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Did a search for SD cards and it came up with a SIM EMU post on this site. So going off topic, whats SIM EMU, what can it do for me, where can i get it (tried the link, that didn't work, tried a search and most of the sites aren'ti n english)
Seems like you can put more than one number on a card and switch without having to turn the phone off. Any further input, sounds like it could be good.
Will not work in UK, I found to my cost after destroying 2 sim cards. There is another twin sim holder that works with xda2 though, you just switch off and on when you wish to change sims.
Simemu is indeed a very good way to have up to eight numbers/accounts on one sim card. You select which one to use by pin number, so no more swapping cards over. It works fine in the XDA and just about any other unlocked phone.
The hard part is getting the needed info out of your original sim card. This is called the "Ki" and needs to be extracted. In the UK this has only been possible with all Orange and some O2 cards, never with Vodafone.
In the last year or so, some sims have appeared with a limit on the number of cycles they will run before self destructing, so attempting to extract the Ki can harm the card.
So it all depends on what networks you want to use and how old your sims are.
So can this be done with orange UK sims? My sims are about 4 years old, i have one thats much older, but i cancelled the contract on that so presumably disabled. Also have a couple of active PAYG sims.
I'd be interested to merge the new contract i have with an old number on the same card, would be useful.
I'm currently using everyphone divert, but it diverts all the time, even when my new [hone is off and old one is on. Annoying.
Other pain is it doesn't divert SMS, so i quite often miss them.
Yes, UK Orange cards of this age should be easy to extract the Ki from, payg or contract.
Also if you manage to get the Ki from the de-activated card, you should be able to get Orange to turn it back on as a payg or something.
Remember that only one number can be active at any one time, and you must never have the original sim turned on in another phone while using the copy of it in the multi sim.
Thanks for your replys kerr.
Have you done this yourself? Do you have any links of where i can find out information on how to effeectively try it and get it done?
All i'm looking for is that i have a sim with a great number. Its on orange no monthly tariff (i just pay for calls and just get a bill when i use it) Thats great for me as i hardly use it.
Then i got a new phone on contract (as it was way cheaper than upgrade). I've set up an everyphone divert from my old number to this one, but that annoys me as even with new one off and old one on, it still diverts. Shame.
So if i could get both numbers on the same sim that would be great, in principal! I get my number that i like, and i can quickly swith to new number to make calls (as its got free minutes). After the year contract is up i'll dump the new number anyway.
Whay can't you have the original sim on if its cloned?
Cheers
If you have the original sim switched on at the same time as the clone the system will know about it and you will probaly end up with a zapped sim courtesy of your provider.
there has to be a way around that :wink:
Have you done this yourself?
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Yes, I made a card about 2 1/2 years ago which contains:-
1X O2 Anytime account
1X O2 Offpeak account
1X Genie PAYT
3X Orange PAYT with different off peak times chosen
1X Spanish PAYT
1X Greek PAYT
It has worked fine in every phone I have tried it in.
Whay can't you have the original sim on if its cloned?
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You must not have them both on at the same time because they will both log onto the network and appear to be some kind of fraud attempt. (Somone else trying to use your account)
You really need to programme the card yourself rather than get it done because the last thing you would want is anyone else knowing your Ki.
To do this you would need a phoenix, a pic programmer and a blank silver card. All the software is free.
That sounds like one action packed card!
It would be useful just to have a couple of numbers on there, but you seem to be making the most of it!
Where can the exquipment be bought, borrowed? Is it readily available and cheap?
I see what you mean about someone else having the details. Could be a bit dodgy.
So this method is a bit like having a double sim car thing, but instead of having to turn the machine on and off, you can just put in a pin number.
With the XDA II tho, would the double sim card thing work if you turned flight mode off then on, would that switch the sims? Where can a double sim holder be got from
If you know anyone who is into Satellite Television, they will almost certainly have everything you need to do the job.
If you need to buy take a look at www.interesting-devices.com or www.maxking.co.uk. You could also look in the sat section on ebay.
