hardware qwerty keyboard key slightly pop-up - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi
Yesterday I had a bit of accident - I've caught with my fingernail one of the hardware buttons for softkey actions and it slightly pop-up. Some photos:
http://my.opera.com/lwiczek/albums/show.dml?id=780762
the problem is it hinders sliding the keyboard back (i can push it and then slide keyboard but it's damn annoying ). I've tried to push it hard back (or something) with the hope it will "glue" itself back, but that didn't work. I don't know how the keys are attached to the rest of the phone but I'd be glad for any tips on how to fix it (preferably without taking the phone apart ).

The keys are all joined together with thin plastic between the kays. They do not contact the circuit board directly. Theres is rubber membrane layer after the keys and then another white layer with metal discs that contact the board.
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It should be possible therefore to put a spot of a soft (PVA type) glue under the key and hold it down until dry, without it damaging the keyboard.
Mike

Thanks, I've pull up a bit broken key (with the whithis foil under it), put a bit of glue and it seems to be fixed (tho it doesn't click anymore and it's harder to press, but at least sliding back works now :] )
Thanks!

lwiczek said:
Thanks, I've pull up a bit broken key (with the whithis foil under it), put a bit of glue and it seems to be fixed (tho it doesn't click anymore and it's harder to press, but at least sliding back works now :] )
Thanks!
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Probably as good as you can do. The click is made by the little metal disc moving in and out. With the little bit of glue perhaps it softens the click but so long as it works. Well done.
Mike

As it turned out I've put a bit to much glue (what is 'too much' at this amount anyhow? (; ), and key got glued to the rest of the keyboard casing and got stuck permanently. I've tried to separate it, tho with little succes. I'm looking at it from the bright sight - at least there won't be any more any accidental sending of sms, and the another key (on the main part of phone) is still working
Thanks for help eitherway!
cheer

lwiczek said:
As it turned out I've put a bit to much glue (what is 'too much' at this amount anyhow? (; ), and key got glued to the rest of the keyboard casing and got stuck permanently. I've tried to separate it, tho with little succes. I'm looking at it from the bright sight - at least there won't be any more any accidental sending of sms, and the another key (on the main part of phone) is still working
Thanks for help eitherway!
cheer
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a spot of a soft (PVA type) glue
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Well as you say you can work around the problem. There are keyboards for sale on various websites so if it is a real problem it could be changed.
Mike

No, it's not a problem (as I said in previous post - i still have touch screen and another button). I was just updating the post with notice of my failure (;
Probably will be changin phone in few month either way

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help - SOME error on my xda exec

hi there,
I need suggestion, advice, and help from all of you, here are the errors:
- backlite doesn't turn on automatically when we press any button (in mode-on / no standbye mode), is this normal?
- how to tight the hinge?
thanks
hello,
is there anyone know what the solution?
btw, for backlite case, have been solved. and I have new one problem, slot of stylus don't lock, so stylus can drop off anytime. any solution?
perhaps my description before not clear. my xda exec, on hinge that hold lcd so that lcd can rotate, have not tight, it can easily shaky. anyone can help me?
all of that, sorry for my bad english
thanks
wanna up, hope someone look it and have a solution.
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A) check settings in start > settings > system > backlight
B) rotate the uni to 'laptop'.
turn the screen 90 degrees clockwise (so the keyboard is facing you, and the screen is edge-on to you, facing your left.)
there are three parts to the hinge: the small parts on the left & right edges where the LED lights live, and the large wide part in the middle, where the screen lives.
on the left half of the large wide part, on the metal plate you have exposed by turning the screen 90 degrees, there is a small black screw. tightening this will tighten the hinge.
r3bel said:
A) check settings in start > settings > system > backlight
B) rotate the uni to 'laptop'.
turn the screen 90 degrees clockwise (so the keyboard is facing you, and the screen is edge-on to you, facing your left.)
there are three parts to the hinge: the small parts on the left & right edges where the LED lights live, and the large wide part in the middle, where the screen lives.
on the left half of the large wide part, on the metal plate you have exposed by turning the screen 90 degrees, there is a small black screw. tightening this will tighten the hinge.
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hi, thanks for your help and advice.
for hinge problem, still cant solve the problem. maybe it is easier to describe my problem with see the picture
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anyway, may you show with picture, which part / screw I must to tight up?
many thanks before
hello...
still looking the solution.....
hello..
is there no one else?
oh dear, I ever heard about this matter,that someone have tried to tight that hinge..
sukangoprek said:
hi, thanks for your help and advice.
for hinge problem, still cant solve the problem. maybe it is easier to describe my problem with see the picture
anyway, may you show with picture, which part / screw I must to tight up?
many thanks before
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hi from your picture, there is a tiny screw where you put that red ring. get a precision screw driver set (those tiny ones) and gently tighten the screw. that would fix the problem. lets know how it goes.

