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New sprint rom?? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10293&page=3
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_...PL106_Ship.exe
It's been confirmed. That is the new official ROM for Sprint. It fixes the Bluetooth issues among others. No Rev. A or GPS of course, but that was expected.
question is, is this really "better" than the alltel rom that has been available for a long time already over at PPCgeeks...
The alltel rom fixed the BT and alarm problem as well. I'm excited to see that Sprint finally caught up, but I'm wondering if this is better than the setup I currently have.
Well I for one am happy and upset.. I would like to see REV A , as I need the faster upload speeds for sending big files from my 4gb micro sd.
I havent tried the Alltel rom, but the new sprint rom fixes the keyboard lag + wm6 responsiveness problems.
After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)
-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.
-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work
-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.
-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)
-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.
-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.
just my two cents.
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After reading all of the threads over at PPCGeeks, it seems like there are some mixed results on the ROM (to be expected I guess, you can't appease everyone.)
-Most are reporting the BT fix worked correctly.
-I didn't see anyone say that the Alarm fix didn't work
-People are reporting that the OS seems a little faster and better at managing memory, such as reclaiming more when you close an app, etc.
-The radio version on the Sprint ROM is 1.47, compared to 1.40 of the Alltel, some were reporting better reception between this one and the stock rom (1.32 I believe)
-the most widely spread issue I saw was that some users were having issues with their dpad not working. At first, someone pinned it down to sprinttv, as it worked after they removed it, but then others said that the problem returned.
-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
-I can't believe how many people were stuck on the idea that they would be able to use Sprite Backup or SPB Backup to restore all of their stuff. Let me say this again, because I don't think it can be said enough. Unless you are just restoring folders such as your documents or something non-system related, you CANNOT use these programs. You WILL overwrite the new files with the old ones, causing a boatload of issues, if it even works at all. So don't do it, or you will cause yourself some headaches. Activesync remembers the apps you have installed, so just sync afterwards and click the boxes. For your other stuff such as contacts, back those up with a contact backup app or sync with outlook if you've got it.
just my two cents.
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i took the plunge yesterday, i skipped out on all the sprint customization and everything turned out ok....haven't tested bluetooth yet but everything you said seems to be on point...
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-YMMV, but some reported that when they skipped the sprint customization of the rom (when it starts initially, after the 3 second delay where you can soft reset) it caused issues on their phone. One person said that a workaround for this was to let it install EVERYTHING initially, and then do a hard reset and skip the customization process. It makes sense that if it were something with the EXTRom that it might put something in there that you needed, but again, not sure on this one.
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Just to clarify this is part. A hard reset will completely erase any carrier customizations there is absolutely no reason for installing extrom, hard resetting then skipping. Just start out with the hard reset, skip customizations and you'll be good to go.
Although there are still the other bugs with the update =)
Just installed it a while ago, skipped the sprint customizations, everything seems to be running good and actually noticeably quicker than before. New startup screen is cool too, no problems thus far =)
do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.
load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho
Seems to only happen to some people though. I have had my phone on pretty much straight since the rom update.
there seems to be a major bluetooth issue where the BT just shuts off periodically.. Not sure how,but they found a way to make bluetooth even worse!
I can't carry on a conversation without BT shutting off on me.. (or use the gps without it shutting off/etc..)
-mark
I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...
1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?
For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.
As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.
I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.
These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.
Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.
Best Regards,
Aaron
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I haven't updated yet, plan to over the weekend, but I would suggest anyone having problems to stop and consider their setup first...
1. What programs are installed that could cause problems?
2. What registry hacks have been done that may cause problems?
3. What configuration settings might need reset that may cause problems?
For example, after a hard reset, Enhanced Network over USB is enabled by default, and this often causes Active Sync to have issues. Likewise, power management tweaks will have reverted to defaults and you may like a more finely tuned setup.
As for memory leaks being better/worse, you may have programs installed that are out of date/buggy.
