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Hi. New user here. I rooted my G1 a couple of days ago. I love it.
I was thinking of cool stuff I can now do with my phone, and I came up with this idea... A WiFi business card. It is more of just a bragging thing for the phone...
I walk up to a smart phone user. I tell them to connect adhoc to my phone and bring up a browser. Any page that they load while connected gets redirected to an apache server on my phone. It brings up my picture, a resume, and any other stats that I want to show off.. (Or anything else, the sky's the limit on this one.)
I am thinking that it could be turned off and on with a toggle of some sort.
Again, this is not really a "useful" thing, is is more of a "look what I can do" thing.
I am thinking that it would use bits and pieces of apache, squid, the adhoc tethering app, and ipchains, kind of mixed together and stripped down for speed.
Thoughts?
I'm not trying to shoot you down for thinking outside the box...
But heres what I'm thinking: the way to get most info to them is to create a 2d barcode and have a shortcut on your desktop to display it so they can scan it with their phones camera. (as more and more phones support reading 2d barcodes)
Most likely this is faster to display for you and scan for them then configuring an adhoc network on their device.
Obviously I would have several 2d bitmaps to choose from:
personal card
business card
url(s) I want them to have
etc
You can get a reader for other phones and create QR codes here:
http://mobilecodes.nokia.com/scan.htm
I actually just created 3 barcodes and stuck them in my /sdcard/barcodes dir and created a shortcut to that folder on my desktop using Linda File Manager. Works pretty well. Click on the Barcodes link on the desktop. Pick an image. It opens in the picture viewer.
Well, it is not just for business cards and such. Really it could be anything. An advertisement, pictures, bio, directions, a map, an event, etc.
Like I said before, it is not for a purpose, it is really just another show off tool that proves how much you can do with this phone.
I understand
Why am I hacking up some of the stuff I'm doing? Just for fun.
- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
FirefighterDown said:
- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
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Microsoft have said from the beginning that WM7 would not support tethering.
So its no great surprise, well to some it is.
FirefighterDown said:
- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
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There are MUCH MORE features that WP7 has missed out
but it's the 1st version of OS, what did you expect?
the 1st version of iOS and Android are even suckier than WP7
I gonna list out some features WP7 missed out...
MMS support other than pictures (Audio/Contacts) (Only 1 MMS at a time)
Contacts Sharing
Custom Fields in Contacts
IE Homepage
Text Reflow (Mail/IE)
WiFi static IP
HomeScreen Wallpaper
Customize Dictionary
Turn Off Auto-Rotate
Mail ability to add attachments other than Pictures
Voice Recorder
Chinese/Unicode Input
Local Search (The Local in Bing Search means places around you, not in-phone)
SkyDrive support
Flash
Pictures Editing
Audio Trimming
Grid View for Apps (HTC Android can toggle Grid/List)
Backup? (For apps data I mean, games data will be saved in xbox live)
External Storage
Touch Focus for Camera (Auto focus while video is already impressive, but I need some manual focus)
Silent mode/Voicemail mode (I don't always want vibrate, I want to COMPLETELY IGNORE sometimes)
Integration of Facebook User's Birthday to Calander
Battery Percentage/Usage Statistics
And Most IMPORTANT... Homebrew apps!! (.xap files w/o DRM can be installed w/o a developer's account)
That's all for now... or maybe that's all I need for a ultimate phone for now...
I think I have played around WP7 enough for now... It's not enough for everyday use YET.... going back to Android and wait for a few WP7 updates before returning
It's going to drive all the corporate users away too... I spend 3 1/2 hours trying to get an intermediate certificate installed so that it can sync with my Exchange server. The cert needs to be in the Root store but WP7 puts it in the Intermediate store. I have no control over the stores themselves. I don't want or need to pay for a Root cert from Verisign or whatever - I only use the cert for encryption. Without it being in the Root store synchronization errors out with a certificate error. I can't "go through the cloud" because my business is regulated in a way that would preclude that.