odd touchscreen problem

When I have my screen shut, and I use the touchscreen, the only places the screen will register taps is on the Start bar and the bottom bar with either Contacts or Calendar. If I open the screen a partial way or all the way open, my taps are registered correctly everywhere on the screen. Has anyone experienced this also and can I fix this problem other than having to always slide it partially to use the touchscreen?
Thanks
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When I have my screen shut, and I use the touchscreen, the only places the screen will register taps is on the Start bar and the bottom bar with either Contacts or Calendar. If I open the screen a partial way or all the way open, my taps are registered correctly everywhere on the screen. Has anyone experienced this also and can I fix this problem other than having to always slide it partially to use the touchscreen?
Thanks
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Well there are some possibilities that spring to mind.
Firsy there is no software involved in opening the keyboard just a lttle bit. (Iassume you are NOT opening it far enough to trigger landscape mode). If my assumption is correct then the magnet operated landscape switch is not invplved with this problem. That being the case, then I see two possibilities.
1. The flex cable that runs between the keyboard section and the main body is moved when the keyboard moves. Thus a loose flex cable connection is possible or worse a crack in a wire within the flex cable.
2. The pressures on the case and internal parts/connections varies a little between the closed position and with the keyboard out/partially out. The various connections you see in the picture below could be moving slightly when you partially open the keyboard. Prime candidates would be the D/pad connector with the two screws and the digitizer circuit.
Pic shows the flex cable and possible locations of loose connections.
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There is one thing you can try (a remote possibility) and that is to ajust the torque on the visible screws at the back of the screen (when keyboard is open) Slackening a Little these screws is reported to help with some whitescreen and alignment issues and might just have some effevt. Other than that I see little option but to either send for repair or dismantle to check those connections and the flex cable for wiring integrity.
Mike

Cheap screen protector for bottom touch sensitive portion?

Hi, does anyone know where I can get a screen protector for the touch sensitive buttons on the bottom portion of the screen? Those buttons seem like they would get scratched easily and I just want to make sure they are protected.
have a look on ebay
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Take the scrissors and make it !!!
Get an invisible shield that covers your entire phones body and you won't be sorry.
Takes some patience to install but well worth it.
I don't think this would be a good idea, as that bottom portion is capacitive wouldn't covering it with anything render it useless?
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I don't think this would be a good idea, as that bottom portion is capacitive wouldn't covering it with anything render it useless?
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I have an "screen" protector over the buttons and I can tell you they still work correctly.
I have the invisible sheild installed on mine and I had no idea it was touch sensitive until blamo I zoomed in acouple days ago when Iwas sliding my thumb around so yes it still works and I recommend the invisible sheild butyou have to take your time follow the instructions and be paitent or you will hate it cause you will have funked it all up and well thats your fault then.
to be honest, the bottom section wont get scratch very easily, just the DPAD or the little inner bowl part but other than that the rest of the part seems that u have to be aggressive to it in order to see scratches, i always clean that part with an old tshirt and when it showed under the sun i dont see any of those scratch marks...sooo im guessing the finish is scratchproof or im really stupid that there is a protector on it already that i cant tell from looking at it <_<
any suggestions?
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to be honest, the bottom section wont get scratch very easily, just the DPAD or the little inner bowl part but other than that the rest of the part seems that u have to be aggressive to it in order to see scratches, i always clean that part with an old tshirt and when it showed under the sun i dont see any of those scratch marks...sooo im guessing the finish is scratchproof or im really stupid that there is a protector on it already that i cant tell from looking at it <_<
any suggestions?
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not entirely accurate, i accidentally put keys and my phone in the same pocket (in my jeans) one day, when the worst thing happen, the bottom area got scratched, fortunately the screen had a screen protector but the bottom part didnt , i highly suggest getting it just to be on the safe side
I went with invisibleshield for the body and martinfields for screen/bottom buttons:
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The clarity on the screen part is amazing, and the bottom section is adequately protected. (note the scratch i got on it already, haha)

