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What are you plans for your G1 in the future?

What do you intend to do with your G1 after a year or two or after your contract has expired? I plan on keeping mine, and using as a just-for-fun device, or I might give it to my kids in 10 years as an antique phone that they can complain about having to use while all the other kids are using virtual headsets. I'm just curious haha

I'll probably keep using it until some freaking beast phone comes out.

Hang onto it. Backup phones can come in handy, for obvious reasons. Also, if my next handset is very securely locked out of root, I might want to have my Dream on hand for platform hacking.

I'll use mine for dyno, tuning my ecu through the phone, and controling my tv, lights, garage door, girlfriend, all through my phone.. Dreaming of course, but hey, it's called a "dream" right?

The only way I'll give up my G1 is if there is another Android phone that is super sweet looking with a hard keyboard too. Then, and only then, will I consider giving up the G1.
Oh, and no Samsung or Nokia or any other brand. Only HTC.

I've already found myself trying to keep my phone in its best physical condition so much that I am starting to not enjoy using the phone, bit of OCD on my side. Anyway, I installed a ShieldSkin around a month ago, and today I dropped my phone, and it happened to land on a pebble right on the edge of the phone in the small tiny area where the shield skin happened to not cover... so much for my 9 dollar investment, and now I got a dent in my phone that I keep staring at every single time I pick up the phone.

I'll sell mine and get some other Android phone.
Or maybe not
Currently I use Haykuro's 5.0G and I can't be happier with my device. Well, I could, if all the apps were working correctly

I will never give my G1 up as soon as HTC release another Android phone with more hardware change than and hard keyboard I will get it. But I'll keep my G1 as the first Android Phone ever!!!.
And right now I'm using Hakuro 5.1H and it's amazing stable everything works great I have fall in love with my phone more deeply.
Ps. My wife just red this post I left and she said OMG HOW [email protected]

i plan on getting a new phone before my two year expires, never had a phone that lasted more than a year so we'll see. every month it seems a new better phone comes out and unless they get rid of every phone with a hardware keyboard there is always an upgrade for me to buy.

im currently back in love with the g1 because of haykuros 5.0.1 rom
this is what keeps me on this phone right now
im hoping that by the time the huwaei phone comes out or the htc magic for the us comes out ill grab one of those just to check it out and if i dont like it ill still to the g1 until a better android phone comes out. the g1 is best of both worlds really. its got a hard keyboard and now it has a soft keyboard. people look at asthetics of a phone waaay to much now. its all about thin and sexy instead of comfortable and powerful. compared to the iphone i think the browser is the only good thing about the iphone now. eventually thatll have google as the reigning king. i think android has pretty much raped the iphone software wise and soon enough itll rape is style wise. the iphone style will never change and as u can see the android style will always be different. so even if were all using android each of our phones will be unique in maybe 3 or 4 years.
fingers are tired lol

Keeping it for sure unless another Android phone comes out with an actual keyboard.

this phone will be a collectors item lol, just wait and see
the first phone started by the open handset alliance? let alone ive got a white one and a black one, i just need a bronze one now, i have a couple very minor scratches on the bottom of my phone, ill have tmobile replace it just before i put it up and get a new phone, im liking the android phone that is slim like the iphone that i saw floating around online that should come out at the end of this year, that will probably replace my g1, but im definately keeping it, im also keeping copies of all the jf builds and the magic port builds as well, and every app that gets removed from the market im trying to get my hands on the apk for it lol, who knows right? ive seen old ass nokia phones holding there resale value because of there uniqueness, hopefully the g1 will too
with the ability ive seen in the devs and the porting of roms, i dont think this phone will become outdated as fast as my other phones have in the passed, in short, i think the hardware will become outdated MUCH sooner than the software

wootroot said:
the first phone started by the open handset alliance
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That... is actually a very good point...

SolemnWishing said:
That... is actually a very good point...
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nooo disagree with me, i want to have the only 1 of each color left working in a few years from now when jf is president of america

Haha I was thinking about also going out and buying a copy of Windows Vista and put it in a time capsule and 100 years from now when people open it they can laugh at how stupid we used to be.

SolemnWishing said:
Haha I was thinking about also going out and buying a copy of Windows Vista and put it in a time capsule and 100 years from now when people open it they can laugh at how stupid we used to be.
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oh that is epic, i think that just earned a spot in my sig... wait a moment... yep, it did

aw, sweet! haha

SolemnWishing said:
aw, sweet! haha
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so pay up....
this ad space isnt free man, thats prime placement in my sig, thats atleast worth 50 bucks

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Here you go!
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...thats low man, even for you...
not cool... not cool...

