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Just purchased a GPS receiver for my Hermes - Does anyone know

Hi folkes
I've just purchased a GPS (bluetooth) receiver for my Hermes/SPVm3100 and I was wondering what good software there is out there that I can get/use to make the most of it.
I've got Google maps and Live search which both work really well finding locations with GPS but would like something else/better.
Any comments much appreciated
Regards
JON

I would have to recommend TomTom - it's probably a predictable response, but for a reason
I've tried Navigon and really didn't like - I couldn't find an easy way to browse the map and just find the place I wanted to go to and it ran a bit slow for my taste.
TomTom is the only choice in my opinion (though, the iGO software looks quite cool too but i don't think there's any UK maps as yet
Cheers,
Smiffy.

The best software are : TomTom, I-Go and Route66
Check them out and pick one that suites you the best
P.S. Don`t get me wrong but this has nothing to do with WM6, this should be in Hermes General IMHO

another vote for tomtom. i like route66 but the map size is huge, compared to tomtom

Which GPS receiver did you get..and do you like it or have any issues with it? Just curious..

I'm using TomTom. It's pretty good.

Hi,
A nod towards Tomtom, i tried a couple of others forgot what, but nothing was as nice to use as tomtom. (despite its anoyances... why can't i decide how far to zoom in, why must tomtom decide it knows best a few seconds after i have set my desired zoom level... "bad tomtom!! bad!"
If you want to use your hemres for off road navigations
(walking, cycling, hiking that kinda thing)
anquet is very good. Its a digital version of the proper Ordiance survey maps, you can now buy it online for just the area you want and download the maps. I wouldn't recomend it instead of a propper map, as a flat battery could leave you stranded but as an extra its fantastic!!!!!
auto centering and tracking 1:25K maps are really nice for hiking off.
(bit pricey though.)

One vote for iGuidance Been using iGuidance for 2 years, version 2 and now i'm on v. 3. They just released v4. But i'm in the US.

my vote is for iguidance v3... just wish it had the traffic feature of tomtom6... tomtom for me lags and has made me miss a turn or 2, but its also got me out of a few traffic jams...

TOM TOM 6 DOES the job for me the maps take up some room but it works 100 percent with wm6

My vote is TomTom as well.
I tried a couple others and they looked like toys compared to TomTom

tomtom is the most used mapping app, it has the best support and features available like pois extra voices but you should be aware there is a known freezing bug on most hermes configs.

iNav v4.0 is completely compatible with WM6 on the 8525. It's been a good prog and v4 added TextToSpeech and more compressed maps. This is US version, don't know of it's Euro version status.

My vote is for iGuidance v3. I've used TomTom 6 but the Maps were really outdated here in Florida. Plus I had issues getting TomTom to pick up my OnCourse GPS. iGuidance worked flawlessly and had a friendlier user interface.

I've had no freeze issue since i went to version 6.0.30
BUT the mute issue is anoying me!
Iguidance is only available for North America mapping isn't it?

TomTom its the best, i tried igo, route66, ndrive, and TomTom, rules.....
Go for it
If you need help, ask me!

I use Tomtom 6. Very easy to use, nice iterface. I won't say I never get a crash, but the crash is usually when turning it on or exiting - it has not let me down mid journey.
Mike

If you can afford it TomTom is very good.. but also worth a look is Smart2GO (I know its Nokia owned but there's a Windows Mobile version)
It uses more up to date maps than TomTom (IMHO), is totally free.. has free updates of any map anytime you want it (updated twice yearly).. full world coverage, maps can be downloaded either via a pc (totally free) or in sections as needed over the air (with data costs of course - but no other charges)
They make the money on addon's.. like navigation by voice which is chargeable (but it works out way way cheaper than TomTom and you can buy a year of UK voice navigation coverage for way less than a single country of TomTom maps.. then when you go on holiday just pay for a week of coverage for that country.. saving a huge amount)
I actually get on well with it and like the fact you can get free map updates whenever you need them.
www.smart2go.com and you can try out the whole lot for free. assuming you dont need voice navigation its free for life.. if you do its dirt cheap.