I realize it's easier to jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon, but it doesn't help you or other users with legitimate problems when no consideration is given to what is causing a given problem.
These situations are precisely why the instructions tell you that EVERYTHING will be erased. This is a good thing since it forces you to clean house, but it also means you have to pay attention to those things you often neglect or may have changed ages ago and forgotten.
Finally, if all else fails, try the ROM update again. Sometimes things go wrong.
Sorry if this seems like a rant, I just want people having issues to place blame where it truly belongs. After considering these matters, if you still have problems, definitely let HTC and the rest of us know.
Best Regards,
Aaron
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My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:
-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours
-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour
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My experience is as simple and "vanilla" as it gets:
-Loaded new ROM
-Hard reset
-Stopped customizations
-Installed NO apps, did not turn on BT, made no calls, did nothing else
-3 DSODs in 4 hours
-Did a second flash (from a second computer with a freshly downloaded ROM)
-Hard reset
-Allowed customizations to run
-Again no apps, BT or calls
-DSOD within an hour
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Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
No, "most" users are not experiencing better results. I've been using this ROM with poor results, as have many others. Read this thread for many sad tales of woe:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10302
Basically, the new ROM does fix a bunch of things, but breaks others, so I would not recommend installing this ROM.
1) Locks up when changing from Sprint to roaming. You can test this by manually switching from Sprint to roaming and back a few times, you WILL get a phone lockup.
2) BT turns off randomly for many users.
3) Turn on BT, let unit sit for a few minutes until it goes to sleep, turn unit back on, dpad no longer works. I have seen this myself many times.
Don't install this update --- use the Alltel ROM or wait for another update.
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Sounds atypical to me, given that most users are updating without issue and experiencing better results. I have no reason to doubt your experience though... it sounds like you have faulty hardware, but here's a download link to the previous firmware if you're interested in trying it out first:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
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1) You're incorrect in stating that most users have no problems, etc. Some do, some don't. Read the posts at ppcgeeks, pdaphonehome, BAW, hofo. I am not at all alone in having problems.
2) I downgraded 2 days ago, and my Mogul runs fine again - just exactly like it did for the 1st 3 months I had it. It's not my hardware! It's a bad ROM release.
Not everyone uses the phone in the same way at all. So of course some people will not see the same problems that others do.
If you never use Bluetooth and never roam, then this ROM will work for you. Otherwise, it will cause problems. For me, Bluetooth works much better in 2.09, and I rarely if ever see lockups as I have with 2.16. So, I'm going with 2.09 for now. The alarm problem IS fixed in 2.16 but I never use alarms on my phone so it's not an issue for me. Freezes when roaming ARE a problem.
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do yourself a favor and wait for the next rom. If you didn't already experiance it, your device will lock up and go to sleep requiring a soft reset...very unusable. and BT will turn off after a few minutes randomly.
load the colonel's rom on, it's much better imho
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is colonels rom built on the alltel core rom? if so it may be our best bet as of now.
I installed ADP Cupcake around two weeks ago, and ever since that I've been noticing lag and unresponsiveness in the dialer. For example, if I'm at the Home screen and I type in "Travis" to call my friend Travis, it'll think I typed in "rvis" or something other than what I typed. This is very annoying and I'm wondering if there's any secondary app I could look to that is much faster and more responsive than the original dialer..?
Another problem I'm having is when I'm in Phone mode (calling someone), I'll often see a Force Close error. I think it mostly occurs when I press Hang Up. I don't know what the problem is exactly but is there any way to fix it?
I'm on JF ADP 1.51 with the Extra Volume hack and Apps on SD. Hopefully someone can tell me how to fix these problems :/
I don't know what causes it but sometimes my hero will show no signal (with an x over the bars) when I reboot. Once the phone is unlocked I get several force close messages for various apps. The same thing would keep happening no matter how many times I rebooted. The call settings menu is grayed out and if I try to hold the power button and turn on or off the mobile network the phone resets and the problem continues. Previously I would factory reset and every thing would work again but that was a pain. I have found that uninstalling any program and then rebooting will get me going again, which is better than a factory reset but it is still a pain.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a solution?