What are u going to do with your old phones?

As the title says, where do you put ur old phones? GF, sell, throw away, donate it?
I'm pretty happy that I managed to sell my HTC Tattoo, but maybe there are phone models which can't be sold anymore because they are not valuable anymore...

i have plenty of friends with less money then i

Selling my Htc magic hehe to a guy that was honest with me that he wants to buy them to fix and re-sell them (doesn't care about condition), and a good price too of 235$ canadian.
unless I can find higher i'll sell to him.
can't wait for sammy phone

The store I ordered it buys the old phones

As I do with all my old phones, give it one of the nursing staff who need it better than I.
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Forgot to say, it's an HD2

The phone i'm currently using is having its last breath and i don't know how it's working right now :\
Plus its company had a bankrupcy so even if i tried to donate it ,it'll be thrown back at my face ... guss what is it ?!
Its name is O2 Atom Life , i had Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 before but it died in front of my eyes so i went back to the mentioned device >_>
When i buy Galaxy S i want to do something with my O2 that'll makes me feel good and right now the only idea i'm having is throwing it from a high place

Gonna try to sell my bricked G1 on ebay. Hopefully someone would need parts when I do.

Giving mine to the GF, its the HTC Desire, which I still like immensely and want to keep around to play with when it gets Froyo etc

o2 mini
Putting my legendary O2 mini as table clock. Task reminder and daily weather report.

Wife's destiny!
The goal before my eyes, to buy the galaxy s, I had to promise my wife that she is allowed to crush my diamond with big hammer!!!
She hate's it so much, cause I played araound and flashed new ROMs all the time
I have a feeling that it will be getting worse with the galaxy s, but at least I have green lieght to buy one...

mderm said:
The goal before my eyes, to buy the galaxy s, I had to promise my wife that she is allowed to crush my diamond with big hammer!!!
She hate's it so much, cause I played araound and flashed new ROMs all the time
I have a feeling that it will be getting worse with the galaxy s, but at least I have green lieght to buy one...
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...... That's the trouble with Wives, they NEVER, EVER forget.
Men work in single-cell attitude.... we see something, and either walk away or buy it.
Women on the other hand are complex multi-cell beings, wholly composed of unknown quantities of interconnected or interwoven argumental parts.
....My heart goes out to you.

Beards said:
...... That's the trouble with Wives, they NEVER, EVER forget.
Men work in single-cell attitude.... we see something, and either walk away or buy it.
Women on the other hand are complex multi-cell beings, wholly composed of unknown quantities of interconnected or interwoven argumental parts.
....My heart goes out to you.
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Thank you man.
But, I love her and I especially love the idea to make a HD video of the crushing & perhaps burning session with wicked and wild look in her eyes.
I'm looking forward to the death of my Diamond since it is already half-dead and I'm really annoyed of it.
Greetings

mderm said:
Thank you man.
But, I love her and I especially love the idea to make a HD video of the crushing & perhaps burning session with wicked and wild look in her eyes.
I'm looking forward to the death of my Diamond since it is already half-dead and I'm really annoyed of it.
Greetings
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In that case.........

So very, very mad at my G1. A trip to the desert with my 12 gauge will set things right!

Use it as my drunk phone when I'm out and drinking.
Or maybe I just use my even older W850i for that.
X1 wasn't really cheap when it come out and I dont know if I want to lost it when I'm drunk.
It's still awesome phone.

Ill send in my nexus one to google to get it replaced for minor cosmetic damage. Then i'll either sell it, give it to the wife (which is unlikely since she drops and loses all the gadgets i give her) or put it in the draw on top of my Xperia X1i.

BuddyLee said:
give it to the wife (which is unlikely since she drops and loses all the gadgets i give her).
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Ahh, so you have one of those as well.
...and there I was thinking mine was from a 'duff batch'.

Beards said:
Ahh, so you have one of those as well.
...and there I was thinking mine was from a 'duff batch'.
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Dont even make me bring up umbrellas ... The loss of my umbrellas brings a tear to my eye ... they were not just regular umbrellas they were art.
A week later after she had borrowed my umbrella ... "Hey babe do you know where my umbrella is ..." She replies ... "Oh, yea, I forgot it in the train, im sorry. Can i borrow this other one its pouring outside?"
At that point I just have to give up and give in. It is a helpless cause ... what did i get myself into.

