(VERY LONG POST)
Well, I've been asked by a number of people to share my working settings, that allow my O2 badged XDA2 to fully work for Orange UK, so here goes. Hope it helps and works for you, and any errors etc, I will reply to, and thus this thread should become a fairly exhaustive guide.
STEP 1
The first step is to go into Start > Settings > Connections, and then click on the Connections icon itself.
You should then see a screen, with two main sections, relating to "MY ISP", and lower down, "My Work Network" (don't panic if it says "MMS Network for the lower one - this can be changed by going into the Advanced tab on the lower part of the screen, and choosing from a drop down list).
Start with the "My ISP" section, by clicking on the "Manage existing connections" link.
This will bring a screen up with the existing O2 settings listed. Now this is where you have a choice... You can either set up the orange settings as a NEW set, or you can just EDIT the existing O2 settings to change them to Orange. My instructions are based on a NEW set, which I feel is safer.
So... Click on the word "NEW" and we will work through it.
Firstly, call the connection name "Orange GPRS" without the quotes.
In the "Select a modem" drop down, choose "Cellular Line (GPRS)" <don't miss the GPRS bit there!>
Then we need to click on the "Next" button.
The access point name is "orangeinternet" with no quotes or spaces.
Then click "NEXT" again.
The username, password, domain, can all be left blank, but we need to click the "ADVANCED" button now...
We do not need to alter the TCP/IP settings, but we DO need to alter the Servers, so click on the "SERVERS" tab at the bottom.
Next, click the "Use Specific Server Address" radio button (the second of the two).
And enter the following details:
DNS: 158.43.192.1
Alt DNS: 158.43.128.1
Then click OK, to take you back to the last screen.
And at this point, you can click "FINISH" to create the settings. Well done so far. And then click the OK circle in the top corner, to come out of the "My ISP" settings.
STEP 2
You should now be at the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" showing. Now we need to click on the "manage existing connections" link under "MY WORK NETWORK" this time, as we have already done the "My ISP" one.
So, click the lower one, "Manage existing connections" and we'll work through this...
A screen will pop up, with the existing O2 WAP network settings shown.
Again, I find it best to create a NEW connection, so click that button now.
Give the connection the name "Orange CSD WAP" (this is the older style dial up one we are doing first, GPRS WAP comes next).
For the modem type, choose "Cellular Line" this time (NOT the gprs version - just simple Cellular Line).
Then. click the "NEXT" button.
Enter the number as "+447973100500" without the quotes, and then click "NEXT"
Right, things get a bit iffy here, because of course, when I went to see what my settings were, the password was asterisked out ****
I THINK I know what it is though, and it seems to both fit and work, so go with my suggestion, but if anyone knows any different, please post it here.
The username is "Orange" without quotes, but I think with a capital O.
The password is "orangemultimedia" all one word, no spaces or caps or quotes - it seems to work for me for MMS (coming later) however, but I never bother with CSD WAP, so haven't put it to a full test.
The Domain can be left blank.
We don't need enter anything more, or any advanced settings, so just click on "FINISH" to complete setting up the older style CSD WAP settings.
We should now be back to the "My work Settings" screen, with your new settings also listed. We need to set up the more usual GPRS WAP now though, so once again, click the "NEW" button to set a new lot up.
Give the connection the name "Orange GPRS WAP" so it's easy to identify, and for modem type choose "Cellular Line (GPRS)" - note the gprs IS chosen this time. Then click the "NEXT" button.
The access point name is "orangewap" all one word without the quotes. Then click "NEXT".
There are no username, passwords, or domain settings to enter, nor any DNS etc, so you can now simply click on "FINISH" to save these settings.
Then you can click the "OK" circle in the corner, to exit the work settings screen.
We are now back to the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" shown.
We need to set up MMS now, but the screen only shows two connections, so we need to click on the "ADVANCED" tab at the bottom now.
A couple of buttons will now appear, including one that says "SELECT NETWORKS", so click on that now.
Two drop down menus should then appear, and the bottom one will be the "My Work Network" connection. Click on this, to choose instead, "MMS Network", and then click the "EDIT" button to continue.
Now you should see the fairly familiar settings screen, but this time with the O2 settings for MMS or O2 WAP listed.
Click the "NEW" button to continue.
Call the new connection "Orange MMS" without quotes, and the modem type is again "Cellular Line (GPRS)". Then click "NEXT".
The access point name is "orangemms" without spaces or quotes. And then again, click "NEXT".
The username is "Orange", the password I THINK is again "orangemultimedia" all one word, no quotes (if anyone knows different post here, but it seems to work for me).
Once this is entered, there are no advanced settings to configure, so simply click the "FINISH" button to continue on.
You should then be dropped back to the list of MMS settings. Make sure at this point that the new "Orange MMS" item is the one that has the radio button checked.
Now just click the round "OK" button in the corner to continue.
You will be back to the Network Management screen with the two drop down boxes. It is VERY important it seems, at this point, to make sure that for the lower box, you change the drop down item back to "My Work Network" before continuing - so make sure you choose that now for the lower box, and then click the round "OK" button in the corner.
You will then be back to the Connections screen, but on the advanced tab, so click the "TASKS" tab instead to get back to the usual screen, where "MY ISP" should be the top set of options/links, and "My Work Network" should be the lower set.
