Battery taking longer to charge in jf1.5? - G1 General

Hi guys, I recently decided to root my g1 with JF1.5 and I'm loving it so far. I did notice that it takes alot longer to charge the battery though. Is anyone else having this minor problem, and is there a fix?
thanks in advance for any imput

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I'm having the same trouble, and for whatever reason once it gets up to 95% it gets to 100% in under a minute, whereas as long as it took to charge it should be another 10 - 20 minutes. I'm not really worried about it though. Makes me think I have a really long battery life!

I'm not too worried either, as I have a car charger, but one of the things I admired about the G1 was how blazing fast it took to fully charge, and I miss it, is all.

B3astofthe3ast said:
I'm not too worried either, as I have a car charger, but one of the thing I admired about the G1 was how blazing fast it took to fully charge, and I miss it, is all.
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and how blazing fast it took to drain completely.

Once you have it fully charged, let it fully run down once (i.e. until the phone turns itself off). This should allow your phone to relearn the battery's limits. Note that I do not recommend doing this much, as it may decrease your battery's life.

this topic's been covered on 2 other threads ive seen. However, i dont think anyone's come up w/ a solution yet, or a cause. I don't mind it so much since my phone will still last a little over a day w/ mild use before i would need to recharge it.
letting it run down completely and charging it fully doesn't fix it. neither does taking out the battery for a bit and putting it back.

I noticed that it took longer to recharge, but im not worried about it.

I noticed that if i reboot the phone while its charging the percentage raises dramatically, so if i am in need of recharging i normally hit a 3 finger salute while its charging.

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New MDA, Best way to start my battery charging?

Hi,
I am getting a MDA and i want to get the ultimate battery life out of it. So it should be arriving soon, and i want to know how to start getting the most out of it. I have looked on the board at the horror stories of batteries lasting not so long. I have experienced that as well.
This is a replacement unit for a USED MDA that i bought. So i have no idea how the previous owner charged it. But i get only about a 24hrs out of it with hardly any use on it besides a few calls.
I will not open the unit till i get a few replies on the initial charge and charging thereof.
Please post your battery life and how you charged and continue to charge the battery and phone now.
I plug my phone into the wall.
It's a good idea to charge the battery completely before using the device, then do not charge it again until it dies. Run at least several cycles like this - this helps the battery last longer in the future.
seugene said:
It's a good idea to charge the battery completely before using the device, then do not charge it again until it dies. Run at least several cycles like this - this helps the battery last longer in the future.
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Ya, after searching through the threads i get mixed opinions. Some say do that. Others say keep it tipped off. I am in half a mind.
pda battery is a bit different from phone battery.
while new phone battery need to charge at least 10hrs in order to achieve max performance, is it different with pda battery.
you dont have to charge that long before you use it. just make sure it is fully charge and when you are not using ur wizard, just plug in to ur usb cable. the more you charge it the longer it will last.
I wouldnt worry too much, replacement batteries can be obtained from Ebay for about 14 quid.
I basically have mine connected to my PC all day so it never really gets very low apart from at the weekend when I'm not at work but the charge will usually last the weekend unless I do a lot of wireless surfing.
i fully charge mine every few days. i seem to get a decent battery life off of it with moderate use (about 60 mins worth of phone calls a day, texting, mp3 player for 20 mins a day, gprs/wifi for about 10 mins a day) i have quite a few programs on it that would drain the battery moreso, but at the end of the day ive usually got about 60% battery left. my phone is only 3 months old mind.
if i forget to charge it, and whilst in the office, a simple case of plugging it into the pc keeps it topped up

Stop charging battery to 100%!!

