[REQ] WM6.5 S2A without locking - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I love the new slide to answer/ignore built into windows mobile 6.5 but do not want to have to lock my phone in order to use it. Can any developers here come up with a way to activate the s2a feature without locking the phone?

DomSim said:
I love the new slide to answer/ignore built into windows mobile 6.5 but do not want to have to lock my phone in order to use it. Can any developers here come up with a way to activate the s2a feature without locking the phone?
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Why not use a opal dialer that comes with a slide to unlock?

i dont want to go back to a rom with manila in it, and the topaz, opal ... tf3d2 etc etc s2a dialers i have tried screws up the call log because it relies on files from manila i believe. unless you can point me in the direction of a black s2a dialer that doesnt screw up the call log?

DomSim said:
I love the new slide to answer/ignore built into windows mobile 6.5 but do not want to have to lock my phone in order to use it. Can any developers here come up with a way to activate the s2a feature without locking the phone?
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Have you tried Smart Lock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032
There is a feature for lock on call etc. I've used it and it does what you are asking, but there is an odd delay before the lock screen comes up. Try it out and let me know what you think.

trying now

Cool. I'm pretty sure it's still beta, but it seems to work. I'm just curious if the issues i'm having are throughout, or just on the ROM that I'm using.

that program seems to still require that it lock the phone to use the s2a. if i only slect the fist option of "wm6.5 new lock" it does nothing. if i select that along with incall lock, it brings up the new slide to answer locks the phone after the call which i do not want.

DomSim said:
that program seems to still require that it lock the phone to use the s2a. if i only slect the fist option of "wm6.5 new lock" it does nothing. if i select that along with incall lock, it brings up the new slide to answer locks the phone after the call which i do not want.
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I guess I mis-read your post. I thought that was what you were looking for.

bump it up

I dont think you going to find it! Unless you can get someone to build a dialer like that!

Got the same problem here ... did you find a solution ?

nope damn it

Hey guys !
Is there a solution now ?
Has someone very nice worked on it ?

Can't you guys just wait for another month or two... the official 6.5 or 6.5.1 or 6.7 whatever it is will most likely have that... I am sure someone can replicate a copy program of it, but then it wont be as smooth... just wait for the official one...
Till then, locking your screen isnt that bad :-/

Another way...but...install phone canvas 3.....
-the phone canvas doesn't conflict with lockscreen since the old phone canvas....and it goes also than the phone is not locked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542145

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PocketShield

I ran across this, not exactly sure where, but it's sick man:
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
It should be perfectly compatible with the HD because it does indeed have an ambient light sensor and obviously an accelerometer.
Check out the videos:
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/demo.aspx
It's pretty damn nice.
I think it will make a great add-on to a beautiful phone, it does cost $10.90, but as far as I can tell it's well worth it.
Give it look!
On the Touch HD you now have to slide to pick up the phone. So I really don't see why we should use this app. It will be handy for the Diamond or Pro.
dickr43 said:
On the Touch HD you now have to slide to pick up the phone. So I really don't see why we should use this app. It will be handy for the Diamond or Pro.
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But what about announcements? Fpr example SMS alert, notification alert etc.. Do you have to slide also to unlock the Device in those cases?
Hi!
I'm still struggeling to find the right way to lock the phone. The ideal solution would be to:
1) Have the phone unlocked when I switch it on with the Power button (so that I can immediately use it after deliberately turning it on)
2) Have the phone automatically locked when it wakes up due to a phone call, SMS or warning, etc. (so that I don't press anything by accident when it is in my pocket).
This seems to be the only really logical way to use device lock. Obviously, PocketShield can not do that, neither can S2Us or any other locking app I've tried...
Regards!
I had it installed, but removed it quite quickly again. For some reason, it did not suit me. I did not see any use of the lightsensor and shaking it to unlock was impossible...
All it added for me was a slide to unlock, for which there are other progs. It also replaceed the default slide to anwser, without enabling it myself...
I am sticking with the default lock or the s2u prog...
dickr43 said:
On the Touch HD you now have to slide to pick up the phone. So I really don't see why we should use this app. It will be handy for the Diamond or Pro.
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As a matter of interest, where in the manual is that documented.
I tried a search but could not find it.
Beards
Try this for locking the Phone correctly.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447198
Version 2.5
A new version 2.5 with lots of improvements is available http://www.pocketshield.net/phorum/read.php?1,1224