Android simply ignores the fact that it isn't a "valid" Root cert and simply uses it for encryption and WM 6.5 etc. accepts the cert "as is". Since I'm replacing a user's broken HD2 and it will have to last 18 months I'm going with an Android. I'd stick with the HD2 but they are going to start becoming scarce and the user is our COO who is "technology aware" so I'm going in a direction that I believe she will be happiest with.
Sorry MS but you really screwed the pooch with WP7...
- skype
- batery info
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bountygiver said:
I gonna list out some features WP7 missed out...
MMS support other than pictures (Audio/Contacts) (Only 1 MMS at a time)
Contacts Sharing
Custom Fields in Contacts
IE Homepage
Text Reflow (Mail/IE)
WiFi static IP
HomeScreen Wallpaper
Customize Dictionary
Turn Off Auto-Rotate
Mail ability to add attachments other than Pictures
Voice Recorder
Chinese/Unicode Input
Local Search (The Local in Bing Search means places around you, not in-phone)
SkyDrive support
Flash
Pictures Editing
Audio Trimming
Grid View for Apps (HTC Android can toggle Grid/List)
Backup? (For apps data I mean, games data will be saved in xbox live)
External Storage
Touch Focus for Camera (Auto focus while video is already impressive, but I need some manual focus)
Silent mode/Voicemail mode (I don't always want vibrate, I want to COMPLETELY IGNORE sometimes)
Integration of Facebook User's Birthday to Calander
Battery Percentage/Usage Statistics
And Most IMPORTANT... Homebrew apps!! (.xap files w/o DRM can be installed w/o a developer's account)
That's all for now... or maybe that's all I need for a ultimate phone for now...
I think I have played around WP7 enough for now... It's not enough for everyday use YET.... going back to Android and wait for a few WP7 updates before returning
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I'd have to agree totally, after having it on for 24 hours and messing around with it I'm finding it extremely basic as to what it offers. It looks good don't get me wrong, but I'm going joining you in going back to Android until there's a few updates applied
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It's going to drive all the corporate users away too... I spend 3 1/2 hours trying to get an intermediate certificate installed so that it can sync with my Exchange server. The cert needs to be in the Root store but WP7 puts it in the Intermediate store. I have no control over the stores themselves. I don't want or need to pay for a Root cert from Verisign or whatever - I only use the cert for encryption. Without it being in the Root store synchronization errors out with a certificate error. I can't "go through the cloud" because my business is regulated in a way that would preclude that.
Android simply ignores the fact that it isn't a "valid" Root cert and simply uses it for encryption and WM 6.5 etc. accepts the cert "as is". Since I'm replacing a user's broken HD2 and it will have to last 18 months I'm going with an Android. I'd stick with the HD2 but they are going to start becoming scarce and the user is our COO who is "technology aware" so I'm going in a direction that I believe she will be happiest with.
Sorry MS but you really screwed the pooch with WP7...
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Well tbh WP7 isnt really supposed to be a business phone, If you want it for business go for the legacy OS as that was designed specifically for business needs.
Camera flash led
Did you realise that only one led is really working or it is only with me? If not, is there any solution??
Hello everyone,
I heard that you can't download all kinds of files on a WP8 , thus rendering you limited to a certain number of formats. (and as far as I understood there are issues with e-mail downloads and opening some files?...)
Which formats are we limited to? Is Microsoft willing to address this issue? Is it a deal-breaker or can you still use the phone? Are there any issues with download such as the ability to only view the files and not actually download them?
Many thanks,
Alex.
i would think its possible after reading this http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-8-has-new-api-for-loading-music-from-apps-into-the-music-hub/
as far as downloading music files but i havent seen anyone develop anything to test it out and showcase this ability
Dunno, maybe Nokia Xpress browser can do something? ..
Deformat said:
Hello everyone,
I heard that you can't download all kinds of files on a WP8 , thus rendering you limited to a certain number of formats. (and as far as I understood there are issues with e-mail downloads and opening some files?...)
