install app in file store or main memory? - Sable

If i install a app in the Ipaq file store like resco file explorer,
1. will the program run slower?
2. If i do a hard reset will the program become corrupt?
3. are there any negatives to doing it?
thanks
TB

thebranded said:
If i install a app in the Ipaq file store like resco file explorer,
1. will the program run slower?
2. If i do a hard reset will the program become corrupt?
3. are there any negatives to doing it?
thanks
TB
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Hi,
1 = nope
2 = definitly ( cos it has shortcuts to the main System that points to needed files which are not in the program folder)
3 = iPAQ FileStore is only of limited size... Better use it to save pics and files you really don't want to loose
Dirk

cheers,
question 1 was my main concern. will probally install all the must have small apps, resoc file explorer, PIM backup etc so can save a bit of space on the main memory

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Memory savings!!

UPX rules! This was mentioned off-handedly in a thread a day or so ago -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51984 -- and it is simply amazing! It packs exe and dll files at about 1/3 the size, plus they run faster. More information here in Universal forum -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49990&highlight=upx
Here is how I found it works.
1. Unzip the program on your desktop computer, someplace simple to find (like "c:\upx")
2. Copy the exe and dll files from your ppc over to your desktop into that same folder. (I backed up AND saved backup copies of the files before going on.)
3. Go to Run and type cmd to open a command window. Use cd to navigate to the folder ("cd .." until you get to root, then "cd upx" or whatever directory you used.)
4. type "upx some.exe --brute" and magically the file reduces size by about 2/3! Amazing! Same name as before but smaller.
5. Copy the new files back to your ppc, same folder as before.
NOTES:
1. You may have to stop a program before you can copy back (e.g., VoiceCommand) or disable if it's a Today plug-in (e.g., PocketBreeze).
2. Only do this with programs you installed. If you compact a program in ROM, you will save nothing.
That's it! I'm no uber-geek, so if I can do it, so can you. But I thought the step-by-step might be helpful to other mere mortals.
Looks cool, but I have 2 gigs storage space so I won't be running low anytime soon.
mattucd said:
Looks cool, but I have 2 gigs storage space so I won't be running low anytime soon.
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Agree... I only did this with programs that I installed into main memory.
I am glad someone noticed my previous post! lol
I have pretty much all my exe's on my main memory and storage card compressed - but use upx compress your_program.exe command as file will open faster than with the brute command.
I use it to speed my device up and save memory - try it definite speed increases esp on the large files.
A word of warning though backup all you storage card and programs on main memory occ an exe or dll compression results in the file not working so has to be replaced with the original. (this happens more frequently with the dll's and thats why i decided to leave the dll compression well alone for now)
meschle said:
I am glad someone noticed my previous post! lol
... but use upx compress your_program.exe command as file will open faster than with the brute command.
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Yeah, some people read all the way to the end of a thread.
Could you explain the exact syntax you use? Possibly:
upx --compress your_program.exe ?
Or what?
Yes ok if the program was called explorer.exe
From the command prompt: upx compress explorer.exe
simple as that 8)
LOVE THIS PROGRAM!!!! This thing works great! LuXx
wgary said:
I Agree... I only did this with programs that I installed into main memory.
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Quick question...How can we move an EXE files under the windows programs in the main memory to the UPX ...\folder in the desktop computer?
leeky said:
wgary said:
I Agree... I only did this with programs that I installed into main memory.
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Quick question...How can we move an EXE files under the windows programs in the main memory to the UPX ...\folder in the desktop computer?
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In the ActiveSync on your PC, hit the Explore button with opens it into a File Explorer window. Then you can drill down to /Windows, copy the files, and paste them into the UPX folder. Don't forget to backup!
Also note improved syntax in previous post:
"upx compress program_name.exe"
leeky said:
wgary said:
I Agree... I only did this with programs that I installed into main memory.
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Quick question...How can we move an EXE files under the windows programs in the main memory to the UPX ...\folder in the desktop computer?
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In the ActiveSync on your PC, hit the Explore button with opens it into a File Explorer window. Then you can drill down to /Windows, copy the files, and paste them into the UPX folder. Don't forget to backup!
Also note improved syntax in previous post:
"upx compress program_name.exe"
wgary said:
In the ActiveSync on your PC, hit the Explore button with opens it into a File Explorer window. Then you can drill down to /Windows, copy the files, and paste them into the UPX folder. Don't forget to backup!
Also note improved syntax in previous post:
"upx compress program_name.exe"
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I did as what you mentioned but it won't let me paste because of the write protect file system (the one under the my device\windows\......there are several EXE files I would like to compress it such as. excel.exe and camera.exe.....but no luck
leeky said:
wgary said:
In the ActiveSync on your PC, hit the Explore button with opens it into a File Explorer window. Then you can drill down to /Windows, copy the files, and paste them into the UPX folder. Don't forget to backup!
Also note improved syntax in previous post:
"upx compress program_name.exe"
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I did as what you mentioned but it won't let me paste because of the write protect file system (the one under the my device\windows\......there are several EXE files I would like to compress it such as. excel.exe and camera.exe.....but no luck
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Those are in ROM so this really won't help. Just works with apps you install.
I just used UPX on a whole load of programs and dll files and saved a whole chunk of space!
For users that have not given this a go yet, it is important to make a backup of the file you are about to compress! Even though they might compress successfully and still appear to run, you may encounter some oddities. For example, I just shrunk down the registry viewing/editing plugin for Resco Explorer and whilst I can still edit it etc I found that some of the dialog boxes are missing some caption text

Where do I put the files?