Lock System better than S2U2

Hell yeah, S2U2 is cool, because it's as an iPhone, but it's laggy and it cost too much battery even HTC closed...
So, as i appreciate the way to unlock it, i found this program : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/downloads/files/ThrottleLock0.4.CAB
It's more than a simply unlocker, as you can create a pattern which look like a password, but you also can simply define as pattern the 3 downs buttons from left to right, and it's like S2U, without lag (and yeah without the iPhone trademark ) !
Here are some screenshot : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/downloads/34-public-releases/87-throttle-lock-04
Enjoy it
I'd be interested in anyone's opinion on this.
I like S2U2, I don't find it drains my battery too much, I like the extra info it displays about next appointments and tasks etc.
Does this locking system show that kind of information too?
Zepiii said:
Hell yeah, S2U2 is cool, because it's as an iPhone, but it's laggy and it cost too much battery even HTC closed...
So, as i appreciate the way to unlock it, i found this program : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/downloads/files/ThrottleLock0.4.CAB
It's more than a simply unlocker, as you can create a pattern which look like a password, but you also can simply define as pattern the 3 downs buttons from left to right, and it's like S2U, without lag (and yeah without the iPhone trademark ) !
Here are some screenshot : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/downloads/34-public-releases/87-throttle-lock-04
Enjoy it
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Tried it,very nice and cool looking, but unfortunately it wil unlock itself by an incoming call.
Ha ha, doesn't that make it kinda pointless? Many of us will want a lock so that when a call comes in, it doesn't accidentally unlock...
Does a text message unlock it to? Does turning it on unlock it?
I only use S2A2 for the Full Screen caller Option and Trotllelock for a manual devicelock (added to my start up list).
@AndyCr15 : luckyuser means that sometimes Trotllelock unlock itself (Bug). Normally you must wipe with your finger from up to bottom to answer a call. I'll use only the device lock option. Not the answer unlock option. So i'll have the best options from both apps.
AndyCr15 said:
Ha ha, doesn't that make it kinda pointless? Many of us will want a lock so that when a call comes in, it doesn't accidentally unlock...
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Yean it's unlock when a call, but HTC got the protection as you have to put your finger on the virutal block and move it to the left to answer and move to the right to ignore... so it's not a problem, it's an advantage that it's unlocked automatically...
AndyCr15 said:
Does a text message unlock it to?
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ofc not, but it is signaled by an icone
Zepiii said:
Yean it's unlock when a call, but HTC got the protection as you have to put your finger on the virutal block and move it to the left to answer and move to the right to ignore... so it's not a problem, it's an advantage that it's unlocked automatically...
ofc not, but it is signaled by an icone
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Sorry,, But you forget the hardware buttons they are not locked.. so you can accidentaly push any of the hardware buttons...
iosub said:
Sorry,, But you forget the hardware buttons they are not locked.. so you can accidentaly push any of the hardware buttons...
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The only programm who can fix that problem to is PocketShield.
Tried this app also, but I had to often gesture problems by shaking the phone! The device didn't react and awake properly for normal use!
i lock my phone by pressing and holding the "down reciever" icon. I thought that i could do that and this app would activate but it doesnt.
It's simple, S2U 1.37 corrects the advantage that thortlelock had... let's go back to S2U2 1.37
See you
luckyuser said:
The only programm who can fix that problem to is PocketShield.
Tried this app also, but I had to often gesture problems by shaking the phone! The device didn't react and awake properly for normal use!
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I use it too. Shaking does not work that good, so I only use it with finger slide. Works really good. The application is not free though, but €7 is not that much for lifetime upgrades and a lock application that does what it promises
Let's be clear, the application does not unlock itself; it merely (like S2U2) allows you to answer or ignore the call. After the call is completed the phone remains locked.
I have used both and chose throttlelock over S2U2 because of the lack of battery drain, the fact that I can mute an incoming call and that the security on throttlelock is (mildly) better than on S2U2. The other thing to mention is that there are options within throttlelock to disable the 'hard keys' if you choose.
Personally, I will continue to use throttlelock (or an alternative like Pocketshield when it becomes fully HD compatible) until some of the issues with S2U2 are fixed. These are still apparent in the latest ver 1.37.
Just my opinion
Mav.
Pocket shield is the best. I love it's option to auto-unlock with light sensor, and in the dark I just slide my finger on the screen It's also great that it can disable the hardware buttons when locked so no more problem with incidental pressing them while taking the phone out of my pocket I am very happy with this program, esspecially since it has no battery-drain issue like s2u2. The only thing that bothers me is why the h*... htc did'nt implement something like that in TF3d?! ...that, and group sms solution... and a few other things... sorry for the of topic in the end,
Mavrick said:
(or an alternative like Pocketshield when it becomes fully HD compatible)
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What is not fully compatible with the HD? if you mean the background customization, that is already fixed.
david-v said:
What is not fully compatible with the HD? if you mean the background customization, that is already fixed.
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My bad.
It wasn't the last time I checked. I'll take a look asap.
Thanks.
Mav.
kamilyo said:
esspecially since it has no battery-drain issue like s2u2.
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NEW version of S2U2 (1.40) avaliable now, has potential fix for battery-drain issue!
What do you do when you forget your code?
EDIT: Nevermindt
kamilyo said:
The only thing that bothers me is why the h*... htc did'nt implement something like that in TF3d?! ...that, and group sms solution... and a few other things... sorry for the of topic in the end,
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If you don't mind paying, use PowerSMS from Trinket Software to do your group SMS'ing - see http://www.trinketsoftware.com/powersms for details
aussiebum said:
NEW version of S2U2 (1.40) avaliable now, has potential fix for battery-drain issue!
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We'll see....I used to use S2U2 on my Kaiser but haven't bothered putting on for the last couple of months due to excessive ROM flashing - on my Touch PRO, I found that "TouchLockPro" was a brilliant alternative to S2U2 as it allows you to take advantage of the capacitive touch functionality on the Touch Pro. Have a read here for all the details.
Just my $0.02
Mark.

