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Topic might sound a bit puzzling, but I can clear that up. At work my laptop is hooked into the network. I cant use the hermes (8525) as my 3g internet source since then I wouldn't be on the network anymore and would lose my unix and email connectivity.
What would be spectacular, is if I could hook my phone in via activesync or bluetooth and route internet from one webbrowser on my laptop through the phone, hence why I mention proxy.
3g is generally faster than web goes where I work, and they also block alot of sites. Down with the man!
I might also be crazy.
Using the 8525 as a modem for your laptop is easy. Consult page 109 of the PDF user's manual that is located on the installation CDROM.
You can also download the manual here:
http://www.8525software.com/
pcm2a said:
Topic might sound a bit puzzling, but I can clear that up. At work my laptop is hooked into the network. I cant use the hermes (8525) as my 3g internet source since then I wouldn't be on the network anymore and would lose my unix and email connectivity.
What would be spectacular, is if I could hook my phone in via activesync or bluetooth and route internet from one webbrowser on my laptop through the phone, hence why I mention proxy.
3g is generally faster than web goes where I work, and they also block alot of sites. Down with the man!
I might also be crazy.
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lol yeah you tell em, im in the same boat.
Dang, sorry it took me a while to get back to this. You are certainly correct that using the phone as a modem IS easy, but that is not exactly what I am trying to do.
Scenario:
If I plug my network jack into my laptop, I'm connected to my network and I'm connected to the internet via my internal network.
If at the same time I connect my 8525 via Internet Sharing on the phone, I'm still connected to my internal network and the internal via my internal network.
If I disconnect my network jack from my laptop, I am no longer connected to my internal network.
My internet is now being routed through my 8525 phone, as expected.
What I would like to accomplish:
Network jack plugged in and access to my internal network.
8525 connected via Bluetooth to laptop to browse with IE/Firefox.
Using the phones built in internet sharing is so much simpler than going the Wireless modem route in the manual. Is that the only way to be able to accomplish this? What I have been unable to figure out is how to tell Firefox/IE to use my bluetooth connection as the primary if available.
Thanks!
All you'd need to do is modify the routing info to point the right traffic at the right interface..
How you'd go about changing that in Windows I have no idea.. Linux I reckon I could figure out but windows youll have to google... its definitly possible though.. shouldnt be too hard.
I had the same idea, but after some Google-ing i understood that it wasn't possible with a WM5 phone.
The only thing i could comeup with is a proxy tool on the phone where you could point your browser to, but unfortunatly the only one that exists only handles GET requests... so it's pretty useless for now...
I have tried all sorts of crazy ideas, even changing the metrics on my NIC port on my laptop. All was a bust.
I found some posts about the proxy server that only does GET as well. I guess I'm stuck with slow work internet.
It surely must be possible because it has nothing to do with the phone really.. the change that needs to be made is with windows routing..
Maybe try having a search for using windows with 2 network interface cards and apply the same sort of technique.. ignore the fact one is a phone as there will be more guides with standard nics and the theory should be the same..
If i get a chance ill have a go on a windows box tonight and see if I can come up with anything.
I was searching for things like "winxp two nic routing" and things like that. Found tons of relevant posts and information, but no solutions. With linux it looked like you could tell it to route things on certain ports to a different NIC.
If you can run a SSH server at home, you can open a tunnel between your work PC and home. Then use that tunnel as a proxy for pretty much everything.
However, if your work blocks the internet all together, you can use your phone's internet the very same way.
Here is a guide I wrote to bypass the HTTP proxy from on the GPRS side.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314757
I also wrote this guide to do the very same thing, but from your phone (so you can check emails from your phone, and use windows live )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316890
In the second guide, second post, I explain how to setup a SSH server on a windows XP machine.
I told you it'd be complicated
this sounds a bit crazy but i use VMware on my work pc.
i have a 2nd windows os running under vmware that i share my usb connection(bluetooth or cable) from the host pc with to connect my htc tytn to the internet using pan..
this way their network is safe from me and my information stays on my virtual OS with my own credential not there domains. then i can do as i please.
im new to any form of htc or palm(any windows based phone). my blackberry i could do a bunch of stuff without having internet through various simulators and whatnot. i was interested in getting the touch because i believed it had wifi, but know i realized that it doesnt(still havent purchased it.)
so my questions are
will the phone be able to receive a internet signal through bluetooth? as in i connect my phone to my macbook, i should receive a connection.
if i connect it to the computer via usb will i be able to download applications just like if i had the internet plan?? i really do not need the phone to be able to have internet at all times, just for downloading apps. i mainly use smartphones for there planning and scheduling abilities.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
just some side info, switching from sprint is not an option, nor is getting a information plan, as im a broke college kid.