Go into "Manage existing connections" for each one, respectively, just to check that the radio button is ticked for the ORANGE settings, and not the old O2 ones, for each of these (MY ISP, then My Work Network). (NOTE - Sometimes, for a pass-thru connection using ActiveSync, I find that the option "Auto Pick" needs to be the one checked, so remember where it is now, in case you need come back to it in future).
Once you have made sure it is using the new ORANGE settings for each that you have just created (use the GPRS WAP, not the CSD WAP, for the Work Network connection), then click "OK", "OK", and then the X to come out of this, and back to the Today Screen. At this point we are nearly finished (thank the lord), but we have one last thing to set up, and this is the killer, hidden away and oft forgot about...
STEP 3
Now we need to finally configure an intricate setting within MMS, for it to work properly. To do this, click on the Today screen, to create or view your MMS messages, simply to get the MMS editor to open up.
Once you are within the MMS editor itself, there should be two menu items on the bottom of the screen - NEW, and TOOLS.
Click Tools > Options now.
This will bring you into the Options interface, but on the PREFERENCES tab. We need the "SERVERS" tab, so click on that, at the bottom, now.
There should be only one item, the O2 settings, then listed. I don't know any way to ADD a NEW set, so instead we just click/press on the O2 settings one, to go into that, and make the changes to this set.
Firstly, call the server name "Orange MMS" without the quotes.
The gateway address is vital. It is: 192.168.224.10
Finally, the server address is "http://mms.orange.co.uk/" without the quotes.
Click on "OK" and this will drop you back to the Options screen. Now click on the PREFERENCES tab.
Now we can set this up properly.
"Connect via" should be changed, or read "MMS Network" form the drop down list.
"Connect to server" should be changed, or read, so that it is now the new "Orange MMS" settings.
Retrieve messages immediately should be ticked.
Sending limitations should be 40K I am told (though this seems strange for video messaging).
Depending on whether you have the newest ROM upgrade or not, if you have the new, there will only be one item to change to 40K. If you have an older ROM, you need to set 40K for both the SEND, and the RECEIVE limit.
No. of attempts before aborting seems to be a matter of choice - I tend to use "1" for the option here.
On newer ROMS there is also a box for "Download on home network only". If you tick this, it means you WON'T receive MMS when roaming. I seem to recall before my upgrade last night that this item is not there on older ROMS.
Once you have set this up, click the "OK" circle, then the X to come out of the MMS Editor, back to the Today screen.
And WELL DONE - you are finished.
Try connecting to the Internet on your XDA2, and check that it 'dials' an Orange GPRS connection.
Then try sending and receiving an MMS. And then finally, make sure you have an ActiveSync pass-thru to the internet when the XDA2 is docked on the cradle too.
All being well, you should have a fully functioning XDA2, but using the Orange network to go with your SIM (assuming of course you unlocked it).
I hope this post has been useful (if not very lengthy), and any feedback or amendments, or questions, please post below - though I can't be held liable for any issues that result from it!
I should add that Orange SMS centre number, and Voicemail number, is automatically retrieved from the Netowrk when you have an Orange SIM in.
If you have any problems though, click Start > Settings > Phone, and then the Services tab.
There you can alter the usual stuff like call bariing etc, BUT, if you click the "Get Settings" button, it should retrieve the SMS centre, and voicemail number automatically.
If I have missed anything, just give me a yell...
Cheers
Shadamehr
Thanks very much for the info
I have printed it off and will set up xda
as soon as possible, will let you know how it goes
Thanks again
Bryan whitby
thanks
Thanks alot man
No problem guys - but please let me know if they work, or what problems you are having.
Many, many thanks!
Just done everything you've said and it all works fine.
Thank you very much.
Further to the stage 3 mms instructions
I have just upgraded to the latest ROM version ( v1.60.50 - download from http://www.xda-2.co.uk/downloads/xda2_upgrade.html). It don't know if it's because of the upgrade but:
When you are on the Tools>Options>Servers tab, if you click/press and hold on the O2 settings a menu appears with an option to set up a new set. I have done this and put in the details you specify. When you are back on the Options screen you can then choose the new set of server settings from a drop-down on the Connect to Server box.
I hope this is a small but useful addition to your instructions.
Cheers,
Grimsacre
AHA!!!!
Nice one Grimsacre.
My post was first wrote not long after i had first got my XDA2, so I didn't know much about the tapping and holding option.
But still, even now however, I had not noticed you could do that - well spotted.
So folks, what Grimsacre is saying, is that if you DON'T want to delete the existing O2 MMS server settings (this is within the MMS application itself, in the Tools, Options menu), then if you tap and HOLD on the existing O2 settings you will find as you work through my guide, you will get the option to create a NEW additional set for Orange.
Me personally, I tend to prefer to get all the O2 stuff off the phone when setting it up for Orange, as a Hard reset should get the O2 stuff and settings back if ever you need them again.
But if you like to play it safe, as mentioned in my guide above, THIS bit Grimsacre has discovered will allow you to keep O2 MMS settings,whilst adding a NEW set for Orange.
Cheers again mate.
Many Thanks Shadamehr
Superb Job Shadamehr,
Many thanks. I've only had my XDA II for 4 hours now and after following one set of your instructions posts, and one email from you with advice have now got it unlocked, and all the GPRS, MMS connections with orange working 100%.
Now that's what I call Top Tips.
Your a star!!
Thanks again!!
David
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New XDA User said:
Superb Job Shadamehr,
Many thanks. I've only had my XDA II for 4 hours now and after following one set of your instructions posts, and one email from you with advice have now got it unlocked, and all the GPRS, MMS connections with orange working 100%.