I can't give my old one to the misses, she already wants a Galaxy S too, and being Korean she thinks she's more entitled to the first one!
I'll probably put a stock ROM back on my HD and offer it up on FreeCycle.

I'll keep my touchpro and drop the sim in it when I'm out on the water. That way if my phone goes swimming at least it's not the galaxy.

Htc Evo With iOS4

Is it possible to put iOS4 on the evo and have a dualboot one for Android and the other for iOS4

No iOS is not open source

Thanks anyways

now why would you want to kill a perfectly good phone?

really.. spend the money and get an iPhone if that's what u want to do
Sent from my evo using XDA App

I wonder if the Evo would still be able to make calls if you put iOS4 on it

mebo73 said:
really.. spend the money and get an iPhone if that's what u want to do
Sent from my evo using XDA App
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The iphone is one cheap silicone case away from being very very good hardware. Just buy an iphone (and a cheap case) if you want ios.

why would anyone in their right mind want to poison their evo with apple's software???

No is just good to have different things on a phone

What is it about iOS4 that you can't get on the EVO/Android? My brother has the iPhone4, & there is nothing he has that i couldn't find in the Marketplace.
If you're looking for something specific, i'm sure you can find an Android version of it.

Don't kill the OP
Come on guys, it's a legit question (even if it might seem pretty blasphemous to us). As for the original question, if you want to dual boot, there's potential to put any Open Source OS on just about any hardware. If you want to have a closed source OS (like iOS, WinMo, WebOS, Blackberry OS [oh dear God WHY?!], Mac OSX Leopard, etc...) on your hardware, you'll pretty much have that pre-installed on the device. That's why you can put Android onto the HTC HD2, but you can't put WinMo 6.5 on the EVO 4G.
Bottom line, if you want iOS4 + Android, you'll have to buy an iPhone if you even want a chance. I don't think they have it working yet, but I know they've ported Froyo to the older hardware, so it might just be a matter of time.

Forum reeks of fanboyism. Simple question required a simple answer. The evo is far from a perfect phone... If that was the case.. I wouldn't have to root it and play tricks on my battery just to make it last longer than 5 hours. Android wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't how iOS changed the way we look at smart phones. And apps that aren't on the android? bejeweled 2, angry birds, words with friends, a half decent facebook app, espn score center is terrible on the droid as well... I could go on... Both phones have their flaws.but I can see why the interest in wanting a dual boot phone. more than likely not happening anytime soon if not at all.

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Forum reeks of fanboyism. Simple question required a simple answer. The evo is far from a perfect phone... If that was the case.. I wouldn't have to root it and play tricks on my battery just to make it last longer than 5 hours. Android wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't how iOS changed the way we look at smart phones. And apps that aren't on the android? bejeweled 2, angry birds, words with friends, a half decent facebook app, espn score center is terrible on the droid as well... I could go on... Both phones have their flaws.but I can see why the interest in wanting a dual boot phone. more than likely not happening anytime soon if not at all.
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Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect

Buy an ipod touch
- sent from beneath the earth

verse187 said:
Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect
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right, out of the 85k apps in the market place, absolutely none of them are good for anybody whatsoever, which explains why no one downloads anything from the market anymore, and also explains why android is definitely not catching up to iOS.

verse187 said:
Is it possible to put iOS4 on the evo and have a dualboot one for Android and the other for iOS4
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verse187 said:
Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect
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You know, you don't have to be an Apple fanboy (or girl) to want to see if this can be done. It's like trying to solve a puzzle. I really wouldn't want an iphone, but hacking iOS4 onto an Android phone would be fun. And, there are some apps for the iphone that don't exist in the Android Market.
BTW, I have a Dell Mini 9 that runs Snow Leopard just fine. Am I in love with Apple? Not really, though I have an iMac, as well as Windoze boxes and Linux, too. I'm posting from Linux on my dual boot Aspire One, wirelessly tethered to my Evo. I think I'm gonna try the Ubuntu hack for my Evo next. It's all about choices.

k2snowboards88 said:
The iphone is one cheap silicone case away from being very very good hardware. Just buy an iphone (and a cheap case) if you want ios.
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063_XOBX said:
I wonder if the Evo would still be able to make calls if you put iOS4 on it
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only if held in the left hand.

I wonder if the cameras would still work if you upgraded the Evo to anything other than 2.1, lol.

