Database Users

Off topic - Wireless - What am I doing wrong?

Pardon me because this isn't entirely a Wizard specific questions although I am able to replicate the problem with my Cingular 8125 (new ROM) 100% of the time.
I'm not a stupid person. I've setup numerous wireless networks for corporations and home users. I always use WEP or WPA and never unencrypted (no) security.
In most situations, the wireless router does NOT supply the DHCP to the clients. It usually comes from another DHCP server on the same LAN segment. Typically, this is a Windows server although it could be a DHCP-assigning device, such as a Cisco router.
PCs have no trouble seeing the wireless network and connecting to it and getting addresses assigned to them. For a while, I couldn't do this on WPA security but upgrading firmware and software on the laptops (usually Dell) rectified this.
With my Wizard, both old and new ROMs, I can SEE the wireless networks and connect to them but I can NEVER get an IP address. It tries and tries and fails and fails and eventually gives up. (Yes, the Cingular proxy is turned off)
Yet, at the airport or other public places with free wireless, I have no problems connecting my Wizard to the access point and surfing away. Thus, I know its not (entirely) a Wizard issue. Of course, these public access points aren't encrypted which could be one of the reasons but I doubt its the only one.
As a test, I just built a new wireless router with a SSID (other than "default") and security turned on (WPA) and let the router act as the DHCP server. Wizard connected in seconds and was surfing away. So the obvious next question is: why doesn't this work when the wireless router ISN'T the DHCP server? Other machines (laptops and such) have no problem connecting to one wireless router and getting a DHCP address from another box yet my Wizard cannot.
I've tested this with D-Link and Belkin wireless routers (consumer-grade).
I've seen other people post that they cannot get their wireless to work on their Wizard and while the fix may not be on the side of the Wizard, I think others may be in the same boat I'm in so I'm hoping that maybe we can compare enough stories to narrow this down so that we CAN use our Wizards wirelessly!
Ken

Confusing...
maybe you should try assign a fix ip to your pocket's wifi adapter and see if it would work. or just let the wlan security turn OFF on your access point to see what would happen.
i guess that the network protocol stack is slightly different between a PC and a PPC, which limit the DHCP request route.

I have just purchased the Wizard, aka o2 XDA Mini S, and use it with my Belkin Wireless Access Point (WPA-TKIP Enabled, DHCP & NAT disabled) and Cisco ADSL Router (DHCP Server) without any problems.
I have assigned the Belkin Wireless Access Point a fixed IP address however, but I don't think this would make a difference.
The other thing I found was that the Wizard would not connect correctly to the Belkin using WPA with AES encryption, but switching it to WPA with TKIP works flawlessly.

Well, I suppose its encouraging that others with the same wi-fi routers are getting this to work but its discouraging that I'm having so much trouble!
Fixed IP does work (therefore, its unlikely a Wizard-only problem) but obviously a fixed IP doesn't let me roam from one hotspot (home) to another (work) very easily.
Haven't tried it sans-security yet although that might just prove a point, rather than be a perminant solution. I have tried WPA-PSK and WEP with the same (negative) results.

I personally have found that unless I change the power settings for the WiFi adapter to full power, its hit or miss.
Never have a problem maing connections, geting leases, etc with it there.
YMMV though
Regards - John

prob irrelevent
i found that before i active sync'd. the wireless monitor on my wizard showed a strong signal from the router. then after it synced, it picked up an IP from the servers dhcp fine.
also for lightweight simple security i use mac address filtering on the AP

unable to connect to WLAN

Hi!
I do have problem to connect the device (o2 xda mini S) to WLAN. It recognizes the network, asks for the WPA-PSK key and then attempts to connect - but fails.
If I configure the device with a static IP this IP shows up during the
connection process after a while but the device isn't connected anyway.
If I use DHCP I get no IP ever.
I also tried a very simple 8 alphanum character key.
What may be wrong here?

I hope you get an answer soon, because I have the same problem. Enter the key, then no connect. I also tried it with security turned off on the router, no connect. This thing connected every time before 2.26 ROM update.

bump - having the same issue
bump
Hope there's a reply; having the same issue but I think it's router specific too. I am on Dlink DI-614+ and a friend of mine who has DI-524 (i think) has no problem connecting reconnecting.

if you figure out a way to get it to work, please PM me... I have not figured out this problem yet.
I might try to disable all of my router settings (WEP).. but that would only mess my already configured other devices up.

Stupid question, but is it a B/G router or is it configured to only do one of them ?

