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how to get gps on wing like dash ?

I find it funny that the dash is able to get the gps working on google maps and when it comes to the wing (MUMZZZ)the word.!
can someone help me if there is a logical answer and solution to my dilemma ...........

this is wrong in sooooooooo many ways. first, neither the dash (HTC excalibur) nor the wing (HTC Herald/Atlas) have built-in GPS.
Google maps uses data, does it not? So theoretically, anywhere you have a data connection, you can use google maps.
If by gps you mean an external gps, it's only a matter of tethering your gps to your phone, which is relatively self-explanatory

ok
so how is the dash able to track location on google maps also searches for gps and is successful . unless a buddy of mine has a special dash ..

i believe google just implemented a new service that uses cellphone tower triangulation to determine an approximate location. does it show your friends location as a dot or a dot over a larger, lighter colored dot?

I was going to post this yesterday, but didnt get a chance to..
GPS on the wing is NOT possible, UNLESS using a gps device.
THOUGH, google maps (the newest version) has a way of attempting to find your location without GPS. It uses cell phone towers to triangulate your posistion. This is not as accurate as GPS though, it can be anywhere dead on your posistion, or it could be 1500 meters off. it just depends on the amount of cell coverage in the area.

i dont know
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this

rosco32 said:
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this
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ofcourse you can "implement a gps program" just connect teh wing to a gps-mouse und use one of these:
- tomtom
- mn
- navigator
- destinator
- route66

rosco32 said:
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this
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Did you hit 0 (zero) ?

GPS
fzzyrn said:
this is wrong in sooooooooo many ways. first, neither the dash (HTC excalibur) nor the wing (HTC Herald/Atlas) have built-in GPS.
Google maps uses data, does it not? So theoretically, anywhere you have a data connection, you can use google maps.
If by gps you mean an external gps, it's only a matter of tethering your gps to your phone, which is relatively self-explanatory
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I got a question for you may be stupid but hey gotta start somewhere... I hae a Garmin and wanted to know how to "tether" my garmin to my wing for Gmaps? Can you help me out?

GPS

Hey guys, can someone confirm that when using the GPS function it does or does not use data plan? I know some phones such as the iPhone and Blackberry uses data for GPS, and I know the Touch HD is not required as it has the GPS receiver in the device. If someone can confirm this that would be appreciated.
Thanks

Hi!
No the phone has built in GPS Receiver

Awesome, I'm glad that they don't use data for the GPS function, that would be such a killer on data. Thanks for clarifying.

A GPS by definition must not use data. There are other methods of determining location besides GPS, but they are definitely not called GPS. Note that your device, though equipped with a GPS can ALSO use the cell network for finding its location.

So in the case of the iPhone 3g, what would you call that? My dad uses his "GPS" quite a bit but of course uses the data to download the maps. I'm assuming that the HTC Magic has the maps downloaded on the phone already therefore not needing data. Also when the cellphone uses the cell network to triangulate your position, that is not using data correct? I appreciate all the responses and clarification.
Thanks!

I have no knowledge or interest in apple junk.
However, you seem to be confusing the GPS with *what you do with* the data from the GPS. In your example, to me it sounds like it probably has a normal GPS that does NOT use data. GPS does NOT provide maps, pictures, or anything of the sort. GPS provides locational information by comparing the signals from several satellites to generate information like latitude, longitude, altitude, and bearing. This is all a bunch of numbers that the typical user won't be able to make much use of, so along with the GPS itself, you have some program that *does something* with the data. If you use google maps, then your phone will pull appropriate information from google's servers based on the information retrieved from the GPS. Another program that you could use, for example, is "gps status" (available on the market, use "gps status 2" for android 1.5 equipped devices), this will display the GPS information (and accelerometer) withOUT the maps/pictures/etc., and thus will NOT use any data from your data plan.
Regarding the cell tower location method... it doesn't use any data plan data, however, that does not mean that it is free.... check with your provider for specifics. Generally, cell tower location is crude whereas GPS is fine.
Does that help to clarify things?

Yes it does, thanks for your reply.

Other questions... CAn I use GPS software without Internet connection? Or I need all time internet to magic downlaod maps and info? It is any program Tomtom style for android? Thanks.

if someone has, or does release an application that contains its own map tiles, it will be entirely free to use, but will probably cost a fair amount to buy (the map tiles don't come cheap to the developers). Also I would expect such an app to be fairly large, and (if it does even fit) would eat up most or all of the 512 MB you can store your software in.
thinking about it, they could always give you an sd card with the maps and only have a fairly small app in the phone memory. although that's another matter
As long as an app uses google maps (or other online map resources), it will cost you data to use it.

Do you have to have data plan for GPS?

I have T-Mobile USA. Can I use the GPS without a data plan?

