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Have a look over at http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=8904&st=0 for the latest (Release Candidate) of Pocket Informant.
Its well worth installing as it has a much smaller memory footprint (see the discusion in the forum above), and seems a lot faster to me. Also if you can find any bugs, make sure you post them into the forum.... I found one yesturday, and its been fixed already.
The guys at Web IS seem to have done a great job (and no, I'm not linked to them in any way.... its just that their product makes the PDA calendar features usable!!!)
Regards
P
Oh !£@[email protected]!&&! Installed this and now my right soft-key won't bring up the internal (default) contact program (which is so much better than the one in pocketinformant). Anyone know how to change it back? I managed it before but no amount of registry changing seems to work now
I'm not an expert on this, but one suggestion I would make is that you tap on the PI icon on the bottom of the screen (the red dot surrounded by a multicolour ring) and de-select "Make Default PIM" ... this then makes all the MSFT links work with the MSFT apps rather than PI... hope this helps
P
BudgieUK said:
I'm not an expert on this, but one suggestion I would make is that you tap on the PI icon on the bottom of the screen (the red dot surrounded by a multicolour ring) and de-select "Make Default PIM" ... this then makes all the MSFT links work with the MSFT apps rather than PI... hope this helps
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This is one of the beefs I (and several others) have with PI, and AF for that matter, which seem to fall on deaf ears in their cosy cartel. Why won't they let the user choose which modules they want to use, instead of their software taking over the whole machine?
If you installed a non-MS planner on your Desktop PC, you wouldn't stand for it replacing all your other PIM apps too. So why should you on the PocketPC?
There is a page in the wiki that shows the registry settings for the soft keys, but I found this method unreliable. I managed to change the text but the app remained at the default setting.
The way I did it was to download Buzz's SoftKeyAppletEx, which goes into your control panel [you do need to register to download the file].
Code:
Description:
This is a replacement applet for the SoftKeyApplet.cpl. I called it SoftKeyAppletEx.cpl (to be original) ;)
This applet does exactly the same thing, but with more features
1. you can browse your ppc to get the desired application or link dedicated to the soft key.
2. you can change the name shown on the soft key.
3. you can place the applet icon on the settings tab you want (personal, system, connections).
4. you can specify only one soft key (left or right) or both
5. you can reset to defaults, so I think it's the phone and the calendar
That's really useful stuff - thanks!
As others have said, I want to use PI for my Diary but the built-in contacts application - which is far better for quick dialling etc.
I still have a problem though - PI seems to have replaced my /Windows/poutlook.lnk file with its own, so if I make the right soft-button point to this file it still runs PI. Can anyone send me their default contacts.lnk file (and possibly poutlook.exe too?) or tell me how to make a new link to the default contacts application (which I assume must still be in ROM?)
Thanks all. Love PI but this hijacking on my contacts is really annoying!
PReDiToR said:
The way I did it was to download Buzz's SoftKeyAppletEx, which goes into your control panel.
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Where'd you put the file? What control panel are u taliking about? Help is appreciated.
BudgieUK said:
I'm not an expert on this, but one suggestion I would make is that you tap on the PI icon on the bottom of the screen (the red dot surrounded by a multicolour ring) and de-select "Make Default PIM" ... this then makes all the MSFT links work with the MSFT apps rather than PI... hope this helps
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I tried this and I can report some success. I use PocketBreeze on the Today screen which is tightly linked to PI. Nothing I say here is relevant if you don't use PocketBreeze.
Now, with PI the non-default PIM, my PocketBreeze links take me to PI's calendar, tasks and contacts applications. My hardware contacts button and the contacts soft key in the phone now take me to Pocket Outlook's contacts app.
Couple of caveats: PI does seem to revert to being the default PIM after a soft reset. Also, the 'special days' feature in PB (lists upcoming birthdays and anniversaries) seems to grow duplicate entries over time, but these can be cleared with a soft reset. It's never worked properly for me anyway so could be unrelated.
I have yet to see any problems syncing. I do expect it to work OK as I believe that PO and PI run off the same database.