Are you running stock, are you running a custom ROM, and which one?
I am running stock
is it rooted or not?
I am running on fresh custom ROM and I have the same problem. Does anyone know what to do?? Or know of any new custom ROMs??
It is stock not rooted
Do you have more than 70 apps installed? Because it will do that if you do.
sprint hero no signal on reboot
try updating the prl.
it won't let you since the phone radio force closes
@rootwind
yes I have more than 70 apps. Is this problem unique to the hero? Can I fix it by downloading another ROM?
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@rootwind
yes I have more than 70 apps. Is this problem unique to the hero? Can I fix it by downloading another ROM?
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This is unique to the Sprint Hero... haven't found a ROM that didn't have this problem yet, but I've only tried the 1.5 ones.
Some people supposedly don't have this problem, but no idea why they don't.
To get it to work again you need to get back to under 70 apps and reboot.
I'm one of those people that don't have that problem. Right now I have 88 apps installed (not including the stock ones). That is most likely your problem though. Might not be exactly 70 so just uninstall a couple and reboot and see if it works. Only time it ever happened to me was when I installed a bunch of apps from the market at the same time.
I experienced the same issue with both original sprint rom and fresh custom rom. the issue is so anonying. I have installed more than 77 application, is that the reason? who android couldn't hold more than 77 applications? if that is the case, android sucks.
There is a thread that discusses this issue here: http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/15011-70-app-limit-hero-sprint-2.html
I had this problem the first week that I got my Hero because I wanted to try out a bunch of apps. After I got my count down below 70 the problem seemed to go away. But after I rooted to Fresh ROM 1.0 I've been able to get my app count up to 86 without any problems. Go figure.
I am having the same issue with my Sprint Hero. This is a HUGE bug!
I had the same issue earlier this week. (See thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608239 )
Although still over the limit of 70 apps, a Nandroid restore brought the phone back to working order. I've since uninstalled a number of items that I didn't really need and now I'm below 70.
Fingers crossed that HTC rolls in a fix for this, along with the other annoying bugs ( ::coughWidgetSettingscough:: ) when OS 2.1 is ready. If not before.
i have not run into this issue... because.. I am below 50 apps...
But hope the new 2.1 will solve this...
so that I never see the problem
heres to hoping..
No, you just have to deal with it. I have tried all of them.
We revisit a ton of issues on this site, you should search before starting new threads on basic questions. peace
This is happening with all Hero CDMA devices. The app count is completely dependent on what ROM you have installed. If it is a very lean ROM like the Fresh 1.1 that im using now, I can get to 95 apps and then on 96 and reboot I get no signal and FC's. With Modaco 2.0 I believe it was about 80-85 and with Modaco 1.3a custom it was about 76 apps. So I'm sticking with my Fresh 1.1 till this gets sorted out.
When I called HTC customer support the guy said they were not aware of the problem, however over in another forum that was talking about this another guy emailed them and got a response stating they were aware of the issue but didn't have a fix currently.
HTC... get your act together. Whats the point of having a smart phone and 20,000 apps in the market if I can only have a few on my phone at a time?
Has anyone been able to demonstrate this on the 2.1 ROMs that are out? I have a nandroid backup of a fresh 2.1 eclair ROM that I haven't installed anything on. I'll try loading that one up with apps and see weather or not I can recreate the problem on it.
If anyone is using the 2.1 ROM could you post how many apps you are running on it and if you have experienced this problem while using it?
