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I'm somewhat puzzled about the terms Headset and Hands-free.
There is an option to set my BT headset as hands-free, but I have no idea what that does.
My BT headset (airoblue) is supposed to have an mp3 interface, but when I play an mp3, the sound comes out of the speaker.
I would like to hear all sound to go through my BT headset.
So there are 2 questions in the latter:
1. What is the difference between Headset and Handsfree?
2. Is it possible to have all sound go through my BT headset?
any ideas?

I can answer the first one.
Headset is pretty straightfoward...plug in your headset, use your bluetooth, etc
Handsfree is kind of like speakerphone I guess. No headset or accessories required, the sound is played thru the phone's main speaker instead of the earpiece, so that you can sit the phone on the desk in front of you and hold a conversation. (I haven't used this feature on my mini yet tho, so no idea how well it works and I *think* you activate this mode by holding down the green answer button onc the call has been answered).

I think you misunderstood the question bleepy. The latest Radio Stack of the Magician seems to implement the Handsfree Profile for bluetooth in addition to the Headset profile. The difference between these two is, that Handsfree has some additional capabilities compared to Headset. I think it allows voice dialing as well as initiating calls by the headset (therefore: Handsfree!). It is not meant for audio transmission and i doubt that the WaveOut of the Magician is linked to the bluetooth profile. That's what the A2DP profile is there for. This is not included in the Microsoft stack and i think currently also not available from third party developers. So I think you should forget about the audio streaming over the headset, also because the audio quality should be really bad since the handsfree profile wasn't developed for music streaming.

Thanks for the clear explanation.
I hoped there was a way, because it is nice to watch a movie or something in the plane, or bus.
Guess I'm stuck with the wired headset.

Bluetooth Headset, Ringing on Phone, Call over Headset

Sorry for the quircky title.
I want to get myself the HD2, since I just love the screen and it's pretty tweakible . However, I can't hold a phone at my ear for a long time, so I want to use a Bluetooth Stereo headset. But, I will not be wearing the plugs in my ear during the entire day, so I need the following feature:
1. When connected to the Bluetooth Stereo Headset, I want the sound of incoming calls, sms, mms, email, whatever... via the speaker on the phone.
2. When I answer a call, I want the audio to go over the Bluetooth Stereo Headset.
3. When I play music, watch video, etc, I want all the audio from 1. and 2. to go over the Bluetooth Stereo Headset.
4. When the Bluetooth Stereo Headset is not connected I want all the audio to go via the speaker on the phone.
Can this be done by a default solution, or do I need to download free / buy commercial software for this or is it just not possible?
I can't find the answer anywhere, so that's why I'm asking.
Thank you for any and all answers.

hi,
you should get a headset that supports both bt audio protocols 1. hands-free for phonecalls and 2. stereo audio for music and systemsounds. i have 2 of these devices, when they connected all music and systemsounds are redirected to the headset, also phonecalls. the only thing that the speaker of the phone plays are the ringtones for incomming calls. the only thing not working of your list is the notification for sms, mms etc. because the hd2 is playing them as normal audio, so you hear them on the headset and not at the speaker. but that may depend on the rom you use.
regards mad

madbird said:
hi,
you should get a headset that supports both bt audio protocols 1. hands-free for phonecalls and 2. stereo audio for music and systemsounds.
regards mad
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Thanx madbird. All I needed to know. I can live with this idea. For the other notifications there might be a led feature, so that solves yet another question. Sill doubting between X10 and HD2 though...

I remember I saw a registry modification here on XDA to force the sound of ringing through the main speaker and not through the headset, I just don't remember where.... google it.

doctorcete said:
I remember I saw a registry modification here on XDA to force the sound of ringing through the main speaker and not through the headset, I just don't remember where.... google it.
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I found some posts. However, I can't test anything, since I don't have the HD2. Yet. After watching another gazillion youtubes regarding the HD2 I will get it. I just can't get myself to part from outlook yet and keep all my contacts/calendar/tasks etc in 'the cloud'...

Why part from outlook? No need to, I do everything with outlook like the past 6 years and don't use the myphone thing...

kilrah said:
Why part from outlook? No need to, I do everything with outlook like the past 6 years and don't use the myphone thing...
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Sorry, I'm mixing posts again . I was in doubt between the X10 and the HD2. After watching and reading quite some (p)reviews and youtube movies, I do see the power of Android, but integration with Outlook is slim to none. Yes, I can use Moxier, but that would give me 2 contact databases (from what I understoord anyways), missing the integration fun. And I don't want to use Google calendar/mail/taks etc, since they lack integration. It will come, but I need that stuff today, not tomorrow.
Short version: I do not want to part from Outlook , it's one of the main reasons for me not switching to Android...

How does MyTouch 4G deal with headphones with no mic and how to favour bluetooth?