Well, I got it to work by disabling encryption and leaving the AP all open...
So, apparently the software has some WPA-PSK-related bugs

Same thing with 2.24a Mr.Clean. Open AP works fine, and any encryption messes the whole thing up. The connection is done, it even gets the IP - and continues to blink arrows and no data comes through.

Windows Mobile only knows TKIP but as I was using AES and wanted to continue using AES on the other machines I configured the router to provide "TKIP and AES". Well, this didn't work but TKIP only actually works now.

I've been having the same problems, could connect to unsecured networks, no problems. The thing would just refuse to connect to my home WLAN (Belkin 54G set to B/G), secured with WPA-PSK and TKIP data encryption. However, just updated the router's firmware from the Belkin website, and BINGO!!!! It found the router, I entered the key and immediately connected, fast too. Just try updating the firmware of your router!

I agree on the router upgrades. And some routers are just crap, sorry to say. I've had bad luck with Belkins and Netgears. Linksys and D-Link typically give me much less problems. You also need to make sure that you installed the registry settings to enable G networks on you device (of course)
I have a Sonicwall using WPA-PSK with no problems.
I personally like molski's tweaks to make the necessary registry settings on my device ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58438
Hope I was of some help.

Can't connect to Wi-Fi

I have a brand new wireless router; BELKIN N1 VISION.
I have set the security for this router as followed:
- Security Mode: WPA/WPA2-Personal(PSK)
- Authentication: WPA-PSK +WPA2-PSK
- Encryption Technique: TKIP + AES
Unfortunately my Qtek 9100 (with WM5) does find my wireless connection, but it refuses to make a connection after input of the WPA-code.

I'd try setting the security to either WPA-PSK or WEP. Some older laptops and wireless cards have issues with WPA2 and that could be causing it. Anyways, I'm probably wrong, thought I'd just throw it out there.

or also that you have a MAC (Media Access Control) Binding enabled on he router as a security measure.
I had the same problem yesterday, figured it out by adding my Wizard in the Access Control Enabled list.
Then there was the problem of not connecting automatically which I fixed by enabing IEEE.

Did anyone get this fixed ? - I have also bought a Belkin N1 - not MAC Enabled, no security enabled (WAP et al) - I live on a farm so that's not an issue !. My Nokia N95 *M works well with this over WiFi however my K-Jam finds the Router but cannot connect, comes back as unavailable all the time. HELP PLEASE !!!

hey guess what
my ignorant ass has.. the same problem!
my linksys router (WRT54G) has both b and g broadcasting (mixed)
i use static ip addresses and i'm not seemingly capable of assigning a static ip address on the G3.. before i attempted to assign the IP on the wiz, it would draw the connecting icon and eventually come back with "unable to obtain ip address"
so i knew that i needed to assign the ip.. so i gave it my best shot (i was able to do this on the laptop) and now it doesn't complain about not getting an ip address, it just never stops drawing the connecting icon, never connects, and i'm (obviously) unable to connect to the net via wifi.
any ideas or help or will this be a thread that just slowly rots without one of the xda-developer gods stepping in and solving problems for us brainless members?
hey man if it was a Ford i'd fix it for ya..

Pls Help! No WLAN with DLink DI 614+ and Touch HD

Hi,
I have a DLink WLAN Router DI 614+ at home and I just can't connect to the Internet with my touch HD. I'm using WEP 128bit encryption (The Router doesn't support WPA). The HD WLAN manager says that I'm connected to the WLAN, but I just can't access the Internet, neither with ie, opera, opera mini, weather update etc...
With my old ASUS P535 and my notebook the WLAN (and Internet) connection works fine, and other way round, i can also access other WEP encrypted WLANs (and Internet) with the HD... only the combination of the HD and my home WLAN with the DI614+ just won't work... (I also don't have any mac adress filtering active, and looking onto the router setup from the pc, the DHCP page says that the Touch HD is connected)
any hints, ideas or experiences?
Thank You,
regards jan

Have you tried changing the WLAN settings to "best performance"?
Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447415, maybe some of the tips there will help.
Regards
K_Hismoom

thank's, i'll try the "best performing" setting at home and report tomorrow...

i have tried the "best performance" setting yesterday, but it didn't change anything... still connected to the router, average to good signal strength but no connection to the internet... are there any special ports which must be opened for the HD? (as already said, the asus p535 did well on my router without changing anything, and the HD works in other wlans, too)...
any more ideas?
regards jan

somebody in the ppc-welt.inf forum has the same problem with the same router and doesn't know a solution either... here is a link to the data sheet of the router, maybe somebody who knows more than me about wireless networking may find a reason or hint for incompatibility...
http://www.ec-es.de/download/di614+_manual_202.pdf
best regards,
jan

