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Want to redo phone, how do I backup and which of the ...

My phone suddenly feels sluggish as if some program is hogging all the memory and I've made a bit of a mess anyway :?. I also just recently got a 1GB mini SD and want to install apps to it.
I need to backup: my contact list, call history, text messages, notes, tasks and also calendar.
How do I go about doing this?
Also which of the following should go on PPC and which are fine to run off the SD?
-TCMP (which cab am I supposed to use again?)
-Skype (going to try new one)
-Total Commander
-Real player (don't think TCMP can play such files)
-The tweak app posted here
-Adobe acrobat reader PPC (I know there's something else but I don't remember its name)
-minimo (seems pretty interesting haven't had the chance to try it out yet)

AsGF2MX said:
I need to backup: my contact list, call history, text messages, notes, tasks and also calendar.
How do I go about doing this?
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Contact list, notes, tasks, calender is backuped with ActiveSync. You don't have to worry if ActiveSync works fine with Outlook.
About the call history and text messages I don't know. I myself haven't find them that important.
I use Sunnysoft Backup Manager for backups:
http://www.sunnysoft.com/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
Check it out ... it's good if to restore to a snapshot before you screw up your device.
And remember to "redo your phone" with the newest available ROM.

To be honest, I have been running without Activesync. Don't think I have outlook installed...hmm. Is there any way to do it so that it can be loaded directly onto the phone? Otherwise I guess I will have to install it as it comes with office if I remember correctly.
If I can't backup text messages...hmm...there must be away. I would like to keep the call history but it looks like it can't be helped...I'll have to run through and collect some of those numbers :x
Do I really need the newest ROM for my mini S? :? The one on it right now works great. Heck even skype worked acceptably till now...

AsGF2MX said:
If I can't backup text messages...hmm...there must be away. I would like to keep the call history but it looks like it can't be helped...I'll have to run through and collect some of those numbers :x
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I suppose it's possible if you know where the data is saved. But I think there won't be a simple way of doing it. I would myself be intresting where the data can be found.
AsGF2MX said:
Do I really need the newest ROM for my mini S? :? The one on it right now works great. Heck even skype worked acceptably till now...
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Once you "redo your phone" ... it's your best opertunity to upgrade the ROM. And I prefer you do so to avoid problems in the feature. Your device will be faster and be more stable (ROM 2.17).

2.17...Is that an O2 ROM? I will first need to figure out how to save those text messages. Hmm.... Worth emailing MS?

AsGF2MX said:
2.17...Is that an O2 ROM? I will first need to figure out how to save those text messages. Hmm.... Worth emailing MS?
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2.17 is the ROM HTC has distributed to all brands/countries ... depeding on each contact it depends when the ROM is available officially.
I think it's no worth mailing MS. Hope someone here know where the SMS are saved.

AsGF2MX said:
2.17...Is that an O2 ROM? I will first need to figure out how to save those text messages. Hmm.... Worth emailing MS?
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You realy do need outlook.
JeyoMobileExtender wil backup your SMS in Outlook.
You can also use SPB-Backup, works fine but is hat not to many option for custom backup and restore. The backups are selfextracting

Are those two freeware?

AsGF2MX said:
Are those two freeware?
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No freeware

AsGF2MX said:
Are those two freeware?
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Shareware ... you may be able to test them during the time you "redo your phone".

Jayo Mobile Companion is what you want!
http://www.jeyo.com/companion.asp

txt transfer

Can any one advice me of either another PDA application or a means of transerring txts from my XDA Exec so i can retain them if have to Hard reset device?

Whilst I don't have an Exec so I can't try this out, I use Jeyo Mobile Commander to backup my SMSes and contacts - it works flawlessly with my device, and as it works through ActiveSync chances are it'll work with the Exec too... PM me for more info.

technorock said:
Can any one advice me of either another PDA application or a means of transerring txts from my XDA Exec so i can retain them if have to Hard reset device?
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sorry, not sure i understand your question... do you want to backup your txt files? just copy them to a SD card ... or to the PC via activesync or via wlan (without AS). plenty of options available.

In the UK, txts is pretty much used as an everyday slang for 'text messages' (txts.. sending a text, etc) - sorry if we confused you

christopherwoods said:
In the UK, txts is pretty much used as an everyday slang for 'text messages' (txts.. sending a text, etc) - sorry if we confused you
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woops. i see now thanks.

SMS transfer
Apologies, it is the sms and mms i want to be able to copy from XDA so i dont lose them when ROM upgrade or hard reset is completed.
Is Jeyo Mobile Commander compatible with the XDA EXEC? also there seems to be a new product Jeyo Pocket Companion, does that do the same?
Newbie so bear with me please.
Thanks for your help.