Sorry if this seems a 'dumb ass question' but I'm new to this.
I want to make the adjustments to speed up my XDA Mini S as it seems awfully slow to start programs compared to my old XDA.
I have just downloaded the registerywizard and unzipped it to my desktop but where on my device do I drop the files? in which folder?
Sorry if it seems obvious to you guys but it's not to me.
Cheers
Hi, activesync your device and you can place them anywhere on your device but most people place them in \my documents and with a file explorer on the device click on the cab and it will install reg wizard on the device. Have you got both files needed for the installation?
When you say both files, do you mean RegistryWizard_PPC.ARMV4 & OpenNETCF.SDF.wce4.armv4??
One of the things that really bugs me is my device is for ever telling me I'm running low on memory and yet program memory always has loads of space (I also have a 1Gb card) I understand that the split can be changed from 50-50 using the registry?
Cheers
Thats right both those files are needed for registry wizard to work.
There is no way you can change the memory split in wm5, that was only with wm2003 etc..
You have to find a way to free up memory - I have 25mb after a soft reset. You say program memory is always ok - thats equivalent to ram, so maybe its storage memory thats low and asking you to free up memory? Empty internet explorer cache etc...
Ok thanks for that. I have cleared the cache which freed up 0.5 mb but I still only have 4Mb of free storage space on my device storage?
The only thing I have installed is Tom Tom since I got my XDA! (the maps are on my memory card and the program on my device) so why is there so little space?
Also I have downloaded the 2 files for the registry wizard and put them on my storage card but how do you run the reg wizard as there is no exe file or set up file?
Thanks
Have a look with file explorer on the device to see what is taking space - particularly look at \program files and \my documents. Can you recall how much program memory you had out of the box? It maybe the o2 extras that are filling it up and i imagine tom tom a pretty big install.
Use the attached treesize to look at memory - tells you at a glance how much memory is in each folder. Change default byte setting to kilobytes and its easier to interprate.
If you want to get rid of the o2 extras hard reset and then just as the o2 stuff is about to install do a soft reset - you will have a leaner and quicker device.
Hi, I put the file you suggested into my mem card but again, how do you run it?
there is no exe file or set up process, if I go to it from file explorer and click on it it says"There is no application associated...." the same as I get with the registry wizard??
Sorry if this is basic to you guys but I'm confused.
Incidentally the memory info is as follows:
Storage
Total 47.46
In Use 43.00
Free 4.47
Program
Total 44.01
In Use 23.31
Free 20.70
If I was to do a Hard re-set and stop all the o2 stuff installing, will it remember all the o2 service/message centre info for texting and voice mail etc?
Cheers
Thats a self installing cab - should start installing when you click on it through file explorer on your device. If it wont you have a glitch.
Find enclosed the exe - to be run on the device.
And no you will loose all your settings so you would have to write them all down before you hard reset etc... No fear we are here :wink:
Yep you storage is really full - thats your problem
I must have a clitch of some kind then as there is no file in the download to facilitate an install, same goes for the registry wizard I guess then file I downloaded then?
For example I only have 2 files on the 'tree' file after unziping, how many should there be?
Do you have a Reg wizard info to enable me to install it?
Cheers
It's a cab file - it should not be unzipped (but you are right there should be 2 files in the cab) - click on the treesize.cab or regwiz.cab through explorer on your device. They are self installing.
Well that's odd then as there is no cab file??
I have 2 files after downloading and unziping, they are:
TREESI~1.000 and TreeSize.001
It downloads it as at winrar file on my desktop so I have to then unzip it?
is it something with a setting when I download from this forum?
Hi, does not need to be unzipped place the whole file on the device and click on it.
Thanks you for that, I was assuming because it was a winrar file I had to unzip it, now installed
However I get an error message when I try to run the registry wizard, it states "an unexpected error has occured in registry wizard.exe" (in the details it says TypeLoadExeption, could not load type OpenNetCF.Win32.RegistryKey from assembly OpenNetCF)
I have tried soft resetting but this has made no difference, any suggestions?
Sorry to be a pain here but I really do appreciate your help here
I have also now moved the Tom Tom program to my storage card and I now have 26Mb free space now. :lol:
Have you installed this opennetCF? http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=9341
Its needed for reg wizard.
Thats cool got your memory back - tom tom what a hog!
Yes, I installed both???
I have tried removing the program and re-installing and soft resetting again but still I'm getting the same error??
Now just when I thought I was sorted.... :?
Are you installing reg wizard to main memory rather than storage card?
If you are, uninstall and try over again - are you using latest version 't'?
Yes I was putting both files into my storage card, is that that wrong then?
Thanks
Install onto device not the memory card :wink:
Done that now, all is working :lol: .... thank you for all your help Mark, it's much appreciated.