Which formats are we limited to? Is Microsoft willing to address this issue? Is it a deal-breaker or can you still use the phone? Are there any issues with download such as the ability to only view the files and not actually download them?
Many thanks,
Alex.
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You are correct. In both email and browser, you can not download any type of file and save it somewhere. You can open a few types only, and even then, the phone will save them automatically I believe (pdf,doc,mp3).
I wish I knew what MS was thinking on this and what they are willing to do in the future. But of course, they dont say anything as far as their plans. I would love the ability to save any type of file to a folder I chose, no matter if I can open it with the phone or not. Only MS knows their thoughts on this. I wish there was someone I could contact to find out what their feelings are on it and if they are even entertaining the idea of this for the future. they are too tight lipped about future updates.
i'm using wp7.5 and i can download and open zip files.. but can't save it. After you close the zip file it's gone
we really need a file explorer
HypeZ85 said:
i'm using wp7.5 and i can download and open zip files.. but can't save it. After you close the zip file it's gone
we really need a file explorer
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Yep. And sadly, we most likely wont get one. At least not an official one. The only way we could get one with WP7, I think you had to be able to side load apps and be interop unlocked. Not 100 percent sure on the interop part, but it basically wasnt something available to everyone. I hear people say we dont need custom roms and hacks.....sorry, but YES we do. If MS is going to lock down half the OS, then YES we absolutely need hacks and Custom ROMs.
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Yep. And sadly, we most likely wont get one. At least not an official one. The only way we could get one with WP7, I think you had to be able to side load apps and be interop unlocked. Not 100 percent sure on the interop part, but it basically wasnt something available to everyone. I hear people say we dont need custom roms and hacks.....sorry, but YES we do. If MS is going to lock down half the OS, then YES we absolutely need hacks and Custom ROMs.
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i'm confused...
if you can't download files on wp, how would i do this:
navigate to college website, login portal, download
powerpoint
notes,
zips, etc containing course materials ?
students email powerpoint slides and annotate those slides as needed to each other also.
is this not possible to do on the platform, still ?
please, this is a very -direct- process. i would prefer to keep things out of the cloud (ie skydrive, dropbox, whoever) and KEEP it a DIRECT process.
thanks !
ohgood said:
i'm confused...
if you can't download files on wp, how would i do this:
navigate to college website, login portal, download
powerpoint
notes,
zips, etc containing course materials ?
students email powerpoint slides and annotate those slides as needed to each other also.
is this not possible to do on the platform, still ?
please, this is a very -direct- process. i would prefer to keep things out of the cloud (ie skydrive, dropbox, whoever) and KEEP it a DIRECT process.
thanks !
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I should clarify something.
If it is one of the following, I believe the phone will save it automatically once you open it. Powerpoint, PDF, Dox, exel file, text, audio. You click the link to download and the file will open. It will save automatically or you have the option to save it sometimes. Other than those file types, you cant do much with anything else.
I downloaded a ZIP file, and while I could actually open it, I had no option to save it. And when I mean download, the phone downloads it, but does not save it in a location you have access to. So without a File Explorer or MS updating the download and save file feature, we wont have access to any files except the types I listed.
Use UC brower, it can download all stuff , but you will need to upload it to skydrive to access it outside the browser.
surya467 said:
Use UC brower, it can download all stuff , but you will need to upload it to skydrive to access it outside the browser.
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this is not a download solution. the whole point of the thread (so far) is if its possible (and how) to download files to the phone, and then access those files.
the point of downloading a file to a device is to use, edit, and store that file -on- the device.
surya467 said:
Use UC brower, it can download all stuff , but you will need to upload it to skydrive to access it outside the browser.
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I still prefer MS change it by allowing us to have control over saving files to the phone and having access to that folder. When I need to then get those files from my phone to my computer, Skydrive doesnt help when I am working somewhere and there is no WIFI, which happens a lot for me. And no, I will not pay more to have tethering.
You can currently save office documents and also send those via E-Mail, Bluetooth, NFC (well - depends, currently only works with other Windows devices). The one notable exception currently is PDF-files that have been openend directly from the browser (if they were stored on SkyDrive it works).