I am looking for a good set of Scottish/UK maps/application that is wm GPS compatible - designed for walkers/hikers. Tomtom 6 and the likes always tries to jump you onto the nearest road which is pointless if you're on a remote trail.
Mike

I'd look into MemoryMap Mike.. its all Ordenance Survey Licenced maps at varying scales.. and it works fine (is designed for..) for walking/hiking.. It works on WM devices too.. and there are a huge number of maps available as addons.. including themed packs such as hikers guides etc...
Its way more detailed than TomTom, but theres no navigation of course as its a GPS mapping solution not a navigator.
It can even do a very nice 3d view of the landscape based on the OS gradients of the maps.. its very clever stuff.
oh should have added the url
www.memory-map.co.uk the sites a bit of a mess but the mapping is top quality. Theres a few online places doing the software and maps at discount, and you often get good deals at outdoor shows apparently.

Excited about GPS... What's the best software?

I want to get some sweet GPS software for my mogul..
There's a few things I'd like.. If I can get them out of one application then GREAT... If not, I'm ok with that too.
1) moving maps... for finding my way
2) setting up tracks and exporting data to excel so that i can see if it's ACTUALLY faster to take that shortcut...
Thoughts?

I use Google Maps (Free) and TomTom alot (pay)

I use Window Live Search ( Free) in my opinion it has greater functionalities then Google Maps, better picture quality too ( well on my end) and Tom Tom Navigator 6 ( Purchased). Great application, It would be better if it had satellite street pictures.

I use live (free) I have found it to be the best at routing, and it has sat pics, and the gas price piece is priceless - saved me 3 buck on a fillup today!
I also use Navizon (they pay you) a lot, like everywhere I go, and have pulled in a c-note in the past month!

I use garmin and googlemaps. I did use tomtom,but garmin does not seem to need something to initialize the gps first. Im hoping it has better coverage info for my area too,but have not tried it much yet.

For offline navigation, I like Garmin more than TomTom. Not only it doens't need intermedia software to active GPS, but also it provides better layout. TomTom puts street name at the bottom in a smaller font size, which makes it harder to read.

google and MS Live are nice free apps.. i find myself using both equally... satellite images on MS seem to be clearer, close up..
Paid for iGuidance 4.0.. awesome. true text speech - will announce street names and upcoming turns.. awesome mapping and great interface..
tried Garmin Mobile XT for a couple of days, but quickly uninstalled after seeing iGuidance. Garmin was a little slow and clunky, and did not display street names a majority of the time...

Iguidance
I used Tomtom for a while, most of their most recent maps were outdated for my area. So, I tried iGuidance....LOVE IT. You need GPS gate though to route the signal to iguidance.

Zeusus said:
I used Tomtom for a while, most of their most recent maps were outdated for my area. So, I tried iGuidance....LOVE IT. You need GPS gate though to route the signal to iguidance.
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I tried iGuidance last night with Baf's GPS Toggler to enable it, but I lost my signal after a couple miles. Is GPS Gate the preferred way to prime iGuidance?

Are there any settings in iGuidance to speed up the signal refresh rate? I tried iGuidance for its TTS, but it is extremely slow, can't stand that. Any tips?

Which GPS Guidance Software?

I have searched and can't find a thread asking everyone which they use and which is the best. Would be great, I think, for everyone if there was a poll option on the boards but since there isn't I will just ask.
I have found almost 20 different software packages for WinMo that offer Voice GPS Guidance, who uses which and which does everyone feel is the best?

I just use Live Search. No voice, but it is free and works well enough. And it is cool to be guided on satellite views.
I have Tom Tom 5 installed, but I hate it and every time I try to use it I give up. Plus it is a serious processor/battery hog. I have a Garmin GPS on my motorcycle that is way more user friendly, thus my dislike for the TT5 software.

I thought it was a simple question, guess it wasn't...