Not sure about the bluetooth, it should be possible though.
As for the USB yes, infact if you are downloading applications do this over your regular internet if you don't have unlimited wireless internet from your provider. Applications can be quite big and you can hit your download limit very easily this way.
thanks a bunch, i went and checked the phone out today and i liked it a bunch. once again, and to not start another new thread thats probably answered somewhere, is it possible to send ringtones to the phone through usb?
hockeyizlife94 said:
thanks a bunch, i went and checked the phone out today and i liked it a bunch. once again, and to not start another new thread thats probably answered somewhere, is it possible to send ringtones to the phone through usb?
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Sure, you can do that and much more (including internet connection sharing) by USB or Blue Tooth, through ActiveSync...
great, oct 1st is the day...already bought a case and microsd card..
hockeyizlife94 said:
great, oct 1st is the day...already bought a case and microsd card..
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HTC announced the Touch 3g and Touch HD which look very similar to the Vogue. I'm not sure when these devices will be released but they have the features you seem to be looking for (WiFi). If you wait a little bit, you may, or may not be happier with the 3g or HD.
Just some information in case you never heard of these devices yet.
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
EDIT: I am not sure about connecting a vogue to a mac, as it requires activesync to connect which is a Microsoft product. Most newer macs allow you to run windows xp, so it should be no problem. Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
There's also the Mogul which is out now that has built in wifi. Prices are low and should be dropping as newer phones come out. Good for a broke college student.
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HTC announced the Touch 3g and Touch HD which look very similar to the Vogue. I'm not sure when these devices will be released but they have the features you seem to be looking for (WiFi). If you wait a little bit, you may, or may not be happier with the 3g or HD.
Just some information in case you never heard of these devices yet.
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
EDIT: I am not sure about connecting a vogue to a mac, as it requires activesync to connect which is a Microsoft product. Most newer macs allow you to run windows xp, so it should be no problem. Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
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yea i saw those, im just thinking they are gunna be out of my price range because they will be brand new, kinda need the phone asap because my blackberry gave up on life and my back up isnt smart, i need smartphone lol
nosco said:
Also, when the phone is connected via USB, it will not use your regular DSL/Cable connection to access the internet. You will need to download the applications on your computer first, then transfer to the phone via activesync.
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Actually the phone can connect to the Internet via desktop DSL/Cable when they are USB linked.... but you'd never do that just to get apps on you phone. It's really only useful for syncing email to your phone when you don't have a data plan for the the phone.
Sprint HTC Touch internet thru bluetooth
So has anyone been able to figure out how to connect to the internet thru bluetooth to your PC/MAC? For example: If you are in an area that doesn't have cell coverage at all (Sprint or roaming) if you have an internet connection on your PC/MAC (DSL, Cable, etc.) can you connect to the computer thru bluetooth and access the internet on the Touch? It would be great for VOIP like Skype(out).
So I am not asking how to connect your computer to the internet thru your phone. Just the opposite, actually. Specifically asking for MAC.
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So has anyone been able to figure out how to connect to the internet thru bluetooth to your PC/MAC? For example: If you are in an area that doesn't have cell coverage at all (Sprint or roaming) if you have an internet connection on your PC/MAC (DSL, Cable, etc.) can you connect to the computer thru bluetooth and access the internet on the Touch? It would be great for VOIP like Skype(out).
So I am not asking how to connect your computer to the internet thru your phone. Just the opposite, actually. Specifically asking for MAC.
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Just have to enable data connections in Activesync or WMDC
denasqu said:
Just have to enable data connections in Activesync or WMDC
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i think its more then that. i found a link about connecting it but i cant find it now...you would have to go into the computers bt settings and change some stuff, and the phones..
EDIT:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
hockeyizlife94 said:
i think its more then that. i found a link about connecting it but i cant find it now...you would have to go into the computers bt settings and change some stuff, and the phones..
EDIT:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
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Yeah, I read too quickly and missed the BT requirement.
I tether using bluetooth with my mac book, you can use Internet connection sharing or pda net, and use the btpan feature.
Hi All,
I have searched the forums but can't find anything on my specific issue. I used to have an XDA Orbit and if I connected it via USB I could use my PC's internet connection. Is there anyway I can do this with my shiny new G1. The reason I’m asking is I have bugger all reception at work and the Wi-Fi is located in another building, which is too far away.