Hi,
I've been using the Car Dock Home v3 app launched from HTC's car dock when I'm driving. Yesterday I was also listening to some podcasts form the phone by connecting the headphone jack to my car's aux input. I had a bluetooth headset connected.
Then someone decided to call me and it was disastrous. The car mode causes the phone to read the incoming phone number and let you answer or decline by voice, which is neat, but instead of going through the car's speaker (headphone out) it goes through the built in speaker. I don't know why it would do this, but with the car noise it was impossible to hear it.
Then after answering the call, instead of going through the bluetooth headset, I heard the caller through the car's speakers (sounded great) but they couldn't hear me at all. I can switch to the bluetooth headset manually, but it's too dangerous to try and navigate the tiny buttons and text while driving. With another caller they could hear me, though.
So I can't figure out what the phone is doing when you have something plugged into the headphone jack but no wired mic. It seems like the phone's microphone is active, but not in speakerphone mode, so it's probably too quiet on the other end to clearly hear me unless I talk right into the mic, which I can't do while driving.
So questions:
1. Is there any way to increase the internal mic gain to use the phone connected to the car speakers as a true speakerphone (and can this be done without creating echo/feedback)?
2. Is there any way to have the phone automatically prioritize a connected bluetooth device over the headphone jack?
3. If the answers to 1. and 2. are no, is there any way to have a car mode specific dialer screen with nice big buttons for selecting audio source manually?
4. Can I get the car mode to read incoming call info into the headphone jack rather than the internal speaker?
Thanks!

Key action you must take when your phone rings...
DON'T touch the screen. Click your BT device to answer.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something

jggimi said:
Key action you must take when your phone rings...
DON'T touch the screen. Click your BT device to answer.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something
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Are you sure that works? I didn't try that, but I used my bluetooth headset to launch genius and dial a contact by voice. Everything worked through the bluetooth headset, but once the call connected, it switched to the car's speakers.

I'm pretty sure that the car mode initiates hands-free mode, which automatically turns on the phones internal speaker when a call comes in. See if there's a setting that prevents hands-free from turning on in the app. That might fix things the way you use them.
Sent from my HTC Glacier

While the phone is ringing, activate the connection via BT. It works for me now, and it worked on the stock ROM. But you don't ned to take my word for it, just try it.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something

I'll give that I try when I get a chance. There is an option to automatically enable speakerphone in the car dock app, so maybe disabling that will also fix the problem. However, so long as the headphone jack isn't in use, it works exactly like I want it to:
If the bluetooth headset is connected, it gets used for answering and making calls. If the bluetooth headset is not connected, when answering or making calls the phone's spakerphone is automatically enabled.
The issue is that with the headphone jack in use, it seems to take precedence over both internal speakerphone and bluetooth headset.
My guess is that if the headphone jack is in use the phone assumes that you're using a wired headphone/headset with its own mic. If that were the case, the behaviour actually makes sense: if you've got a wired headset in your ears, that's where you'd want the audio to go. I suppose if there is no external mic but you're wearing headphones, using the internal mic without speakerphone gain also may make sense: you'd hear through the headphones and hold the mic near your mouth to talk. The problem is it ignores the case of external speakers versus headphones. Especially in car mode it should be smarter about how it deals with these options. Of course, some of the issue may be due to the third party dock app, so maybe I'll have to try with that disabled or contact the developer to see if he can do anything.
It's little usability issues like this that make me want to drop Android, although I have no idea if there's actually anything that really works better.

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...It's little usability issues like this that make me want to drop Android.....
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Training yourself to touch the earpiece instead of the phone to answer is not overly difficult. It only took me one or two "oops" experiences to stop touching the phone.

I use the phone and aux input all the time while driving, but the difference is that I don't have a bluetooth headset involved.
Audio comes out of the headphone jack and I speak into the phone's mic and it works fine. Turn the phone volume to max and use the headunit volume to adjust.

So I have had a chance to test it. It's true, if you use the bluetooth headset's button to answer a call it does get properly routed to the headset. If you answer by taping answer on the screen it gets routed the headphone/speaker + internal mic.
It does also seem like the internal mic is used correctly and pretty much sounds as good as the speaker phone mode, so answering a call while wearing headphones or using speakers doesn't seem like it should be a problem (assuming echo isn't an issue with speakers). Don't know why that one caller couldn't hear me, but that could be some other reason.
What doesn't work, though, is initiating a call from the bluetooth headset if the headphone jack is in use. Using the bluetooth headset button to initiate genius voice dialing works as expected until the call is connected, at which pint it then gets routed to the headphone/mic instead of the bluetooth headset. There doesn't seem to be any way around this. Of course, since you are initiating the call, it's probably not too bad to just unplug the headphone jack first...

[Q] Bluetooth Headset Audio?

Hi All,
I have a 16GB TF .. and it's been very good so far. However, I'm having an issue that I think is probably simple .. but google & xda searches don't find anyone else with the same issue.
I want to use Skype over the tablet, but with a bluetooth headset. Using the TF with just the internal mic & speakers is pretty speakerphon-ish .. and I'd like to use a headset.
I have a couple of BT headsets (one of them 2.1 w/ EDR), and I can pair any / all of them to the TF. Problem is, the audio doesn't come through over the head set, and I don't know how to force it to.
The TF (now running 3.1) acknowledges that the headset is connected (to phone audio it says) .. but the only options in the configuration is to remove it.
What am I missing? I see reviews all over the place where folks are using the tablet to play movies in the car, and piping the audio out via BT? I think I must be missing a config step .. but can't find it.
Thanks for your help.