Now that's what I call Top Tips.
Your a star!!
Thanks again!!
David
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Not a problem at all mate.
Extra tip for you maybe?
If you download Sprite Backup, a good suggestion is to do a backup of your entire XDA2, at whatever point you feel the 'happy medium'.
By this, I mean that as soon as you get rid of the O2 interface etc, and put the Orange settings on, this could be one possibility, and it means if you need to hard reset or ROM upgrade, you can simply delete the O2 stuff and settings afterwards, Sprite Restore, and have a shiny Orange configured and clean XDA2 in no time.
But if you regularly use certain applications, it might be better to install them on the phone before setting a Restore file.
It's all about balance though - too much stuff, and it can be bloated, too little, and it means more work for you to do after a hard reset.
For me, what I do/have, is all the O2 stuff removed, including settings, the Orange settings added, RingtoneX installed, my ringtones, my contacts database as it was at the time, and my caller id photos, and set up for the caller ID app.
Then I make a save file.
That way, if I need to Hard reset, I can just delete the O2 stuff, and do a restore, and in no time have a clean Orange XDA2, but with all my photos set up for Caller ID.
Then if some contacts are out of date, I just do a sync to my pc, and they are updated, and the calendar added.
Hope this helps too.
Cheers mate.
(OHHHHH - just one thing... When doing a restore using Sprite, DON'T restore any email or sms, as this can corrupt the XDA2 to a unique way whereby you won't be notified of sms you receive, and they won't show up. - so untick the Email/Sms option).
UK OrangeWorld WAP access...
Hi Shadamehr,
I've followed your guide for setting up my XDAII to work with Orange, but I have a problem with WAP access.
I am trying to access the Orange World site by entering wsp://wap.orange.co.uk in IE. At this point it hangs for a very long time. I do get a "Connecting to Orange GPRS WAP" message.
I can access the O2 wap website - wsp://wap.o2.co.uk.
I have setting as described above, (I think!!!). I am on the latest O2 ROM.
I have "Auto Pick" joghlighted in Connections - should I just select the Orange GPRS WAP selection.
Any help would gratefully be received.
Regards,
Mike
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mike_m said:
Hi Shadamehr,
I've followed your guide for setting up my XDAII to work with Orange, but I have a problem with WAP access.
I am trying to access the Orange World site by entering wsp://wap.orange.co.uk in IE. At this point it hangs for a very long time. I do get a "Connecting to Orange GPRS WAP" message.
I can access the O2 wap website - wsp://wap.o2.co.uk.
I have setting as described above, (I think!!!). I am on the latest O2 ROM.
I have "Auto Pick" joghlighted in Connections - should I just select the Orange GPRS WAP selection.
Any help would gratefully be received.
Regards,
Mike
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Strange mate...
Just tried it, and got the same problem, even though it USED to work for me.
Additionally, I tried it out using my SPV E200, and it worked fine.
Soon as I use the same address on the XDA2 however, and it won't load.
I know the XDA2 has issues with WAP addresses, in that some say they have to be entered in the right manner (wsp etc), but I have never had problems in the past accessing the Orange World site.
Sorry I can't help more.
hi..Shadamehr..
I bought my imate from kuwait 3 months ago.. put in my orange simm in and thanx to you an dto all those who helped i can access internet and all cuz orange dont support imate.. anyway.. i have a small problem with mms.. i did everything u stated in your steps and changed the settengs in the server taps for orange mms.. but when i go back to the previuos screen where you mentioned i should choose "mms network" in the "connect via" option.. well i dont get "mms network" in the drop down menu.. this what appears in the list (MTC kuwait, My Work Network, My ISP, Work, Secure WAP Network, The WAP Network, The internet).. which one of these should i choose?
I would really appreciate your help..
Thnx in advance
Hello,
I think its the "My Work Network" if you read the instructions at the top after you do the MMS settings it says its important to select that one, hopefully that's the stage you are on.
I've pasted the bit below for you, I hope thats the relevant piece you need.
"You should then be dropped back to the list of MMS settings. Make sure at this point that the new "Orange MMS" item is the one that has the radio button checked.
Now just click the round "OK" button in the corner to continue.
You will be back to the Network Management screen with the two drop down boxes. It is VERY important it seems, at this point, to make sure that for the lower box, you change the drop down item back to "My Work Network" before continuing - so make sure you choose that now for the lower box, and then click the round "OK" button in the corner."
David
i tried all in the drop down menu including my work network.. still no luck ..
plz help
Can I clarify...
If you click the start button as it were, on the today screen, then go to Settings > Connections (tab) > Connections (icon),
Then click on ADVANCED tab, then the Select Netowrks button, can you THEN choose MMS Network from the list of items in the drop down boxes.
If you CAN, then you should also be able to select this in the MMS Application itself, and the point you say you can't choose this.
If you CAN'T see it listed however, this means there are no settings for MMS on the device, so you have missed some of the steps from my instructions earlier on...
Have a look, and let me know.
More Orange settings!
Shadamehr,
As you are the font of all knowledge re Orange I thought I'd ask you for some more advice. I've set up my xda2 to use Orange and all is working well. I'm using gprs to connect to the web.
Being a cheapskate and seeing as how I am on a monthly tariff with inclusive minutes that I generally do not use up completely, I thought that it would be handy to use the normal cellular line instead of the gprs connection. I know the connection will be slower but I will save a bit of money!
Of course I do not know the phone number, username, password etc. I've tried using the wap phone number and experimenting with different usernames and passwords but to no avail.
