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WiFi Poor Signals

Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome or am I the only one with this matter.

Heijdemann said:
Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome of am I the only one with this matter.
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I'm afraid the TyTn (Hermes) does not have a strong reception on wifi. Fine up to 10 metres and if not too much in the way upto 15 or so. Ok generally in and around normal house but if it's Buckingham Palace not too hot. Just the compromise we pay for having to pack in allthe other features I'm afraid.
Mike

I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim

tolson said:
I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim
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Your right. The antenna is along top edge. When in landscape your left hand tends to obscure it.
Mike

The WIFI reception on these devices is exteremly horrible. There must be a problem in the design, as it don't do more than 10 meters. We have a Andes in the house as well and it has no problems at all with wifi reception.
There must be a fix out there. I purchased this device specifically for the wifi .

have you noticed the connector for spar external place on the back of the TYTN? an is found rubberizes near the camera. I have attentively looked at the photos of the inside and I believe that this is related to the form radio and not to the wifi.
I would like so much to realize a connector wifi for external spar (you see PSP wifi connector) even replacing that connector radio with a wifi and connecting a cable on the chip wifi TNETW1250.
the welding of the cable should be made on the chip TNETW3422M.
Is there someone who has photo more detailed of those that are on the forum of xda?

Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...

I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.

Ce said:
I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.
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It's a curious thing - yes I get good reception up to 15 meters then drops off badly. BUT if I'm driving around with wifi on it detects an endless stream of home networks that in many cases must greatly exceed 10/15 meters.
Mike

jeffreycentex said:
Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...
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In my opinion I think you correct with this setting only the interval of the cheksum when connected and not the sensivity of wifi receiver.

[Q] Reception/call & bluetooth dropping

I just ranted on another thread about GPS, so I'll leave that alone. However, I'm starting to get a serious attitude problem. I am now on my 3rd Vibrant and 3rd SIM card. There are so many good things about it, but it's basic functionality as a PHONE is killing me. The signal is horrible. Inside I almost never have any bars. It seems that my bluetooth (Jabra JX10) arbitrarily disconnects both itself and drops the call 2-3 times a day, sometimes more with heavy usage. I could go on, but to cut to the chase, a few questions:
-Is anyone else having or had any of these issues, and are there any settings that can be changed? I thought there may have been a connection to a little message I get from time to time that says "auto update of date and time", which seemed that the call & bluetooth dropped when it showed up, but I disabled that and it still does it
-Is it possible that I need a different/newer version of a bluetooth headset? I realize the Vibrant has something different re: bluetooth (3.0?) than the G1 & MT3G had, but I wouldn't think a newer whiz-bang headset would be needed? -Always hopeful: when FroYo comes out, is it not correct that a new radio will need to be flashed, and if so, could that potentially solve the issues?
Thanks to any & all...

The vibrant signal meter is flat out just bad. HSPDA in my area maxes at 1mbps ive never seen higher than that with any phone in any area of town. with the vibrant in my bedroom with 0 bars on 3G i get 800kbps download and 700 up. I was just on the phone and walked into my kitchen, my nokia n900 would break up or drop a call and, my blackberry would drop calls in there. The vibrant did not drop the call and didnt get choppy at all.
ive only tried the BT once it seemed to work but i didnt use it much.

Signal Issues

Hi there
I got my Desire HD last week from MPD with an upgrade on my o2 contract. Generally it all works pretty well and I'm very happy with the phone, what I have noticed however is that the phone reception is actually worse than it was on my Touch Pro! On my drive home from work I used to be (using a hands free kit) make the odd phone call even though it's a fairly remote office, but with the new phone the reception is at least one bar lower or it can't find any reception meaning I can't make calls.
Anyone else experienced signal issues on any phone network?

I was hoping this wasn't just me, looks like it is though :S

Mine seems as good if not marginally better than some of my previous phones (hd2 - Iphone 4)...
Could be a temp issue with a Cell tower or something ???

My signal is far more shaky than my old Nokia n96. Not sure why yet but the phone seems to have a pretty bad death grip problem. Loses 2 bars of signal and a bar of wifi.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Mine also seems to be worse than my htc magic

Better than my HD2 (Vodafone Impaired OS) and the girlfriends Hero (2.1)

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Hi there
I got my Desire HD last week from MPD with an upgrade on my o2 contract. Generally it all works pretty well and I'm very happy with the phone, what I have noticed however is that the phone reception is actually worse than it was on my Touch Pro! On my drive home from work I used to be (using a hands free kit) make the odd phone call even though it's a fairly remote office, but with the new phone the reception is at least one bar lower or it can't find any reception meaning I can't make calls.
Anyone else experienced signal issues on any phone network?
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Same problem here,
I've tried several simcards from diffirent carriers, no luck though.
I don't know if this solution has come through this board yet, but what i've found out @ some other board is,
Menu > Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Network Mode
this option i've put it on "only gsm" instead "only WCDMA" or "automatic WCDMA/GSM".
for 2 days i've had a pretty good signal without losses, @ the moment i,ve the same probs again, since i am listening MP by earphone.
i will try again without earphone and update this reply asap.
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well, i've put the earphone off and no response, still no phone signal.
a reset will do the thing for me. i't pretty annoying.