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technorock said:
Apologies, it is the sms and mms i want to be able to copy from XDA so i dont lose them when ROM upgrade or hard reset is completed.
Is Jeyo Mobile Commander compatible with the XDA EXEC? also there seems to be a new product Jeyo Pocket Companion, does that do the same?
Newbie so bear with me please.
Thanks for your help.
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i know for a fact that jeyo (to backup sms's) is compatible with the exec, but i never tried it, don't know exactly which program you need..
anyway does anyone know of a solution to backup them that doesn't need the pc and syncing? sms export to a txt file or csv or anything would be even better.

The only program I've found which can backup your texts without using ActiveSync is a program called smsBackup - but it's quite buggy, and you still have to copy the file off yourself (it just saves the backup file in its Program Files folder, and doesn't ever prompt you to save it anywhere else) - it's free though, so I suppose you can 'work with it' considering the price point

christopherwoods said:
The only program I've found which can backup your texts without using ActiveSync is a program called smsBackup - but it's quite buggy, and you still have to copy the file off yourself (it just saves the backup file in its Program Files folder, and doesn't ever prompt you to save it anywhere else) - it's free though, so I suppose you can 'work with it' considering the price point
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the problem is that this program is not wm5 compatible.

Ah, rats.
To be honest, Jeyo Mobile Commander is WELL worth using ActiveSync for - it's a really, really useful program and doesn't require anything installed on your mobile device to work, so that's even better.

christopherwoods said:
Ah, rats.
To be honest, Jeyo Mobile Commander is WELL worth using ActiveSync for - it's a really, really useful program and doesn't require anything installed on your mobile device to work, so that's even better.
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the bad thing is that i'd have to start using outlook then :wink:
well, i'll see... if nothing else...

afaik, if you're just using the bog standard New -> Message method of sending texts on your phone, while it does store the messages on the phone in the Outlook hive along with MMSes and emails synced from Outlook, I don't believe you need Outlook on your PC to save and/or restore them, if you catch my drift...

christopherwoods said:
afaik, if you're just using the bog standard New -> Message method of sending texts on your phone, while it does store the messages on the phone in the Outlook hive along with MMSes and emails synced from Outlook, I don't believe you need Outlook on your PC to save and/or restore them, if you catch my drift...
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sorry, how do you mean the part about using the new/message method. i just press reply many times after seeing the notification without going into the messaging application.
would be real cool if i don't need outlook for this. i'll definitely check this out. thanks once more.

Well I just use the XDA's regular messaging app for texting too, which I know stores text messages in a pooled area along with mesages synced in from Outlook and MMS messages.
But the Jeyo app just reads my SMSes directly from the phone (I can watch it as it populates the list realtime), and when I back up my messages it saves them directly to its own format file, and restores them directly back again. Outlook is never involved.

2 versions
I think there are 2 versions of Jeyo...
1. Is a standalong app
2. Is a build ontop of Outlook...
What've i've noticed is application 1, does not read sub folders, which i've found to be annoying, as i'm on the verge of a hard reset myself, and i have built up quite a collection of sms's now...
Wish there was an easy answer to this...

Maby SPB Backup is something to look into?
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Not sure if it does sms/mms, but worth a try

I use Jeyo Mobile Commander to back up my txt msgs, I recently had to send my MDA Pro back to T-mobile so i used Jeyo to save my txt onto my computer and transfered them to my MDA III(BA) until i got my MDA Pro (Universal) back. It works a charm and backs up txt nicley, updates all the current txt on the computer every time you connect it to activesync, the only thing that i would have liked it to do would be to backup MMS which it doesn't have the option for as far as i can see, but apart from that you can backup your txt, contacts, call history and even send txt directly from your computer once its connected to you phone.

Yeah, I noted that it doesn't (can't? or won't?) back up MMS messages, possibly because of the non-standard way in which the XDAs create them (I noticed that the actual MMs composition software is third party, maybe that's got something to do with it...) Aside from that, I'm absolutely happy with the software. The ability to send text messages straight from my PC while my phone's docked is VERY cool

ok problem solved.. a friend of mine is writing a brilliant program that can export the sms's on the device without a pc. basically already working ok, just needs some polishing 8)

Tell him I'd love to beta test it for him, if he needs testers!