Any ideas, O Wise One?
Cheers,
Grimsacre
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grimsacre said:
Shadamehr,
As you are the font of all knowledge re Orange I thought I'd ask you for some more advice. I've set up my xda2 to use Orange and all is working well. I'm using gprs to connect to the web.
Being a cheapskate and seeing as how I am on a monthly tariff with inclusive minutes that I generally do not use up completely, I thought that it would be handy to use the normal cellular line instead of the gprs connection. I know the connection will be slower but I will save a bit of money!
Of course I do not know the phone number, username, password etc. I've tried using the wap phone number and experimenting with different usernames and passwords but to no avail.
Any ideas, O Wise One?
Cheers,
Grimsacre
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If you mean "how to set up old fashioned CSD WAP", then it's already covered in my post above...
Specifically:
STEP 2
You should now be at the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" showing. Now we need to click on the "manage existing connections" link under "MY WORK NETWORK" this time, as we have already done the "My ISP" one.
So, click the lower one, "Manage existing connections" and we'll work through this...
A screen will pop up, with the existing O2 WAP network settings shown.
Again, I find it best to create a NEW connection, so click that button now.
Give the connection the name "Orange CSD WAP" (this is the older style dial up one we are doing first, GPRS WAP comes next).
For the modem type, choose "Cellular Line" this time (NOT the gprs version - just simple Cellular Line).
Then. click the "NEXT" button.
Enter the number as "+447973100500" without the quotes, and then click "NEXT"
Right, things get a bit iffy here, because of course, when I went to see what my settings were, the password was asterisked out ****
I THINK I know what it is though, and it seems to both fit and work, so go with my suggestion, but if anyone knows any different, please post it here.
The username is "Orange" without quotes, but I think with a capital O.
The password is "orangemultimedia" all one word, no spaces or caps or quotes - it seems to work for me for MMS (coming later) however, but I never bother with CSD WAP, so haven't put it to a full test.
The Domain can be left blank.
We don't need enter anything more, or any advanced settings, so just click on "FINISH" to complete setting up the older style CSD WAP settings.
Bear in mind, that using CSD WAP, it's meant for WAP only, and as the XDA2 browser is a full HTML based browser, you might have big issues with sites that are NOT specifically pure WAP.
And if this is NOT what you meant, can you elaborate a bit better what setting you do mean?
HTH,
Shadamehr
CSD browsing
Sorry mate, I probably wasn't too clear in my last post.
I set up CSD wap as you instructed ( thank you ). I would like to be able to use full html web browsing but using CSD rather than gprs. This would allow me to use minutes from my normal monthly contract tariff instead of paying for the add-on gprs data.
I used to use a device called a Pogo - a really good fast full web browsing device (and British!) but unfortunately the company went bust. The browsing was fast, even on a normal gsm connection, because they used a server to compress the data before sending it on to your Pogo device.
If Orange have an access number for WAP, I thought they might have a number for full browsing. What I guess I'm after is not "old fashioned CSD WAP" but rather "old fashioned CSD full html browsing".
Cheers,
Grimsacre
Oh right I see mate.
Well in that case, I'm not sure there is one. Indeed, I am not sure if I know of one for any network.
As the XDA2, a bit like a smartphone, is a bit unique in having a combined wap and html browser as one.
I'm just trying to get my head round it, and relate it to a nokia 6230 with inbuilt combined WAP and xHTML browser.
And in so doing, I've just realised that I never had cause or reason to ever use dial up 'wap' so as to be able to see if it allowed the loading up of html pages too. Mmmm.
You've got me curious now.
CSD browsing
I haven't used CSD wap either ( I set it up as you advised but have always been html browsing using gprs and have not used wap on the xda).
I have now tried to use CSD wap and have not been able to connect - I get a message telling me that my username or password is incorrect.
I had a chat with Orange support a little while back about connecting to Orangeworld wap and they gave me the same username and password as you did (ie Orange and orangemultimedia). I have another phone (Motorola v500) that connects to Orangeworld wap, using the same username and password, and that works. Strange!
I live in the US and have just bought an o2 Atom Exec. I have T-Mobile as my carrier but my Atom can not keep the signal for more than a few minutes at a time. The configuration Wizard can't help because it doesn't show the US as an option. I try to select T-Mobile but even when I am connected it won't show the name of the network. I am very upset - I spent alot of money on this phone but I can't use it. Can someone please help me configure it to connect to the T-Mobile Network?
I also have T-Mobile (USA) and have used these settings on a I-Mate Jam and now an Atom Life. It took me a while to gather this information, but now everything is working perfect. Here are all the network settings:
Connections: My ISP (Start->Settings->Connections)
Add new modem conection-> name->T-Zones
Cellular line (GPRS)
Access point: wap.voicestream.com
User, Pass., Domain: leave blank
Advanced: no change
Connections: My ISP (Start->Settings->Connections)
Add new modem conection-> name->PictureMessaging
Cellular line (GPRS)
Access point: wap.voicestream.com
User, Pass., Domain: leave blank
Advanced: no change
Connections: My Work Network
Set up my Proxy Server: Check both boxes
Proxy Server: 216.155.165.50
Advanced:
HTTP: 216.155.165.50:8080
WAP: 216.155.165.50:9201
Socks: 216.155.165.50:1080
Connections: My Work Network
Add new modem conection-> name->T-Mobile WAP
Cellular line (GPRS)
Access point: wap.voicestream.com
User, Pass., Domain: leave blank
Advanced: no change
This will give you Internet browsing, access to T-Zones (in Internet Explorer the address you need to type is: wsp://wap.myvoicestream.com) and MMS capabilities
For MMS, you also need to set the following:
In Messaging, choose options, then MMS
In the Servers tab, create a new configuration called PictureMessaging
with the following settings:
Gateway: 216.155.165.050
Port: 8080
Server: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Connect via: My ISP
This should work for any WM device and T-Mobile USA.