I was beginning to think I was the only one. This has happened a few times to me, and I have had to Restore my last image and reinstall/update the programs I have installed. I found that APNdroid did it to me almost every time, but I wont swear that it is the one causing the issue. I am just glad I always do a backup. I am on MoDaCo Custom ROM v 1.2C by Obelisk, and I have installed over 60 programs, not including the 40 or so (icons) that came stock on the Hero. Same issue, the radio just dies, and nothing I can do will turn it back on, and everything I try just gives me a crash.
Hi All,
I have a problem where my phone crashes and reboots when I launch an app that uses the camera in any way, for example layar, barcode scanner, camera etc. This only happens in Android 2.1, I've tried various ROMs and always the same issue. I've tested Android 1.5 and there are no problems with that at all.
I've noticed the crashes only occur when I'm on battery power, it never happens when the phone is plugged in so I cannot get logs to see what is going on, unless someone knows a way to get the logs from a crash.
I was wondering if anyone else has seen this problem and if so, if they've found a resolution to it.
Since updating with the OTA 2.1 update I have been experiencing this problem too. Phone reboots when it uses the camera, Layar, Yelp, AugSatNav all seem to cause the problem.
I get this problem too, with the camera, and also sometimes when I put the volume down it freezes and reboots
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I've got the same problem. Restarting when launching apps using the camera.. Im glad that's not a HW problem but "only" SW bug.. I hope
It could (and probably is) a radio issue....Happens on the N1 and Desire if you try to use the camera too and seeing as the GPS,Camera both are dependant on the radio id say that is it! Find the radio reccomended with the rom you use and flash it( Beware of orange users being locked down though,you need a specific radio)
Just to add that I'm getting the same problem too running FroydVillain 1.2.2 and baseband 6.35.15.14, should point out that been having the problem for quite a while on a multitude of ROMs :-(
I'm not - did you full wipe?
Multiple wipes...
try 1.3 i guess
I had this problem when I was on stock 2. 1 I would recommend rooting and flashing froydvillain.
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Tried multiple ROMs and multiple Radios with no change :-(
Unless theres a second secret wipe button hidden in recovery I don't know what else I can do :-/
try to disable "automatic brightness"...
Gynjanynja said:
I had this problem when I was on stock 2. 1 I would recommend rooting and flashing froydvillain.
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Hi,
I have had this problem since i went to 2.1 also, i have also flashed several rom's since villainrom 12 and have even used rcmix 1.0b which is a great 2.1 imo.
Have flashed 2.2 roms, and i am still having the same problem.
This is how i can replicate this problem and how it occurs, to the letter.
1.Bring phone out of lockscreen.
2.Open camera.
3.Take pic, in dark or light lighting with brightness on any setting.
4.Save pic.
5.Close camera.
6.Lock phone and wait for 10 seconds.
7.Bring phone out of lockscreen.
8.Open camera.
9.Phones lights all go out and the hero name flashes up onto the screen.
10.Full reboot.
This happens everytime no matter what.
Some things to consider.
The phone will never reboot if it is plugged in to a usb / electric plug Charger and is actually charging.
The phone will remain on and will carry on taking pictures IF you don't close out of the camera the first time around.
No task killer was installed on my phone at the time of this test, although i have had task killers before with the same results.
Lighting effects and brightness can sometimes have an effect on the ratio and probablility of a reboot, with brightness on full in a dark room being the most probable.
I am using the newest froyd rom 1.4.3 although i have tried pretty much every rom out there, I NEVER have this error when i installed a 1.5 rom which does not have apps2sd (weird that) which tells me that it is NOT a hardware fault.
I am using villains no logo kernel 19mhz - 691mhz
63.18.55.06PH_6.35.15.14 Radio
HTC Hero on Orage UK.
IF anybody can shed any light on this rather annoying matter resulting in this problem being erradicated will earn my eternal respect and a big clock. : )
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This is how i can replicate this problem and how it occurs, to the letter.
1.Bring phone out of lockscreen.
2.Open camera.
3.Take pic, in dark or light lighting with brightness on any setting.
4.Save pic.
5.Close camera.
6.Lock phone and wait for 10 seconds.