I think it's a great question. Personally I find that if I am searching for a person or a retail location that Google Maps works great. Satellite imagery is nice also. There are several features that Google Maps does not have that I use iGuidance for. Certainly everyone knows that iGuidance offers step by step but I also like the fact that I can go into a 3D view which I find easier to view while driving. Also the ability to switch between POV and "North always up" is handy.
I have unlimited data so I don't mind streaming Google Maps but that is something serious to consider. Also iGuidance does not require any signal from the carrier. The program and maps all reside on the sd card so you can use it in backwoods...
I use both those programs extensively and would prefer not to make a choice. But if I did, I'd choose iGuidance since it offers many more features. Google Maps best feature is it's search ability. Thats what I use it for the most. Then I usually cut and past the address into iGuidance for step by step...
Good Luck.

mostly, i use iGo 2006 (outdated - need to upgrade to iGO8)
iGO is flippin fantastic. i have a hott british chick as my voice guidance, insane POI options, automatic route recalculation. awesome. i want to try Garmin, but havent had the time or patience to figure out how to get it to work with internal GPS

I've used almost all of them with the exception of iguidance.... guess I'll have to try that out next. My two favorites for dedicated GPS is Garmin Mobile XT and TomTom 6. There are pluses and minuses to both of them. Garmin has free traffic, weather, etc., where TomTom has it for a month for free then you have to pay.
Graphics on the Garmin are exactly what you would see on a retailed Nuvi - except the page rendering is pretty jerky and not smooth at all. TomTom on the other hand is smooth as silk. As you turn or move forward, the map follows you along quite nicely.
Route calculations are different between the both as well. They both do a decent job in their calculations, but Garmin takes considerably longer - up to a minute in some cases to calculate a route. TomTom on the other hand, usually takes less than 5 seconds. Neither one would be a deal breaker for me, as I usually only look for routes when it is a long drive where a minute's worth of calculations doesn't make that much of a difference...
Hope that helped! I know I'm more confused now!!!

i have used iguidance, garmin xt, tomtom 6 and now tomtom 7. here is my personal opinion:
iguidance has tts(it pronouce the street name), which is a big plus. however, the routing engine is not very good. if you go an interstates trip, i dont recommend it. iguidance also has poor to average 3d views. it has very nice 2d view though. iguidance 2009 ppc with new navteq with "traffic pattern" and 3d lane changing view is coming out in august 2009.
garmin xt has nice 3d view, but the 3d autozoom zooms out way too much, specially on a long drive. if turning off autozoom, you dont get any zoom in when you about to make a turn. the gps lags quite a bit behind for me, perhaps 2 seconds behind real time. all gps navigation software lags a second behind real time, except for tomtom which predict .5 and 1 second ahead. the routing engine of of garmin xt is not so good either. i have entered several know destination of friends and families home and it never gave me an ideal route. i also tried to route from san jose, ca to falling waters, wv and it have me go down to las vegas and through interstate 40. the ideal route would be interstate 80. garmin xt does have traffic, however, from my understanding is that it doesnt update routing base on traffic info during driving. correct me if i'm wrong. garmin xt also has the best POI search engine.
tomtom 6 routing engine is not that much better. it doesnt give me the ideal route to friends and families destinations, but it did route me through i80 instead of through las vegas and i40 when i tried to route from san jose, ca to falling waters, wv. the traffic feature on tomtom6 works really good, but its not free. traffic updates continuously and update your route accordingly. i've seen traffic work again and again for me. tomtom6 also predict gps info .5 and 1 second ahead of time so you get virtually no lag, tomtom is the only software that does this. the 3d display is video smooth like and the 3d autozoom is perfect for me. the menu of tomtom is also very easy to use. you can navigate through tomtom menu with one hand, and entering destination address, it is also the easiest. some other negatives with tomtom6 is that map is outdated. you can not search any POI within a range. you have to search POI within a category and sometime the category that you want to look is not there. also the "next street" name of next turn is small and way at the bottom.
i like tomtom7 the most. most of what said above about tt6 also apply to tomtom7, but tt7 has much improved map and routing engine. it has the best routing engine by far. when entering families and friends destinations in different cities from 50 to 100 miles away, it always give me the most ideal routing. version 7 map also has mapshare which you can get map correction from thousands of other people using the same map. my g/f neighborhood in WV and my cousin address in PA are not in any of the previous navteq(2008) and teleatlas(2007) map, it is now showing up in the latest telelatlas map. in certain big cities, version 720 also offer detail information including side walk and building and house floor plan showing up as 3d shaped that resemble the floor plan of the particular place. it even has my neighbor's swimming pool. the down points of tt7 is that it does not offer text to speech, and like tt6, the POI search sucks.
i highly recommend tt7. i think the most important feature of a gps navigation software is its map and routing engine. you can download tt7 from this forum and buy the version 7.20 north america 2gb map for about 70 bucks, and you are good to go.