Epic 4G Game Pad mod

Hey guys,
After a month of planning and waiting, I finally went ahead and modded the physical keyboard on my Epic 4G.
If you want the entire story you can read it on my blog here:
http://www.brainlazy.com/article/technology/epic-4g-game-pad-mod/
However, if you just want to see the end result, you can check it out on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2407W5bIae8
Or if you don't want to click any of the links and just want to know how it came out?
Presentation: 5 out of 10
Performance: 9 out of 10
Hope you guys like the mod.

Nice work Did u take out the other keys u don't use out or u covered them
How come the evo cant do this? Sorry i could not resist
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I took out the other keys. It's actually pretty easy to take the keys out too. Just get an exacto knife and it will slide right underneath. The keys are only held together in the center, not all around.

wow man. I must say that i'm impressed.
I really like it. you seem more than adept with your epic gaming system!

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I took out the other keys. It's actually pretty easy to take the keys out too. Just get an exacto knife and it will slide right underneath. The keys are only held together in the center, not all around.
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Ouch that sounds??? Not good...I don't think I could do that...Maybe there's a way to cover those buttons that are not in use, and also disable them

OMG dude.. i am HIGHLY IMPRESSED! Would you think about starting a service, performing this task on other phones?
How difficult/time consuming is it? If we can workout the terms, i would love to have this done to my phone? Also, how likely would it be for us to raise the keys a bit? They arent very pronounced.

I couldn't do it but it defintely works fine. Glad your happy!

@Phen0m
Originally, I wanted to create a replacement keypad. Instead of having the keyboard, you'd open up the Epic and insert the new game pad.
I suppose I could continue work on that, this way I could sell the gamepad by itself to users so they could install it themselves.
But, I don't know how many people would honestly be interested in buying that.

If my effing proxy at work would cooperate I could view it. The website is blocked, but youtube isn't...funny how that works.

that is pretty cool unfortunatly i use my keypad too much and i cant find a free copy of the full droidemu, as iv no credit card to buy off the market.

thephawx said:
@Phen0m
Originally, I wanted to create a replacement keypad. Instead of having the keyboard, you'd open up the Epic and insert the new game pad.
I suppose I could continue work on that, this way I could sell the gamepad by itself to users so they could install it themselves.
But, I don't know how many people would honestly be interested in buying that.
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I'd be interested... as I've been thinking of ways to pull this off myself. The keyboard in it's default state isn't that great for gaming.

diablo
please tell me how to do this
where to get it and what program to use
thanks

@<3me
psxdroid and diablo psx rom

Thank you very much!
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@<3me
psxdroid and diablo psx rom
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I saw this on engadget. You could have waited for the gamegrip being developed for the Epic...

@Xhyperion
The game gripper isn't for me. I was looking for more of a PSPgo type of device. I'm not a fan of add-ons and stuff that I have to carry around.
For example, as soon as the Seidio battery extender comes out, I'm picking that up. I don't want to carry around additional batteries. I'm willing to deal with a little extra bulk if it means that my phone lasts twice as long.
Even though it's not for everyone, this is now the perfect device for me.

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@Xhyperion
The game gripper isn't for me. I was looking for more of a PSPgo type of device. I'm not a fan of add-ons and stuff that I have to carry around.
For example, as soon as the Seidio battery extender comes out, I'm picking that up. I don't want to carry around additional batteries. I'm willing to deal with a little extra bulk if it means that my phone lasts twice as long.
Even though it's not for everyone, this is now the perfect device for me.
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I use that keyboard setup on a normal computer and ive tried it with the epic but the other buttons do get in the way sometime so I can see how this can make gaming better I just don't wanna mutilate my baby.

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I use that keyboard setup on a normal computer and ive tried it with the epic but the other buttons do get in the way sometime so I can see how this can make gaming better I just don't wanna mutilate my baby.
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Very cool, I do agree with Xhyperion tho. I dont want to make my baby look crummy with out keys. plus i use the keyboard for alot of things.

Hey, what's your take on the keyboard skipping key presses, as discussed over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782203
Obviously it looks like your keyboard is registering every press. Do you know if you had any problems before you modded it?

thephawx said:
@Phen0m
Originally, I wanted to create a replacement keypad. Instead of having the keyboard, you'd open up the Epic and insert the new game pad.
I suppose I could continue work on that, this way I could sell the gamepad by itself to users so they could install it themselves.
But, I don't know how many people would honestly be interested in buying that.
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Well, im not sure either, but i know i would purchase one. I dont use my keypad for typing at all.. only gaming, and the extras keys.. are just that..extras. Definitely keep us posted!

KIN Skins

Well, the time has come.
Kinuser1 has gotten into the phone and was able to reskin and change configs a little bit. Making the phone have no icons and no status bars on bottom (time and recent).
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Also a few glitches were found.