You can open Zip-Files and contained files but the Zip-Files themselves are not stored.
Aside from the file types reserved for the system (there is a list in MSDN) Apps can register as compatible with those filetypes. E.g. Autodesk could create an AutoCAD-Viewer that registers for the *.DWG Filetype. If you then receive such a file via E-Mail, SkyDrive, Download, etc. and open it the according application will be launched and that application will have to take care of the file (display, storage, etc.)
If you don't have an App on the phone that can handle the filetype you can launch a search on the Store for Apps that support the filetype. Should you have multiple Apps installed that support the filetype you will be provided with a prompt that asks you what you want to do.
As far as I know that is pretty much the same way iOS handles those situations but I might be mistaken there.
It's time to show a little more love for arguably the best browser for the NST/G
I've been reading up on the whole TLS 1.2 thing and bemoaning the gradual eroding of the NST/G internet capabilities as various apps wink out of usefulness due to the recent change. I felt the same way about Opera Mobile 12.10, especially when I had finally figured out an app for Google News, only to find that many of the external links could not be opened, presumably due to this new security protocol.
Imagine my surprise today when I revisited the configuration screen for Opera Mobile and saw that even on this nearly prehistoric app there is an option for TLS 1.2!! Once I had selected that I could suddenly navigate to all kinds of sites that were previously snubbing me! Woo-hoo!
The procedure, in pictures, below. Love live Opera Mobile (at least until TLS 1.3).
Edit: I should mention that this has nothing to do with the recent NST/G update to 1.2.2. B&N only added TLS 1.2 handshaking for their own purchasing system, not anything else. I have one device running 1.2.1 and one updated to 1.2.2. They are identical in their need for and response to this change in settings for Opera Mobile.
Edit, Edit: I've been looking at this issue again recently and found sites that actually test the browser and recommend changes in settings. It turns out that ONLY the TLS 1.2 should be enabled, not older protocols. One site also recommended disabling the SSL v.3, but my tests with two devices trying to access the same sites indicated that was a bad idea.
My most unexpected discovery was a post on an Opera board somewhere that suggested simply clearing cache (from the Menu: Settings>Privacy>Clear Cache) will often allow access to sites that initially give a security connection error. This actually seems to work in many cases. I have no idea why, but it prompted me to try unticking ALL cache settings except for "Empty on Exit" (last screenshot below). Don't forget to "Save" at the end of that section before exiting.
This is great, thank you!
Has anyone gotten this tweak to allow you to sign into Overdrive (online library) websites? New York Public Library's Overdrive page, nypl.overdrive.com still won't let me sign in, even with both TLS 1.1 and 1.2. For the record I think I'm still actually on firmware 1.1.0
jptiger said:
This is great, thank you!
Has anyone gotten this tweak to allow you to sign into Overdrive (online library) websites? New York Public Library's Overdrive page, nypl.overdrive.com still won't let me sign in, even with both TLS 1.1 and 1.2. For the record I think I'm still actually on firmware 1.1.0
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That was the second thing I tried. No joy. Unfortunately there is zero information in a logcat of my unsuccessful session, almost as though the system was ignoring the browser activity entirely, so nothing to work with there.
Out on a limb here, but it could be a case of no contact with systems older than the oldest one to still support an Overdrive app (2.3, I think?). When I encounter a site that still won't connect with Opera Mobile, despite the addition of TLS 1.2, I think that's similar. Such an old browser (and OS) is seen as a security issue. Now exactly how the determination is made, that I don't know. It seems unlikely that it's something as simple as the User Agent string, as I have two NSTs, one running 1.2.2 and the older one with 1.2.1. I'm pretty sure I have not done anything with the UA string on the 1.2.2 device (it's a beast to type in) but I know I altered the other one to match the original stock browser on the device. I'll have to run down both values to see if there's something about the OS in there.