What is meant by data plan ?

azahidi said:
What is meant by data plan ?
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Internet Plan
I only have a plan with minutes and no internet.

DanRo80 said:
Internet Plan
I only have a plan with minutes and no internet.
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Some GPS applications, e.g. Garmin mobile and many freeware GPS apps, do not require internet connection. Google maps mobile requires internet connection, of course.

azahidi said:
Some GPS applications, e.g. Garmin mobile and many freeware GPS apps, do not require internet connection. Google maps mobile requires internet connection, of course.
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And you are not able to use QuickGPS for faster detection of the satellites.
But I do not know if this is necessary/useful for these programs.

MvBoe said:
And you are not able to use QuickGPS for faster detection of the satellites.
But I do not know if this is necessary/useful for these programs.
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True that QuickGPS is supposed to assist in faster GPS detection. However I am not sure how much faster, I mean by how many seconds faster (no empirical measure). From my experience, satellite detection without QuickGPS updated for a few weeks, is still quite fast, a few ten seconds - but still dependant on the sky/cloud condition. I am talking from where I live - equatorial. I am not sure about north of the tropics (Europe and N.America)

A definite no!
You do not need a data plan to use the GPS! Depending on which cellular company you go with, some of their people will try to tell or sell you on a plan. You do not need it.
For WM 5 and above, it is recommended that you let WM manage your GPS for all programs. To do this go to the System Settings tab and select the External GPS app (why it is called external is beyond me). Then move through the tabs to configure the GPS. Ideally, use a port that is not in use. I typically use 9. Then click the box to have WM manage the GPS for all programs that need data from it.
Now, you just need software and there is plenty of free programs out. One utility I recommend is GPS Toggle (http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-toggle.html ). This small Today screen plug-in will turn on the Jade GPS to quote warm it up for you. If the GPS has not been turned on in awhile, it can take up to 10 minutes or longer to have it lock onto four satellites which is what is considered necessary for satellite navigation (satnav). During this period, the satellites will use your time signal as one of the primary pieces of info to sync your GPS. Then based upon the positon of the satellites, they will identify your location. Once they have downloaded enough data to the GPS and are in sync, your GPS will become satnav capable.
Another app you might to look at is GPSToday (http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gpstoday-v0-9.html#). I recommend setting this app as separate one and not a Today screen plug-in but that is your choice after reviewing what it is capable of doing. I love that it can geotag pictures taken by Jade which basically takes quote dumb or pictures that do not have typical computer info written into them. You can even use it to mark where you parked your car (at a stadium or large event), store the coordinates and have it navigate back to your car. Another good use is for geocaching.
These are just two small apps. What you really want now is iGO8 (highly recommended), TomTom or another commercial software program.
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Everywhere I look it seems that iGO8 is only for iPhone, but people say they are using it. I am also in the United States.

DanRo80 said:
Everywhere I look it seems that iGO8 is only for iPhone, but people say they are using it. I am also in the United States.
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If you look here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472110&highlight=gps+software), it might give you an idea. iGo8 has been used on Jade.

azahidi said:
If you look here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472110&highlight=gps+software), it might give you an idea. iGo8 has been used on Jade.
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Yeah, I was in there. It's just that the website said that it was for the iPhone and it looked like it was for Europe only. Nevermind, I am just dopey. I see that it is also for America and Canada.

gps with t-mobile usa

I've read that the HD2 has the new snapdragon chip which has built-in GPS. i have the t-mobile usa version. i'm having problems figuring out how to get my gps software to recognize the gps radio. maybe i'm just missing a setting (i hope). is the gps radio even available in the t-mo usa rom or do i need another rom? if i do need another rom, any suggestions?....or pointers in the right direction.
thanks
tom
no data plan
ps - iguidance support is as clueless as i am.

i forgot to mention...
ROM version: 2.10.531.1
Radio version: 2.08.50.08_2
- tom
HTC HD2 USA
Iguidance (gps software)

I think the manual settings are com4, 4800 baud for the gps.
I tried manually setting it in google maps and it worked on Friday.

isn't google maps a web based gps? i trying to get the gps to work without a data (or internet connection). also, i have gone through every setting in settings and still cannot find where to set the com or baud nor do i see even any mention of gps.
- tom

tomX2 said:
isn't google maps a web based gps? i trying to get the gps to work without a data (or internet connection). also, i have gone through every setting in settings and still cannot find where to set the com or baud nor do i see even any mention of gps.
- tom
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google maps does require data connection. I was just mentioning it since I can change the gps settings there. I vaguely remember that those settings work, so you can try it in your gps program if it doesn't detect automatically.