sadthai & greymatter...
Great write ups. I have tt6 and now will look at tt7 but I have always wanted good feedback from those who have tried others to compare. I really wanted iguidance just to get the street name working but I need fast rendering....

I have been googling like crazy... where can you buy TomTom7?
The only thing you find on the net is the cracks... and a lot of them

parcou said:
sadthai & greymatter...
Great write ups. I have tt6 and now will look at tt7 but I have always wanted good feedback from those who have tried others to compare. I really wanted iguidance just to get the street name working but I need fast rendering....
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Yes...tt7 is nice...thx all

I know I am dredging up an old thread here, but do any of these programs offer a "trailing" feature. so that you can turn on and save a line of where you have been? I am looking to map some trails that are not on maps and would like this.

Which is the best off-road GPS application?

Greetings,
Too much has been said about car navigation, yet I am not too sure as to which is the best… Now, which is the best off-road GPS application (I know this is subjective)? I am looking for an application that will track everything, be able to download online map and include guidance (voice ideally) to take me back to my original point. I have tested Run.GPS Trainer, which is cool but it is more orientated at sport. It is interesting to hear how many calories you have burn, but I am looking for all round application. Plus, Run.GPS is very expensive and keeps on reporting “unexpected error” on HD when using the navigation feature.
Any suggestion with some details from people who have used any of these for outdoor activities will be appreciated.
Thank you...

It´s the best.....
Pathaway

Memory Map
Lots of maps, including all the Ordnance Survey 1:50 000, 1:25 000 and aerial photos. Good integration with the desktop app.

I'll second Memory Maps. Bit expensive for OS maps, but very good. If you want to try on the cheap get the V5 European edition. Lets you import scanned maps (tiffs) .

Thanks so far...!
Thank you for all the feedback so, but I am surprised no one has mentioned the likes of GP Tuner that I see on Handango. Are all the above suggestions highly sophisticated pieces of software? Are these applications user-friendly?! I was looking for a solution that meets the original requirements, in addition to ease of use (moving maps, downloadable {Google..}, x to y routing…. I will still check some - I assume they are HD/WVGA compatible!
Thanks

Hi there,
I'm personally using OziExplorer, and have loaded scanned maps into it (you can calibrate any image you want and use it as a map), and the interface is really powerful for route tracking and navigation. However, i think it doesn't support online map downloading, so depending on how important it is for you, it may not fit the bill.

moullas said:
Hi there,
I'm personally using OziExplorer, and have loaded scanned maps into it (you can calibrate any image you want and use it as a map), and the interface is really powerful for route tracking and navigation. However, i think it doesn't support online map downloading, so depending on how important it is for you, it may not fit the bill.
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Thank you - yes, I wish to be able to download map from wherever I am, so not an option for me. Calibration is another troublesome process for me....the software should do that for me!