Have fun!
You are so cool, frenchygeek. I am very grateful for your reply and all your help. I made all the changes you recommended, except that I can not figure out how to add MMS because in Messaging options MMS is not listed. I can't add it because it requires an email address to add an account. Can you walk me through that?
I also found somewhere in this forum instructions to make a registry entry to change the default network to my local network. Now it no longer comes up trying to run the Wizard (with my default as Austraila with every soft reset. Do you need that information? (I am in my office but once I am home I can send it if you like.)
Anyway, I made some of these changes earlier today and the ones above just 5 minutes ago ... so now I'll see what happens. Thank you SOOOO much.
Susan
[email protected]
Cinamon,
Go to Start->Messaging or Start->Programs->Messaging or click on the Messaging line on the "Today" screen.
When in there, you may have a selection screen with the various messaging options you may have such as Text Message, MMS, Outlook or your corporate or personal email. Click on MMS. If you don't have this screen, then go to the next step.
Click on Menu->Tools->Options
At the screen which says "Tap an account to change settings", click on MMS. You will see 4 tabs (Preferences, Blacklist, Servers, About). Go to the server tab and make the changes that I outlined in my previous post. Accept everything, close and do a soft reset.
Voila!
BTW, yes, I would be interested in the information regarding the change on the register to place T-Mobile as a default provider. I never got around to do that.
Merci beaucoup.
Hi again, FrenchyGeek,
I'm so grateful to you - I have been begging for help from the manufacturer and the distributor but you and the other forum member are the only two sources of help I've had. Seems like someone else would be desparate for this information too.
I'm still not sure about MMS - MMS does not show up in options on my phone. I finally got to the MMS settings screen by going to the messaging screen of one of my email accounts, clicking on GOTO, choosing MMS (it does appear there) and then choosing tools -> options. It is not set up as yours is - I have to fill in :
Active Profile (A dropdown but I choose NEW)
From there I have to fill in
Profile Name:
MMSC: I typed in http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Data Connection: (a drop down and I choose T Mobile)
Gateway: (a drop down with only WAP1.0 Gateway and WAP2.0 Gateway to choose from)
IP Address: (I typed in 216.155.174.84)
Port: (I typed in 8080)
Do you think that will work?
OK, default networkconfiguration:
In the HKCU/AutoConfig/Network, find XPath string n change it to your network operator number. You can see your operator number (5 digits usually - mine was 31026) when you launch autoconfig, next to the "Detected from SIM" text. You can also see the operator number from the DetectNet or NetworkID keys in HKCU/AutoConfig/Network.
I still have trouble with it dropping signal or trying to connect to Australia. I wonder if there is anyway to delete all the overseas configurations so it can't find them again. Also, I drop signal everytime I connect via USB to my PC. Do you have these issues?
Another annoyance - the battery doesn't last long for me at all - I am definitely a power user, which is why I wanted the higher processing speed which lead me to the Atom Exec in the first place. Are there any extended batteries that you're aware of?
Thanks alot!
Susan
Thanks again.
Hello Cinamon,
I am using the new O2 Atom Life and I installed the WM6 ROM upgrade. Are you still on WM5? That may explain the differences, although I'm not sure why the MMS profile doesn't show up on yours.
The screen where you can find this is the first screen that shows up when you click on "Options" in "Messaging". It says "Options" at the top, "Tap an account to change settings" below, with a square containing "New Account...", "Text Messages", "MMS", "Outlook E-Mail", and possibly other accounts if you set them up yourself. Below are two buttons: "Security..." and "Signature...". The only way to properly set up MMS is to click "MMS" on this screen and then follow the procedure in my previous posts.
I also have an "Autoconfigurator" which shows the countries that are supported (Australia, Bahrain, China, etc.) but it doesn't launch automatically. When you go through a hard reset, it asks you if you want to run it, but you have the option to say no. After that, it doesn't come back. If it's in the ROM, I don't think you can delete it.
I don't have any of the problems you outlined. My phone actually works really well, except for one major flaw. I don't get the voicemail notification icon to show up when I have a new voicemail. I only get the missed call icon (if my phone is on). I opened a separate thread on this site but got no help so far. By searching on this site and others, I can tell that some WM phones have such a problem depending on the Tel-Co, but I can't seem to find the solution. Do you have any problem with that feature?
If you Google "O2 Atom battery", you can find after market batteries that actually provide longer charge. They void the warranty, so be careful.
Thanks for the default network configuration! What software do you use to edit the registry?
Take care!
Still No Luck
Hi Frenchygeek,
I have no problem with voicemail (on the few times my phone connects).
I use SKTools for editing the registry. Sometimes I use a freeware register editor which can only be used from your PC - I can send you that if you like. I know alot of people use Commander (also Freeware) but for me these two programs are more friendly, and SKTools has lots of tweaks and other cool utilities.