Hope this helps those with PB and PI.
-- TK
Lovely program, but the last few versions hae been a complete dog speed wise.
belfast-biker said:
Lovely program, but the last few versions hae been a complete dog speed wise.
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I agree. Rev 4 was often very slooowww, although I had installed it in RAM. But this new version is different. The footprint is much smaller in WM5.
But although I have installed the new version entirely on the storage card, it is MUCH FASTER now!
I found some other improvements too, like the timeline now shows you total hours for your different projects, and there is a real fullscreen option now.
Didn't find any bugs so far, but I just downloaded it two days ago.
Cheers and thanks to this great forum! I have benefitted a lot already from the tips and tricks posted here
itoma
Here's the new version of PointUI.
New Features
- Weather update frequency now includes "Manual".
- Customisation (yes, we are Aussies so spell it with an 's'): Media Player - ok, a little techy at this stage, but you can now specify the path of your media player in the registry:
- In the key: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Pointui\Home\{your version} (i.e. version = 1.01b) create a new String value called App.Path.Media
- You can include in your path {Windows}, {Programs}, {ProgramFiles} which will get replaced with your device specific folders but if you do use them then don't start the path with a backslash
- The path can be to a shortcut or exe, and include spaces, but don't use any quotes
- An example value is: {Windows}\wmplayer.exe
- You don't need to restart Home for this change to kick in
- Customisation: Email account
- You can specify a store name in a String value called App.Email.StoreName
- This will then launch to the specified inbox instead of Outlook mail
- The store name is CASE SENSITIVE
- It doesn't appear to break if you enter a dodgy store name - just doesn't do anything Smile
- Unread message count indicator will be count of TOTAL emails across all accounts
- You NEED TO RESTART Home for this one to kick in
- Customisation: Tasks and Calendar
- You can specify an alternative app for Tasks and Calendar using the registry keys App.Path.Tasks and App.Path.Calendar
- If the alternative app requires command line args then you can supply them with the corresponding keys App.Path.Tasks.Args and App.Path.Calendar.Args
- You don't need to restart Home for this change to kick in
- Customisation: Phone
- To use an alternative dialer (or if your device has the problem of when you click the Phone icon it freezes for 8 seconds, then you can specify an alternative dialer (or any app really) using the registry key App.Path.Phone
- You don't need to restart Home for this change to kick in
- Customisation: Lock Screen
- To use an alternative lock screen application you can set the registry key App.Path.LockScreen. This should provide a workaround for Smartphone users who cannot get out of our lock screen.
- You don't need to restart Home for this change to kick in
Changes
- Clicking calendar icon from Home screen will go to the day view instead of week.
- When browsing applications, sometimes you would see a file called "icon" that didn't launch anything - it's actually on your device and is a real file but is hidden, so hidden files are now excluded from the list.
- Updated fonts to include extended characters.
Bug Fixes
- Support for special folder locations other than the default English ones.
- Phone numbers now include all characters in addition to standard digits.
- When the Phone icon is clicked and there are no phone calls in the history it now works correctly instead of showing a grey bar at the top.
- Japan added to weather locations.
Known Issues
- Not enough time in the day.
- Red Bull wearing off.
- VGA
- Devices without Phones
- Recurring Appointments
- Uninstall - we'll need to get the uninstall sorted out soon. All Pointui apps have a command line switch -uninstall that will prompt it to remove itself, registry settings etc, so you can use Update Manager to uninstall Home (through it's interface), and then get rid of Update Manager with command line. That will still leave the left soft key reverting to Phone, but pretty much everything else should be gone.
Head over to www.pointui.com for more info.
installing now.. thanks
Hi,
This version still doesn't show hebrew letters, Please give a chance to change the software fonts....
to Tahoma, since SEOGE (Or the fon't u'r using) doesn't have the hebrew letters.
Thanks.
Nadavi
Will finally get a chance to test now - was trying to wait for initial bugs to get fixed... Heard lots of great reviews on this app!
Thanks for the changes.