i use garmin xt.
that way i have street maps for all european countries with routing and everything AND topographic maps.
For instance for Switzerland i've got a 1:250 000 topographic map with hiking paths and it even shows POI's like mountain shelters (for the offroad stuff) and loads of more common POI's like hotels or restaurants.
You can record tracks, but it's turned off by default.
Only thing you cant do is download maps, so you have to install them before going off
Also, what i really like is, if you have 2 maps of the same area installed, one topographic, one with streets and so on, the street-map is layed on top of the topographic one, so you have a map with great accuracy while still being able to calculate routes.
Overall it serves my needs pretty good (I live in a big city where it helps me find shops or other locations, but my parents live somewhere up in the mountains, so i go hiking quite often), only the interface needed some getting used to.
Also, the maps are quite expensive, and well, having to buy garmin Xt for the phone, MapSource for the pc (to transfer maps) and the maps themselves can add up to a lot

I'd love to see ViewRanger ported from S60 to WM - it's better than the WM solutions that I've seen so far.

Excuse me?!
Magicdead said:
i use garmin xt.
that way i have street maps for all european countries with routing and everything AND topographic maps.
For instance for Switzerland i've got a 1:250 000 topographic map with hiking paths and it even shows POI's like mountain shelters (for the offroad stuff) and loads of more common POI's like hotels or restaurants.
You can record tracks, but it's turned off by default.
Only thing you cant do is download maps, so you have to install them before going off
Also, what i really like is, if you have 2 maps of the same area installed, one topographic, one with streets and so on, the street-map is layed on top of the topographic one, so you have a map with great accuracy while still being able to calculate routes.
Overall it serves my needs pretty good (I live in a big city where it helps me find shops or other locations, but my parents live somewhere up in the mountains, so i go hiking quite often), only the interface needed some getting used to.
Also, the maps are quite expensive, and well, having to buy garmin Xt for the phone, MapSource for the pc (to transfer maps) and the maps themselves can add up to a lot
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I have always thought of Garmin as Car Navigation program, but this comes a a surprise (two applications in one!). Unfortunately, it does not allow for online map downloading...

Free turn-by-turn voice guided navigation for Windows 6.x phones, by Bing Map

My first thread. Hope it's not a report. Credit SD
Free turn-by-turn voice guided navigation for Windows 6.x phones, powered by Bing Maps, for owners with a Windows phones on Sprint, T-Mobile, or AT&T. Bing will calculate your route, and guide you as you drive. You can select the fastest or shortest route, choose to avoid traffic and/or tolls, get a map or a list of directions, and see arrows and hear alerts to know which way to turn next. The navigation feature is compatible with the phones below:
•HTC Fuze
•HTC Pure
•HTC HD2
•HTC Tilt 2
•HTC Touch Diamond 2
•HTC Touch HD
•HTC Touch Pro
•HTC Touch Pro 2
•Motorola Q9c
•Samsung Jack
•Samsung Omnia II
•Samsung Propel
•T-Mobile Dash 3G
How to install it (your phone should have data plan in order to use it):
1.On your phone, open your web browser and go to m.bing.com
2.Click on "Download Bing App" to download and install the app (or download directly fromhttp://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx to install manually)
3.After installing the app, go to Start menu and click on "Bing"
4.Select "Direction"
5.Enter addresses and select "Navigate"

This is an update to the previous Bing cab. It auto updates if you run the old one. Looks like a good update. Similar to Google Maps. Looks like a good update.

I was never really a user of Bing, until yesterday. I never really liked the interface and the usibility of MS apps, they tend to be very utilitarian and clunky. Sort of like 80% apps, they are almost good, but not quite.
That is until I tried this new version of Bing. I don't know about the rest of it, but the maps and the navigation is 100%. Sure its not TomTom or iGo, and you need a data connection (so no wandering the back roads of montana) but it is an excellent FREE altinative especially for city driving.
It loads fast, it looks good, it READS THE STREET NAMES, and it will get you there. So if you are off in an area you are not familliar with, and you are looking for an address, this program will certainly get you there.
You don't have to have nearly 1GB of SD card space taken by maps either. For the power traveler who is always on the go and always navigating, then this may not be for you. But for the other 90% of us, who have to go to Aunt Sally's house, and you have not been there in 20 years... this will do the job, and do it well.
It also pulls addresses from your contacts, it allows you to do voice search and then it will navigate you to the location of your choice. Also, traffic data is on by default (I think, but its there either way). The routing options are a little limited, but they include shortest, fastest, no tolls and account for traffic delays in calculating route (interesting option I have not had the chance to try).

i have the tmo tp2 with energy rom on it and i can't get it to work it is installed and the gps map works but nothing else does??? it says " sorry, we can't complete your search. please check your connection and try again." but i have 3g running and two to three signal bars. what the problem what wrong????

