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Help - Battery Drain excessive

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I know this is going to be made especially difficult with all the different software/combo's that can be loaded, but I have to post this up and see if any one else has seen this and if it might be hardware or software.
I have a HERMS 100 (8525). I first got the phone in April with WM5 (don't know which build they might have been on then) and which ever Radio was coming on them then. My battery would usually last 2 days with my avg use.
This has been the case threw upgrades until the last 2-3 months. I upgraded From one version of WM6 to VP3G's 2.X build of WM6 and I upgraded the radio to which ever version was the newest at that time (maybe 1.47 or 1.50). I Noticed a sudden drop in battery life, but the phone pretty much always made it a full day even with high use, so I didn't think much of it. I did notice about this time that sometimes the phone would alarm me and say it had 20% battery remaining, but if I rebooted the phone it would say 80 or 90% power remaining when it came back on and work fine the rest of the day.
The following has been over the last month. I upgraded to VP3G's 3.0 and again later to 3.6 and again to 3.62. I noticed the battery continued to degrade throughout this time. So I upgraded the radio to 1.54. The battery continued to go down hill at an even rate, but I noticed something else, the battery would not take very long to charge, but was dying faster and faster.
Well I started tracking and experimenting. Starting last week (no change in software or ROM's for the last 2 or 3 weeks) the battery would rarely make it through the day even when the phone was not in use any during the day (Granted I get no cell service at my desk at work, but I never have even back when the phone would last 2 days searching for signal). Most days last week it wouldn't make it 5 hours from being unplugged even when the phone wasn't in use. I decided to run the battery all the way down to where it wouldn't even turn the phone on anymore as I had heard sometimes you needed to do that after a rom upgrade. It did not help, but I noticed that the phone said the battery was fully charged within 2 hours from being completely dead.
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Today was the worst, I unplugged it after being plugged in all night. Unplugged it at 6:45am. I did not use the phone, it just stayed in standby (I hadn't even taken it out of standby any today. I am at work with no service (When I say no service, I don't mean sometimes it finds something, I mean no cell service from any carrier makes it past 10 feet of the front doors entering the building and I am about 150 feet from the closest wall to the outside). I grab the phone at around 10:30am to check on a meeting notice, clicked on the phone to wake up and the battery alarm alerted and the battery said I only had 20% power remaining. In 5 minutes of doing what I was doing the battery had gone down to 10% remaining (so the phone went from lost 90% of it's power, never being used in less then 4 hours). I went back to my desk, plugged the phone back in and within an hour I noticed the amber light on the front that I relate it to telling me it's charging had turned green, I unplugged it and checked it and the battery said it was full 100%. Could the battery really charge that fast?
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I know this would be easier if I could remember what radio and what version of WM5 came on this phone and loaded it back on and I am in the middle of downgrading the radio since I had ran WM6 with no battery issues separate from WM5 until I did that one upgrade with the radio. I guess I am curious if this could be a hardware (phone or battery) where it's not charging fully or if this seems to be a software issue.
I know all the factors that can be involved make this hard, but thanks for any responses you guys can give.

ok, how about this one, Is my battery screwed? I notice while I am using the phone the battery gets really hot. Today it did the same thing of all of a sudden saying I had 10% power after only using it for 5 mintues, rebooted the phone and now I am back to 70%.

Hi,
There's a lot on here about this problem. Have you read the wiki?
Some solutions you might try:
- turn wifi off.
- turn off all beams
- put in the fake server trick.
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise
- invest in a new battery.
WB

Thanks, I have gone through the wiki Continuasly since I got the phone in April, but with all the stuff out there, I could have easily missed something.
- turn wifi off - Never turn it on
- turn off all beams - Beaming disabled
- put in the fake server trick - Have to research that one
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server - have to check, don't have exchange server setup. I do have it checking emails every 15 minutes, but I never had any issues with that setting and the battery lasting a couple of days
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise - X button set to close not minimize and I often check it to see whats running.
- invest in a new battery. - Will be doing that next. Just waiting to see what case I might get for Christmas.
Thanks again, I will research those other items.

I had a similar problem where the stock battery would only ever last for ~7-8 hours - even on standby. I got an extended life 3000mAh battery and that managed to last for about 14 hours.
I had a talk to HTC and they agreed to warranty claim it. I'm still waiting for it back... It was sent back to them on 14/11, and I'm still waiting.

Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB

wacky.banana said:
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
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Well I turned off email checks last night and disabled the radio this morning so it wouldn't search for signal when coming to work and set the phone on my desk. I never used it this morning, just had it sitting on my desk in standby, until about 4 hours after I took it off the charger and the phone buzzed me and when I checked the phone the battery said 0% remaining and the phone cut off a few seconds later (now I am sure if I would have turned it back on the battery would say something like 70%, but I didn't do that this time). I left the phone off and plugged it into the computer to charge, the LED on the front come on amber for about 20 minutes then went to green. I turned the phone on and it says 100%. I don't see how the battery went from 0 to 100 in a matter of 20 minutes.
I did a lot of searching the last couple of days and phone issues from email to bad manufactured batteries (which I happen to have the brand someone suggested as a bad one), I also saw people pointing out do the fake server trick, yet I can't find a single time where anyone said what the trick is or how to do it. Not even in the WIKI where the trick was mentioned as a possible fix (or google for that matter, just the same words first posted in a thread here about it).
So, how do you do this server trick?
I plan to get a new battery after Christmas at any rate.

Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338421&highlight=fake+server+trick
I was having the same battery drain problem (less than 8 hrs on a full charge), I did the fake server and turned off auto day light saving time checking the clock settings, I now get 12 - 15 hrs on a full charge.
I'm running vp3G's 3.62.3 AT&T ROM with radio 1.54.07.00

Thanks! I was just finishing flashing a new ROM when I saw this. I did the fake server trick, but this rom doesn't have the Dya Light Savings time option where the instructions say it should be. Maybe that's all removed by this rom. TIme will tell.
Thanks again.

@ Firehawkns
hey buddy!!
I am using a JasJam for the last 2 months. i dont know if my reply is useful to you or not. As far as battery life is concerned am impressed with mine. Am using TNT's latest ROM and my radio version is 1.54.07.00. I use my phone all day with couple of calls that last about 2-3 min each. But every night I get calls from my gf, to whom I talk for 3 hours straight(mostly starting from 11pm to 2 am) and every day I put my phone to charge after I finish the call. So after finishing the call I still have 50% of battery. Moreover our call starts right after I leave work at 11pm so by the time I reach home which is around 11.30pm my phone connects to wifi too. So all the time am on the call as well as an active wifi connection.
So as per my experience the battery life is cool. So try TNT ROM!!!

Interestingly enough, now I've got my phone back from the warranty claim, it's only drawing 81mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT. Before sending it back, it was drawing ~180mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT.
This will just about double the battery life that I get in theory...
Install BatteryStatus on your device and see what it tells you.

That is a cool program.
First off I really hope it isn't the phone, for one it's my third one from Cingular since the first two died within 2 weeks (back in may), second it's got one big gash down the corner where it came out of the holder and hit the road one day. I think that would be just enough reason for them to not do anything with it.
Anyway, I am going to replace the battery because I can't figure out why the phone is doing things like saying it has 20% batt remaing, then I reboot and it goes to 70%. I am hoping this is a battery issue. So far the phone has been unplugged for a tad less then one hour, has not been used and the battery meter is on 90%.
Battery Status is a kick butt program and I plan to do some searching today to see if people have benchmarked there ratings/draw. I notice mine jumps randomly. With wifi, BT, all programs all terminated, backlight on the lowest it will go and radio has one bar 3g sometimes, two bars Edge sometimes, but didn't change during watching this list below, but the MA does this every 5 second refresh:
111--190----125-----109----250----210-----140----135----226---111---etc.
I am currently running a barebones fresh flash WM6 rom with nothing installed except Cingulars media net/ISP settings, radio is 1.47.10. Going to try 1.50 today I think.
I turned the radio off just now and the MA went down (expected) to 84 and is jumping between that and 104. The battery has dropped to 80% since I listed 90 above. The phone has now been unplugged for right at an hour. Also it might be interesting to note that the little battery percent/bar icon on the "Battery Status" software once in a while will display -1% like it is right now, the phones battery display says 80% and when I tap the battery icon on battery status it jumps to 80%.
Anyway, I am just listing points since this thread is here, I know I need to replace the battery first before any additional insight can be brought forward.
Thanks everyone.

Hmm.. On my Schaps 4.22full, radio 1.54.00 on good reception (on Finnish network) I get around 30 mA with GSM and 3G when idling(no wifi, no bluetooth, no beam, backlight around halfway). With airplane mode on I get around 28 mA. Tried with backlight dimmest and the drain was 15mA on GSM network.
Usually I put the 3G off so the battery would last longer.
The phone takes more power when searching the network so it would be a good idea trying to switch the phone part off at your office.