Please help!
Hi,
My above post has been moved here but im not trying to connect my pc to the internet using my phone, im trying to conect my phone to the internet through my PC.
As far as I can see this post does not apply to my question, can somebody please help? I can't be the only one this applies to!
If the computer has wifi and is connected to the internet through wired network it can be done...
Is this your case?
My work PC doesn't have Wi-Fi. My home PC does though.
All I want is for my G1 to be able to use my computers internet conection via USB. My old XDA Orbit used to be able to do it via active sync.
i.e I can surf the web on my phone using USB connection as the access point
Any ideas?
As far as I know this probably will not work, but you can try reversing the port forward technique with ADB
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My work PC doesn't have Wi-Fi. My home PC does though.
All I want is for my G1 to be able to use my computers internet conection via USB. My old XDA Orbit used to be able to do it via active sync.
i.e I can surf the web on my phone using USB connection as the access point
Any ideas?
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Why would you want to surf the web through the phone when you have a PC on the other end of that wire which does the same thing, but better?
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Why would you want to surf the web through the phone when you have a PC on the other end of that wire which does the same thing, but better?
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Several reasons that i can think of
1? Bad reception indoors, so i can waste time at work by downloading useless apps on my G1, and everyone thinks im working.
2? My cell provider charges me for internet bandwith usage (per kb/mb), im cheap and don't wanna pay them.
3? I'm a massochist, and enjoy using the G1's browser more than firefox(bleh!)
4? I'm running out of reasons now
All this hypothetically could be hypothetical.
Yup, im bored at work
Exactly, item 1 sums it up. I have no reception at work so if I have a data connection I can get email notifications and test out my apps. I can't believe no one else is missing this feature. On my xda I had it set up to sync with my various email accounts etc. It wouldn,t be a problem if tmobile's reception wasn't so poor!
I would assume it is possible but would have to forward ports from your computer to the phone, similar to how the thetherbot app forwards ports from the phone to the computer. But I may be wrong that could be a one way street for data.
Wow...you are a masochist As much as I like the browser on the g1 compared to other phones..I just don't see why you'd always want to use it instead of a PC
I don't want to surf the web on the G1 when right infront of me I have a PC. I simply want it to have a reliable data connection when I'm at work. As I have no signal from t bloody mobile and no wifi!
Nobody made a sync application similar to MS ActiveSync?
Why would we make something that is already built in?
ohh forget it. Your obviously not reading what i've written.
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ohh forget it. Your obviously not reading what i've written.
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No you obviously haven't paid attention.
Why would we create something to sync our phone to our computer when it does it all OTA. On top of this how did you expect it to sync our calendar and such when it is all proprietary?
What exactly do you want "sync'd"?
And once again... I am sure you could figure it out if you read up on adb forward commands.
ianmason said:
Hi All,
I have searched the forums but can't find anything on my specific issue. I used to have an XDA Orbit and if I connected it via USB I could use my PC's internet connection. Is there anyway I can do this with my shiny new G1. The reason I’m asking is I have bugger all reception at work and the Wi-Fi is located in another building, which is too far away.
Please help!
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As my first post says I have no reception at work at all, this means I go all day without being able to sync my various email accounts etc. I would also like to be able to demo what our device can do to my collegues. unfortunately i don't understand adb or indeed know what it stands for and as I have no programming knowledge i thought I would speak with people that do.
I will try to figure it out for myself and post my findings here. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it would be useful.
I'm also looking for some solution to use my Laptop's internet connection on my G1 via USB. The reason for this is I have a very weak neighbors wifi and only my Laptop can connect to it. I am writing android apps that need to connect to the internet.
cmavr8 said:
If the computer has wifi and is connected to the internet through wired network it can be done...
Is this your case?
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How can you use the computers wifi to send internet to the g1... while the computer has a wired connection..... please let me know.... I has windows vista..... I would luv to know this... thank you.... please send the info to [email protected]... thank you!!!
dotdevil said:
How can you use the computers wifi to send internet to the g1... while the computer has a wired connection..... please let me know.... I has windows vista..... I would luv to know this... thank you.... please send the info to [email protected]... thank you!!!
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you could set up an adhoc connection on the computer and connect to it on the g1 then bridge the networks
unfortunately my work PC does not have a Wi-Fi card so this wouldn't work. damn it whys it so complicated!?! :-(
You could just buy a router.