If the sites have a way of querying the system to recognize whether it is "safe" or not, then there's not much to be done. There was that one older version of UC Mini Browser which was able to negotiate a login at one time, but even if you could get into the library's Overdrive section, the closest you would come to a book is downloading the acsm file and then what? AFAIK there is no way to deal with it on the device itself. It would have to be processed on a PC and then transferred to the NST.
Login would allow you to checkout Kindle books and even confirm the download at the Amazon site (painful as that is), but I don't see how to make the epub thing work solely on the device any longer short of a new OS. That's way beyond my pay grade. I'm curious about it but recognize that it's not something I'm going to pick up at this stage of my life. Too bad the few projects directed at that weren't more modest in their goals. A change to just Gingerbread would have made a huge difference, although even with that, the handwriting is surely on the wall.
but even if you could get into the library's Overdrive section, the closest you would come to a book is downloading the acsm file and then what?
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Open the file with Aldiko! I actually used to do this all the time, it was the main way I used to interact with Overdrive for years. Worked great... until I wasn't able to log into Overdrive sites and access my holds any more.
You might need a specific old version of Aldiko, I'd bet I found it on these forums somewhere. I'm writing this on my phone on a subway, otherwise I'd link here. Moot point atm anyway.
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Open the file with Aldiko! I actually used to do this all the time, it was the main way I used to interact with Overdrive for years. Worked great... until I wasn't able to log into Overdrive sites and access my holds any more.
You might need a specific old version of Aldiko, I'd bet I found it on these forums somewhere. I'm writing this on my phone on a subway, otherwise I'd link here. Moot point atm anyway.
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There may yet be a magic version of Aldiko that can do this, but I think the operative word in your response might be "used" to interact with Overdrive.
I don't know why but I decided to look at this issue again and stumbled on @straygecko's post re: Overdrive and Aldiko here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35917607&postcount=2
I scrounged around for a "2.0" version of Aldiko and came up with 2.00.081 (maybe close enough?). Anyway, it does install and the first few steps of the procedure @straygecko outlines actually work great, even the sign in with Adobe--which I found shocking. I was able to painfully add my local library's Overdrive URL to the "My Catalogs" section and actually "browse" to the URL, if you can call it that. If we think Opera Mobile is antique, think more along the lines of the stock NST browser. Mostly floating text appears here and there, lots of broken images, and Search does not seem to work. Oh, and scrolling up the page? LOL! If you can get lower on the page to something like "available now", the screen will not update. It may not be absolutely necessary but while I was chortling and grimacing I also tried the "sign in" option. In little tiny letters across the top of the screen comes the "oops! something went wrong" message, all too familiar.
I hope, I really do hope that there is another version of Aldiko 2.0 that would work. But the post by @straygecko was from 2012 and while at my age that seems not so long ago, in the world of Android, it might as well be 500 BCE.
For your entertainment, I attach the version of Aldiko I was able to scare up. YMMV.
Odd. I think you might be trying to make Aldiko do a different part than I was referring to. Here was my usual workflow after installing Aldiko and logging into my Adobe ID on it:
1 open opera mobile
2 navigate to my library's overdrive page
3 sign in (not currently working)
4 browse and check out an epub ebook
5 download the ascm file
6 when prompted about what to do with it open it aldiko
7 Aldiko then downloads the epub using your Adobe ID and shows it in your library until it expires
If those are the steps you're following, where do you hit the unreadable text? After the book downloads?
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Odd. I think you might be trying to make Aldiko do a different part than I was referring to. Here was my usual workflow after installing Aldiko and logging into my Adobe ID on it:
1 open opera mobile
2 navigate to my library's overdrive page
3 sign in (not currently working)
4 browse and check out an epub ebook
5 download the ascm file
6 when prompted about what to do with it open it aldiko
7 Aldiko then downloads the epub using your Adobe ID and shows it in your library until it expires
If those are the steps you're following, where do you hit the unreadable text? After the book downloads?