Well, looks like it was indeed the battery. Over the last week the phone would randomly shut off (about 4 times a day), the battery would be at 10% within 4 hours even if the phone hadn't been used, and while using the phone you could almost watch the battery go from 90% to 30% within a 5 minute talk time, reboot the phone and it would be back at 80%.
Put in the new battery yesterday after charging over night and the phone not only didn't shut off at any point, but I had 60% power remaining by the end of the day (with some data and voice use).
The old battery was a Dynapack from China, that I had read on here is prone to defects.
Thanks for the help everyone, wish I would have gotten a new batt sooner.

How long does YOUR battery last...?!

Now, I know that it depends on what programs are running, like... whether you have any minimized or in the background, but on an average 1500 mAh/3.7V battery... what is the amount of use time that one can expect...?
Let's start a thread on this subject... listing the type of battery, approximate age of same, the names of the files/programs you run & use in a given day, and the amount of hours of overall use you get before you have to recharge or switch it over to a new/fresh battery. This way, we'll all have a better idea as to what programs really drain the phones, such as when you leave the WiFi and/or Bluetooth "on" all the time - waiting to be used (a sure guarantee to have a dead battery in a matter of hours).
We can subtitle this one under "The Cost of Staying Connected" (not including air-time charges or monthly fees).

i think my battery life is terrible... but its understandable. usually i run wifi and phone all day long.. the only reason i run wifi on all the time is because i have a feeling everytime i don't... somehow i get charged for using evdo (from bell in canada)... but i dont?? its really weird because i used to always get these random charges.. but ever since i kept my wifi on all day everything is all good. i have the original battery that came with my ppc 6700.. and i use the phone around 40-70 minutes of talk time. no real apps running but a few games of solitaire here and there. but if i were to talk non stop it only seems to last like 1hr
my battery life is like 10 hours and i always have to charge it when i get home from work or school or ill be doomed the next day

Since upgrading to WM6 (thanks helmi), my battery life has found NEW life. I used to have to charge it everyday: no wifi, 50% brightness, screen off in < 1min, etc. Since upgrading, I can run it at 100% brightness, screen off in 2min, and I don't have to charge it every day.
This is with the factory battery, and an eBay replacement sometimes used.

always running: freestyl (flashlite), sms threader, mbutton
phone is usually locked with s2u2
most use it usually gets is me checking the time
update rom from verizon, .net 3.5
ever since i updated the rom, it seems like i only get <24 hours per full charge (battery purchased less than a month ago)

w/o wifi or bt i get about 3 days however it depends on what version of windows are you running have you guys updated to the new 6.1 or 6.5 biulds?

My battery life its very short but, i use my apache with core play at my car with my kids plus the wifi, and blue with hand free, soo i've to conected every day, and i'm use 2batterys

original battery... i got 3 days on standby.. and 2 days in normal call usage...
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with wifi my battery gets drained to the bone in 40 minutes LOL
thats all =D

About twenty minutes. I know I need a new battery >_>
... that and that I'm surprised I've got over 240 hours clocked in the lifetime call timer.

Using a 2600mAh 3.7v Battery
I had my extended battery for about 2 months now.....
TCPMP:Battery life is close to 5 hours on the lowest brightness level using headphones & on speaker mode I get about 3 1/2 hours.
Making Calls: I sometimes spend about 2 to 3 hours on the phone & that leaves the battery to about 70% or 60%.
Wifi: I don't use it for a very long time, but when I do it could be about 1 hour and that can leave my battery to about 80% to 70% when done.
Videogames: I use mainly the Morpheus(emu) usually about 20 to 30 mins and only seems to leave it close to 90%..
With random use I normally have to charge the battery every 2 or 3 days... I play with the phone quite a bit tho! Mostly text messaging (turning it on & off about 20 to 30 times daily).
With my 2 normal batteries? I think they need to be discarded soon lol!!!!!!! Wifi will deplete them(each) in about 4 or 5 mins tops!!! TCPMP about 10mins(screen on at its lowest with speaker) & 15 mins max(with headphones & screen at its lowest brightness)... Phone Calls? about 20mins tops(with the screen turned off)!!!!
So.... I strongly recommend the extended battery on Ebay for about $22(shipping included) so that you can enjoy the phone alot more!!!
I try not to keep the phone on the charger until the battery has depleted to about 20% when the warning comes on and fully charge it always!