I used Telenav on my TMOUS HD2 5 minutes after I got my phone and it worked fine without changing any of the settings. I have a dataplan on my phone though.
Is the AGPS service on your phone on? Try turning it off.
Its in settings>Location>AGPS Service.

i have agps off. i am under the impression that agps uses data (i have no data plan) and of course, do not want to use data. according to wikipedia: "A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for A-GPS information". i'm going to call t-mo usa on this.
i can get the software to find my location (using agps) but this phone has a stand-a-lone gps radio and it should work without any assistance from anything other than the satellites. my tytnII did. my feeling is that it's my phone, it's my software why should i pay someone to use it? especially when it was designed to work independently, until the phone companies figured out a way to charge for it. in addition, when i'm trekking and there is no tower, the very reason gps was invented is rendered useless.
anyone have any experience with setting up their hd2 with gps (not agps), using any of the standard softwares? i.e. tom tom, iguidance, etc. i pretty sure this is possible, but hard to find information on.
thanks
tom
HTC HD2
iguidance
gps tuner

fyi - i have found out that (through several unhelpful contacts with the manufacturer as well as posts here and elsewhere) iguidance gps does not work with the hd2 (usa)....and the company provides no assistance in this matter.
- tom

tomX2 said:
i have agps off. i am under the impression that agps uses data (i have no data plan) and of course, do not want to use data. according to wikipedia: "A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for A-GPS information". i'm going to call t-mo usa on this.
i can get the software to find my location (using agps) but this phone has a stand-a-lone gps radio and it should work without any assistance from anything other than the satellites. my tytnII did. my feeling is that it's my phone, it's my software why should i pay someone to use it? especially when it was designed to work independently, until the phone companies figured out a way to charge for it. in addition, when i'm trekking and there is no tower, the very reason gps was invented is rendered useless.
anyone have any experience with setting up their hd2 with gps (not agps), using any of the standard softwares? i.e. tom tom, iguidance, etc. i pretty sure this is possible, but hard to find information on.
thanks
tom
HTC HD2
iguidance
gps tuner
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There are plenty of other GPS apps that should work with the HD2 that don't require a monthly payment. I'm only using Telenav through the 60 day free trial, and will cancel it afterwards.
Tom Tom, iGo 8, and Navigon all reportedly work for the HD2. You will have to pay for the software and maps, but otherwise there are no monthly expenses. From my understanding, they only require data service if you're using something like traffic updates, or if you're using a trial version and they need use the data service for verification purposes.
I've not tried any other GPS software other than Telenav yet, but I see no reason why they others shouldn't work.

i been using Ndrive and works better then it did on my pro2

[Q] How to use GPS with no internet connection?

Hi, What do I need for my blackstone in order to use any (suggestions, which is better, would be a great help) GPS sowtware without internet connection. I am not an expert in this, but I know that GPS devices (like tom tom or similar) use satellite data to show coordinates. How can this be done on my touch hd? As only preinstalled program is google maps that require internet connection.
I don't have unlimited data plan, so this is extremely expensive for me, but I am a fan of geocatching, so I need GPS.
Please help me with description of how this GPS works and what soft should I use?
Thanks

There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657

bethybabes69 said:
There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657
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Hi, thank for the info, but....
I installed TT7 with my region maps, but I still seem not to receive any GPS signal - my phone seems not to catch any satellite signal - is this a setting issue?

in tomtom7, just access the gps settings and set them to "internal gps receiver", then it should work immediately, given that in your very location you have gps coverage.

I've found that my Touch HD's GPS capabilities work great when I'm at home testing them, then fails to locate any satellites when I'm lost! lol
Not exactly true - but has got me before!
I would suggest that you try your GPS in various locations just to make sure that the building you live / work in, or the weather isn't blocking the signal that your phones GPS listens for...
I used TomTom for ages without issue, it can be copied directly from a memory card on a TomTom compatible device usually.
Recently my Dad bought iGo8 with the entire world maps installed, so I pinched that and run it straight off my storage card with just a few teething problems. This is the best GPS / SatNav on my phone so far...

+1 for iGO8
Best GPS software by far for me. This is the only and single reason why I haven't bought an Android phone yet.
If they would have created the same skinable thing for a HTC Desire etc the HD would be history.
If I were you.
1) disable a-gps, causes roaming costs and most gps application freak out on it (download advanced config tool and disable it that way)
Lock, no lock, lock, ... mostly caused by agps (assisted-gps). Assisted means that it also gets data from the cell-tower which abroad can cost you loads of money (and yes I had that once)
If you use HTC quick gps you will probably get a lock in seconds if you are outside so no need for assisted.
2) install the gps mod driver , this one 'thinks' ahead by calculating points that it gets from the GPS receiver. If you don't feel confident about this one skip it but read the thread and keep it in the back of your head.
3) buy iGO8 and install the gurjon skin which makes iGO look fantastic and makes it fully configurable the way you want it.
4) enjoy a fantastic GPS system