Hey try this out..this is going to sound weird but stick with me.
Im on rooted OTA stock running netarchy's 4.2 kernel. The battery life is the bees knees while the phone is idle, but while the phone was on it was sucking (that's to be expected right?)
But then I started charging up my phone recently from 57%, so I get to 92% so i can send a text (my chord is effed up, so i cant just pick it up and send it while its charging or else it will short out) and I noticed that the whole time im typing im still on 92%. Big whoop most of y'all are thinking, but this text was 11 texts...
I think unless we are using a wall charger, we should stop charging our batteries to 100%..I say this because there is something wonky going on when we do charge to "100%." I lost 8% in 20mins from 100% while my phone was idle on this kernel, yet whenever I half-ass charge it, i can hold it like there's no tomorrow.
So i propose that if your phone is 50% at night, charge it until you reach about 85% before sleeping; then in the morning plug it back up to the charger and make sure you dont hit 100% or anything close, try to get it to 95% then start your day. I think this will give some killer battery life.
Just a thought.
I charge my phone up to 97%. gives me almost 15 hrs. of use.
It all depends on how long it's on the charger after it hits the 100% mark. Basically, as long as it's on the charger, it will hit 100% and then the display will stay there. However, the charger actually charges to 100%, then waits until it falls back down to 90%, then starts charging again ad infinitum. So if it's been on the charger awhile after hitting 100%, it may very well be closer to 90% in reality.
Noxious Ninja said:
It all depends on how long it's on the charger after it hits the 100% mark. Basically, as long as it's on the charger, it will hit 100% and then the display will stay there. However, the charger actually charges to 100%, then waits until it falls back down to 90%, then starts charging again ad infinitum. So if it's been on the charger awhile after hitting 100%, it may very well be closer to 90% in reality.
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I know that and understand it, but I don't understand why other people know this and still complain about losing the 10% in the first 10 minutes when they can easily stop it.
Oh well, kernel .35 that's being worked on toast fixes this apparently.
Sure, it's just that "don't charge to 100%" isn't really a solution, it just prevents you from running into the confusing situation with the battery meter.
i charge to 100 % every time and get 15 - 17 hours per charge with moderate use
Noxious Ninja said:
Sure, it's just that "don't charge to 100%" isn't really a solution, it just prevents you from running into the confusing situation with the battery meter.
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I see what ya sayin, that's true. I just can't bare to see that drop from 100 though since i really do use my phone heavy, it replaces my laptop while at school, so my awake time and uptime are usually within 30 mins of each other (I don't let it take any naps)
I'll just say that this is my own personal solution, since it makes me feel better haha
Some of you guys are putting way too much stock into small movements of the battery meter.
Noxious Ninja said:
Sure, it's just that "don't charge to 100%" isn't really a solution, it just prevents you from running into the confusing situation with the battery meter.
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If you want to objectively test this theory, do three runs:
1. Charge to 100% and remove after ten minutes.
2. Charge to 100% and remove after two hours
3. Charge to 95% and remove.
To make it go faster, run your most intensive applications and time how long it takes to drain. To do this test properly, there needs to be many different trials with a proper control; however, this should serve our purposes well enough. Any takers on doing this? I can't go that long without using my phone for work/school.
jonnythan said:
Some of you guys are putting way too much stock into small movements of the battery meter.
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+1. Everyone has a $500 phone which they paid at least $200 for. You can go on eBay and order two generic 1600mah batteries from China for $10 shipped with an extra wall charges that charges your phone via the USB cable and one of the batteries at the same time. Problem solved.
I know what people are going to start to say: "Those batteries aren't as good as the OEM ones." Well, does it really matter? I've gotten over 12 hours of moderate use on a generic battery and I'm OC'd. Charge the batteries and keep them in your car since your car is going to be where ever you are. It is much more inconvenient to have to have your phone on a charger all the time than it is to swap batteries.
i'm surprised that this is such a well known issue yet nobody has provided a fix for it.
if i'm correct when the phone is off it charges, but not when it's in recovery. so couldn't there be a kernel/software patch that would charge to 99% then put the phone into "recovery mode" so to speak so it would stop charging, essentially never letting it get to 100%?
doing that is beyond me, but with what i've seen done here this seems like a piece of cake for some of our devs?
still dont see why poeple call it a "problem" , its been explained that its not a problem many times
It all depends on how long it's on the charger after it hits the 100% mark. Basically, as long as it's on the charger, it will hit 100% and then the display will stay there. However, the charger actually charges to 100%, then waits until it falls back down to 90%, then starts charging again ad infinitum. So if it's been on the charger awhile after hitting 100%, it may very well be closer to 90% in reality.
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jonnythan said:
Some of you guys are putting way too much stock into small movements of the battery meter.
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Its like the fps, 55fps is good but 60 "feels" so much better so why not go for 60?
And really, this was just a thought. I have 3 batteries, but on days where its raining and I have to catch the bus...I'd rather not have them on me.