HTC Touch = BAD Battery Life (Help)

I've had my HTC Touch on CDMA/Bell Canada for about half a year now. I love the phone but the battery life just sucks. I can't get through a full day without having to plug in. Where I work and where I live the CDMA signal is weak. My phone is constantly flipping back and forth between X1 and EVDO and voice calls are not very reliable.
I know things like Push mail, GPS...and other data agressive applications will drain the battery, however even when I turn everything off except for the phone itself I can't get through a fully day.
I suspect my phone is constantly busy trying to maintain a connection to the cell network. Does anyone have any tips on how I could help get better battery life?
Leon.

lbloo said:
I've had my HTC Touch on CDMA/Bell Canada for about half a year now. I love the phone but the battery life just sucks. I can't get through a full day without having to plug in. Where I work and where I live the CDMA signal is weak. My phone is constantly flipping back and forth between X1 and EVDO and voice calls are not very reliable.
I know things like Push mail, GPS...and other data agressive applications will drain the battery, however even when I turn everything off except for the phone itself I can't get through a fully day.
I suspect my phone is constantly busy trying to maintain a connection to the cell network. Does anyone have any tips on how I could help get better battery life?
Leon.
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It is very hard to provide you with any help when we really don't know what you have installed and running on your phone. Some plugins can drain your battery while they are running - EG - WeatherPanel - Try not to let this program keep running if you have it installed - especially with animated weather icons. Reduce the brightness of your display screen if you can manage that. Make sure that your display is shutting off as well. Keeping the display on will surely drain your battery. Set it to shut off after so many seconds of inactivity. Take a look at your task manager to make sure that you don't have many programs running in the background - and set your task manager to actualy close programs when you tap on the x as it is default setting to just minimize your apps and not close them. If they are all running in the backgroung, you will surely see battery drain.

With a bare bones configuration my battery would last around 10 hours before I had to plug in. All I had running was basically my phone and some light web surfing.
I've since loaded up my phone with a apps/plug-ins and my battery last about 5 hours now sometimes less. I am running some apps which do things in the background:
-Weather Panel, no animated graphics (Auto update every 6 hours)
-HTC HUB (Auto update every 6 hours)
-Push Email (Zimbra mail, looks like Exchange)
-Pull Email (Gmail) every 30 minutes
Even if I can get all these applications to be much less power hungry, I'll get at most 10 hours. I'm hoping to get multiple days of battery life, not just hours.
While on holiday I turned off the phone, went into Flight mode for a week, but still used GPS on occassion. My batteries then lasted days!
Thanks for your suggestions about those apps.

I can almost go more than half a day, which is enough to get me from my house, to work (or wherever I go), and back home. I'm thinking I should get a spare charger for my office though.
But I have running:
FlexMail, with 2 IMAP accounts, and Live account
Palringo or Live Messenger (depends which ROM I'm using !)
Some Opera browsing
Occasional GPS
Some MP3's
And the obvious phone calls
Ohh, and when I get bored, some Kevtris!

I leave work at 4pm, and when I arive at work the following day at 7am, I'm usually at 20% battery life, and that's with it being plugged in via usb for at least 3-5 hours during the evening. Barebones flash, with SPB Mobile Shell 2.0, and that's about it. It's a bummer, having to stay close to a usb port or wall outlet.
I did notice, my normal power consumption is 150-250mAH, however when I plug in to usb, it jumps to 400-500mAH, sometimes higher. That is with activesync or without, doesn't seem to make a difference.

Well, I don't know about Zimbra, but I know the SEVEN push service absolutely *destroyed* my battery life. I just set my phone to check my Gmail every 5 min, and it's good enough for me, with much better battery life.
That said, your problem is your location. Your phone will burn a lot of juice if you work in a basement or dead zone trying to find towers. There's not really anything you can do about it, other than turn off the phone radio when you know you're going to be out of range, but of course, that defeats the purpose of having a cell phone.
Get a new job, get a 2nd battery, or plug it in at work. Smart phones don't have great battery life to begin with, and if you are getting a weak signal, you are just out of luck.
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Or, you can try one of those Sprint base stations. You may not be able to set one up at work, but you can at least do it at home. Should help some.

I got an extended battery (Seidio 2000 mAh) and my phone lasts for more than 24 hours now, probably 2 days if i let it go without a charge long enough.
Like right now I have had a bunch of phone calls, done a bunch of texting, played some kevtris and my phone has a lot of stuff installed on it. It's been off the charger since 9:30AM and its 4:40PM now and the battery is at 81%.
Before I got the extended battery my phone would probably be at less than 50% at this point in time. The extended battery does make the phone A BIT bulkier, but its really not that big of a difference to me.