I used the DI-614+ router and was unable to establish a WPA2-encrypted connection with a Touch Diamond. Finally I replaced it with a compact Linksys WRT54GC and have no WiFi connectivity problems neither with Diamond nor with Touch HD.

hausen said:
Hi,
I have a DLink WLAN Router DI 614+ at home and I just can't connect to the Internet with my touch HD. I'm using WEP 128bit encryption (The Router doesn't support WPA). The HD WLAN manager says that I'm connected to the WLAN, but I just can't access the Internet, neither with ie, opera, opera mini, weather update etc...
With my old ASUS P535 and my notebook the WLAN (and Internet) connection works fine, and other way round, i can also access other WEP encrypted WLANs (and Internet) with the HD... only the combination of the HD and my home WLAN with the DI614+ just won't work... (I also don't have any mac adress filtering active, and looking onto the router setup from the pc, the DHCP page says that the Touch HD is connected)
any hints, ideas or experiences?
Thank You,
regards jan
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
PPC need to manually configure the IP address, subnet mask, DNS server and Gateway
Can use the ping (your ppc's ip address) to see if there is significant also in HD on the browser using the IP address visit the router , if it can be a normal, then check dns server, if not consider IP gateways and encryption settings. try cancel your encryption settings.

HTC Touch HD to WiFi Secured - doesn't connect

Hi, I have HTC Touch HD New. I have home wireless secured router DHCP with (WPA2 Mixed) with paraphrase While trying to connect I ran through wizard to connect to my wireless no luck. Then gave static IP , changed WPA2 to WPA/TKP, changed channel from 5 to 11 no response, stopped Firewall, anything what can be done with router did…..no connection. The HD sees the network, but refuse to connect. Although, I am able to connect to an unsecured networks. All other media that connected to my wireless network works fine. Also I have noticed that wile running wizard the: "Use IEE8021x network access control" is checked and gray so I am unable to uncheck it. Maybe here is the problem.. no clue. Appreciate any suggestion.

Hi,
I can confirm I have the same problem.
Not only with Touch HD but also with HTC Rapheal.
If I find a solution I will let you know.

I had this problem too. In the wizard you have to specify it as a 'worknetwork', not 'internet'. The 'internet' option is for public (secured) networks like on a café. Then again, maybe you did this already. I have a WEP encryption.

You might also want to check, if your HD connects at all by turning off encryption in your WLAN router.
If your HD connects fine, then check in Advanced Config under the "Network" section, if you have WPA authentication enabled. My ROM had this disabled. After I enabled this option and made a soft-reset, my HD could connect to my WPA2(AES) secured network.

If everything else fails, you might try this free supplicant: http://www.securew2.com/products/
Please, report back if and how you resolved the problem !

None of the sugestions here (post #3, #4 and #5) solved my problem.
It's still not possible to connect to a secured network.
Tried without MAC filtering and vissible network but no joy.
I use WPA-PSK with a network key.
Unsecured it connects fine.
spasovxda said:
If everything else fails, you might try this free supplicant: http://www.securew2.com/products/
Please, report back if and how you resolved the problem !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I had the same problem with my Linksys Wrt54g Router using WPA-PSK, no matter what I tried it just would not connect. Without encryption or WEP encryption it worked just fine. Did set Wifi to performance oriented on the HD since that seems to have helped others but still no success.....
Here's the rub: I had installed Schaps Advanced Config tool before and had enabled WPA authentication under network. In a last attempt I set WPA Auth. to disabled, did a soft reset.....activated Wifi, entered my (27 character) passphrase and...my HD connects to my router using WPA-PSK and MAC-filtering without a problem...so that might be worth checking as well...

i hav no problem conneting my blackstone to my linksys wrt610 router using wpa2-aes. maybe you hav ur mac adres filtering turned on
just my 2 cents

Ditto post #8..
I have just connected for the first time to my work network, WPA-PSK(AES) and it connected fine without any problems.
Switched on CM, waited for the phone to list the networks, selected the one I needed and then choose "work" for connection and entered our passphrase. Sync'd up without a hitch.

Just to put this out there - do not connect your phone to the pc when trying to go wifi. It is disabled when activsync is... active.