I have the same phone and am running the latest NRG ROM with Cookie (see signature). The update worked in my ROM as does the latest version of Bing... You might try updating to the same version I'm running or reflashing and reapplying the update...
If you want a good, free, turn by turn nav solution the pain of reflashing is worth it I think

nice, i will try this app, never used bing before...

I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...

I'm gonna have to disagree with you. It can and has replaced TomTom for me. I ran TT7 on my old Tilt for a long time. The bing search is much more powerful and better than TT. TT does some things well but Bing is more well rounded. Plus there's no way I'm shelling out the cash for TT maps when this is free. The voice guidance leaps it in front of WM Google Maps as well. It's probably only just gonna get better as well. It's pretty good right now though.

Aaron McCarthy said:
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options. If you read my mini review I mentioned that it would be good for light around town navigating. For example, I was traveling a few weeks ago, and I was really craving something other than McDonalds to eat. I decide on Chipoltle, but since they are not as common as McD I needed to search for them. I first loaded google maps and did a search. Found one a few miles away. Due to the confusing roads, and the heavy traffic, I wanted voice navigation rather than just following a line on the screen. So I had to write the address down on a piece of paper, then loaded iGo and keyed the address in and let it guide me to my dinner.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the additional possibility to direct you based on traffic volumes (I was in suburban Washington DC, that feature could have been HUGE for me).
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar)
My main issue with it... the turn screen comes on over the entire map screen and shows the name of the street you are gonna turn on, and a big arrow indicating the type of turn. It does not seem like it goes away until after the turn. I for one would like the know that info then go back to the map so I can see the route in reference to the other roads around. It has a hide button on the left softkey, but that is kinda annoying to have to do on repeated turns.
edit: All I can say is that my wife's first smart phone, and this easy to use bing software just game me the need to buy a window mount for the phone in her car.

Used it today for the first time. I've been a long time Garmin user and I still like the UI better of garmin but bing gets rid of the lag. It was very accurate where as with garmin I have about a 1 second delay.
Wish garmin would release a newer version fixing the lag issue. overall though I was very impressed with the capability of the free bing app.

Aaron McCarthy said:
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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boufa said:
Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar).
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I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!

Aaron McCarthy said:
I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!
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Despite my snotty response, I would be thrilled to see Google Navigator come to the WM platform. I like the fact that Google and Microsoft are taking shots at each other in this "maps war" Ultimatly WE all win. If I am not navigating I like google maps. I keep it on and use it just for seeing where I am at the moment and to see traffic. I like the visual look of the google maps better and the road construction information is great too. But the navigating is a whole ton better on the new Bing.
I really want to like Waze. I really tuely do. I like the idea of driving down streets that I can see that no one else has gone down. I like adjusting my route to get one of the prize locations. However, the stability of the program is very poor. I get crashes once in every 2 or 3 uses.
From what I have seen Google Navigator takes the voice navigation and puts it onto the google maps, and for me that would be the perfect solution... IF it lives up to the promise.

Bing is a great step in the right direction. Sure there are features that are missing now BUT the improvement is a night and day difference. Can't wait to get other features (gas prices, etc). Also, an off-line mode would be amazing. Giving users the ability to download map information in advance for those rural trips (we are heading to North Idaho next month) would be a great option. 99% of the time I have a data connection but when I don't ... that's probably the time I need GPS the most

jrey said:
My first thread. Hope it's not a report. Credit SD
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thanks for posting. people here are generally nice. no need to worry about sucking up to the douchebags at sd...