WM6.5 Force Default Slide to Answer?

Is there a simple way to force the default "Slide to Answer" interface even when the phone is not locked (In WM6.5)?
I have not had much luck with searches regarding this concept here or on ppcgeeks.
Thanks,
Chris
hmmm.... you mean besides pressing the green key?
:S
I think he wants the new slide to answer screen that comes up when the screen is locked in wm6.5.
This could be very cool...any ideas?
WM6.5 always slide-to-answer
If you don't use WM6.5 lock-screen it'll take a while to start when a call comes, that's why I prefer S2U2 (besides the Tachi dialer).
Kamill said:
WM6.5 always slide-to-answer
If you don't use WM6.5 lock-screen it'll take a while to start when a call comes, that's why I prefer S2U2 (besides the Tachi dialer).
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thank you very much
Kamill said:
WM6.5 always slide-to-answer
If you don't use WM6.5 lock-screen it'll take a while to start when a call comes, that's why I prefer S2U2 (besides the Tachi dialer).
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Yes the first time the built in lock screen is brought up since boot it will take a few secs. After that it is fast. Another was is smart lock:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/06...-of-your-default-windows-mobile-6-5-lock.html
Set it to lock on incoming call. Also, it would be a good idea to make it lock at boot so that the delay from the first time lock is gone after. Set it to lock on out call and call connected also and you get a very cool in call screen.
Does this work in conjunction with HTC Phonecanvas? or is it incompatable? Because I thought there was an issue with the Lockscreen and Phonecanvas.