Does anyone have any idea what happened to my Desire Z?? (over heating issue?!)

Hi guys,
Does anyone have any idea to this WEIRD issue I've had with my Desire Z?
Basically, my phone was working normally last night. I then put my phone on to charge as normal before I went to bed, and I left it on the bed. About 5-6 hours later (I had to get up early today...) I turned over and touched the back of the phone and woke up shocked, as the back of the phone BURNED me! I got very confused and looked at the phone. It was VERY hot to hold, and it was on 42% battery. I then took the battery out, and it was almost hot enough to burn me. I left the battery out of the phone until I got up properly and tried turning it back on, and it got very hot, very fast.
I figured it could be a problem with the 1800 mAh Mugen battery I was using, so I decided to put my old stock HTC battery in. I got the same problem.
It seems to have got slightly better now, but I can only really use the phone in 5-10 minute bursts now. When the phone has booted up the battery will report around 36 degrees. After 5-10 minutes it sails up to about 50 degrees before I turn it off. The battery also drops off fast between reboots, losing around 10% each time I reboot (however, it doesn't seem to drop that fast when I'm actually using the phone...).
I am rooted and using Cyanogen Mod 7, and I recently flashed to the 151 nightly. I tried flashing to some of the earlier nightlies I still had on the phone, but the issue is exactly the same.
I did have the phone in the bootloader for a while (volume down+trackball), and it didn't seem to overheat. However, when I tried charging the phone with the device off the battery seemed to get VERY hot (way more hot than normal).
Luckily I can still back up anything I need to back up, and I am going to start doing wipes soon (assuming the phone doesn't overheat while wiping, which worries me!), but I am very confused!
I'm thinking that some sort of short circuit has happened, or something?
Does anyone have any ideas? If it's a definite hardware problem I can get a replacement fairly easily, but I do love my Z, so it's the last thing I want to do...
Very lucky my dad has a Samsung Galaxy Tab I can borrow as a phone for now. It will be fun for a day or two having a 7" tablet as a phone, but it will get old fast!
Thanks a lot, all!
Edit: I think it's had it. I tried using another charger and another USB cable and leaving it charge for a bit. When I came back after about 15 mins, again the phone was very hot, and the indicator light was flashing green and orange. When I tried to boot the phone it was dead. When I plugged it back in the indicator light would flash orange on and off for a while, then start blinking weirdly. Lucky my mugen battery still has about 15% charge... xD
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/2710?start=75&tstart=0
It's *possibly* this problem.
My phone does the same thing, gets SUPER hot when charging, and has extremely short battery life.
Mine's not charging at all now, so I'm not even sure what to do at all :/
If I use the phone a lil and my Mugen battery dies, I won't be able to turn it on at all, so I'm not sure whether to start wiping and stuff now...
General consensus is to not leave the phone to charge overnight?
not with today's technology. all batteries (atleast good ones) have an internal circuit that keeps the battery from over charging. it also provides a method to maintain the charge by letting the phone drain some battery over the night by 5-10% then performing a trickle charge to slowly (very slowly) recharge the battery.
I've been leaving my stuff charging overnight for over a decade. It's not as bad as you think it is.