He stated a guide will be put up tomorrow sometime to show how he made the Kin Writable so lets see if hes telling us the truth or not. This could be a big breakfor us. Crossing Fingers

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He stated a guide will be put up tomorrow sometime to show how he made the Kin Writable so lets see if hes telling us the truth or not. This could be a big breakfor us. Crossing Fingers
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Indeed sir. If I get access to the KIN's filesystem, then I'll try to make some modifications to Themes, Apps, and maybe Sounds.

Interesting, very interesting.
But on the other hand, i think that skinning is the last thing we should do, if the OS storage is opened.
Trying to open any non-kin-native App and/or the storage to the "user" like crazy peeps could be better.
So i like that "few glitches" instead "reskin"

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Interesting, very interesting.
But on the other hand, i think that skinning is the last thing we should do, if the OS storage is opened.
Trying to open any non-kin-native App and/or the storage to the "user" like crazy peeps could be better.
So i like that "few glitches" instead "reskin"
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you can follow all the progress on FaceBook page.
I personally want to reskin the most. If new OS becomes available, then I'll update.

I guess that i will wait. The relationship between facebook and me became a bit cold.

He said he will be posting a guide here on XDA around 5:30 or 6pm. Hes at school. Once this guide is up Im looking at you Kussack to get cracken if this thing is real. We want a new OS lol

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Once this guide is up Im looking at you Kussack to get cracken if this thing is real
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That's guaranteed to happen if a door is open... lol.

lol yeah I cant wait. I so want Android or even windows 7 mobile. I really do hate the Kin OS

wow, I've been reading a lot of John's and 1's post, I'm by far the biggest noob to this but I want to help.

4LC4PON3 said:
lol yeah I cant wait. I so want Android or even windows 7 mobile. I really do hate the Kin OS
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and I love the thought of windows phone 7 on the kin, even a watered down version would be enough for me. I would just like to see some apps and facebook integration back, that would be awsome. Idonno something like the live blocks on phone 7 with the contact syncing we see in phone 7 or even the non M kins.

calm down, calm down. Putting another OS here is not a piece of cake, and in any attempt, there is the (high) risk of bricking. That including a normal flash, not a experimental space orbital thing.
Also, we dont know if we can replace things around, or just put red instead green in colour things... so slooow down.
who is in the line to do the tests? I'm not buying another kin though! (3 is too much).

I'm all for exploring this rabbit hole as far as it goes, but I agree with JohnKussack that we should calm down about this being the breakthrough for a new OS. It may or may not be. Personally, I think even some small improvements to the OS we have can go a long way, such as being able to add or remove (Win CE?) apps, change the skin, replace the browser, enable flash, etc.

yea your right, just wishful thinking

johnkussack said:
calm down, calm down. Putting another OS here is not a piece of cake, and in any attempt, there is the (high) risk of bricking. That including a normal flash, not a experimental space orbital thing.
Also, we dont know if we can replace things around, or just put red instead green in colour things... so slooow down.
who is in the line to do the tests? I'm not buying another kin though! (3 is too much).
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how many have you bricked xD I think 1st we should come up with a recovery, which I'm sure your opensorce file system could help with

Just 1 one (and was enough, rofl).
I'm kinda .... skeptical yet. Personally, i doubt that a new os is feasible and think that just "filetweaking" is available (which would be OK for testing apps).
On the recovery... that's why i got another one. It's older brother is awaiting in a fridge.
Unfortunately, the mtp->storage wont be an option for it.

One thing I would like to see honestly is the Kin being able to play games. Not through Wifi either. games like angry birds or something.

I might be able to help.
johnkussack said:
calm down, calm down. Putting another OS here is not a piece of cake, and in any attempt, there is the (high) risk of bricking. That including a normal flash, not a experimental space orbital thing.
Also, we dont know if we can replace things around, or just put red instead green in colour things... so slooow down.
who is in the line to do the tests? I'm not buying another kin though! (3 is too much).
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I might be able to do some testing on things. I am new to kins, actually mine is arriving soon, but not new to bricking phones. I have done alot of work with android, and now have a tablet. I use it so much, I am giving up my thunderbolt, and switching to the kin twom to save money on data. I like the look of the phone, but I can't resist hacking away at every piece of electronics that get into my hands. Anyway, I am looking forward to being part of the kin community, and I hope more people get into this phone.

4LC4PON3 said:
or even windows 7 mobile
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There's a mobile version of Windows 7? Do tell...