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Locking / S2U2 / Stand by questions

Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?

Doesn't pressing the "End call" button for 2-3 seconds also lock the phone?
Regards!

I do understand what you're saying. I figured out something really basic just the other day, that is if your phone is locked or in sleep mode just pull out your stylus and it'll unlock and wake up.
Just 1 movement.
Sorry if this is really common knowledge and you already know this but sometimes we overlook the more basic functions on such a complex device!!
Cheers
DB

Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.

jon- said:
Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.
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Yep i do this too.
Press the power button mate, and it will lock the phone
I like how the phone unlocks when you take the stylus out but i didnt like how it locks the phone when you put the stylus back in, so i removed that function using the options in gyrator

I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.

is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????

matou25 said:
I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.
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why my HD no "Phone Canvas"?

Jezwick said:
is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????
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I searched a long time for this, but I didn´t find a solution

Standby locking
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.

surfaczer said:
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.
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Have you tried HDTweak?

ScarySquirrel said:
Have you tried HDTweak?
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Please explain

device lock
gt112 said:
Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?
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Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon

JPW said:
Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon
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You're Irish too, I presume?
The other option is you attached a very small cab.

OOOPS forgot cab
have edited post now
Jon

Should the device lock when I put the stylus in? I get the impression from this thread that it should but mine doesn't?

call answer problem

Hi, when someone calling to me two soft buttons are working so it can accidentaly answer or drop the call, slider is working as well how can I switch them off / htc hd ROM 1.19.61.1 WWE Orange radio 1.09.25.14
thanks

Moved out of dev
Not sure you can switch the pick and hang up off, would also not see the point.

can't see the point?
Not sure you can switch the pick and hang up off, would also not see the point.
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Are you kidding me? You have a slider that avoids accidential answers and hang-ups, and you have two buttons that youre bound to press when getting the phone out of the pocket. How can you not see this point? It's like having a locked door right next to a huge open window, with freshly baked cookies on the table inside, and not understanding that this could be a security issue.

kentpaulsen said:
Are you kidding me? You have a slider that avoids accidential answers and hang-ups, and you have two buttons that youre bound to press when getting the phone out of the pocket. How can you not see this point? It's like having a locked door right next to a huge open window, with freshly baked cookies on the table inside, and not understanding that this could be a security issue.
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Valid point,
Guess I never had that problem and also never had the problem of wanting to turn the slider off as I use the buttons (hence I don't see the point of turning them off).

HDuser said:
Valid point,
Guess I never had that problem and also never had the problem of wanting to turn the slider off as I use the buttons (hence I don't see the point of turning them off).
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I'm with HDuser on this one. I only use the buttons so have phone locked so I can't accidentally answer phone whilst in pocket.

Thanks guys but my HD even if is locked still can answer slider and two soft buttons - meaby this couse by one of programs i've installed :gyrator, touch response, kaiser sim fix, htc rodium menu..., but it not function in any of it so i don't know. I want only slider.

wrong understood
guys you wrong understood me I do not want slider off - just soft buttons - slider is fine - if any new ideas - thanks.

You could change the button action to a double tap in aebplus so you are less likely to activate them.
Sully

hungabunga said:
You could change the button action to a double tap in aebplus so you are less likely to activate them.
Sully
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hi what aebplus is? where can I find it?
thanks sully

aebplus lets you change the actions of the buttons on WM devices. Website here http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I used it to change the volume buttons to up and down buttons.
It is free to try but well worth the money.
Sully

Prevent screen switching off during phone call

Hi,
I have read and tried what I could find, but it does not work on my Jade.
Are there any new ideas how to keep the screen from swithching off?
Joe
This is copied from the Jade Manual:
Call functions
When a call is in progress, tap the available buttons on the Phone screen to put a
call on hold, dial another contact for a phone conference, enter notes about the
conversation, and more.
None of the above is possible because the screen disappears by itself.
Do HTC know about it? This seems to be a major f...up.

This problem has been discussed in many threads, there is no real solution.
If you activate the speaker for hands-free immediately after connecting the screen keeps on.

on mine the screen goes off... but if i press one fo the direction buttons it comes back on and stays on so i can use the keypad or look at contacts etc

Thank you guys.
I will try to contact HTC because I think this is a major fault. There is no access to those Call Functions if the screen disappears.
But people should also have the choice of switching the screen off to conserve battery during long conversations. That should be one of the Call Functions.
I tried to bring the screen back by pressing the OK button, but instead it ended the call. So why do we need the END button ?? Poor HTC. They are in front of themselves. Ever producing new half-baked models without thinking it properly out.
I have not tried the < or > buttons, but it would be risky because usually the OK button gets activated as well.
Has anybody on any HTC forum tried to petition HTC? I think this issue would be a nice one for a petition.
Joe

you say you dont want the screen to switch off but u dont want the < and > active?
tring to understand what you want/dont want here?
if i press < or > the screen comes on fully functional...