Deleting cab files in windows folder???

After installing a program f.ex. Pocket Informant - there is a 1 MB cab file in the windows folder. Can that be deleted - and then saving the storage space?
jenslilholt said:
After installing a program f.ex. Pocket Informant - there is a 1 MB cab file in the windows folder. Can that be deleted - and then saving the storage space?
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yes. you might want to leave a copy on your computer for ease of reinstallation.
--M
I don't mean on my PC..... but on my PPC. When I install a progtram on my PPC - is the cap file in the windows folder needed?
The reason is, that I discovered, that after installing - and then deinstalling some programs - the cap file where still in the windows folder of the PPC.
My question is therefore: is the cap file used for the running program? And if so, I guess the deinstalling have been poor. Probably common known - I just have no idea...
You can delete the cab file. You can also move it to a storage card in the event that you need to reinstall the program later. But you do not have to keep it on your device.

Disable the Cube in Touch Cruise

1. Unzip the Disable Cube.zip and copy the folder Disable Cube in storage card.
2. With resco explorer copy the four exe files from the folder Empty Files in windows folder.
3. With a registry editor in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings change EnableCube from 1 in 0 and make a soft reset.
The cube will not function anymore and you will have an extra 6,5 mb memory program memory available.
Attention: After you replace the original files, programs like SKTools and MemMaid may show the files "useless" and prompt you to delete them. DO NOT delete those files. If you do delete them by mistake then just restore the files as described in step 2.
In the Real files folder you can find the original files in order to come back whenever you want. Just copy in windows folder and change again the value in registry.
cannot overwrite, it said all files is read-only.......
Τry with resco explorer.
Finally I got rid of this useless cube, and I have more 7MB to RAM.
Nice finding man, Thanks!
panosha said:
Τry with resco explorer.
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i'm using resco file explorer, it said "File storage space is full or read only."
and also i can't change those file to not read-only at the properties.
abit said:
...i can't change those file to not read-only at the properties.
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Do not do this, you should only make what I describe in first post.
panosha said:
Do not do this, you should only make what I describe in first post.
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yes, i did it now, sorry about confuse your description, many thx!!
re-enabling is just following the opposite?
Yes my friend.
Wow worked like a charm, THAnk U Very Very much
6.8 MB free and get rid og the Cube
Weird. On my Touch, with a custom ROM I built that hasn't biotouch.exe and other cube resources, that means I would have 7MB more free RAM compared to a ROM on which it's present and active. Yet it's (definitely!) not the case.
Believe me I wish it would be the case
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Weird. On my Touch, with a custom ROM I built that hasn't biotouch.exe and other cube resources, that means I would have 7MB more free RAM compared to a ROM on which it's present and active. Yet it's (definitely!) not the case.
Believe me I wish it would be the case
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I did win about 2-3 MB on the normal low-memory Elf.
Thanks for this solution !
Tanx, works like a charm!!
Nice and it works, but a big Problem (HTC touch cruise, WM 6.0):
When i make a sidescroll in emails or sms i get an error message, something like "couldn`t open biotouch.exe". Any solution ?
With a registry editor in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings change EnableCube from 1 in 0 and make a soft reset.
Did you have made this?
bluemetalaxe said:
Nice and it works, but a big Problem (HTC touch cruise, WM 6.0):
When i make a sidescroll in emails or sms i get an error message, something like "couldn`t open biotouch.exe". Any solution ?
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Copy real biotouch.exe back to \Windows
Buck71 said:
Copy real biotouch.exe back to \Windows
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.................Why ?
i know you guys said this will give you more access to ram, but does removing the cube speed up the device at all (noticeably?)
i wish HTC would have just had an option to disable it in the system settings.
oh well.
Maybe someone will make a software that can do this automatically for us?
To complete and correct this error try this:
With a registry editor in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings change EnableScroll from 1 in 0 and make a soft reset
There is a similar metod to disable HTC Home?

lost of WM featrues

If I go to file explorer right click a file or folder, the options availble is very little, there's no 'property' option, is this because WM6.5 or HTC sense?
SPB is not compatible with HD2, is there another way to enable this? Cheers
By right click I assume you mean long key press?
yes!!
I want to know the folder size,
The internal storage memory is realy not much, 200Mb?
and 90mb is already used with all the reloaded stuff...
get Resco File Explorer, it has everything you need and it is way better then the standard file explorer. just checked and you can right-click (long press) a folder and it shows you it's location, size, attributes ...

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