People complaining about battery life

I honestly want to know what you expect.
I woke up at 4AM this morning, and it's not 8PM, and my battery is on 61%. I've done e-mailing, made phone calls, received phone calls, texted, surfed the web a bit waiting for a buddy to meet me at the mall, and Shazamed a couple of songs that came on the radio in the car.
How long do you expect a battery that'll fit in the HD2's slim form to power its extremely demanding hardware?

All expect is a functional and practical device.
I bought this as a work phone. It isn't always practical to be carrying around a phone charger.
"Before we start the meeting, do you mind if I plug my phone into your wall socket?"
Having to plan around charging points on a long work day on the move defeats the point of a mobile phone.

I understand what you're saying about expecting too much, but perhaps phone companies should consider not making such poweful phones until there is a battery powerful enough to support them. It's all well and good having such great technology, but if you can't use it how you want/should what's the point? Just a thought.
Personally the poor battery life doesn't bother me too much, but then I'm not out and about all day.

CHIP STAXMAN said:
All expect is a functional and practical device.
I bought this as a work phone. It isn't always practical to be carrying around a phone charger.
"Before we start the meeting, do you mind if I plug my phone into your wall socket?"
Having to plan around charging points on a long work day on the move defeats the point of a mobile phone.
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With the latest radio and an efficient ROM, all that is unnecessary (even with the stock rom and latest radio I bet).
I usually charge it overnight, but forgot to do it last night.
I removed the charging cable yesterday at 8AM, made about 20-25 minutes worth of phone calls, 20 minutes surfing on internet + a few e-mails, around a dozen picture, 10 minutes GPS (iGO8) and messing around with the phone a bit from time to time.
It's now 10AM, so 26 hours later, and the battery is still at 75% (haven't put it on a charger at all, not even in the car while using the GPS).
I wouldn't really call that "having to plan around charging points".
I agree that during a busy work day, you could have more phone calls, but still, you should have plenty battery left (especially if you don't forget to charge it overnight like I did )

Just wanted to share with CHIP how I get around a busy work schedule with the phone.
The key thing is the USB sync/charge cable, when at my desk I sometimes plug the phone into the notebook dock via USB for juice, and it doesn't hurt that it's also syncing with the laptop.
On the move, I've got a USB socket adapter thingamajig for my car's cigarette lighter socket, so if the phone is low, it gets plugged in.
Furthermore if I get the chance to plug the laptop in like in a long meeting, the phone also gets plugged into the laptop via USB for more charging goodness.
It will probably kill the battery quicker this way, but it sure beats not being to use the phone at all, and besides, we did buy a phone that can have it's battery replaced easily right?
in my neck of the woods, you can get a third party USB sync/charge cable for about USD$9...

Spike15 said:
I honestly want to know what you expect.
I woke up at 4AM this morning, and it's not 8PM, and my battery is on 61%. I've done e-mailing, made phone calls, received phone calls, texted, surfed the web a bit waiting for a buddy to meet me at the mall, and Shazamed a couple of songs that came on the radio in the car.
How long do you expect a battery that'll fit in the HD2's slim form to power its extremely demanding hardware?
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y well you are lucky i go out of home, after 10 mins of listening to music it's already on 95%. I'm eagerly awaiting the new battery.

Mithrandir007 said:
With the latest radio and an efficient ROM, all that is unnecessary (even with the stock rom and latest radio I bet).
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What would you class as an efficient ROM ?
I find the battery life on this phone abysmal .. To the point i switch off all wireless services except the one im using at the time to enable me to have any time on the phone at all .. Surfing the web on wifi with the other wireless services on i can practically watch the battery life decrease every few mins ..
Something is amiss .. I upgraded the radio to the 2.07.51.05 version but ended up going back to 2.06.50.04 as i found it to be better ..
Whats your profile for enabling wireless services, do you have 3G enabled all the time, Wifi, Bluetooth ?
Cheers

How much battery do you lose over night? On my phone it drops about 12-15% in 8 hours (radio off, flight mode). To me, it seems too much...

Spike15 said:
I honestly want to know what you expect.
I woke up at 4AM this morning, and it's not 8PM, and my battery is on 61%. I've done e-mailing, made phone calls, received phone calls, texted, surfed the web a bit waiting for a buddy to meet me at the mall, and Shazamed a couple of songs that came on the radio in the car.
How long do you expect a battery that'll fit in the HD2's slim form to power its extremely demanding hardware?
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there is a problem with battery life,there are lots of problems with this phone..currently my opera browser stopped working,the sms is still not fixed..
the fact that you have no problem with your device does not mean it's the same for everyone..