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You're right, those were not my steps. On my local library Overdrive site it is not possible to check out an eBook without eventually signing in. Catch-22.
nmyshkin said:
It's time to show a little more love for arguably the best browser for the NST/G
I've been reading up on the whole TLS 1.2 thing and bemoaning the gradual eroding of the NST/G internet capabilities as various apps wink out of usefulness due to the recent change. I felt the same way about Opera Mobile 12.10, especially when I had finally figured out an app for Google News, only to find that many of the external links could not be opened, presumably due to this new security protocol.
Imagine my surprise today when I revisited the configuration screen for Opera Mobile and saw that even on this nearly prehistoric app there is an option for TLS 1.2!! Once I had selected that I could suddenly navigate to all kinds of sites that were previously snubbing me! Woo-hoo!
The procedure, in pictures, below. Love live Opera Mobile (at least until TLS 1.3).
Edit: I should mention that this has nothing to do with the recent NST/G update to 1.2.2. B&N only added TLS 1.2 handshaking for their own purchasing system, not anything else. I have one device running 1.2.1 and one updated to 1.2.2. They are identical in their need for and response to this change in settings for Opera Mobile.
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Wow. I have tried every other browser. This is definitely the only one that works. Thanks so much for the info.
lz199366 said:
Could you share your Opera Mobile.apk? I can't get opera 12.1.0 install on my NST(firmware1.1.2).
Besides, which app did you use to take screenshot in Black&White color ? I tried screenshot ER before. It is good but producing shots in colors only.
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Opera Mobile: https://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/android/mobile/1210/
For screenshots, I made two apps. The original produces slightly gray b&w images. The second gives better quality color images. Here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/themes-apps/app-screenshot-t3648855. When I post images I always convert to greyscale anyway since that's what will be seen on the device.
That older firmware may be a problem. B&N did actually have reasons to update firmware now and then. If the Opera Mobile will not run you might try Opera Classic. Some people said it worked for them.
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Just a bump to bring this post back up again. I've done some additional tests with different settings lately and have improved the connection success rate quite a bit. Changes reflected now in the original post.
Since you're bumping the thread maybe you can help me with a problem? I think I've tried this APK on my last three Nooks (Glowlight Plus, NG3, and now Glowlight Plus 7.8) and every time I launch Opera Classic from my launcher I get a short splash screen that says "Opera Mobile" and then it immediately dies. Nothing shows in my "running process" screen either (so it's not just hidden in the background).
Any idea where to start looking as far as logs, etc. go? I've never really had much use for a browser on a Nook before, but with the 7.8" display my interest is somewhat piqued again...
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Since you're bumping the thread maybe you can help me with a problem? I think I've tried this APK on my last three Nooks (Glowlight Plus, NG3, and now Glowlight Plus 7.8) and every time I launch Opera Classic from my launcher I get a short splash screen that says "Opera Mobile" and then it immediately dies. Nothing shows in my "running process" screen either (so it's not just hidden in the background).
Any idea where to start looking as far as logs, etc. go? I've never really had much use for a browser on a Nook before, but with the 7.8" display my interest is somewhat piqued again...
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Mmm.....first, this is Opera Mobile 12.1, not Opera Classic, although I don't think that is the issue. Not sure about the Glowlight Plus, but I think the others run at least KitKat? My first suspicion was that Opera Mobile (or Opera Classic) might be too old for those devices, but I just tried installing it on my SIM-less KitKat "phone" and it did just fine.
So maybe screen density? It's hard to know. Like @Renate NST says, a logcat might reveal the cause of the crash--or not. Meanwhile I should think that with a KitKat device there must be a number of more modern browsers that would work OK. I recommend Via Browser. Slick and simple, small footprint. Requires Android 2.3 and up (too bad the NST just missed it...). I run it on my Oreo 8.1 tablet and love it.
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Mmm.....first, this is Opera Mobile 12.1, not Opera Classic, although I don't think that is the issue. Not sure about the Glowlight Plus, but I think the others run at least KitKat? My first suspicion was that Opera Mobile (or Opera Classic) might be too old for those devices, but I just tried installing it on my SIM-less KitKat "phone" and it did just fine.