Import SMS

hi to all, i've a great problem.. i've about 500 sms stored in my old S100, now i've bought my new Tytn with wm5 but i can't export/import my old SMS...
anyone has an idea to put my old sms to the new device?
thx in advance
bubu

jeyo mobile extender via outlook might help you do that.

sama said:
jeyo mobile extender via outlook might help you do that.
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someone in other post as said that doesn't work on wm5 devices..
it's true?

nope thats wrong.
I have used it for 6 months. The only hassel i had is after i installed my pc and outlook every time again i got a different hardware ID. So i used to write to Jeoy everytime i reinstalled my system to get my valid copy to work.
Sometimes the addon hangs and crashes Outlook but this are minor bugs. Nice tool so far, i have missed it to backup up my last sms. Oh and you can send sms out of the pc if the PDA is connected via active sync.
I recommend that tool.
Regards,
Falk

Fantastic!
it works! many many many thx

Also works with some "cosmetic error messages":
AIM production's SMS Cool
BR,
Joe

Best app for PC sms and backup?

Hi can anybody give me a tip on a good app for managing sms's from my pc and also backing the up. I like to keep me sms's when i upgrade the rom but pim backup 1.8 messes it up. So anybody got a good one???

maybe you can try sync to myphone.microsoft.com ?

I use Jeyo Mobile Extender 2.5
It works through Outlook & i've been using it since my MDA. Its not free unless you know how to Google.

Try SPB backup and for SMS try powerSMS

I actually googled the question this morning and eventually found this looks cool just installed it and am testing it now. It's called dashwire and does everything from text messages to contacts and photos
http://dashwire.com/

It seems most of these apps have bugs in them. The ones i focused most on was powersms and myphone from microsoft.
Powersms messes up the treaded messeging, so that the cronologic part in the conversation(sms) is not correct. Myphone is buggy and does not sync all sms's.
Any other good ones??
What i want is be able to upgrade my phone ( custome firmvare) and the be able to restore me sms's in the correct order cronoligicaly.

Why do you need to keep all your sms? I've flashed my ROM a few times and only thing I like to back up is my contacts. I get way to many sms to care to back them up.

I will second Jeyo Mobile Extender 2.5. Been using it for sometime now. It does not sync MMS and if there is MMS, the sync just stops. Guess it's a bug but it's the best for me so far.
You can't restore the sms....which i don't mind cos if i need to look for old sms, i just launch MS Outlook on the PC and search for it.
It's not free but.......

you can actually move the SMS back to your device with JME 2.5, but yeah, took me a while to figure out the MMS thing. now i just delete any MMS that i send/receive right after i look at them.

Well i gave mymobile from ms another try and it seemed to work very well the second time around.
I like to have the latest sms's awailible y i dont know hehe, but yea it get quite many after a while....

I use PPCPimBackup - Freeware

xnifex said:
you can actually move the SMS back to your device with JME 2.5, but yeah, took me a while to figure out the MMS thing. now i just delete any MMS that i send/receive right after i look at them.
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Oh we can move it back to the device? How do you do that?

charlie_82 said:
I use PPCPimBackup - Freeware
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That one does not work for me. Treaded messages are messed up after restore

myphone.microsoft.com

http://myphone.microsoft.com
pretty good service i thought what the heck lets try it out its free but it actually works pretty good especially with all the different roms we keep trying it out syncs it through data connection or wifi and it is pretty fast in it.
try it out

Yea its real good, expect for some of the contacts and appointments it makes duplicates, when you do a hard reset. But txt messages sync is darn good...so I dont use pim backup anymore.

Same here.
I've used it for about a month now and with all the flashing I do,
I wouldn't dream of using another backup program.

Great when trying ROMs . I really like the service. But the scheduler does not keep its settings, so I have to sync manually from time to time :-(.

i still use pimbackup only cause it also stores call logs...

Give Dashwire a try, it can backup call logs and speed dials too.

It's too bad it can't sync when your already connected to an exchange server via activesync

I own a Palm Treo Pro and Touch Pro 2 (Dutch).
MyPhone messes up the devices with double names etc. It also adds alarm notifications to my calendar. Last time I've used it was about 2 months ago, but I don't think that Microsoft has updated their Beta yet...

Can someone compare the two? I've been using Dashwire for a good long time now and am very hesitant to switch. I have every call/text logged since I installed the software. Pretty neat. Their online interface is super helpful if your phone dies and you need a number.

Mesquire said:
Give Dashwire a try, it can backup call logs and speed dials too.
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Does it sync or is it just a backup?
I need to sync with outlook AND Thunderbird and am using Funambol to my almost satisfaction. However, it does not sync My Documents (though the notes can be synched!)