It's definitely ROM and Radio dependant. The ROM I'm using at the moment is incredible. Comebined with the latest 2.07 radio and my battery lasts for ages.
I was only getting about 10 hours with very light use and push email on when I was on 1.48. Now I'm on a 1.66 based ROM and the battery last about 300% as long.
I'm currently on about 26 hours since last charge and still got 38% battery. That's with push email (peak times 7am til 11pm), lots of surfing, about 20 mins talking and some texts. Over night I lose about 1-2% max.
I'm telling you, with the latest software, this is a different phone. Also it seems like it sorts out the SMS bug too. Upgrading makes this phone everything I wanted it to be when I got it 3 months ago.

Interesting ... I have been using the 1.66 series also and battery is poor.. i need to keep track of proper usage to really see whats going on given i use no push email either .. Im wondering if it could be due to the fact location is on and also the radio is looking for 3g when im in a gprs only location, could all be contributing factors .. gprs data always seems to be connected too ..
Life was simpler with the iPhone (less fun though)

Cass67 said:
Interesting ... I have been using the 1.66 series also and battery is poor.. i need to keep track of proper usage to really see whats going on given i use no push email either .. Im wondering if it could be due to the fact location is on and also the radio is looking for 3g when im in a gprs only location, could all be contributing factors .. gprs data always seems to be connected too ..
Life was simpler with the iPhone (less fun though)
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On the ROM I'm using in the Wireless settings there is an option called 3G - Change to GSM Mode. This drops the connection down to GSM if there isn't a good 3G signal. Also there is a setting in BsBTweaks called PowerSaving that I have turned on. This combined with the fact that the 2.07 Radio gives me about 1 bar better signal everywhere seems to have made this phone perfect for me. Maybe you should start experimenting with some battery saving tweaks like this?
I woulld definitely turn off all the auto download stuff like weather, stocks, time sync, twitter etc (except push mail). I mean how important is it that the weather is up to date 24 hrs a day when you probably only look at it once or twice a day. If you need it you can just press the update now button and within seconds you have it updated anyway.

Mine did behave reasonably well untill I started throwing apps and mods at it as fast as I could to get it to the point where I was happy with it. Lights out last night for me was at 01:30 with 94% charge,bluetooth off,gprs connected and trawling for e's avery 15mins..at 06:30 the battery was down to 41% with no programs showing active on task manager and thats after a tidy up last night with MemMaid as well. Guess who's going to be flashing his first new rom later this week ..

chimpsinties said:
On the ROM I'm using in the Wireless settings there is an option called 3G - Change to GSM Mode. This drops the connection down to GSM if there isn't a good 3G signal. Also there is a setting in BsBTweaks called PowerSaving that I have turned on. This combined with the fact that the 2.07 Radio gives me about 1 bar better signal everywhere seems to have made this phone perfect for me. Maybe you should start experimenting with some battery saving tweaks like this?
I woulld definitely turn off all the auto download stuff like weather, stocks, time sync, twitter etc (except push mail). I mean how important is it that the weather is up to date 24 hrs a day when you probably only look at it once or twice a day. If you need it you can just press the update now button and within seconds you have it updated anyway.
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Yes, i have all auto download stuff off, weather just annoys me with all that moving clouds etc .. Twitter i refresh when i enter the app.
I have Change to GSM enabled. i am presuming this setting will continue to search for a 3g signal though .. Figured this used more power as the radio would be working harder no ?
I have power saving status enabled ..
The 2.07 radio for me i found really made the battery drain, notcibly so.. I moved back to 2.06 as recommended by the Miri page as i was using his rom at that time .. Not bothered to move back to 2.07 yet .. i may do in a day or so once i get a baseline to compare against.
The other night when i was on 2.07 i surfed the web for half an hour and listned to the engadget podcast for an hour, probably half of that with the screen off and i lost around 30-40% battery .. I blamed the 2.07 as i had better battery before i moved to that i thought..
I need to analyze this rom over the next day or so, i got the device 5 days ago and every day since i got it i have flashed one or more roms / radios so ive not really had a stable config to benchmark, what i do know is that i have the above settings enabled in all roms .. Ill be trying not to flash for the next couple of days to see whats what ..
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terrytpot said:
Mine did behave reasonably well untill I started throwing apps and mods at it as fast as I could to get it to the point where I was happy with it. Lights out last night for me was at 01:30 with 94% charge,bluetooth off,gprs connected and trawling for e's avery 15mins..at 06:30 the battery was down to 41% with no programs showing active on task manager and thats after a tidy up last night with MemMaid as well. Guess who's going to be flashing his first new rom later this week ..
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Why do you need it scanning for emails every 15 mins while you're asleep. Why not change it to manaully download them in off peak hours (1am-6:30am) that way they'll still be waiting for you when you first wake up but not wasting battery checking while you're asleep.