My phone is the Atom Exec and there is no update at the moment for WM6 so I am stuck with WM5. I can not get my phone to stay connected for more than 5 minutes at a time. It drops the line over and over again and is really unusable (except for games and mp3s etc ... smile ....) I thought I might reset to factory settings and begin again with your instructions but I can't find the option to do a hard reset - do you know how to do that? I am very frustrated as it was expensive and it's useless to me as is. I asked the seller if I could exchange or upgrade it and I'm waiting for his answer. Maybe the Life with WM6 would do the trick. Anyway, I have had no service at all for about 6 hours although I have tried every trick in the book and then some. Are you using code 31026 or are you in a different region in the US? (I am in Virginia)
Thanks again for your help.
Susan
Hey,
To hard reset, you need to press the stylus in the reset hole at the bottom of the phone while you press on the on/off button. Keep it this way until you see a message on the screen, which asks you to confirm the hard reset by pressing the green and red button simultaneously.
I think that it will do the trick. My Atom Life works perfectly fine with T-Mobile. I'm in California and my Tel-Co number is also 31026. It shows up on the Auto Configurator screen ("Detected from SIM: 31026").
If it wasn't for the lack of voicemail notification icon, I would be happy. I'm tempted to reinstall WM5 and see if that makes a difference. But I read that WM6 is so much better than WM5, so I really don't know what to do. Support at O2 basically gave me the finger. They said their phones are intended for the Asian Market...
Anyway, the Atom Life is a more recent phone compared to the Exec. It's a little bigger, but the specs are much better. It's much more expensive though...(I paid a little over $800 for mine).
Have fun!
Hello Again FrenchyGeek,
I did a hard reset and put all the settings in that you gave me, reset the autoconfig to 31026, and things are much better. I still lose signal a few times every hour but it does usually recover quickly, although there are times when I have to manually search for the signal as the phone doesn't do the search itself.
I do need to do something about the battery, however, and will follow your suggestion. I use the phone as an MP3 player and the battery drains in a couple of hours.
It must be frustrating that no one can help you with the voice mail problem. My voicemail notification works perfectly. Wish I could help. If you can think of a way for me to search my registry for the right setting let me know and I'll give it a try.
I still don't understand why the O2 company is not more responsive to us Americans .... it's a big market for them to tap into.
Susan
Hi Cinamon,
Just got an idea for the problem you're experiencing.
Under Start->Settings->Connections, I have a program called Band Switch.
In there you can select your network type: Auto, GSM, UTMS
And you can select your Band: Any, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900, UMTS 1900 and UMTS 2100.
If you have such a program, try to play around with the settings and see if it makes a difference. It's possible that you when you lose the signal temporarily the phone gets lost. If you force it to a certain band, then it might be more stable.
I don't know for sure, but it's worth a try.
Cheers
Hi Frencygeek,
I do have such a setting and I have repeatedly set it to 1900 (because that's what T-Mobile operates on) but it continually resets itself to tri-band. I wonder if anyone here can tell me how to make 1900 the default. I notice that it connects to GPRS but I have no phone service - although I can check my email and browse the web. In those cases I have to manually go into settings and tell it to connect to t-zones under my ISP. I think somehow it is defaulting to the YES OPUS settings of Australia everytime it loses signal, and I don't know how to direct it to my settings. Maybe I should try a new thread and see if anyone can help, although it does seem that support for those of us in the Western Hemisphere is sadly lacking.
As for your voice mail, I'm sure this is too obvious to suggest, but have you tried changing the notification type? Maybe a different ringtone or change to vibrate or play with that? Strange that is the one feature that works for me - but I certainly need it since no one can call me at least 50% of the time.
I do own an MDA and if I were not so hard headed I would use that ... but I'm having a hard time giving up as I do like the phone (and did spend $500 on it, although it came with extras like a miniSD card, bluetooth headset, etc.
Hello Cinamon,
Someone else in another thread suggested that I upgrade the Radio Rom to version 2.69.11 or 2.19.11. I have done some research and found that it should work with T-Mobile. The only problem is, I don't know where to find a radio rom that will work with my Atom Life and I don't know how to install it. I have read too many horrors stories about people "bricking" their phone after trying to flash their ROM. So, I'm a little hesitant, but I would do it if someone answer both my questions. Also, I don't know what version of radio rom I have. On WM6, System information looks different. My Radio version says: "AL1-KLNC-2.3.40CT-070424-2. I have no idea what that means.
Which brings me to my other suggestion for your problem. Maybe you could update your radio rom and things might just start working for you. Just a suggestion!
Hmmm .... I'm willing to try ... but how do I find an upgrade for my Radio Rom? I see there is an upgrade for the Atom Exec - in Chinise only. ;->
Any luck with voicemail?
Hi Again,
I have tried the band but still I lose signal much too often and it still takes forever to establish a connection again. Worse, it often shows the E in the top bar, which makes me think I have phone service, only to discover that I have only GPRS and have missed a bunch of calls. I contacted the person I bought it from and asked for an exchange - he does not sell the Life but I offered to pay the difference to upgrade to the Orbit, which has a quad band. I'm still awaiting his reply.
Any luck with your voice mail?
Susan
hi cin,
the o2 atom exec are only tri band gsm. i live in apac and had a similar problem over here when i bought a smartphone in the US. it was because carriers still prefer the lower frequency gsm as a default. coverage for the higher freq was spotty for me even when i forced a freq. check with t mobile
by the way, i have an atom exec and when i am in the US i am on cingular and have no issues with dropping. sorry.