If you go for a multi programmer like a Mastera, it would be all that is needed in one. See www.mcsat.co.uk.
When you change between numbers the phone does a soft reset, so I imagine flight mode on/off would have the same effect on a twin sim.
Using Supersim
Hello,
i read somewere that's impossible with new sim to read the Ki code of the sim because this code is read-protected.
Tring to read this you can destroy the sim.
It's correct?
I have an italian sim by vodafone!
Thanks for the reply.
Davide
Yes, that's right. Most of the newest SIM cards has a newer algorithm, so u cannot clone it. I don't know about your SIM card, maybe you have an old one. However, if U have 250 entry names in your phonebook, than it's probably new one and it could not be read, but do not be afraid to destroy it..., that will happen if U'l try to read it a few hours again and again....hope this helps!
Regards!
P.S.:
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only.
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorythm to code KI key.
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan 65536 times. If the scan is over 65536, the SIM Card will be locked. This SIM Card will not work any more.
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only.
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorythm to code KI key.
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan 65536 times. If the scan is over 65536, the SIM Card will be locked. This SIM Card will not work any more.
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Hello,
i read somewere that's impossible with new sim to read the Ki code of the sim because this code is read-protected.
Tring to read this you can destroy the sim.
It's correct?
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Ki is stored in SIM card like CHV in respective file, but in Ki file's header all permission bytes are FF, e. g. it is impossible to read/write etc. with this file from external. From internal (COS) it is possible to read... the SIM do this when it calculate SRES+Kc
am interested in using my 2g O2 sim & my 3g O2 sim in the exec, as i have 2 separate contracts. What product would you recommend? will the XDA II ghost dual sim holder fit/work? and is the combination of 2g & 3g sims possible? Thanks
dual sim holder
just oredred an xda exec and have the same query regarding dual sim holders. i will be using orange and 3 network sim. has anyone found out if the xda2s dual sim holder is compatible with this device?? thanks in advance
How do these work then? Say I'm using one sim for voice and one for data, obviously I can't use both at the same time (or can I?). So, when I want to go online, do I press some key combo and then the handset soft resets? Can it be made to automatically redirect all calls to the other sim and then cancel diverts when I swap back?
normally 2 sim cards go into a holder and the holder has a single sim which goes into the phone. you turn phone on and ONLY ONE sim card is active the other is effectivtly off. turn phone off and on (in our case flight mode) and the SECOND sim is active and first one is off. with some software from wivit you can actually control which sim is on/off from the phone itsel without switching phone on/off and some digital holders provide that facility via STK software built into the XDA phones. that is how twin sims work, but the main question is has anyone tried this with the EXEC model just yet???
So xiasma you could use one for voice and one for data and try to remember which one is on and which is off.
just to update everyone
i took the gamble and bought a dual sim card holder designed for the II/IIi and tried it in my EXEC, and............ IT DIDNT FIT!!! hehehe
guess we'll have to wait for a dedicated EXEC dual sim holder
ishaqmir said:
just to update everyone
i took the gamble and bought a dual sim card holder designed for the II/IIi and tried it in my EXEC, and............ IT DIDNT FIT!!! hehehe
guess we'll have to wait for a dedicated EXEC dual sim holder
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I made it fit!!
I have the same dual sim card holder and in order to make it fit I removed Exec's sim card holder. You can easily remove it by pulling it carefully out. It's pretty easy. Afterwards, place the dual sim card without the sim holder and overturn it. Then place the battery over it and with little push you'll hear the "clip" sound which means that the battery is placed. Finally, place the plastic cover and voila!
nope, tried it. there is no way u can place it under the battery without causing IMMENSE pressure underneath it. will wait till they release one that can lay over the battery as opposed to under it.
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nope, tried it. there is no way u can place it under the battery without causing IMMENSE pressure underneath it. will wait till they release one that can lay over the battery as opposed to under it.
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Yes, actually a dual sim holder that could lay over the battery would be better.