I did not say I did not want the < > keys active. I don't care what those keys do because I don't use them. The reason is that when I use them, I always inadvertently activate the Enter button. On my phone that terminates the call - the same as the End key.
It would be nice (and even logical) to have the Enter (OK) button to wake up the screen instead of the directional buttons. Maybe there is a registry tweak to do that.
Joe

jfranek said:
I did not say I did not want the < > keys active. I don't care what those keys do because I don't use them. The reason is that when I use them, I always inadvertently activate the Enter button. On my phone that terminates the call - the same as the End key.
It would be nice (and even logical) to have the Enter (OK) button to wake up the screen instead of the directional buttons. Maybe there is a registry tweak to do that.
Joe
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I think it's about getting used to and familiarising with the intended design and button functions. Now after nearly 12 months using Jade I have no complaints. Even using phone banking, no problem with inputting the required numbers. Concur with MvBoe and DJHicks. It should also be acknowledged that this is 80% PDA and 20%phone (roughly).
MvBoe said:
This problem has been discussed in many threads, there is no real solution.
If you activate the speaker for hands-free immediately after connecting the screen keeps on.
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DJHicks said:
on mine the screen goes off... but if i press one fo the direction buttons it comes back on and stays on so i can use the keypad or look at contacts etc
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I was playing with the < and > keys to try to bring the screen back on, and I can definitelly tell you it does not work on my phone.
While doing that, I accidentally pressed the Power on/off switch - and voilá - the screen came back on and stayed on.
I repeated the experiment to confirm it.
Why didn't I think of it earlier? So obvious.
Joe

jfranek said:
I was playing with the < and > keys to try to bring the screen back on, and I can definitelly tell you it does not work on my phone.
While doing that, I accidentally pressed the Power on/off switch - and voilá - the screen came back on and stayed on. I repeated the experiment to confirm it. Why didn't I think of it earlier? So obvious. Joe
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Good for you Joe. I suppose many other Jade users are already using that method. I thought you knew it already but wanting something more simpler.

azahidi said:
Good for you Joe. I suppose many other Jade users are already using that method. I thought you knew it already but wanting something more simpler.
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Originally Posted by jfranek View Post
I was playing with the < and > keys to try to bring the screen back on, and I can definitelly tell you it does not work on my phone.
While doing that, I accidentally pressed the Power on/off switch - and voilá - the screen came back on and stayed on. I repeated the experiment to confirm it. Why didn't I think of it earlier? So obvious. Joe
Hi azadhidi
correct me if im wrong is this not the only method to wake ur phone while making a call ie pressing the power button

haree said:
Quote: correct me if im wrong is this not the only method to wake ur phone while making a call ie pressing the power button
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Also with other buttons if you set your phone to wake up with all buttons. See item #10 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476493

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hello all. Im a use rof an old spv. and just got my new HTC HD2
a few questions if i may? i can't figure out and ive been trying since last night, i've searched google high and low as well and called tmobile.
1. the phone when it dims and then goes to sleep, i have to always press a hard button then slide the lock to unlock... is there away to disablehaving to press a hardbutton? it gets really annoying having to press ahardbutton every minute when the phone goes to sleep!
2. when the phone dims after 10 seconds is there a way to set it up so that your first press just undims the screen and doesnt actually press whats under neath it?
3. ive read all over google about the gesture feature, ive asked tmobile. and i cannot get my phone to do any gestures what so ever. ive download and installed the shake and wake and still nothing. i download a program called pocketshield and that completelly locked me out of phone becuase when i shook it it wouldnt turn on i had to take off battery wait a minute and then replace the battery then uninstall the app.
4.the media players.. ive tried coreplayer, windows media player, pocketplayer, the one that plays the most files is coreplayer.. ive noticed in fullscreen mode there are no buttons? everytime i tap the screen ti brings me back to portrait view... is there any recomendaions for a player similiar to core player that has controls on the big screen in landscape view? and that offers all the features coreplayer does? eq, visualizations, plays as many file types etc...
5. ive looked everywhere on how to change email icons the envelopes.. is there away to change those or do we just have to remember the order of the email icons?
thanks for any help or light you guys can shed! i really hope some of these issues can beresolved. i feel ive exhausted my xda,google searching, and phone settings searching.