So maybe screen density? It's hard to know. Like @Renate NST says, a logcat might reveal the cause of the crash--or not. Meanwhile I should think that with a KitKat device there must be a number of more modern browsers that would work OK. I recommend Via Browser. Slick and simple, small footprint. Requires Android 2.3 and up (too bad the NST just missed it...). I run it on my Oreo 8.1 tablet and love it.
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Ah yes, I forgot that the original NGP was where the jump to KitKat occurred which opened up more options for apps. I'm going to give Via a try - thanks for the quick response!
First problem:
Our (at least my) /system/lib/libgui.so does not have
status_t GraphicBuffer::lock(GGLSurface* sur, uint32_t usage)
The Opera libOS15.so requires it
Eclair had this function, I don't think KitKat has it.
I think this Opera "Opera_Mobile_12_1_Generic_Opera_Armv5v7.apk" was designed for Eclair and uses stuff no longer in KitKat.
You need to find a different APK.
@myshkin Once again, you've answered one of my questions before I asked it! I am going to use an NST to interact with my online scheduler for a sweet e-ink, easy on the eyes, scheduling unit.
First I want to thank for well written guide how to set things up to make any browser (in this case obviously Opera) working on NST. I read several threads about browsers and wondered how those could be solved. It seems to me that some of those problems could be solved using web grabber or offline browser or some of those plugins that redirects to cached version of the web page on Wayback machine (Brave browser is gone incorporate that option so I have been told). Naturally that might work for reading cached content on NST inside your browser if it supports page rendering and so. Still for pages that need user/reader interaction that won't solve anything. Would application like Gapps browser resolve at least some of the issues you experience? It should run on Eclair but I am not sure will it run on NST. That need to be tested.
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First I want to thank for well written guide how to set things up to make any browser (in this case obviously Opera) working on NST. I read several threads about browsers and wondered how those could be solved. It seems to me that some of those problems could be solved using web grabber or offline browser or some of those plugins that redirects to cached version of the web page on Wayback machine (Brave browser is gone incorporate that option so I have been told). Naturally that might work for reading cached content on NST inside your browser if it supports page rendering and so. Still for pages that need user/reader interaction that won't solve anything. Would application like Gapps browser resolve at least some of the issues you experience? It should run on Eclair but I am not sure will it run on NST. That need to be tested.
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I had never heard of Gapps browser but I can tell you now that it does not work properly on the NST. It never gets past a partial, immobile screen of Google News. None of the other options do anything at all.
While I still prefer Opera Mobile for general browsing and value its ability to open local HTML files (something I have exploited in a number of my news apps), Opera Mini 7.6.4 also functions on the NST and can skirt around some of the SSL issues because the pages are initially picked up by Opera's up-to-date servers, rendered, and then passed on to the user. However, sites with complex constructions and modern WebView requirements will not display properly, if at all. Opera Mini also has a "picker" that will allow you to open media files (like videos) in an external player. This is something Opera Mobile will not do. It just refuses to deal with them at all.
On the whole, the browser issue is the proverbial straw for the camel's back when it comes to older Android OS. I have seen this working with KitKat ROMs where already many sites cannot be accessed because of the outdated WebView. Lollipop, which is the first OS version with a WebView that can be updated, is a little better. But custom ROMs (or ROMs like on the NST) that are not properly updated for SSL are never going to be able to hold on forever in this regard.
Thanks for thorough reply. I fear that it is not only updates of the software that is hampering factor but very nature of e-ink devices that hold us back. Even Kindles from Amazon have the issues in that regard and it is certainly not from lack of funding that firm can provide to solve the problem. That is why I mentioned web grabber approach. As last resort someone might try to print some web page as PDF for later reading but that would not solve problems like logging in some web services etc. I even considered text based browsers as alternative. My friend who is proficient in programming, web administration and computer related stuff said me the same thing as you did that Opera is by far best browser for mobile device.