I will try this evening (german time)
This version introduces new problems. I'm enjoying SPB Backup like never before
Anyone had success removing this after install I have tried uninstalling via phone/ computer and it removes it from the list but does not remove the program. I would love not to have to hard reset.
you dont...
after normally uninstall on your phone/pda you can
delete the registry-keys under
HKLM\Software\PoitUI and the Home-directory
located under "Prgram Files" or "Programme" or
whatever language you have...
After reboot, all is like befor....normally
On my deinstall it worked so
CABs Please
Hi,
I don't use Windows and will be better if somebody post th eCABs files.
Regards,
Taguapire.
haiopei said:
you dont...
after normally uninstall on your phone/pda you can
delete the registry-keys under
HKLM\Software\PoitUI and the Home-directory
located under "Prgram Files" or "Programme" or
whatever language you have...
After reboot, all is like befor....normally
On my deinstall it worked so
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Jesus it puts the lotion on its skin. Where being held captive by a piece of software gotta love that. Talk about nazi'ism feels like AOL for mobile devices go ahead install if you dare will require a format if u want to get rid of us though.
Easy to remove if you do it the right way. You would have found this if you would have looked on the forums for the program.
To Remove .Home
Drop back to the default Windows Mobile Today Screen
Start > Programs > .Update Manager
Pointui Products > Home > 1.0 Free > Uninstall
Perform a Soft Reboot after the uninstall and Home will be removed.
To finish the uninstall, use Remove Programs to uninstall the update manager, you can delete the installation folder if you so desire and the icon form the start menu.
To bad this procedure does not work on the 6800 there is no uninstall option in the update manager.
Custom Program?
Can someone make a program that you don't have to go in the registry and make it easier to change on the fly.
blazingwolf said:
Easy to remove if you do it the right way. You would have found this if you would have looked on the forums for the program.
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Yeah, but going to the devs own forums and reading their instructions actually requires more than the single braincell a lot of people seem blessed with these days...
FloatingFatMan said:
Yeah, but going to the devs own forums and reading their instructions actually requires more than the single braincell a lot of people seem blessed with these days...
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I love when jackasses speak about things they dont know.
NexVision said:
I love when jackasses speak about things they dont know.
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And I love it when people with the IQ of a zit ask questions that are actually answered several times by several people on official forums.
NexVision said:
To bad this procedure does not work on the 6800 there is no uninstall option in the update manager.
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It is there on my 6800.
Yup a IQ of a zit because the uninstall instructions do not work for me or hundreds of others and we want this off of our device so we ask for help. Real good insult there dont quit your dayjob (if u even have one) anyways I am done with you thanks for being a complete and utter waste of space.
Thank you blazingwolf for your attempt although it did not work.
This method did though.. Still had to alter the softkey though but no biggie.
haiopei said:
you dont...
after normally uninstall on your phone/pda you can
delete the registry-keys under
HKLM\Software\PoitUI and the Home-directory
located under "Prgram Files" or "Programme" or
whatever language you have...
After reboot, all is like befor....normally
On my deinstall it worked so
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@Nexvision,
Did you go to the right location? It took me a minute to relize that I clicked on the wrong item one time.
blazingwolf said:
It is there on my 6800.
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HMMMMMMM maybe it was the version I downloaded then I even tried downloading a new version today reinstalling and uninstalling no dice still for the uninstall method posted (other then manual delete). Oh well.
Okay, I'm going to assume that I'm not the only person to try this. I would like to run WeatherPanel in conjunction with Touchflo2d. Not necessarily INSIDE TouchFlo, I know thats impossible (as of now, or ever, lol). But I've been trying different ways to have both plugins running in tandem.
Ultimate Launch does not work. At first, I thought that it was was the a screen issue, maybe the dynamic plugin sizing from UL was not compatible, and if I just changed it to the max static size and deleted the UL tabs from view, that maybe it would do the trick. Wrong. Using TF2d as a tab under UL will cause UL to close instantly.
Next up, FtouchSL, maybe I can just assign a gesture to Ftouch and open close weatherpanel from there. However (why I never bothered to check this before embarasses me), there is no exe or lnk to speak of the FtouchSL directory. AFAIK, you cant assign a dll or other random file to use in that program.