How to lock Ans/End key

Usually when a call comes and the phone is inside the pouch (good for protection), there are several ways of messing up by accepting or rejecting the call even b4 its completely out of the pouch as blelow:
On screen:
1) U can press the on screen message but which will send an auto sms to the caller and end the call
2) U can press the answer key
3) U can press the ignore key
Off screen (hardware)
4) U press the answer key
5) U can press the end key
Incredibly, all 5 options are simultaneously active. The screen can be locked by S2U2 etc. but I cannot find any option of locking the hardware keys.
Any help will be appreciated
Firstly thanks for Omnia i8000 support on XDA..
Now I feel secure..
Secondly even I'll lyk to disable my hardware keys for call ans/end..
is there a registry tweak or something we can do to disable it..
s2u2 has that option... go settings/phone and u have S2A Hard ans/end key...
Search 542482 - there's an app for that over in the Mobile Apps & Games forum
Solution found!!!!
The issue was really troubling me and I finally found a solution. Install a small program called Incall lock which locks the call & end key. But that will totally disable u from accepting calls under WM6.1. So install s2u2 and enable screen response and voila!! U have. Both these are available elsewhere in this lovely forum.
Note:- The whole process during inplementation is quite messy as u will first have to install .net compact & samsung SDK software (both freely available).
4 software to do a simple thing which should have been taken care of by the OS. That's life under our billy, the goat.
Hope this help. I would be glad to give something back to this site, i have greatly benefited from.
TouchLockPro works great.
(I can't post a link yet...search for it in the Omnia 2 section at Modaco).
ad720 said:
TouchLockPro works great.
(I can't post a link yet...search for it in the Omnia 2 section at Modaco).
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I tried tpro but it did not work for me. I am using wm6.1 under samsung touchwiz. Cud it b because of that ?
TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
captkkk said:
TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
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See, even if no software was there u wud have to press a key or tap something to answer anyway. With S2U2 and incall lock, the only point of access is the slider (in my case) with which i can either accept or reject calls. So if i swipe to ans, the lock opens and i can straight away start talking. So there really is no extra step involved. Whereas, if I do not lock the key, I will have to be careful not to press the keys accidentally which is difficult as I often put it in my pocket and more so inside the pouch. I think the swipe to answer is the killer option.
bimboybimboy said:
See, even if no software was there u wud have to press a key or tap something to answer anyway. With S2U2 and incall lock, the only point of access is the slider (in my case) with which i can either accept or reject calls. So if i swipe to ans, the lock opens and i can straight away start talking. So there really is no extra step involved. Whereas, if I do not lock the key, I will have to be careful not to press the keys accidentally which is difficult as I often put it in my pocket and more so inside the pouch. I think the swipe to answer is the killer option.
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Slide to Answer is great option to traditional Click to Answer, that is very true, however, that option has been adopted in 6.5 and some 3rd parties phone app as well, so if in i8000 case, the phone interface can be omitted and use the 6.5 or simply use those better and more feature phone apps
captkkk said:
Slide to Answer is great option to traditional Click to Answer, that is very true, however, that option has been adopted in 6.5 and some 3rd parties phone app as well, so if in i8000 case, the phone interface can be omitted and use the 6.5 or simply use those better and more feature phone apps
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Well, as I said I hv 6.1 & 6.5 not yet available in my country. so...
Hi,
I installed Throttle Lock.. Nice lock... it has slide to answer..
secondly it does not interfere with the touch player, lyk s2u2 does..
Are you using Omnia II with WM6.1 ?
Because throttle lock is not saving the settings on my phone. And yes, I am clicking the "ok" button at the top right and getting a message "changes saved". And my slide to answer is ON but no slide is displayed. All I can see is the default lock screen which opens when I click on a button on screen but that certainly does not solve my problem. Using ver .07 (latest).
I have even registered myself. Hell, the config.xml file shows Calllock is on but its not even locking when the call comes. That should be the very basic default function. Sorry, back to s2u2.
I am using WinMo 6.1 original Rom...
I installed it on Storage memory.. and its workign fine.. It does interfere with the Samsund dialer when the call comes in... but I will try disabling the samsung dialer and check... back to your issue.. Try re-installing it.. and it should work.. iam able to save all my settings..
And when the call comes in My hardware keys are lock as well and I get option to Slide to Answer or reject..
Aafi-rocks said:
I am using WinMo 6.1 original Rom...
I installed it on Storage memory.. and its workign fine.. It does interfere with the Samsund dialer when the call comes in... but I will try disabling the samsung dialer and check... back to your issue.. Try re-installing it.. and it should work.. iam able to save all my settings..
And when the call comes in My hardware keys are lock as well and I get option to Slide to Answer or reject..
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Thanks. I unistalled S2u2 and installed again. Still no. Yet the program was working when I clicked on it. So, luckily having some working knowledge of windows, I found that the program is not putting a link in the start menu or start up folder. This I had to do manually. But thats unclean.
And what happens when a call comes is funny. There is a brief fight between the throttle default , the windows splash & the lock screen itself. Luckily, the lock screen is winning every time. But again unclean or is it the links I have placed.
Currenly, I have links to both thottlelock & throttlelockdemon in the startup & lockdemon in the start menu. How is it with u?
Also in the setting under samsung default setup, the options like lock mode & incoming are white on white. What are your current settings ?
Think this program was designed for HTC. But is definitly smaller and though not neat...working. Thanks
I have mapped it to a hardware key, so when I want to lock I press the hardware key..
Aafi-rocks said:
I have mapped it to a hardware key, so when I want to lock I press the hardware key..
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Use incall lock for locking the keys when call comes. Works perfectly.
Tried the throttlelock for 2 days. Sometimes, the default wm screen was coming up and the look is messy. So more experiements......but till date s2u2+incall lock looks the cleanest. Will keep looking...
captkkk said:
TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
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I'm using TouchLockPro. It's much faster and less memory consuming than S2U2 and it has multiple ways to unlock your phone!
In the newest version, you can unlock your phone by using the proximity sensor (and our Omnia II has one )
So if your phone wakes up in your pocket our pouch, it won't unlock, but if it wakes up in your hand or on your desk, it will unlock immediately!
Consequently, if you have an incoming call and the phone is in your pocket: It will remain locked until it's out of your pocket so you don't have to manually unlock before answering
I love it!
maardiweb said:
I'm using TouchLockPro. It's much faster and less memory consuming than S2U2 and it has multiple ways to unlock your phone!
In the newest version, you can unlock your phone by using the proximity sensor (and our Omnia II has one )
So if your phone wakes up in your pocket our pouch, it won't unlock, but if it wakes up in your hand or on your desk, it will unlock immediately!
Consequently, if you have an incoming call and the phone is in your pocket: It will remain locked until it's out of your pocket so you don't have to manually unlock before answering
I love it!
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I hv omnia 2 with wm6.1. Tried touchlockpro and was absolutely useless. How is it possible ?
Can u plz put in the download link.. Iam sure its somewhere on XDA itself, but I am kinda lazy to search today.... I'll download it once I reach home..