For some reason I've done this a thousand times but its not working this time. I'm pretty sure I've set this up right but its not working. 1st question: Is it possible to send MMS messages through 'internet2.voicestream.com'? It works through 'wap.voicestream.com', but then GPRS/EDGE wont work through that, it will only work through 'internet2.voicestream.com'. In addition to that, the auto switch isn't working for me. The MMS is trying to use 'internet2.voicestream.com' and the GPRS/EDGE is trying to use 'wap.voicestream.com'. 2nd question: Is there a way to set this up MANUALLY, without a provisioning cab? I hate those things, they add in other customizations that I don't like or want.
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For some reason I've done this a thousand times but its not working this time. I'm pretty sure I've set this up right but its not working. 1st question: Is it possible to send MMS messages through 'internet2.voicestream.com'? It works through 'wap.voicestream.com', but then GPRS/EDGE wont work through that, it will only work through 'internet2.voicestream.com'. In addition to that, the auto switch isn't working for me. The MMS is trying to use 'internet2.voicestream.com' and the GPRS/EDGE is trying to use 'wap.voicestream.com'. 2nd question: Is there a way to set this up MANUALLY, without a provisioning cab? I hate those things, they add in other customizations that I don't like or want.
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I've been using the T-mo cab since day 5 (days 1-4 I was racking my brain trying to get MMS to work) and it configures the connections as follows:
-Use internet2... under "My ISP" (or "T-Mobile US" in your case)
-Use wap... under "My Work Network" and change the "Connect via:" setting under MMS settings appropriately. Also, proxy settings are enabled for this connection ("This network connects...." and "This network uses..." both checked, proxy server blank, and under advanced settings: WAP server is: 216.155.165.50:9201)
-Network management (under the advanced tab of connections) => "My ISP" in the top, and "My Work Network" in the bottom.
The autopick within a connection never seemed to work for me, but the above works fine. In order to send an MMS, you must first disconnect from your GPRS/EDGE connection (alternatively, MMS will be the first to connect when recovering from a dropped data connection).
Hope that helps, if not just run the provisioning cab...hell-of-a-lot easier and I don't see what "other" things are added, all it does is set up the network connections and all the settings, nothing more, nothing less. Filename of the one I've been using for quite some time is T-Mobile_USA_Internet_UNI_SA_V2.0.CAB
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I've been using the T-mo cab since day 5 (days 1-4 I was racking my brain trying to get MMS to work) and it configures the connections as follows:
-Use internet2... under "My ISP" (or "T-Mobile US" in your case)
-Use wap... under "My Work Network" and change the "Connect via:" setting under MMS settings appropriately. Also, proxy settings are enabled for this connection ("This network connects...." and "This network uses..." both checked, proxy server blank, and under advanced settings: WAP server is: 216.155.165.50:9201)
-Network management (under the advanced tab of connections) => "My ISP" in the top, and "My Work Network" in the bottom.
The autopick within a connection never seemed to work for me, but the above works fine. In order to send an MMS, you must first disconnect from your GPRS/EDGE connection (alternatively, MMS will be the first to connect when recovering from a dropped data connection).
Hope that helps, if not just run the provisioning cab...hell-of-a-lot easier and I don't see what "other" things are added, all it does is set up the network connections and all the settings, nothing more, nothing less. Filename of the one I've been using for quite some time is T-Mobile_USA_Internet_UNI_SA_V2.0.CAB
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on the contrary. when you open the cab you find all sorts of new favorites, changed home page, setup.dlls, and other customizing crap.
i've tried your way in the past. it does work. but i also know there is a way to get the auto pick to work. it has worked in the past. i just cant figure it out again.
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on the contrary. when you open the cab you find all sorts of new favorites, changed home page, setup.dlls, and other customizing crap.
i've tried your way in the past. it does work. but i also know there is a way to get the auto pick to work. it has worked in the past. i just cant figure it out again.
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Dunno which CAB you've been looking at, but the one I use has 4 files: an XML file for network settings, registry settings file (for MMS), and Check/Recheck executables for installation. No changes to favs, home page, etc...
The is the same one I've been using since grabbing from I-Mate's website back in Oct. '05.
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Dunno which CAB you've been looking at, but the one I use has 4 files: an XML file for network settings, registry settings file (for MMS), and Check/Recheck executables for installation. No changes to favs, home page, etc...
The is the same one I've been using since grabbing from I-Mate's website back in Oct. '05.
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well the ones from tmobile's extended rom do. and quite simply put, i dont want to use a provisioning cab.
now the question at hand is... has anyone gotten the auto pick to work with manual configuration and not with provisioning cabs
Odd wap.voicestream.com works fine for me for my edge connection. Makes it real easy to send an MMS no dropping connections or anything. I've used the above mention method using two different settings before works fine but not the autopick method.
Hiya
Ok so ive had my x1 a couple of weeks now and love it to bits, however im really struggling with mms and wondered if anyone else has the same problem or if theres a tweak for it
Im on three network in the UK, and have got all the right settings on it .. I can send sms, and can connect to the internet via my network, but when I try to send an mms it will let me compose it but wont send. It just sits in my outbox looking pretty but refuses to go!
Any help would be greatly appreciated .. thanks
Mella
Go into you sms\mms folder (where your sms's are)
Go Menu. MMS Options
Goto the Servers tab and check that it is using the correct mms server
You have to create a new connection for mms, and set it to default for mms so it changes connection when sending mms messeges
Hiya
Yeh I have the three mms settings and they are set as default, but it still wont go .. any more ideas guys?