My next try is Mortscript, but I don't know a thing about it really. Luckily, the rom I'm using now (SJ's HyperDragon III) has mortscript installed, but I still need to work on a shortcut. I have done plenty of searches, and have not come up with anything in this realm.
While I know that it isnt possible for these two plugins to share screen space, I was trying to find out if there is a way to enable/close a today plugin via Mortscript or any other means - AND be launchable from another today plugin, namely the programs tab of TouchFlo2d.
I will continue working on this, and I would appreciate any input from experienced (read - mature) people with reasonable insight or advice.
Thanks,
Colin
*edit* Hell, even if I could make a simple .exe to launch is as a program instead of a plugin. has this ever been approached before?
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_wm_tools_im_cs.htm#SecondToday
Wow. Even better than I thought, using this I just mapped Second Today to my PTT button. Thanks so much.
Also the other thing that I kinda stumbled into, was that for those of you running Dynamo, used in conjunction with SecondToday, you will always have the 2 screens to select from. Just an FYI.
10/16/08--
It is 12:00 central time (17:00 GMT I think) and I will close voting at 5:00pm Central Time (22:00 GMT) today. So that leaves you just 5 Hours to make your vote. I will try and post the winner up here later tonight, or you can check yourself at www.gudensoft.com.
Thanks!!
10/14/08--
First, thanks for all the great ideas. I would love to develop all of these if I could, but we have to decide on just one of the programs! So, Since I couldn't add a poll to this thread, I added it to HERE.
CLICK HERE TO VOTE!
I bet I know which will win, but who knows? The poll will end Thursday or Friday (depending on if it is a close race or not).
Thanks
Gudy
10/10/08--
Hey guys,
I want to know what cool program, functionality, or software you would like to see created. I am a .net programmer (among others) and would like some ideas of projects you would like to see. I would like to stay away from a graphic intense program and involved games, so think functionality, usefulness, fun, etc. If I get some good ideas, I will then add a poll, vote on the best one, then build it. I will release it under my donationware license which means it will be free. Right now I am finishing up my Golf Gps program (and will continue to support), but will start this project once we get it deceided. So Shoot me your ideas!
Gudy
cool a programmer who need ideas
I have proposed something here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434925
though it would maybe not appear as a grateful program for a developper ( a toolkit for other programs), it could be a good way to have a large diffusion through many config panels in different programs
it was just an idea
Wishlist
Hi,
Maybe simple for .NET, but for me impossible to do (without performance/battery penaulty) with basic4ppc or mortscript. And thats all I can handle.
What I would like to have is a program that enables me to execute programs when specific events occur. I'd like to know when AC power gets connected/disconnected, when there is a change in screen orientation, and when a headset gets connected/disconnected and so on. Maybe even when an internet connection through WIFI is available/unavailable.
Also I'd like to know is a specific BT device is connectable/conneted. I'd like to know if a specific WIFI network is connectable/connected. I'd like to know if I'm at a specific location. All event driven, without a performance consuming programing loop or battery drain.
Yeah, all or even some of those options would make my digital mobile life so much easier
Good luck huntig for input, if you ever get bored contact me and make me happy
Cheers,
Cacti
le_cactus said:
Hi,
Maybe simple for .NET, but for me impossible to do (without performance/battery penaulty) with basic4ppc or mortscript. And thats all I can handle.
What I would like to have is a program that enables me to execute programs when specific events occur. I'd like to know when AC power gets connected/disconnected, when there is a change in screen orientation, and when a headset gets connected/disconnected and so on. Maybe even when an internet connection through WIFI is available/unavailable.
Also I'd like to know is a specific BT device is connectable/conneted. I'd like to know if a specific WIFI network is connectable/connected. I'd like to know if I'm at a specific location. All event driven, without a performance consuming programing loop or battery drain.