However, it's not that bad as you describe. Did you REMOVE the pda's sim card holder before trying doing what I did?? This way you gain more space under the battery.
Hi all
Demon could u please tell us whether u used both 3g n 2 g sim cards with ur daul sim adapter and did u had any problems when u mixed a 2g sim with 3g sim?
Also did any body tried trimming of sims as required for NEW universal digital dual sim as shown on this website
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
Looking forward for more input from others as i definately need a solution to avoid carrying another mob with my Exec.
Thanx in adance
Jatt
jatt said:
Hi all
Demon could u please tell us whether u used both 3g n 2 g sim cards with ur daul sim adapter and did u had any problems when u mixed a 2g sim with 3g sim?
Also did any body tried trimming of sims as required for NEW universal digital dual sim as shown on this website
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
Looking forward for more input from others as i definately need a solution to avoid carrying another mob with my Exec.
Thanx in adance
Jatt
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No, I haven't tried to mix a 2g sim card with a 3g one. Ive done it only wit h 2g ones.
I have also trimmed cards but not for this specific dual card holder. I did it for another one that you had to switch off the phone and on again to change the active number and it worked pretty well.
Hi Demon
Thanx for quick reply
Whats the name of ur dual sim holder which ur using for exec and is this the one which i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...450764652QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Do u hav to switch on and off to use the other sim card or is it the one which gives u a option to choose from sim 1 and sim2 without switching it off?
Thanx again
Jatt
jatt said:
Hi Demon
Thanx for quick reply
Whats the name of ur dual sim holder which ur using for exec and is this the one which i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...450764652QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Do u hav to switch on and off to use the other sim card or is it the one which gives u a option to choose from sim 1 and sim2 without switching it off?
Thanx again
Jatt
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It's the one you have to switch off and on again your phone and I bought it for my XDA IIs I had before from the guy of your link.
Just bear in mind that sometimes it doesn't work on Exec. I mean that even if you switch off and on again, the sim card doesn't change and you've got to do it again. I don't know why this happens, I didn't have such problems with this dual sim card on my XDA IIs.
Did anyone manage to find a dual sim holder that works with 3G USIMs?
I could really do with one, but am struggling to find one
hi
i am awaiting delivery of 2 different type of dual sims,
one which requires the sim card to be trimmed
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....7710&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
jatt said:
hi
i am awaiting delivery of 2 different type of dual sims,
one which requires the sim card to be trimmed
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....7710&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
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Please let us know about your experience as soon as you try them!
jatt said:
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
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For a start that's a fake product, so god knows how it will perform.
see here http://www.sim-max.com/?language=en...d.php&main=newspage.php&down=en_copyright.htm
I have a sim max reader and 12 in 1 card, but they only work with V1 sim cards (All I've managed to clone is a cpl of really old Orange sim cards)
All the others either just don't copy, or don't copy and feck your sim card!
Nice idea tho :roll:
Hi Hollinshead
Were u able to use them as advertised , like change to different no.s and were able to make calls with them (the old orange sim cards u copied)?
Jatt
jatt said:
Hi Hollinshead
Were u able to use them as advertised , like change to different no.s and were able to make calls with them (the old orange sim cards u copied)?
Jatt
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Yeah it works fine with the orange sim cards, its an amazing piece of kit, not cheap tho!
If only it would work with v1.2 and v2 sims it would be mint!
jatt said:
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I emailed the seller about this item.
Ebay Question said:
Question from hollinshead
Item: ** NEW (No Cut) Dual Sim Card Holder** (6452231121)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
hollinshead is a potential buyer.
Will this work with 3G USIM cards?
Thanks, David.
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And I got the following reply back :?
Ebay Responce said:
Response from d.d.isk
Item: ** NEW (No Cut) Dual Sim Card Holder** (6452231121)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
d.d.isk is the seller.
Sorry No
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hi
its still not clear whether it will work and their r issues that even if it works will it fit?