7.Bring phone out of lockscreen.
8.Open camera.
9.Phones lights all go out and the hero name flashes up onto the screen.
10.Full reboot.
This happens everytime no matter what.
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I can confirm that this isn't a bug on every install of 2.1 or 2.1 as I am unable to replicate the issue as described. Also if you've tried mutiple software and the bug is occurring across many that would suggest it is something hardware related or you are not performing a full wipe. Have you tried backing up the data on your sd card and formatting that then putting back only the necessary data (pics / music etc)?
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I can confirm that this isn't a bug on every install of 2.1 or 2.1 as I am unable to replicate the issue as described. Also if you've tried mutiple software and the bug is occurring across many that would suggest it is something hardware related or you are not performing a full wipe. Have you tried backing up the data on your sd card and formatting that then putting back only the necessary data (pics / music etc)?
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I originally posted this issue and the descriptions from everyone else with the problem match mine pretty much perfectly.
I've taken all info off the sd card and performed a complete wipe of data, ext and davlik before formatting the sd card. I've put the blank SD card (apart from the ROM I'm about to flash) back into the phone and flashed. After config and before any new apps are installed on the phone I launch the camera and within 4 attempts at start the camera the phone will crash. This has happened across every 2.1 ROM I've tried, but doesn't happen on 1.5 ROMs.
Using the stock camera app? Have you tried without installing any of your own apps at all?
This is very odd. No matter what I try I can't get the camera app to crash. Though I am using v2.2 of android. Have you tried official 2.1? Vanilla and Sense?
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Using the stock camera app? Have you tried without installing any of your own apps at all?
This is very odd. No matter what I try I can't get the camera app to crash. Though I am using v2.2 of android. Have you tried official 2.1? Vanilla and Sense?
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Yep, it crashes using the stock app.
I've tried a rooted version of the offical but not the actual OTA update. I've not tried vanilla as I don't really want to run vanilla on it.
I've managed to take some logcat logs of the problem happening but there's nothing really specifc happening over a few crashes that would point to anything. .
I'm going to try to unroot my hero and downgrade to stock to start again. Just have to find a way to downgrade my bootloader first so I can put on the original RRU. I tried to downgrade before but got an invalid bootloader error.
The camera crash doesn't really affect me day to day as I don't really use the camera, where it is annoying is it stops you using apps that use the camera like goggles and layar.
Ahh - so its not the camera app that is crashing but other apps too which are using the camera. Very odd.
And FYI - you don't need to touch your bootloader - just change the driver in windows to My HTC instead of HTC Bootloader and the rru will work.
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I can confirm that this isn't a bug on every install of 2.1 or 2.1 as I am unable to replicate the issue as described. Also if you've tried mutiple software and the bug is occurring across many that would suggest it is something hardware related or you are not performing a full wipe. Have you tried backing up the data on your sd card and formatting that then putting back only the necessary data (pics / music etc)?
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I have formatted and re partitioned my sd card to a T and it still occurs and thats with everytime i install a new rom, i don't use titanium i go the long way around every time and re set up all my programs, I know i can replicate this error like i said and like i also said this does not occur in 1.5 roms.
I have also have this problem with vanilla, modaco's new one, villain rom, rcmix, froyd, it appears that ever since the phone was updated to 2.1 there is a problem when using the camera app.
I have tried to install a rom and replicate the issue without installing any apps at all and it still persists, the only thing i can say is that it doesn't happen when i'm either on 1.5 OR the phone is charging?
It sounds like the the phone is requesting access for use of the camera and then not putting back what it requested in the first place, like a cache or something, and it simply make the phone reboot when it is called upon again.
I don't believe it is a hardware fault, i know this sounds like wishful thinking but the phone does not have this error in 1.5 roms. Thus, it cannot be hardware. Simple!