Check the following, but change telstra to three:
Go to Start, Settings, Connections, then Connections again.
Go to the Advanced tab
Choose Select Network
Change the second drop down box to Telstra MMS
Make sure you soft reset after making these changes
If you are still stuck give the x1 support hotline a call. They have fixed a few problems for me.
Most operators have a service that sends you the mms settings through a text message. The phone can then automatically pick that up and config it.
Some operators don't support the X1 yet though.
Hi buzz, thanks for getting back to me again!
It doesnt give me that option in that box unfortunately .. I debranded my phone using the uk rom
I dont get how it will let me browse the internet using three internet settings yet not send an mms through them, and ive checked my mms settings so many times. Aggghhhrrr its driving me crazy!
Ooooh wheres the help line number? I think thats going to be my next option ..
Angelusz said:
Most operators have a service that sends you the mms settings through a text message. The phone can then automatically pick that up and config it.
Some operators don't support the X1 yet though.
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Yes unfortunately three dont support this phone so will not send me the settings, but ive found the settings online aswell as checking through my previous phone so im 99% sure im doing it right
Ok, you need to make a new connection in that menu for the second drop down box.
The first drop down box should say Three Internet (or similar).
Click the "new" button below the second drop down box and use these settings:
3 MMS settings
Access Point Name: mms.three.co.uk
Username: blank
Password: blank
Gateway IP (proxy) address: 217.171.129.2
MMS Message (Relay) Server URL: http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
Then go into your SMS/MMS inbox and check that 3 MMS is your default mms server.
Last of all... soft reset and you should be right.
Woohoo it worked it sent it!
My last phone wasnt half as technical as this so its taking me a while to learn the ins and outs, but im determined to perservere as I love it so much.
Buzz your an angel .. Thank you so much for your help
Mella
No worries.
Make sure you keep these settings somewhere (especially if you are flashing new roms).
It took me a while to get my mms settings working (no thanks to telstra), but I'm always happy to help.
Hi guys, I been browsing the forum for a while - decided to sign up now due to getting hold of my first smart phone.
I've set up my email account (pop3) it worked the first time yesterday, received and sent emails.
Now today, when I receive I get nothing, no messages, and when I send one i get this message:
"cannot connect with current connection settings. the change your connection setting, tap settings."
clicking on settings brings up the t-mobile settings tab etc, but I'm not sure what to change here as I'm pretty new to all this!
and I'm just wondering if I need to change anything - as it worked yesterday but not now even though i haven't changed anything.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
I used to get all kinds of hassle like this with my HTC Advantage. It would work perfectly for a while, then it would not allow access, so I'd have to re-input the SAME settings all over and it would seem to work again (fortunately, it seems to be pretty well behaved nowadays!)
So long as your pop3/send/recieve/SMTP settings are all good [make sure that login names etc are all as your email provider states, usually full email address and password and smtp/outgoing *DOES* require authentication]- sounds like you might want to check on your connection settings (I assume that the internet is not working either? Or MSN messenger?) B4 going into settings you will need to find out EXACTLY what your APN (access point name) address is for your specific carrier (there are typically several ones per carrier - usually one for contract and one for PAYG) and the user name and password.
Then check/update your connection settings. You can go and edit the existing setting - you will need to choose a name for it (there should be a default) and then you may have to 'select a modem' - typically I select 'Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)', as it works best for me [on another device however, I select GPRS only, as there is poor 3G reception here in the office and it causes the connection to find a 3G signal and try to connect to it, to no avail though and thus it drops the connection - but hopefully you wont experience this!]
Next update your: 'APN' and the 'User Name' and 'password' (those 3 things will be supplied by your carrier) and save it. And HOPEFULLY that should do it - it can get a little more complicated than that, but I'm hoping that you dont have to get into setting up work networks/proxy servers etc - I can do that and have some data for it, but I'm not very good at exaplaining it I'm afraid it's something I've learnt on a trial and error basis, as I'm not a techy/network specialist AT ALL
HTH
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thanks for your reply!
as far i know all my email info is fine, but I shall try again after work. only details I might have to get is t mobiles. might have to look on the net. but i'll try what you've suggested.
but the net is working fine! I'm using it now...will give it some trail and error.
thanks, and till later!
In which network are you? And which country?
Hello - I'm on t-mobile in the UK
I'm thinking of doing a total hard reset - now my googlemail isn't working ! and that was yesterday.
Just for good orders sake:
T-Mobile APN Configuration
For both contract and pay-as-you-go T-Mobile customers in UK the following APN settings are used:
Name: TMobile GPRS
GPRS APN address: general.t-mobile.uk
Username : user
Password: wap
- other settings can be left blank.
Apologies if you already know how to do this, but I just checked on the HD2 and you do the following;
GOTO the Settings tab (last one).
Hit MENU (bottom right)
Hit CONNECTIONS icon
Hit CONNECTIONS
Select (if you're accurate enough.... ) 'Manage Existing Connections' and follow the path - you may want to just re-input the above to make sure you know all is well then save it (finish)
Just a thought.
Thanks alot for that blackblade, i can use that as reference, will try again in abit - I've done a phone reset for now.
cheers fella. very helpful.
well guys, I've tried checking and changing those details - still no joy. Not sure what to do with this now to be honest!
Not sure if you've resolved this, but I had the same problem with t-mobile.
You need to deselect "use proxy server to connect to the internet" in the t-mobile internet settings, for some reason this gets selected on set up. Once you've done this you should be away!