Okay, so this is a difficult one. I'm not even sure if this is possible, as it's so specific and probably will not get the responses I want for this... but here goes.
I am trying to retrieve the data (passwords, history, settings, etc.) from Vivaldi web browser. Here's the problem: it's not easy to locate. On Windows and Linux, I can just go through the file system and see it there; it will even appear in my user data directories. On Android, however, it's a whole different ball of wax. I go to SDCARD/Android/data/com.vivaldi.browser only to find that nothing is there. I then do some web searching to find out that it may be stored in ROOT/data/data/, which is a problem because I can't access it normally. For most everything beyond user folders, I need root access. Pulling with ADB does nothing, as I get the does not have sufficient permissions error. To top it all off, I then go to vivaldi://about and find that it may actually store the stuff in /data/user/0/com.vivaldi.browser! It too is inaccessible.
Now, this is my friend's Tab A. I have had experience in root before, but it often ends up with me fiddling with patches in order to get stubborn apps to ignore the fact that it is rooted, and even THEN some apps don't work well at all because of things I've done on the system level. Therefore, I am very wary about rooting, but I don't know what else to do. Is there ANY WAY, other than rooting, that I can retrieve all the browser data files I want access to, so I don't potentially damage or even brick my friend's device? Is there something besides root that I can install or use that will override the device restrictions, or perhaps there is a better way to retrieve the data? I am well aware of Sync, but my friend doesn't want a Vivaldi account. I also know that passwords can be exported as text, but I also would like to import them onto another Android device (ANY Android device) where Vivaldi will be installed.
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Okay, so this is a difficult one. I'm not even sure if this is possible, as it's so specific and probably will not get the responses I want for this... but here goes.
I am trying to retrieve the data (passwords, history, settings, etc.) from Vivaldi web browser. Here's the problem: it's not easy to locate. On Windows and Linux, I can just go through the file system and see it there; it will even appear in my user data directories. On Android, however, it's a whole different ball of wax. I go to SDCARD/Android/data/com.vivaldi.browser only to find that nothing is there. I then do some web searching to find out that it may be stored in ROOT/data/data/, which is a problem because I can't access it normally. For most everything beyond user folders, I need root access. Pulling with ADB does nothing, as I get the does not have sufficient permissions error. To top it all off, I then go to vivaldi://about and find that it may actually store the stuff in /data/user/0/com.vivaldi.browser! It too is inaccessible.
Now, this is my friend's Tab A. I have had experience in root before, but it often ends up with me fiddling with patches in order to get stubborn apps to ignore the fact that it is rooted, and even THEN some apps don't work well at all because of things I've done on the system level. Therefore, I am very wary about rooting, but I don't know what else to do. Is there ANY WAY, other than rooting, that I can retrieve all the browser data files I want access to, so I don't potentially damage or even brick my friend's device? Is there something besides root that I can install or use that will override the device restrictions, or perhaps there is a better way to retrieve the data? I am well aware of Sync, but my friend doesn't want a Vivaldi account. I also know that passwords can be exported as text, but I also would like to import them onto another Android device (ANY Android device) where Vivaldi will be installed.
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Even if you unlock the bootloader and permanently change the knox flag, you cannot be sure that the files pertaining to Vivaldi are not encrypted and associated with one particular device.
Consequently, your action may be useless.
ze7zez said:
Even if you unlock the bootloader and permanently change the knox flag, you cannot be sure that the files pertaining to Vivaldi are not encrypted and associated with one particular device.
Consequently, your action may be useless.
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I'd still like to try, regardless, just to see if it can be done.
HarvHouHacker said:
I'd still like to try, regardless, just to see if it can be done.
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Wouldn't it be more prudent to ask on the Vivaldi forum if this is doable?
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ze7zez said:
Wouldn't it be more prudent to ask on the Vivaldi forum if this is doable?
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I didn't know where to ask, honestly. Besides, I use Vivaldi as an example, but I also have other browsers I wanted to get their data from, and they're not common ones (DuckDuckGo browser, for instance).