Also a logcat does not show anything, i was only able to replicate the error once whilst my phone was plugged in, it just won't do it again, and when i posted my findings on villainroms bug report section, a few of the lads still didn't know what it was so i don't know what else to say.
I'm due for an upgrade in October so for me at least it's not that much of a deal but i'm planning on giving this phone to my daughter so it would be good to get it working for her.
Would save me a lot of earache.
If u need to know anything else then please let me know, oh and i am using a class 2 sd card, which i have been unable to change, however just today my girlfriend has just had a class six delivered and her old one will be up for grabs so i will test with that too. Has anyone else tried with multiple cards??? Also how do i find out what boot loader i am using (recover) as maybe the problem resides there.
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Ahh - so its not the camera app that is crashing but other apps too which are using the camera. Very odd.
And FYI - you don't need to touch your bootloader - just change the driver in windows to My HTC instead of HTC Bootloader and the rru will work.
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Thats right, its any app which accesses the camera.
What could be the correlation between connecting the charger and not connecting the charger, could that be a power issue and the battery is delivering too low a power output on it's own to run the camera? Hence it works with the charger plugged in ?? Either way i think that is the only real clue there is to be honest, unless your phones still restart when the phone is plugged in, in which case it's not much use.
First things first, HTC Desire Z, I am in New Zealand on the Vodafone network in case that makes a difference and running bog standard Sense UI with no mods or ROMs or anything like that.
I have done a search and can't find anything similar anywhere except some asian sites, and I suspect (but hope it isn't) because the phone came from Hong Kong.
Ok, last night an update came through to my phone with the above code, I have lodged a query with HTC but no response as yet and figured you guys may have a better/quicker fix.
Essentially since the update came through the phone has been very slow and glitchy... stalls on background screen before loading app buttons, widgets, menus everything.
So I guess I want to know A: is this a legit update or is it some sort of hack?
and B: can I revert somehow to the last/correct version or am I going to need to install a ROM and start from scratch?
I appreciate your help and if you need any more info just ask.
cheers
Tis legit. HTC seem to be rolling the update worldwide, but very slowly. My dad got it in the UK last Tuesday, I'm still waiting.
His phone seems to be ok. If you're still having problems, try hard reset?
Cheers dude, ok at least that is one less thing to worry about
might give a hard reset a go
I've heard that once you do a update its always good to do a factory reset its like a pc you'll need to give it a good cleaning some time LOL try that
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Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
hogg2500 said:
Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
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The canadian desire z is still at 1.34, afaik it hasn't had any updates at all
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Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
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You'll find that if its provided through a carrier, they'll handle the software updates after HTC issues them to ensure their "value added software" or "crap" is loaded on it.
Saying that, mine is a UK SIM free from HTC and I still haven't got the 1.8x.xxx.x update, I'm at 1.72
Heya, I also have the Desire Z, bought from Hong Kong, use on Vodafone, live in Wellington NZ, and also did the update this morning.
Haven't noticed my phone running any slower yet but keen to see the improvements touted though. So far just seen little UI cosmetic changes.
Be sure to go into accounts and redo your sync settings, it put stocks and weather back to real time sync on mine...turned them off straight away.
AHHHHH that could have something to do with the hanging issue. I did a hard reset and initially it seemed better but then once I had re-instated my backed up data, contacts etc, (especially after I shut off the HTC messaging app, and re-synched my google accounts for some reason) it started hanging again.
Maybe the stocks (which I have banished) is trying to sync in the background somewhere? *wanders off to see*
It is a good sign that it is working on other DZ's, main issue seems to be on keyboard open/close events... so might just be incompatiblility with an app I'm running... god I hope it isn't Handcent
Ok, update time, redone the sync settings, removed anything that has been added in the last week or so in case I just didn't notice (unlikely but ???) the hanging problem.
oefox are you using Handcent for your messaging or the standard messaging app? i have removed it and that seems to have made a slight improvement although only very slight... this is driving me mad... may have to try another hard reset tonight and rebuild the data only and start again with apps.