Hi, I have my laptop which is running windows 7 HP. I would like to use remote desktop on my hd2 but I cannot seem to connect to the computer. Can anyone help me to get it running?
connecting on your home network?
http://phonehacks.co.uk/index.php?article=Remote-Desktop-HD2-Leo
if you mean connecting from outside your home network, example connecting from your mobile data connection, then you also need to set up your router to port forward the incoming connection.
Hey Samsamuel,
Good advice fella, can i ask, i have a new htc hd2,
OS Vers: 5.2.21869
Manila Ver: 2.5.2012
Rom Ver: 1.72.841.0
Radio Ver: 2.07.51.22_2
I have remote desktop on my HD2, and have tried to connect it to my pc over 3g with no luck. I have allowed remote desktop use on my pc, so thats not the issue... I dont have a router, just a bigpond 7.2 mobile internet usb stick (i suppose you cud call that a router really). Is it still possible to connect to my laptop thru this device, as it doesnt seem to give me the option of porting thru the stick to the pc..??
Any help i would really appreciate, as i have never done this before, and have tried googling this to death, everyone just keeps mentioning routers, and porting, which i get, and understand, but nothing about mobile internet sticks...
Thanks mate
from the phone data to the usb key shouldnt require anything to be forwarded.
just find out the ip address of the pc, ensure the correct settings on remote desktop( i.e allow connections from devices running any version) and then on the phone start remote desktop and give it your pc ip address.
it "should" be straightforward. (if not necessarily speedy)
@samsamuel
Yeah, thats pretty much what ive done but it doesnt allow me to connect...maybe there is a problem between the bigpond 7.2 mobile stick and the pc..... will keep trying and let you all know....thanks....
I have never been able to connect to my laptop with my HD2 the whole time I have had it. I'm running windows 7 64 bit and have tried several settings, all with no luck. I pretty much gave up on it.
are you guys able to connect to the laptop using another machine and not just the hd2? that info helps identify if its an hd2 problem or a server/settings problem.
i use remote desktop to connect to work and logmein to connect to personal computers on the hd2 often, so you just gotta get them server settings right
i just tried using logmein hamachi and it worked instantly. just install the software in both the computer and the hd2, join the same network on both devices and enter the computer's hamachi- adress in the remote desktop application.
No ive not tried using another machine.... Good idea, will give that a try and see if it is a possible problem with my hd2.... Thanx....
No ive not tried using another machine.... Good idea, will give that a try and see if it is a possible problem with my hd2.... Thanx....
Hi there
i am new to android i recently purchase htc hero prior to this i was using htc raphael touch pro
my query is
in my touch pro i was able to surf internet on my mobile through my pc using the active sync from my pc
is there any way through which i can use my adsl internet from my pc to my htc hero
please help
If I was at my PC, I'd use my PC for the internet!
But hey, horses for courses eh.
No its not something I've heard anyone mention before. I take it you don't have WiFi then?
May be worth investing.
looking at HTCs website - does this work?
http://www.htc.com/www/howto.aspx?p_id=283&id=163
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looking at HTCs website - does this work?
http://www.htc.com/www/howto.aspx?p_id=283&id=163
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From my understanding he wants to do the opposite,... The hTC link is to use your phones data connection to connect your PC to internet,... I think they want to use their PC's internet connection to be able to surf on the phone?
ahh okay, my bad.
if the pc has a wireless card but the router isn't, you can set up an ad-hoc wireless network - but thats not something I have done on my hero, only with my elfs.
I'll have a look and see what I can find on my lunch break
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From my understanding he wants to do the opposite,... The hTC link is to use your phones data connection to connect your PC to internet,... I think they want to use their PC's internet connection to be able to surf on the phone?
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yes you are right in my office there is no wifii connection. previously i was using my pc internet connection on my phone
only for updating the apps and chatting through phone coz pc are monitored
aarif_ziaee said:
yes you are right in my office there is no wifii connection. previously i was using my pc internet connection on my phone
only for updating the apps and chatting through phone coz pc are monitored
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OK,... So what CaptainStu says might be possible,... try to do a little research yourself if you can and post back what you find,... Just to save CaptainStu some legwork.
done a bit of googling on my lunch -
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...704/reverse-tethering-and-the-t-mobile-pulse/ post 9 may be of use - but I don't know if you are using a Linux PC. I haven't tried myself, but it is interesting to see what can happen.
Also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666988
http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/internet-over-usb
Hope these help
Stu