Transparent screen lock

Not sure this is in the right forum since it's really a general WM question, but anyway...
I want to be able to view my today screen since it contains all my appointments etc even when the screen is locked.
I guess a transparent screen lock would solve the problem, but I havent found one yet.
Is there one?
Another solution would be something that kept the screen locked until I press the power button. Then it would be easy to unlock but still locked when it's not in use so I dont make calls etc without knowing it.
try s2u2 http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/s2u2-new-version-v2-30/ it will show your information on the lock screen
Martin25 said:
try s2u2 http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/s2u2-new-version-v2-30/ it will show your information on the lock screen
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That's not good enough. I have everything specified just as I want it in my today screen and to find a custom lock screen that matches that is impossible to find. A transparent lock screen or a lock screen that gets unlocked automatically when I press the power button would solve it perfectly.
use the old (standart)lockscreen. like wm6.1
it is your homescreen with a unlock softbutton.
(i use wm6.1 and now i don't know why everybody is needing blown up lockscreens, when the old one was best )
aber82 said:
use the old (standart)lockscreen. like wm6.1
it is your homescreen with a unlock softbutton.
(i use wm6.1 and now i don't know why everybody is needing blown up lockscreens, when the old one was best )
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How do I get the old style? If I show the lock object on the today screen it will still show the new 6.5 lock screen when I lock the phone.
i do not know how to get it back , but i know that it is possible.
i hope someone can show you the way.
aber82 said:
i do not know how to get it back , but i know that it is possible.
i hope someone can show you the way.
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Found it: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=293605&view=findpost&p=1207481
Seems to work, thanks. Still interested in other soultions, but this will probably be fine otherwise.
or install Cookie Home Tab
it has customizable lockscreens, emphasis on multiple kinds of locks.
each has the ability to move the parts around like CHT always does. and you can make it fit your every need !
gmanfuzing said:
or install Cookie Home Tab
it has customizable lockscreens, emphasis on multiple kinds of locks.
each has the ability to move the parts around like CHT always does. and you can make it fit your every need !
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Does that requier HTC Sense? I'm using a clean rom without any HTC software, since I want to use the old today screen. This is very important since I use TodayAgenda.

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