Something stuck deep into the stylus sleeve

Hi everyone,
I have a peculiar problem. Somehow something (probably a tiny piece of cloth) is stuck at the very end of the stylus holder hole/sleeve. Now the stylus doesn’t get completely in anymore and I don’t think such small tweezers exist to extract this object.
I am considering opening the device up but the upper right screw has a sticker saying “void” on it, and I really wouldn’t want to void the warranty.
Has anyone had this problem before? If so how did you resolve it?
Thanks
I think opening up the whole device should be the last option, as you will loose your warranty probably.
What have you tried so far? Maybe you can go into the sleeve with something like a conductor and try to pull this tiny piece of cloth out.
I've tried with a toothpick but it was too small. I am thinking of buying a disposable medical syringe that should be longer and provide some suction to ge the thing out, but I am a bit scared of damaging something by "going to deep"
Uncurled paperclip?
try a vacuum cleaner?! perhaps he can vacuum it out ...
Sticky tape or blutack on the end of the stylus?
Kev
Thanks for the advice everyone. I've tried an uncurled paperclip. Even managed to make a tiny hook at the end of it but nothing. whatever is in there is well stuck to the bottom.
I am thinking of sending it back to htc under warranty. I'll play dumb and say I have no clue why I can't get my sylus completely in (which is not too false). I am hoping they'll open it up to check whether there is some fault, and, if they really find something stuck in there they might just take it off.
What do you guys think?
You should try something like that:
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Run the device under a very high pressure fireman's hose, or one of the ones they use when stripping rust off ships paint (just dont get your fingers in the way).
That should do it.
well i found the HD sevice manual in pdf somewhere so if you need to open it i can say DONT DO WITHOUT MANUAL! lots of mistakes are possible when trying on yer own.
pm me for it if you are in need.
The diamond had a problem like this.....
there is a magnet that the stylis slides through....
on some diamonds it can come unglued.....and then the magnet can move
just wondering if this could be the same problem....you never know

[Q] Nook Touch and Stylus ?

Hi there !
This is my first post. I've been reading XDA extensively on many topics, so first, thanks for all the information here !
I think I'm about to go for a Nook Touch.
Just a little question : I've seen on Amzn a stylus for the Nook Touch, but haven't been able to find any reviews of it. Does any one has any experience of that ?
I might find use of that to anotate PDFs...
Thanks a lot !
Since the Nook Touch has an IR-based touch screen, I've been led to believe that any stylus should work with it. However, I have an old Palm stylus, and it DOES NOT work with my Nook Touch. It seems that the tip of the stylus is too small to make the touch screen react. If I use the other end of the stylus (it's much thicker), it works about half the time.
I don't know if this is a hardware limitation or not. It would be great if there were a config setting somewhere to make the touch screen react to smaller objects, like the tip of a stylus.
Thanks a lot !
I found it quite strange that we can supposedly buy stylus, but no other site mention it.
If you make any other experiment with the nook (since I haven't buy it yet), I'll be glat to know
Thanks again.
I've been experimenting with this a bit.
Even thick objects are unreliable if the point of contact is too small. For hard materials, round is too pointy. Something soft is required to get enough coverage.
I've had good luck with an ordinary round-point #10 paintbrush (about as thick as a pencil). A cotton swab and an earplug-on-a-stick also work, but the brush feels better.
I'd also expect a soft-ended stylus designed for capacitive screens to work. Anything designed for resistive screens is probably too thin or pointy.
I'm curious about the spacing and positioning of the IR sensors. I tried looking at the bezel with a couple cameras in the dark, but they didn't pick anything up. Either it's too dim, too narrowly focused, or my camera's IR filters are too effective. I wouldn't expect them to be very bright, just based on the battery life.
I've also experimented with hands-free page turning, by blowing some kind of little flag to flap against the screen, but I haven't come up with anything reliable yet.
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Thanks a lot, very creative
What would you say could be the use of such stylus ?
Is it possible, for example, to annotate more precisely than by hand ? Is it possible to write ?
I mostly use it for page turning.
For example, suppose you are reading while you eat. You've got a plate of food in front of you, and beyond the food you've got your nook propped up in a little picture-stand.
With a stylus it's easy to turn the page without reaching across the table and getting greasy fingerprints all over the nook.
I haven't rooted my nook yet, and it doesn't seem like much of the built-in functionality would benefit from a stylus. For example, notes are just typed on a keyboard, not freehand.
Rooted, there are probably apps that would take more advantage of it, but I wouldn't know.
Stylus? I use simple watercolor brush with NST
Also for turning pages?
Could you write with it? (annotate PDFs, for example) Or draw? (OK, paint, in your case )
olivierkes said:
Also for turning pages?
Could you write with it? (annotate PDFs, for example) Or draw? (OK, paint, in your case )
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1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Didn't try. But, why not?
Cool, thanks.
Looking forward to receive my Nook and try

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