERY CAREFUL when reassembling, they always get pinched!). Then, remove the connectors as instructed EXCEPT the camera. Now, lift the camera portion, as well as the IMEI sticker as a whole module. They are just taped down. When lifted up fully, now you can spin the mainboard out of it's hooks and remove the entire assembly. This was the difficult connection to the camera stays intact. Makes reassembling much easier too, as it will self align.
If you haven't read/downloaded the G1 service manual, you need to!
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf
Whoa! My first phone that has a manual!
FTA:
"This document contains highly confidential information, so any or all of this document should not be revealed to any third party."
HAHAHAHA!
h1p1n3 said:
Ok, jsut got this thing off of ebay, power it all up I notice someone has been inside. eh no real biggie.. I unlock it and test the major functions.. all works. Bring up the camera and holy crap its like looking through the eyes of a lawn gnome tripping off shrooms and acid.. take a look (attached)
I rewiped.. installed Fx Camera to see if it was a setting, and also wiped the memory card (which came with the phone.. cool!) I then turn around and see that the camera lens is cracked on the battery cover, however the lens inside looks pretty good. So, I'm thinking this is a hardware problem, but Im not afraid to try to fix it if its just a few dollars. Am I screwed?
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My phone just started doing the same thing. I flashed the ADP image to see if it was a bug with the ROM I was using, only to find that it was still all crazy looking. Contemplating if I should try the repair or warranty exchange my phone again, ugghh
mine's doing the same suddenly, according to this: http://www.fixya.com/support/t2307654-htc_g1_camera_takes_pictures_messed_up
it's called solarization but how does one turn it off without a hard reset?
I downloaded the Snap Photo app which allows turning solarization on or off but it makes no difference
Any know how to fix this?
starting to look less and less like hardware
Anyone know how to switch this back to normal?
Hate to say it, but I do not see anything that would point this to software. First, if it was a setting or something software related, it would be resolved by the factory reset.. Heck, flashing the rom like JackSlim did would have reset any bad stacks or drivers.
I did find that post by fixya initially and quickly dismissed when I noticed that 1. Fixya blows... 2. there was no resolution 3. this is the same behavior that digital cameras get when the ccd or cmos goes bad..
PLEASE correct me if Im wrong, I would rather be
h1p1n3 said:
Hate to say it, but I do not see anything that would point this to software. First, if it was a setting or something software related, it would be resolved by the factory reset.. Heck, flashing the rom like JackSlim did would have reset any bad stacks or drivers.
I did find that post by fixya initially and quickly dismissed when I noticed that 1. Fixya blows... 2. there was no resolution 3. this is the same behavior that digital cameras get when the ccd or cmos goes bad..
PLEASE correct me if Im wrong, I would rather be
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After reading the post of Fixya I went into Camera Magic and played with some of the setting and couldn't change it back to normal
Unrooted my G1 today, back to stock Donut DRC83, still the same issues, so I'm pretty sure it's not software related. Since I've had the same issue on the latest Cyanogen build, the Android Dev Phone build & the stock Donut build.
Called T-Mobile to get a warranty replacement, so I'm $9.99 and a couple days away from having another phone.
That's my fix anyways
I hope anyone not covered under a warranty is able to find a solution, my guess is you would have to replace the camera itself as Speed mentioned in one of the earlier posts, so look for a parted out phone or a aftermarket parts store and good luck with opening up the phone
As soon as money goes into my paypal account and I replace it I will post my results. Heck, if anyone is interested I will do a step by step for future reference. With pictures taken from a working camera, of course.
The only reason I am thinking software is that it seems like it is occurring to a few people all of a sudden where a week ago none of us had heard of this. I had a accelerometer problem with a G1 and I took it back to the RC29 rom and everything trying to fix it, it never would work. Sent it to HTC and they reflashed it...worked fine. They said there were no hardware issues. That makes me think there must be a bit of software that isnt getting replaced (like bios on a pc?). Perhaps what is going on is hardware..just hard to say right now.
The camera itself may have some firmware that is corrupted. Also possible that there's a fried transistor somewhere along the line. Could even be something really simple, like a bad ribbon cable or connection.
Cheers for Manual link
will greatly help when I swap over from black case to white case
( sticky keys and a mate wanted white one sooo $30 AUD for an complete white kit and hoping for sucsessfull fixed KB glitch )
note that you will still have black buttons for volume and camera, as well as memory card cover. That is what kept me from changing colors on mine- I went with a black replacement case so I didnt have the wrong colored buttons
Just as the thread title says.
I'm disatisfied with my Tattoo, it has already been to service 2 times. The motherboard was changed the second time, so it should be like a new phone. I still don't like it though, so I want you help to know what to do with it. In Sweden, (at least at Elgiganten, the shop where I bought it from) you'll get you money back the 3rd time it goes to service. My thought is bricking it, but I wonder if they'll go suspicious since the motherboard was changed the last time. I'll also need to come up with some kind of solid lie.
So, what should I do?
You could peel part of the plastic off the VOL DOWN button, under the cover, so the button won't work any more. I don't know if it's bad enough to get a full refund, but it's the only thing I can think of that won't make them too suspicious.
=) I wish I could do that... The Tattoo sucks -.- Bad.
Hmm, any other suggestions?
Maybe I should root it, then telnet and delete some camera dependent files. Then I'll just tell them the camera has stopped working
I know theres other thread about it and I shouldnt post this but I thought we would like more updated tutorial how to do it.
Hey!
(JUST MY STORY, REPAIR GUIDE BELOW)
Just wanted to share my experience with you incase someone is in the same point and trouble I was.
So, my SGS got wet (mainly frontpanel) and the screen didnt work at all after that. I didnt know what to do, if I take it to the repair service, it will cost over 200 euros easily to repair it.
So, I searched some parts from the internet for self-repair. I found LCD screen, and it costed 170 euros. I watched video how to open SGS to the point I could change the LCD screen. It looked so hard I didnt even try it.
Then, I found whole frontpanel for SGS for under 100 euros.
I changed it, and it worked. It was quite easy to change the part.
(the first part I got from the shop was broken, and I returned it, but the second one I ordered worked)
HOWTO DO IT
so, you have a SGS which screen is bricked or not working. Dont worry.
Order this part: http://www.togytech.com/i9000-galaxy-s-full-assembly-lcd.html
Open your SGS to the point 1:20 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQWs9Yntdg&feature=related
(sorry the video is in russian language but its the best I found)
Change the new part and you are done=)
NOTE: THS IS *NOT* AN ADVERTISING I DONT ADVERTISE ANY SHOP I JUST FOUND A GOOD PART AND I JUST WANTED TO HELP YOU
I broke my i9000 once and I thought the front panel was broken.
But it turns out that the main panel was also broken. So I guess it is not easy to examine the phone ourselves.
TheHorrors said:
I broke my i9000 once and I thought the front panel was broken.
But it turns out that the main panel was also broken. So I guess it is not easy to examine the phone ourselves.
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sgs is very easy to open, and front panel is easy to change contact me, i will help you
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