Cass67 said:
Yes, i have all auto download stuff off, weather just annoys me with all that moving clouds etc .. Twitter i refresh when i enter the app.
I have Change to GSM enabled. i am presuming this setting will continue to search for a 3g signal though .. Figured this used more power as the radio would be working harder no ?
I have power saving status enabled ..
The 2.07 radio for me i found really made the battery drain, notcibly so.. I moved back to 2.06 as recommended by the Miri page as i was using his rom at that time .. Not bothered to move back to 2.07 yet .. i may do in a day or so once i get a baseline to compare against.
The other night when i was on 2.07 i surfed the web for half an hour and listned to the engadget podcast for an hour, probably half of that with the screen off and i lost around 30-40% battery .. I blamed the 2.07 as i had better battery before i moved to that i thought..
I need to analyze this rom over the next day or so, i got the device 5 days ago and every day since i got it i have flashed one or more roms / radios so ive not really had a stable config to benchmark, what i do know is that i have the above settings enabled in all roms .. Ill be trying not to flash for the next couple of days to see whats what ..
Cheers
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On one of the other battery posts someone said that you need to give the battery a couple of discharge/charge cycles down to 1% with a new ROM/Radio in order for it to accurately be able to predict its charge loss. Don't know how much truth is in this but it might be better to stick with one for a couple of days at least before changing so you can get an accurate comparison.

Ok, yeah ill give it a couple of days to see whats what before i really damn this beast and have to buy the fat extendo battery with kickstand

Cass67 said:
What would you class as an efficient ROM ?
I find the battery life on this phone abysmal .. To the point i switch off all wireless services except the one im using at the time to enable me to have any time on the phone at all .. Surfing the web on wifi with the other wireless services on i can practically watch the battery life decrease every few mins ..
Something is amiss .. I upgraded the radio to the 2.07.51.05 version but ended up going back to 2.06.50.04 as i found it to be better ..
Whats your profile for enabling wireless services, do you have 3G enabled all the time, Wifi, Bluetooth ?
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The rom I found the most efficient is the one I'm using right now (XannyTech Pandora 1.1, though I've read that 1.3 is even better), and my radio is 2.06.51.07.
I have 3G/HSDPA enabled all the time checking for e-mail every 30 minutes, and the other services every hour (except during the night, where it's set to manual).
Wifi and Bluetooth are disabled unless I need them, though (I think that leaving them enabled would make a big difference for my battery life).
I usually surf the web using HSDPA instead of Wifi (since it's pretty fast here), unless I have to download bigger files
I'm not sure how much battery it uses overnight since I usually sync it and leave it charging (only forgot a few times) but I'm pretty sure it was under 5% last night.
Changing the radio and ROM really did make a huge change for me.
The same situation when I was on 1.48 stock + stock radio, my phone would probably be around 20-30% battery instead of 75% at 10AM this morning.
Btw, as an update, I've made about 10 mins of phone calls, and surfed the web over 3G for 10 minutes since this morning, and the battery is now at 68% (3:30PM), so it's been off the charger for 31H30 now.

d4v0r said:
How much battery do you lose over night? On my phone it drops about 12-15% in 8 hours (radio off, flight mode). To me, it seems too much...
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I had the phone on in airplane mode, en route back from Brisbane (12 hour flight) and listened to music intermittently, and the battery wasn't drained that much. After another flight (2.75 hours) to Vancouver, the battery was still over 50%.
To be honest, I'm actually impressed with the battery life..

