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nandroid on multiple devices?

Think this may be my first post...thanks to all the devs out there for making things happen! Consider myself an above average user, though I don't really have the knowledge to code a ROM (though I'm sure I could tackle it if I put my mind to it). I just very good at following instructions and can reasonably trouble shoot if things go wrong.
Tried doing a search for this & came up a little blank...could have been I didn't know exactly what to search for. In any case, my question is about nandroid backups. Currently on a CDMA Hero "with Google" rooted & running RegawMOD v2.0.1...PRI 1.70_003...PRL 60663...RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery. My wife's phone (for all intents & purposes) is exactly the same, however, I'm the technical one here and have spent a lot of time tweaking my phone. Once I get my phone exactly how I want it, could I flash my nandroid to her Hero to save time in tweaking hers? Or is the nandroid backup tied to one unique piece of hardware/phone #/google log-in?

Im pretty sure that's how droid users share roms, via nandroid.

u can do it, i have done it...a while back the first week i had my hero i bricked it, but i had a nandroid backup. After i got a new phone i rooted it and restored with a nandroid backup worked perfect.

Thanks...and just one more question. I was actually doing a Google search on this one & couldn't find one concrete, concise, answer. In the recovery image, I have 3 different backup choices (Nand, Nand+ext, BART). It's my understanding that Nandroid vs. BART is essentially 2 different ways of doing the same thing...with the ext portion being useful if you are using a2sd (which I'm not using yet). The first choice of Nand backup should make a snapshot of my entire system (ROM, apps, settings, etc...everything on the phone itself, not installed to SD), right?
Ultimately, what I'm trying to accomplish is making a snapshot of my entire phone, mirroring it onto my wife's and then doing some minor tweaks to make it her's (i.e. change the google log-in to her's).
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n/m, found it in the root cheatsheet. Nand = onboard system, Nand+ext = onboard system + a2sd.
Still not exactly sure what the benefit of BART is, though.

yeah your correct, bart is just a alternative....personally i always use nandroid. Just use nandroid, make a nandroid backup then mount your sd to your computer. Open the nandroid folder, then you will see something like HT.... folder open it. Then you will see all your different nandroids, copy the one of your choice to your desktop. Mount your wife's go to the same place paste the folder there. Boot into recovery home+power nandroid restore tada you done go in change the settings you need to (gmail account)

Does nandroid backup also restore the PRI and PRL or does it leave that untouched?

dkaile said:
Does nandroid backup also restore the PRI and PRL or does it leave that untouched?
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It should leave it untouched. Though it has a chance to change your pri. I dont know much about it. As long as you flash the most current roms we have know, it will leave it untouched.

Flashing a new ROM on rooted Eris and other questions

I know there are tutuorials for this. I found a few and most of them either expect me to fully understand adb shell commands or understand linux, of which I do very little. I have the rooted 2.1 OTA on my Eris currently. I wanted to start trying out other ROMs on the phone. I've done a nandroid backup, but from searching around I read that it doesn't back up apps or user data, to an extent.
1) I get the error message "Run Nandroid +ext via adb!" when trying to backup everything using nandroid + ext. I also get the same message when trying to use a BART backup.
2) What is the difference between the two? (BART and nandroid)
3) What are the adb commands to use these?
4) How can I make a complete "screenshot" of my phone to restore everything back to its current state? Is this what BART/nandroid+ext do? I need to be sure in case I need the phone restored to working status very quickly.
5) Is apps2SD really that useful? I only run like 45 apps.
6) Does overclocking have any downsides? (I know the phone can lock up if you push it too far, so other than this.)
I think that's it. I've softmodded consoles and a few random electronics but phones are a new one. Sorry if half of these have been answered. I haven't been able to find much about this stuff in laymen's terms.

Raikalo said:
I know there are tutuorials for this. I found a few and most of them either expect me to fully understand adb shell commands or understand linux, of which I do very little. I have the rooted 2.1 OTA on my Eris currently. I wanted to start trying out other ROMs on the phone. I've done a nandroid backup, but from searching around I read that it doesn't back up apps or user data, to an extent.
1) I get the error message "Run Nandroid +ext via adb!" when trying to backup everything using nandroid + ext. I also get the same message when trying to use a BART backup.
2) What is the difference between the two? (BART and nandroid)
3) What are the adb commands to use these?
4) How can I make a complete "screenshot" of my phone to restore everything back to its current state? Is this what BART/nandroid+ext do? I need this in case the ROM doesn't work/I screw something up.
5) Is apps2SD really that useful? I only run like 45 apps.
6) Does overclocking have any downsides? (I know the phone can lock up if you push it too far, so other than this.)
I think that's it. I've softmodded consoles and a few random electronics but phones are a new one. Sorry if half of these have been answered. I haven't been able to find much about this stuff in laymen's terms.
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1) if you get that message on restore 99% of the time that means your battery is low.
2) I have no idea what the difference is, but NAND always works great for me.
3) You would need to flash the parts of a NAND Backup via fastboot (correct me if I'm wrong). It's a pain in the ass for the most part.
4) NAND backup and restore makes a "screenshot". It will turn your phone to exactly how it was when u made the backup (make sure you wipe first though )
5) APP2Sd is only if you feel you need it. I use it, but is not required at all. If you have enough free space that why bother, but if not it's good utility to have available.
6) OC is awesome only downside is battery and that is barely their. You can also bork your phone if you set it to high. Some phones can handle over 710 some cannot. The only way you will know for yourself is if you try!
Go for the aloysius rom if you need a or want a new rom to flash