Thanks for the response, i'll try the gsm only option and see how it is at work.
If that works the next thing I need to do is get it to stop asking me to choose an alternative network when it can't find o2.

click under the option "network mode" on mobile carriers/providers and then on automatical select.

tbh most phones made out of metal are more sensitive to the so called 'death grip' is the DHD like the legend where the antennas are built into the rubber covers ?
cause when i had the legend reception is good until you hold it in ways that more or less completely block the antenna locations on the legend blocking the top would drop wifi and blocking the bottom cover would drop the mobile reception.
while you notice it i never once had it make me drop a call even in low reception areas. however i would imagine most unibody phones would have similar issues because you know metal tends to shield the antennas

noobdeagle said:
tbh most phones made out of metal are more sensitive to the so called 'death grip' is the DHD like the legend where the antennas are built into the rubber covers ?
cause when i had the legend reception is good until you hold it in ways that more or less completely block the antenna locations on the legend blocking the top would drop wifi and blocking the bottom cover would drop the mobile reception.
while you notice it i never once had it make me drop a call even in low reception areas. however i would imagine most unibody phones would have similar issues because you know metal tends to shield the antennas
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Yes, the antennas are built into the rubber covers

[Q]anyways to boost wi-fi?

i'm like just like 12~15meters from the source but all i get is a tiny dot in the signal, is there an app that can boost the signal of the HD2?
i think I won't try to go the HardwareMod way if there are any
tnx

mengfei said:
i'm like just like 12~15meters from the source but all i get is a tiny dot in the signal, is there an app that can boost the signal of the HD2?
i think I won't try to go the HardwareMod way if there are any
tnx
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wifi is a two way system, you need both the router and the device to have higher power. If one is lower than the other it can only go at the speed of the slower device interfearence will also have an effect, Bluetooth devices, microwaves, power lines, wireless video cameras, hell, most of the wireless gear you can buy uses similar frequencies sooo. However, the big question is why you dont get a reasonable signal 14 meters away, soo, whats between you an the router?
in answer to your question, no, however the HD2 does support 802.11N which on paper should have a stronger signal, if your router supports N then enable it on your device and router and see if thats better, but my money is still on something stuck in the middle thats screwing with the signal
edit, uping the wattage is unlikey to be possible, and would generate significant heat and draw more power,as well as poentially being illegal, hardware mods may be possible but unless you can check out the radio ROM i doubt you'll be able to see whats possible, if anything, in a software sense.

Some hd2s have a hardware defect where all the wifi signals are lower than normal

Really depends what's in those 12 to 15 metres! At home, I struggle being ~2 metres away from my router, but there are 2 walls and the stairs in between. You could try moving your router or setting up another access point.

my wifi worked perfect for two weeks, then the signal got weak, stumped.

thanks for your inputs guys, yes there are walls in our office & i guess our MIS has really limited the transmitting power just in the display room coz even when i'm at the door of that room I only get two bar.

G2 Very Weak WiFi

HI. I had this WiFi problem since I bought the phone like 6-7 months ago.
My previous phone was a Nexus 4. It had good wifi reception. From my apartment I could find like 6-7 routers with +2 signal bars.
My Lg G2 sees only 3 routers, mine and 2 others that are at 1 signal bar or sometimes no signal. I tried to flash other basebands but no improvment. I tried flashing other ROMs.
I now tried to lift the little conectors on the back cover and put a little piece of paper under so i'm sure they connect (i don't know if that's how wifi works because it's working the same with or without the back cover).
What else should I try? Is there something to do or every G2 has signal problems?

I might have a solution for you...
dj_monkeyyy said:
HI. I had this WiFi problem since I bought the phone like 6-7 months ago.
My previous phone was a Nexus 4. It had good wifi reception. From my apartment I could find like 6-7 routers with +2 signal bars.
My Lg G2 sees only 3 routers, mine and 2 others that are at 1 signal bar or sometimes no signal. I tried to flash other basebands but no improvment. I tried flashing other ROMs.
I now tried to lift the little conectors on the back cover and put a little piece of paper under so i'm sure they connect (i don't know if that's how wifi works because it's working the same with or without the back cover).
What else should I try? Is there something to do or every G2 has signal problems?
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I had a similar problem with my G2. The old phone (Optimus 3D) had good and strong wifi signal. With this one, from the first day to connect to home network, I had connection problems and all I had to do was to set to one network mode (and only one - I use G), on a single channel (give it a low one - 1 to 6) and a 20 Mhz band channel. And guess what: I can have a clear and strong enough (plus stable) from down the street, while my flat is at the third floor.
Please try to modify your modem/router settings as stated before and let me know the results.

BigBadSheep said:
I had a similar problem with my G2. The old phone (Optimus 3D) had good and strong wifi signal. With this one, from the first day to connect to home network, I had connection problems and all I had to do was to set to one network mode (and only one - I use G), on a single channel (give it a low one - 1 to 6) and a 20 Mhz band channel. And guess what: I can have a clear and strong enough (plus stable) from down the street, while my flat is at the third floor.
Please try to modify your modem/router settings as stated before and let me know the results.
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My router works fine. I have it on G/N 20Mhz Channel 5. I work installing internet antennas on top of buildings so I would like to access the routers from far away.
Another question. What's the purpose of the gold connectors on the back cover?I have like 3-4 pairs. My wifi, network and gps work with or without the cover. No difference.

dj_monkeyyy said:
My router works fine. I have it on G/N 20Mhz Channel 5. I work installing internet antennas on top of buildings so I would like to access the routers from far away.
Another question. What's the purpose of the gold connectors on the back cover?I have like 3-4 pairs. My wifi, network and gps work with or without the cover. No difference.
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You must have only one type of connection. Or at least in my case is so. I have only G, not mixed one. As for back cover connectors...I have none. Stock back cover, gold edition of D802.

BigBadSheep said:
You must have only one type of connection. Or at least in my case is so. I have only G, not mixed one. As for back cover connectors...I have none. Stock back cover, gold edition of D802.
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I'm talking about these gold "things" I don't know what are they called - http://tinyurl.com/k4r2ykc (not my picture)
My brother sees 8 wifi routers with 3+ signal bars with an old Sony xperia tipo. I see only 3