Im kind of in the same boat but I dont think honeycomb has a "phone audio" functionality. Only "media audio," which is what you would use when piping audio to external speakers.
its the same on the phone, those headsets only connect to mono phone audio so if I was playing a movie or music its silent. So for right now I think you are stuck until they figure out how to make specific apps recognize the phone audio device.

Makes some sense .. so it knows there's a "phone audio" aspect to things out there, but we don't have any way to force the Skype audio to be phone audio and not media.
So if I had a stereo headset, would the system work with it and pipe the audio out since it would recognize it as a media audio system?
Where does the mic fit in all of this?

I have a BT combination headset/headphones which I paired with the Transformer, and from testing it I can say the following:
1. The transformer paris with the device and recognizes both the "handsfree" and "media" profiles that the headphones support.
2. The "media" profile (also called A2DP, stereo bluetooth, etc) works fine. I have listened to music in stereo though them and all of the controls like play/pause and previous/next work properly. If you want to listen to movies, music, or whatever else you should be fine.
3. I can hear Skype through the headphones, but testing revealed that Skype is using the Transformer's build in microphone rather than the one in my headphoens. It also doesn't respond to the call button. Thus, it seems to be using the "media" profile to deliver sound.
So, even though the Transformer can clearly recognize handsfree profile, it either isn't passing it to apps or Skype isn't asking for it.
It looks like as long as you plan to be Skyping with the tablet infront of you, you can get almost the same functionality of a handsfree/headset by using a BT headphones instead. As long as you don't plan to leave the tablet in one room and talk in another you should be fine.

hey so i tried Super BT Mono Free Trial and it actually worked. thought it was Froyo only and reportedly broken with gingerbread.
using Samsung WEP450 paired "handsfree" profile, turned on Super BT Mono and to my surprise audio from music player routed to the BT headset. sound is crappy, and so far can't get audio from BeyondPod to the BT headset.
rooted 8.4.4.11 with netformer 1.5 OC 1.6 ghz and juwe11 ram profile.

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try jabra... coz jabra headset supports a2dp i had the same issues until i bought a jabra

Good help :] but way to dig up a year old thread xDDD""

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Good help :] but way to dig up a year old thread xDDD""
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hahaha just wanna keep answering those unanswered questions coz before i couldnt post here and i see a lot of questions left unanswered and i know how it feels just like to help out in anyway

Bluetooth

Is there a way to modify the bluetooth code so that the "ear peice" via "bluetooth" will also give you "music" etc....
I mean if the phone detects the ear peice and plays all the calls thru the ear peice..... why cant it be hacked to also play internet music....
Thanks in advance....
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Actually, I too would like to know if this is possible. Why can't it just be detected as wireless "headphones/headset".
Although I'm using an iPhone 4 so I'm sure that it'd be more difficult to do this if it is possible.

Should work
Lexsym said:
Actually, I too would like to know if this is possible. Why can't it just be detected as wireless "headphones/headset".
Although I'm using an iPhone 4 so I'm sure that it'd be more difficult to do this if it is possible.
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It depends on the activity the app code is running on the host device. All audio is able to be routed to the headphones. What kind of phone are you using?

It's not as simple as wired headphones. BT has something called profiles - each profile is for doing some particular thing - like transferring files, playing music, making calls, etc. For a particular feature to be supported, both the phone and the headset has to support that particular profile. Most android versions have support for most common profiles.
Calls are possible through profiles called HSP/HFP and stereo music is possible through profile called A2DP. Most of the mono headsets which are mainly for calling support only HSP/HFP and not A2DP - that's main reason you can't play music on most mono headsets. If you buy stereo BT headsets, they come with both HSP/HFP and A2DP - meaning they can support both calls and audio.
There are apps / hacks to stream music from an android phone to a mono headset through HSP/HFP. I've never tried any - you can look for those if you want to play music on your mono BT HSP headset.

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I searched play store for mono bluetooth..... found blue tooth mono router... seems to work ok... a lot of white noise but hey works great!
thanks for the share
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RoxAbout said:
Is there a way to modify the bluetooth code so that the "ear peice" via "bluetooth" will also give you "music" etc....
I mean if the phone detects the ear peice and plays all the calls thru the ear peice..... why cant it be hacked to also play internet music....
Thanks in advance....
pm me a fix... flame in public...
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Are you able to connect the device to a computer or tablet? I think it would depend on the drivers on the device you're connecting to. What are you trying to connect to? Does it detect your earpiece?

its a jabra bluetooth ear peice.
and theres several "mono" bluetooth apps on the market/play store.
I happened to try blue tooth mono router and it works fairly well.
seems to use aprox 3 to 5% of battery in aprox 15 to 20 mins.
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