Yeah, all or even some of those options would make my digital mobile life so much easier
Good luck huntig for input, if you ever get bored contact me and make me happy
Cheers,
Cacti
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Doable, handy, not a massive undertaking, I like it! Not sure I would go the .net route on something like this, as really a GUI is not required (except for settings maybe) and the overhead is large with .net. Certainly will add it to the list. Keep them coming!!
t0k0m0k0 said:
cool a programmer who need ideas
I have proposed something here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434925
though it would maybe not appear as a grateful program for a developper ( a toolkit for other programs), it could be a good way to have a large diffusion through many config panels in different programs
it was just an idea
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This would be pretty difficult unless all of developers used the same programming langauge/technique. The only real feasable way I see this working would be developers using a common set of graphics. That would be more of a graphic undertaking instead of programming. I do like the idea, but pretty hard to impliment.
Thanks
Gudy
I would love to see something like Launchy for launching apps and files etc. as well as quick search of various types online. I'm guessing the on the fly search would require too much processing power, but if it's doable it would be awesome.
http://www.launchy.net/
I'm interested in new ideas too. I also use B4PPC.
Here's a few ideas:
-A tamagotchi, really. I was about to try this out tonight but Paint hates me.
-An app launcher like PetitLaunch on PalmOS. It's something that can pop from any app (hardware button) and when you type in extra letters it filters which apps are shown. I got this started and I can give you the files if you want.
-Pursue the development for Tippy. The source is on Nicbou.com/downloads if you want it.
-A time clock. A friend of mine notes down how long he works to make sure he doesn't get screwed and it takes him several minutes every week. He doesn't have a Pocket PC but maybe someone would be interested in something that tracks the hours you work and calculate the salary. I almost did this too.
And don't forget to share the source! If you need any help with B4PPC I'm here
galt said:
I would love to see something like Launchy for launching apps and files etc. as well as quick search of various types online. I'm guessing the on the fly search would require too much processing power, but if it's doable it would be awesome.
http://www.launchy.net/
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Sounds simular to the app launcher listed in the next post, seems like there is a theme going on here, you all need some sort of good app launcher.
Gudy
I'd like the Launchy features for search-on-the-fly off on board apps and file launching, but ever more for different site searches (google, maps, wikipedia, live, youtube, Amazon, etc).
N1c0_ds said:
I'm interested in new ideas too. I also use B4PPC.
Here's a few ideas:
-A tamagotchi, really. I was about to try this out tonight but Paint hates me.
-An app launcher like PetitLaunch on PalmOS. It's something that can pop from any app (hardware button) and when you type in extra letters it filters which apps are shown. I got this started and I can give you the files if you want.
-Pursue the development for Tippy. The source is on Nicbou.com/downloads if you want it.
-A time clock. A friend of mine notes down how long he works to make sure he doesn't get screwed and it takes him several minutes every week. He doesn't have a Pocket PC but maybe someone would be interested in something that tracks the hours you work and calculate the salary. I almost did this too.
And don't forget to share the source! If you need any help with B4PPC I'm here
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I had to look up tamagotchi, either I am too old, or just out of the loop to know that 10 million of these things were sold! Wow! That could be fun, but would take a pretty fancy AI type system to really be fun.
A form of Tippy is already out there, 1-calc has some of the features built in already.
A time clock could be cool, maybe a stop watch type thing perhaps?
Never used B4PPC, I mainly use C# and Visual Studio. It looks like the old Visual Basic for desktops. And last but not least, depending on the project, I more than likely will release the source.
Thanks!!! Keep'em comin!
Gudy
File Explorer Needs Help
Has anyone wanted to see a preview image in explorer's folder??
I'm not talking about fexplorerext2. although it is a fantastic enhancement; it takes a long time to load the preview immages.
I have a better idea (well, actualy MS thought of it first)
THUMBS.DB
for every folder that has an image file, this dll is created to replace cache of images. this way ou do not have to load it everytime and scale them down for thumbnail view. it is already there specificaly for each folder.
This alows the explorer to show a preview of the first image in the folder (or last created/accessed)
This is whatt I think WinMo is lacking - windows. lol.