Have a look at these links which talk about dual sims for 3g phones and
O2 exec
Will get at least one of them by saturaday and will post result for a trimmed pay as u go 3g sim and later about the un cut one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...451816766QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.irwebonline.com/acatalog/O2_XDA_Exec_Twin_Sim_Cover_-_Ghost_Dual_Sim.html
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
http://www.speedsafe.co.uk/category.php?id=29
and also there is lots of talk about STK function which gives u option to switch sims online, dont know whether it will work on exec?
Demon can u elaborate how did u managed to fit that dual sim holder, r u using it now and any problems
i m bit fearful about playing with sim holder
ok bye
Hey does anyone know if there is anyway to make a copy of the sim card so i can have 2 cards with the same number?
Not that I am aware of. I believe the ID is pretty much unchangeable on a sim but these days almost anything is possible. I know that T-Mobile's system will not allow two sims with the same ID on the network at the same time. Not realy sure but I think there are legal issues with it as well. If it is illegal then better to just let it go.
It is possible to copy your SIM card, however you cannot have two SIMs with the same serial number registered on any network at one time. You must power off one phone then power on the other.
Beware though, SIM card cloners are very slow and carry a significant risk of ruining your existing SIM card in the process.
If you still want to do it, eBay is your friend.
thainess said:
Hey does anyone know if there is anyway to make a copy of the sim card so i can have 2 cards with the same number?
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I know they have that device at Tmobile stores. I had them use it for me to clone my existing sim card that was going bad.
the device they use at T-Mobile stores only copies your contacts. the actual SIM id is changed in their system so that your account, phone number, and SIM id all line up. once a SIM is bad the number is no longer used. and yes, Ebay is your friend.
Sorry if this has been covered but i have my contacts on my sim card but need them on the phone to sync to "my phone" (storage place) question is how do i delete the ones on the phone afterwards without going through all 200 contacts manually?
Paul. (yes there is allways one!....me.)
try sim manager
Sallcho thanks for reply but i still cant do it, (sorry)
i have gone on sim manager but cant seem to delete the contacts on phone but leave the ones on the sim. there is to many options!
Paul.
Oh, I thought u need to delete the SIM ones and leave the phone ones. So if you need to delete the phone ones, and leave the SIM ones, just take out the sim card and try going to sim manager again(I think it should still work with SIM card taken out) and try deleting it there Your SIM contacts will be saved cuz no sim card is inserted
Wicked! thanks mate, btw couldnt go on sim mnger cos there was no sim! so just went on contacts and deleted there,thanks for sending me in right direction
Paul.
Need the cabinet files to configure phone for Airtel mobile network(India).... I believe clubimate.com had these settings... but that site does not work anymore...
Thanks
can't seem to get any help around here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427092&highlight=Airtel
found by using search for the word Airtel if you need other hits
well i've tried dat b4, but it doesnt seem to help, my phone is not detects the SIM card but its always on 'off'... i can't access STK or SIM contacts either...
These problems started appearing after I fitst flashed over the original ROM that came with my phone(why didnt I take a backup ),
It actually started I think when I messed with the EXTRom, I feel this cos now my extrom does not auto execute after a hard reset or after a flash... 0
So i feel some necessary files aren't being installed...
Any ideas?????
same thing with my htc vox. wont detect sim card.
Clean the contacts.
flyboy
do u mean SIM card contacts??? or phone contacts?
I don't really have any contacts on the phone memory cos I dont use that phone now, for obvious reasons..... but the SIM card works perfectly on any other phone...
And what do u mean by 'cleaning'? As in just delete all the contacts or sumthin???
Thanks
errmm....
metal contacts on sim and phone!!!!!
lol
flyboy
well it does detect the SIM card so I dont think theres any problem with the contacts of either SIM or phone..
The problem is it just says 'phone is off' with no option to turn it on...
The reason why I know it detects the SIM card is cos when I remove the SIM card the network icon says 'No service', and when I insert the SIM card I get the message 'The phone is off'..... So that obviously mean it detects the SIM card on the phone but its not able to turn on...
Any ideas?