Mithrandir007 said:
The rom I found the most efficient is the one I'm using right now (XannyTech Pandora 1.1, though I've read that 1.3 is even better), and my radio is 2.06.51.07.
I have 3G/HSDPA enabled all the time checking for e-mail every 30 minutes, and the other services every hour (except during the night, where it's set to manual).
Wifi and Bluetooth are disabled unless I need them, though (I think that leaving them enabled would make a big difference for my battery life).
I usually surf the web using HSDPA instead of Wifi (since it's pretty fast here), unless I have to download bigger files
I'm not sure how much battery it uses overnight since I usually sync it and leave it charging (only forgot a few times) but I'm pretty sure it was under 5% last night.
Changing the radio and ROM really did make a huge change for me.
The same situation when I was on 1.48 stock + stock radio, my phone would probably be around 20-30% battery instead of 75% at 10AM this morning.
Btw, as an update, I've made about 10 mins of phone calls, and surfed the web over 3G for 10 minutes since this morning, and the battery is now at 68% (3:30PM), so it's been off the charger for 31H30 now.
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Thanks, at least this gives me some hope .. I usually would use 3g for my web surfing but on O2 uk carrier they have no 3g in my area, it will be like this until i get the HD2 unlocked and get on Vodafone, so for the moment im using wifi ..

Really poor battery.

Hi guys, please bear with us on this one.
This is my 2nd Android phone, I used to have an Hero about 6 months ago. i really liked the front end but the screen was small so I upgraded to an HD2 which I still have. On the HD2 the screen is huge but Win Mobile lets it down a bit. The marketplace is expensive and very limited and the amount of apps for Win Mobile seem to be getting less and less, especially supproting the 800x480 WVGA screen on the HD2.
Anyway I was due an upgrade and Orange offered me the X10 for £20 which i couldn't refuse. I am trying to like the phone but the biggest issue for me is the battery. I did the usual of leaving it plugged in for 16 hours as recommended by orange etc. If the phone is on standby I seem to get around 8 hours and the battery will be down to about 40% remaining charge. That is on standby with the top button pressed and the phone on a black screen. This is really poor considering the HD2 can run almost 2 days on standby before loosing 60% of its charge.
Anybody got any suggestions on how to improve this? Would it be wise for me to do the debrand as mentioned in other threads? It is currently on build R1FA014.
Thanks for the help.

The battery will improve in time, after a few weeks of use the X10 will loose 1-2% of battery each 2 hours (at least my X10 R1FA016 and two of my friends X10 R1FA014 do). This is with 3G on, wifi sometimes on, GPS sometimes on. Just give it some time. I think the X10 is one of the best smartphones out there. There is an extensive thread on Power Usage which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657265
In the end it comes down to:
-Give it some time
-Disable auto search for software updates (settings>about phone>update)
-Wifi seems to drain sometimes
-Streaming drains.

Thanks for the pointers Vin87, I have got wifi turned off now but I am at work for the next 7 hours and I only have about 28% charge remaining
I'm going to have a good read through the thread you mentioned all 50+ pages LOL.
I do like the phone and for the cost I am going to keep it and hopefully we will get some new updates soon?

It gets better...way better. 13 hours since my last charge, and it's at 71%. I've been using it every now and then, Facebook, sending emails ect.
Great battery life now!

From a work perspective, I miss the X10 having a dock.
With my G900 each time I returned to my desk,I would throw it the dock and so it was receiving a charge throughout the day, the X10 is more fiddly as you need to play around the the flap and then figure out which way to plug in the mini-USB cable...
I wish they had chosen a better connector than the mini-USB as the standard, as it's not that easy to quickly connect it....
I could almost throw my G900 at the charging cable and it would connect.

Basically (if you want to use the smartphone):
1. In the beginning you will use the phone a lot. Installing apps, trying apps, games, music etc. so the battery drains faster. When you will stop pushing the phone to the limit will be better
2. Wait for a week, the batter will get better.
3. Get a task killer/boot manager and set it to autokill moxier. Don't kill other apps
4. Set facebook/twitter sync at 1h (or more) if you are not a hardcore fan of this social platforms.
5. Email: if you need instant notification there is not much you can do. If you don't need it, disable background sync and sync manually.
6. Disable location using wireless networks.
7. Wifi/3G: if you need instant notifications, wifi will drain your battery pretty fast but if you don't have 3G data plan like me, there is no other choice. If you have a good 3G plan, you can set wifi sleep policy to turn off wifi when phone goes to "sleep". Also, you can use this together with Juice defender free to turn 3G on 2 min every 3min to get notifications so, you will save even more battery.
8. Enable bluetoot/gps only when you use them and keep them disabled when not.
9. Set brightness to manual and around 25% when you are indoor and "sleep time" (screen timeout) to 30sec
10. Oh, i forgot, disable search for software updates and if you didn't install too many things, try a factory defaults. Some people did a SD card format (be sure you save everything first) and reported battery improvement.
If you want to use the dumbphone inside then turn everything off (BT, GPS, 3G, WIFI, Twitter/Facebook, email, background sync, etc.) and your dumbphone will last way longer