1. It would consume lots of battery power to constantly monitor the touch screen. You can increase the amount of time before it goes to sleep.

ok i'll just have to deal with it an dwill raise the time.. ty for reply.. anyone else on the other questions please?
TY in advance

could anyone one confirm that the hd2 from the usa allows for shaking? ive rest phone and it doesnt work called tmobile and they have no clue! i'd liek to get me phone to be able to work with gestures.
Thanks

let me rephrase. does anyone know if the htc hd2 has... Windows Mobile phone with a tilt sensor / accelerometer/ g-sensor. or the ability to shake it and it will wake up?
thank you

It has an accelerometer, but there's NO shake to wake up.
Only way to wake up is to press a hard button.
5. if you mean the dirrerent e-mail accounts in sense, when you press on the "slider" that's on the active account and drag it, its expands to the left and shows the account name.

ok.. then what about the posts here about shaking it and tilting it? and what about pocketshield saying that you can shake it, and this link as well?
http://www.mobinauts.com/topic/110094-shake-to-wake-up-your-htc-hd2/
thanks for your reply!!!!. it's like pulling teeth in this forum very tough to get replies!

Apparently the shake to wake is a somewhat "experimental" add-on someone on here made and abandoned, works for some and not for others... nothing official, normal that tmo have no clue about it.
No idea about pocketshield, haven't read reports about that particular function on the HD2. Not very popular apparently, so you'll have to try yourself.
TMO support will help you about what was on your HD2 when you got it, nothing else that you'd install later.

thanx for reply.. well that pocketshield can be dangerous for some.luckily when ya replace battery it brings back the default slider. otherwise people would be locked out of there phones.
one last question and i promise to stay away for awhile.
how to u turn your backlight back on? example you have it set to dim after a minute. and your app. is there a way to undim the phone? instead of clicking on the screen or touching a button and it recognizing your touch and undimming it and selecting whatever you touched? i'd liek to be able to just touch something and it would undim and not select something underneath where i touched.
thanks

Not that I know of. It's been so with every touchsceen device I've ever had, need to either press a hardware key, which usually will do something too, or touch the screen and try to tap in an empty place.
Personally I don't use dim, I've set both dim and turn off to 1min.

xtacybyme said:
it's like pulling teeth in this forum very tough to get replies!
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That's because this is a developers' site, not a phone support forum.
Discussions are for developing programs, apps and other fun stuff.
If you want tech support there's many forums out there.
You should not be asking questions on here, about how to use your new T-Mobile HD2. I'm surprised your thread has not been locked.

xtacybyme said:
hello all. Im a use rof an old spv. and just got ... i download a program called pocketshield and that completelly locked me out of phone becuase when i shook it it wouldnt turn on
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Of course it won't turn on by shaking, phone must be ON for any gesture to be recognized. It is the hardware nature of these type of phones(you always need to press the hardkey, unless it is the phone turning on by itself).
Now, if you meant it didn't unlock when shaking after power on then maybe your g-sensor is not calibrated or you were doing the movement wrong. Take a look at minute 1:20, see how the movement is done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47BFSLnmBLI#t=1m20s

thanks for replies i was away out of town.
That's because this is a developers' site, not a phone support forum.
Discussions are for developing programs, apps and other fun stuff.
If you want tech support there's many forums out there.
You should not be asking questions on here, about how to use your new T-Mobile HD2. I'm surprised your thread has not been locked.
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there were many others here asking for help so i thought i could. my apologies. i will search and post elsewhere.
Of course it won't turn on by shaking, phone must be ON for any gesture to be recognized. It is the hardware nature of these type of phones(you always need to press the hardkey, unless it is the phone turning on by itself).
Now, if you meant it didn't unlock when shaking after power on then maybe your g-sensor is not calibrated or you were doing the movement wrong. Take a look at minute 1:20, see how the movement is done:
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i did tap the hard button first and then tried the shake movement, and i was locked out. i will redownload pocket and give a fair chance again by following the movement given in the video you posted.. thank you for the explanations guys.

Problem with HTC HD 2

When I press the hang up button to turn the screen of and then I turn it back on and you have to slide, when that screen comes up I can't slide it across it just simply wont let me no matter how hard I try. I would appreciate. it if someone can help me with this.

What lock screen are you using mate?

Wish I knew, lol.

sniper-wolf said:
What lock screen are you using mate?
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The one that came with the phone, Just slide it to the left or right and when you get a message you can press then slide for message only.

any one?...

Metta24 said:
When I press the hang up button to turn the screen of and then I turn it back on and you have to slide, when that screen comes up I can't slide it across it just simply wont let me no matter how hard I try. I would appreciate. it if someone can help me with this.
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Try a hard reset!

I had a similar problem with my phone. The slider would not move left or right so it was impossible to unlock the phone. It was very frustrating.
After a few episodes of this I noticed that when it happened the hard buttons below the screen did not illuminate but if I woke up the phone using any one of these buttons and held the button down until all of the buttons lit up the slider would work. This was more of a work-around rather than a fix.
More recently, since installing the remarkable Co0kies Home Tab, I have not experienced any unlocking problems whatsoever.
Hope this helps.

Talk to your ROM chef (if it´s not stock). Try a soft-reset, if it wont help backup your system and do a hard-reset.

My Rom chef? I don't get what you mean by Chef haha, It is stock rom and what files do I back up with a hard reset?