Hi,
Thanks for the help.
Yes MAC filter is enabled but I've added the adress of HD to the list so it should work.
Today I've changed the channel in my Zyxel router to channel 11 and ques what....
IT WORKS FINALLY !
Channel 11 I choose because that's what the Touch HD chooses in WLan settings.
Maybe this helps for other people as well.
Edit;
A small update to mention.
I have two devices here, Touch Pro and Touch HD.
They both connect fine now.
Also the Touch Pro seems to pick channel 11 as default channel !
I would love to see someone confirms this because it was a real bugger to me.
Edit 2;
With MAC filter enabled both devices won't connect.
Weird thing is, both devices have the same MAC adres !
playboy4u2nv said:
i hav no problem conneting my blackstone to my linksys wrt610 router using wpa2-aes. maybe you hav ur mac adres filtering turned on
just my 2 cents
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Laurentius26 said:
...Weird thing is, both devices have the same MAC adres !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you sure you're seeing it correctly??? MAC addresses are unique, just as telephone numbers are unique to the phone system. Same concept. No two wifi devices are supposed to have the same mac address...
I was having the same issue: not being able to connect my HD to my wireless network. Very frustrating... Then I remembered I use a controlled Access List, on my wireless router, based on MAC addresses. Once I put my HD's MAC in the list, I was able to connect.

I made a mistake.
I connected both devices to the desktop with Active sync to find out MAC.
If I give the command 'IPCONFIG /ALL' both WM devices have the same physical adress,
but after I succesfull made a wifi connection (without MAC filter) with both devices,
I noticed that the MAC adresses are different on both devices in the router config window.
I've added both adresses to MAC filter and enable.
Now everything is up and running !
JesseW said:
Are you sure you're seeing it correctly??? MAC addresses are unique, just as telephone numbers are unique to the phone system. Same concept. No two wifi devices are supposed to have the same mac address...
I was having the same issue: not being able to connect my HD to my wireless network. Very frustrating... Then I remembered I use a controlled Access List, on my wireless router, based on MAC addresses. Once I put my HD's MAC in the list, I was able to connect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Laurentius26 said:
Channel 11 I choose because that's what the Touch HD chooses in WLan settings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can this be changed on the Touch HD? I don't seem to be able to change it. And channel 11 is a bit oversubscribed where I am...

razorblader said:
I had the same problem with my Linksys Wrt54g Router using WPA-PSK, no matter what I tried it just would not connect. Without encryption or WEP encryption it worked just fine. Did set Wifi to performance oriented on the HD since that seems to have helped others but still no success.....
Here's the rub: I had installed Schaps Advanced Config tool before and had enabled WPA authentication under network. In a last attempt I set WPA Auth. to disabled, did a soft reset.....activated Wifi, entered my (27 character) passphrase and...my HD connects to my router using WPA-PSK and MAC-filtering without a problem...so that might be worth checking as well...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i had the same problem. my hd use to connect fine with my wireless ruter untill yesterday. everything i tryed failed until i red this solution. i've done what razorblader suggested and guess what. it works flawless.
thank you!
it seems that the problem occurs after instaling advanced config 3.3, wich i did yesterday. for some reason it seems it mess the wifi settings.
thanks again!
i still have another problem, wich i have it since i bought the hd
i connect my laptop to my wifi router and it works great. i connect my hd to my wifi router and it works (again) great
but if i connect my hd to my laptop via usb and activesync, my laptop lose wifi connection. i reconnect it, keeps connection for few seconds and it loose it again.
any advice?
thank you!

Confirmed...
Had the same problem, Advanced Config WPA disabled works like a charm, if you enable it it actually disables it...

I connect to a Linksys broadband router with Mac filtering and WEP with no problems. Too lazy to try WPA2 because I'll have to reconfigure 3 PC's and two wireless printers. If I do try WPA(2), I post here.

I have WPA2-PSK with mac filtering and ssid broadcasting disabled. And I never had any problems, my router is linksys wag200 if it matters. Maybe you just do something wrong?

Wi-Fi and Active Sync
noris08 said:
i still have another problem, wich i have it since i bought the hd
i connect my laptop to my wifi router and it works great. i connect my hd to my wifi router and it works (again) great
but if i connect my hd to my laptop via usb and activesync, my laptop lose wifi connection. i reconnect it, keeps connection for few seconds and it loose it again.
any advice?
thank you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Note: This may be in a slightly different place in ActiveSync on XP.
I have Windows Mobile Device Center on Vista and I had the same trouble until I went to Mobile Device Settings > Connection Settings > check "Allow data connections on device when connected to PC"
(see attachment)
Just noticed you said laptop loses wi-fi.... I assumed HD loses wi-fi. My bad.

This may or may not help some of you, but I found out (the hard way) that the WLAN pre-shared key "passphrase" may only be 12 bytes long. Any more and it will not work.
-Valynor