Awesome, thanks. I'll check that ROM out and see if I can get to flashing after work.
1) This isn't when restoring, it's when I'm trying to actually make a backup. Nandroid works fine, but nandroid +ext and BART both give me errors about adb.
Any other suggestions/answers?

Oh, one more question I forgot.
Code:
adb pull data/app desktop
Was using this to pull apps from my phone to the computer. After I did, I couldn't find them on the computer. I assumed they'd go to the desktop, but apparently I was wrong? Where are they?

Raikalo said:
Awesome, thanks. I'll check that ROM out and see if I can get to flashing after work.
1) This isn't when restoring, it's when I'm trying to actually make a backup. Nandroid works fine, but nandroid +ext and BART both give me errors about adb.
Any other suggestions/answers?
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You only have to do nandroid without the +ext. You only use ext when you have a partition on your sd card (for running apps2sd). Try a plain ole nandroid. As far as bart goes, I've never heard of anybody using it.

is there a way to name the nandroid backups so you know which one is which when you go to restore? or can you only have one at a time?

duscar said:
is there a way to name the nandroid backups so you know which one is which when you go to restore? or can you only have one at a time?
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You can have as many as your sd card will hold. They will be in folder on your sd card called "nandroid" and you can rename however you see fit, just make sure you Do Not put any spaces in the name.

rentjr said:
You can have as many as your sd card will hold. They will be in folder on your sd card called "nandroid" and you can rename however you see fit, just make sure you Do Not put any spaces in the name.
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if i rename them there, does it rename them in the restore menu so i know which is which?

duscar said:
if i rename them there, does it rename them in the restore menu so i know which is which?
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yes
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Okay, if a nandroid backup makes a total system image incl. apps and user data, I should be good to go.
Still wondering about how to pull apks and where they go. Any ideas there? See one of my above posts about it.
Also, I need to backup my ENTIRE SD card before a wipe, right?

[Q] switching between android roms

I did search. honestly. so im pretty sure that many people are annoyed when they see a new version of their current rom show, thus having to upgrade again loosing all their setting, apps, etc. personally, i've tried using titanium backup from mdeejay's rEVOlution 2.0 to 2.2 but it said that my apps could not be restored. so what would be the best way to painlessly switch android roms? sorry if a similar thread exists, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't..

1. this Thread should be in the "HD2 Android Q&A" Sub-Forum
2. There are many post's out there! Look into the build-threads!
(but i'm in a good mood) so...
3. ...here is my answer:
a) Data.img:
you can copy your old Data.img file into the new rom (Android-Folder) before
booting it. But use with caution, maybe the settings in the data.img are
incompatible with your new rom. (in that case - delete it and use the orig. data.img)
b) Titanium Backup:
- be sure that your Backup is the made with the same TB Version like the
one you trying to restore with.
(restoring from V 2.x.x to V 3.x.x does not work for me.)
- Use the Busy-Box offered by TB (Problems?-button) to prevent error's
- And be careful with restoring the settings! Maybe they are not compatible!
4. I suggest to rename the old rom folder to "Android_old" and
leaving it on the SD-Card for a while.
In case of problems you can rename your folders "Android">"Android_new"
and "Android_old">"Android". So you have the Option to play around with
Backup-settings and creating new one's.
Good luck!

first of all, thanks for the promt response. and secondly, i've already tried everything you've mentioned! when i used my old data.img, android booted normally. however, i had none of my apps, nor my settings. and i double checked my titanium version. it's the same as the one in the new rom. oh, and i started this thread because none of the given solutions would solve my silly little problem....