[Q] issues with kit kat

Hey guys...I have updates to kit kat 3 times since it has came out...I have issues right now with my phone that I am not sure if it is due to kitkat or what..
I have HORRIBLE battery life now...Literally lasting like half a day. On MJE it was not like this. Also, for some reason, it is taking FOREVER to charge, and it will not charge if hooked up to a PC very much at all...used to it would charge the phone, now it just keeps it at the same percentage, or drains it further.
I have tried eclipse rom and baja rom and they seem to both have the issue.
Maybe your battery is toasted. Left your phone in a hot car lately? Baking lithium batteries tends to make them slow to charge and fast to die. You could get another battery and try it (don't get a no name aftermarket one unless it's like a Zero Lemon or something respectable).
If it's not the battery then your charging circuit could be going bad. Worse case scenario you get a warranty replacement and have an extra battery.
Another thing to consider is that a laptop or computer will typically only charge the phone at 400-600mA. That will take 6-8 hours to complete. If you recently switched computers it could be outputting less power. Find a wall charger rated at 2000mA and try that. Charge should be complete from 0% to 100% in 2-3 hours max. If it takes much longer than that, you have a dying battery or bad charging circuit.
adoublearonn said:
Maybe your battery is toasted. Left your phone in a hot car lately? Baking lithium batteries tends to make them slow to charge and fast to die. You could get another battery and try it (don't get a no name aftermarket one unless it's like a Zero Lemon or something respectable).
If it's not the battery then your charging circuit could be going bad. Worse case scenario you get a warranty replacement and have an extra battery.
Another thing to consider is that a laptop or computer will typically only charge the phone at 400-600mA. That will take 6-8 hours to complete. If you recently switched computers it could be outputting less power. Find a wall charger rated at 2000mA and try that. Charge should be complete from 0% to 100% in 2-3 hours max. If it takes much longer than that, you have a dying battery or bad charging circuit.
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Thanks for the response!
I actually bought a new battery the other day as I was clueless as to what was causing this issue. It is doing the same thing, which tells me it is either something to do with my phone or the ROM's themselves. I seriously cannot get a day out of my phone with normal use...Used to I would have around 40% left and I was using my phone a heck of a lot more than what I am using it now. My phone will sit plugged into my PC or plugged into the wall at work all day...When I get off at 5...By the time I go to bed at 12-1am I am getting alerts about battery.
It charges up to 100 percent though...This I don't get...I have only tried 2 roms on the NC2 and I have tried this a while back when it first came out with a rom but dont remember which one it was...The phone will randomly start chugging super slow and I will have to reboot it in order to get it do do anything...It will get to the point it takes 10+ seconds to load the power menu when I hold the power button. This has ONLY been an issue with NC2. I have ODIN'd back and upgraded all the way through and still had the same issues multiple times.
I don't understand why this did not do this on MJE but does on NC2. I was running Baja prior to NC2 on MJE without any issues. I am pretty tech savy, I am a network administrator...I have had many Verizon phones, and flashed/rooted several. I am not an expert, but I am fairly confident I am doing everything right...I don't know what I would be missing.
I could do a warranty claim through Verizon...Problem is, they give you remanufactured phones...I want to be dang sure it is an issue with my phone, as this one I got new from Verizon, and not the NC2 build iteself. Would it still be the charging circuit if it charges to 100% still? I have a wireless charger that I use when I am at home, and I just got it not long ago...does that bypass the charging circuit, or does it still use it? This was after I was having issues.

Slow charge, fast drain

So I had this 910C for a while. Still love this phone but recently the stand by time kept decreasing. This was my second battery but I used fast charging, so I thought what the heck, I will just buy a new one.
Well I did, and the stand by time is just as bad. Almost half my battery is gone by the morning, and the battery barely wants to charge as well. (it's like the phone is cold and the charger is also just lukewarm.)
So what the heck?
Is there a known hardware defect on the Note 4 for this?
Even if I could replace the phone (but why when it works great otherwise), I would still like to keep it around as a secondary device.
Any ideas?
Ps.: Now when I was writing this, my phone also got quite hot but the AUKEY portable charger is cold. My percentage was 16-17 and it could not go higher.
Well, after long hours of charge the new battery does show 100%, but when I make a call the phone gets extremely hot. Like it burns my face.
This morning I watched like 5 minutes of Netflix and that ate ~20% of my battery.
The battery does not get hot, is not bulked up, it's very hot around the main chip...
Using latest Samsung OS btw, don't even have root installed atm.

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