Fake edit: HTC got back to me "try soft reset, hard reset... sorry can't help as phone is HK build, we have passed your query to them... they will be in touch" We shall see?
Actual Edit: Also seems to be destroying battery life all of a sudden, and it seems to think it has been off the charger for 22 minutes... which is odd as it came off the car charger 5 hours ago... hmmm.. definite issues here... looks like an actual rebuild may have to happen :/
You could try an app like Watchdog Lite from the Android Market to see if there is a process gobbling up your CPU cycles? It may be the cause of what's slowing the phone and draining your battery...
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Thanks for that, I have installed Watchdog Lite, removed a couple of apps that I thought might be a little bit problematic and I will stop playing with it for the day and how the battery reacts to "normal" use i.e. not constantly setting/resetting loading/unloading/deleting/syncing/unsyncing stuff lol... still seems to hang and whatnot though but we shall see.
If that doesn't help I will try a fresh hard reset and build from scratch (not from backup) and see if that helps :/
Call me uninspiring but I really like the default email and messaging. I have found after playing with it for a couple of days now that it will sometimes hang for a couple of seconds when returning to the home screen, shows the background but no icons for a few seconds.
On the plus side my wifi seems to have improved stability somewhat.
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Call me uninspiring but I really like the default email and messaging. I have found after playing with it for a couple of days now that it will sometimes hang for a couple of seconds when returning to the home screen, shows the background but no icons for a few seconds.
On the plus side my wifi seems to have improved stability somewhat.
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I did upgrade the firmware, but I didnt notice any improvement.
I mean everything is just fine
I thought that it would upgrade it to Gingerbread and Sense 3.0
I would be nice to have that version
Cheers
I have an HK Desire Z as well, and have experienced the exact same problem since the system update. I have not tried a hard reset because I'd rather not spend the time, but the home screen "blank and reload" issue is quite aggravating. I may have no other choice but to reset.
I will try waiting a couple days to see if somebody posts an easier fix.
Aha if you have a G2 wait till T-mobile gives it to us... we will be getting gingerbread
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Ok, good to see it isn't just me, it is definitely an issue and the reset doesn't seem to help much so if you havn't already done it don't bother localhost21. however I think I have found the main culprit and it seems to be the Google Maps updates that are causing the majority of the hanging etc.
if you remove the updates, i.e. go back to the standard version that came on the phone and it seems to make quite a difference so try that.
Unfortunately as i use the navigation function on maps quite a bit I kinda need to keep it so a bit of a catch 22. If you don't really need it though that should solve most of the problem... if any other fixes arrive let me know
Hopefully vodafone NZ give us the Gingerbread upgrade, or google brings navigation out of beta because it really is very good.
Edit: Still hangs, I have become a habitual killer of tasks which is nearly as annoying as the hanging, esp. if you have to open the task manager after it has hung, and it seems the processes causing the hang won't stay dead (auto-killed etc) *goes hunting for basic, stable, rom*
I encountered a new problem in that my notification sounds seem to randomly choose what to play when I recieve sms/calls so I did a hard reset but I still have that issue.
It also still hangs on the home screen if the k/b is open so hard reset doesn't fix this problem so I want to try a new rom
Has anyone done a root/flash yet with a HK Z?
I have a HTC Desire Z on the 2Degrees Network. I'm running Android version 2.2.1 Build numner is 1.84.708.1 CL322105 can I get an upgrade? Vheers.
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I encountered a new problem in that my notification sounds seem to randomly choose what to play when I recieve sms/calls so I did a hard reset but I still have that issue.
It also still hangs on the home screen if the k/b is open so hard reset doesn't fix this problem so I want to try a new rom
Has anyone done a root/flash yet with a HK Z?
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What do you mean? I have HK DZ.
I rooted it. But I had to downgrade it to ROM 1.34.xx.
As I understand, there is no way atm to root from ROM 1.84.xx