This sound's more like a problem with the revolution-build.
I don't had a problem like this with other Mdeejay-builds
(never testet revolution) and Mattc-builds
My data.img from a desire-build had worked in desire-hd-build.
But i'd switched back to the original Data.img to prevent possible failure.
Normally moving app's with TB works fine, settings are more
problematic.
But you have a very special problem.
Sorry, i cant't help .
I suggest to ask your question in revolution-thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790374

You don't have to restore the app with tb, maybe try downloading the apps then restoring the data separately
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You cant realy save anything but your apps. The builds can be different enough between versions that a clean install is the only way to guarantee that you have success. I keep Titanium back up apk on my card and the folder it makes as well. I dont loose my apps and only use it to back up and restore apps. You need to re-do all other settings as they can carry issues from one build to another. Some things will back up, others wont, its part of the trade off. When you change builds, most of the time its so different, its like changing phones, you just cant transfer everything.
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[Q] How do I backup/restore the entrie system?

Hi. I've recently got an X8, which is my first Android device. As I tend to customize and change everything I can reach (yes, I'm a Linux user , I updated to 2.1, gained root and started to explore the world of Android. Sadly, while editing the default theme, I managed to screw the system up to the point where it won't even boot anymore (although I still could access the shell via adb, but it wouldn't let me push files and I couldn't run su). I had to reinstall 2.1 via SEUS, which caused all of my settings and apps to disappear. I spent some hours to bring them back, and I would like to save the current state to prevent future failures. tl;dr: I'm looking for a way to backup and restore the whole system easily, any suggestions? A step-by-step guide is highly appreciated.
EDIT: I'm sorry, I apparently posted in the wrong forum but realized it too late. Please move to General.

install xrecovery and app2sd
when you mess something go to xrecovery\backup and restore\advanced restore\select your newest backup\restore system
when restore will be over,restart your phone and you will see all your apps and all your data like in setting or save game will not be deleted

after root, just install xrecovery to backup entire system..

or try backup with the default backup & restore app
2.1 system apps
simply download it and install as regular .apk

Can't delete or restore Clockworkmod backup

EDIT: Just realized I posted this to the S4 forum instead of the S3. Should I post again in the proper forum, or wait for the thread to be moved?
Hi,
After running the latest stable Cyanogenmod for a little while, I've decided to go back to stock. I've flashed custom roms and used CWM to restore my backup before, so I was comfortable with it. But this time, CWM couldn't find my backup. Eventually I figured out that it (and all my other original files) are in /0/0/0/0/clockworkmod. I understand this is because of 4.2's changes, but I don't know why I have so many 0 folders. Perhaps from flashing MIUI and CM so many times?
Anyway, I updated CWM to be compatible with 4.2, but also tried moving the clockworkmod folder to the root of the internal memory. Something went wrong, though, because although CWM can see the backup, it always fails at restoring /data. I noticed that instead of moving the clockworkmod folder, Windows had only copied them - perhaps partially. My phone now only has about 1GB of internal memory left due to the multiple folders, and I can't delete, move, or copy any of them. I do have my CWM backup copied to my computer, but not the blobs folder, so I'm worried that if I somehow manage to reformat my device, I won't be able to restore it without the blobs.
Also, I should mention that I'm not able to use adb, it tells me it can't find the device. I'm running Windows 8 64-bit.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate it. This is really frustrating.
Update: After a bit of waiting, I finally managed to copy my blobs and backup folders to my desktop and got adb working, so I reformatted the entire device and managed to restore it. No idea why I was having trouble before, but at least it's working again.

Vertimyst said:
EDIT: Just realized I posted this to the S4 forum instead of the S3. Should I post again in the proper forum, or wait for the thread to be moved?
Hi,
After running the latest stable Cyanogenmod for a little while, I've decided to go back to stock. I've flashed custom roms and used CWM to restore my backup before, so I was comfortable with it. But this time, CWM couldn't find my backup. Eventually I figured out that it (and all my other original files) are in /0/0/0/0/clockworkmod. I understand this is because of 4.2's changes, but I don't know why I have so many 0 folders. Perhaps from flashing MIUI and CM so many times?
Anyway, I updated CWM to be compatible with 4.2, but also tried moving the clockworkmod folder to the root of the internal memory. Something went wrong, though, because although CWM can see the backup, it always fails at restoring /data. I noticed that instead of moving the clockworkmod folder, Windows had only copied them - perhaps partially. My phone now only has about 1GB of internal memory left due to the multiple folders, and I can't delete, move, or copy any of them. I do have my CWM backup copied to my computer, but not the blobs folder, so I'm worried that if I somehow manage to reformat my device, I won't be able to restore it without the blobs.
Also, I should mention that I'm not able to use adb, it tells me it can't find the device. I'm running Windows 8 64-bit.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate it. This is really frustrating.
Update: After a bit of waiting, I finally managed to copy my blobs and backup folders to my desktop and got adb working, so I reformatted the entire device and managed to restore it. No idea why I was having trouble before, but at least it's working again.
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Glad you got it worked out..