I do not care much for the tabbed browsing. it hurts my head. too much scroling and not enough info. Icons work better I think, and waste less space on an already small screen.
well, that's been on my wishlist for a very long time. a dll that ataches to the already existing explorer making it work better.
Thanks for workin g on something new
program that makes led lights flash when phone rings would be nice
Interesting...I will have to think about how to tackle that. It would basically take a new file explorer (like total commander). This might be a bit larger than I want to tackle, but will research it a bit before ruling it out.
GUdy
bedaweed said:
program that makes led lights flash when phone rings would be nice
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This would be very difficult as not every device handles the leds the same. Also, not every device has the same leds (color, # of, etc). I think No2Chem has a int. driver, but think it is only for the titan. Would be cool though...
Gudy
a system-wide launcher dock program like that on the velocity 103 PPC..
here's the URL for the review and video of the app (and the phone)
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a new top bar replacemeent/notification system much like the "android Notification Drawer" it can replace the bubble (multiple) notifications icon when you got multiple and simultaneous notifications.. and also make it finger friendly (unlike M2D, no need to go back to homescreen to check email/sms previes and also calendar events, calls, etc.. also unlike big taskbar - from the touch phones, this'll have previews)
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qbPa1O8Ys&eur (at the 2 minute mark) , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-YcGNyJds
mjg7876 said:
Interesting...I will have to think about how to tackle that. It would basically take a new file explorer (like total commander). This might be a bit larger than I want to tackle, but will research it a bit before ruling it out.
GUdy
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Fexplorer2 is basically a dll that works with the original file explorer context menu. there is a small exe that overwrites the original explorer to make it think that the explorer"s context menu has already been opened.
in a way it maybe possible to write a new dll and two exe
EXE 1 to replace the file explorer
EXE 2 to make thumbs db
DLL (conte4xt menu that alows to view as thumbnails/list etc ; as well as launching the second exe to make a thumbsdb)
maybe you can get some help from Hou Ming, the guy that made that program before.
it would be cool if you could get some of the old emus like pocket gba and pocket snes with window 6.1 I know i would be happy.
le_cactus said:
... when AC power gets connected/disconnected, when there is a change in screen orientation, and when a headset gets connected/disconnected and ...
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I have been looking for a program that would stop the music (S2P, Audio Manager, or WMP etc...) if during playback of the music the headset is removed. Or for instance, when the device is on vibrate and you connect headset, it automatically changes profile to normal or something.
Another one is when I dock my device (or connect AC basically), I'd like clock program (or home screen, or photo slideshow, etc...) to come up automatically.
A feature that I miss from my older phones is the ability to set them to beep every minute during a phone call.
Now these are very general and not specific features. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me!
Thank you,
SiNAra
ytsejam_ said:
a system-wide launcher dock program like that on the velocity 103 PPC..
here's the URL for the review and video of the app (and the phone)
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a new top bar replacemeent/notification system much like the "android Notification Drawer" it can replace the bubble (multiple) notifications icon when you got multiple and simultaneous notifications.. and also make it finger friendly (unlike M2D, no need to go back to homescreen to check email/sms previes and also calendar events, calls, etc.. also unlike big taskbar - from the touch phones, this'll have previews)
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qbPa1O8Ys&eur (at the 2 minute mark) , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-YcGNyJds
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The launcher on the 103 looks a lot like manilla, I know it is diff, but to me it seems mainly by presentation, not functionality. I do however like the notification top bar like that on android. Not sure how difficult taking over the top bar would be. I will do some digging.
S.V.I said:
Fexplorer2 is basically a dll that works with the original file explorer context menu. there is a small exe that overwrites the original explorer to make it think that the explorer"s context menu has already been opened.
in a way it maybe possible to write a new dll and two exe
EXE 1 to replace the file explorer
EXE 2 to make thumbs db
DLL (conte4xt menu that alows to view as thumbnails/list etc ; as well as launching the second exe to make a thumbsdb)
maybe you can get some help from Hou Ming, the guy that made that program before.
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Can you give me a link to this? The only thing I could find (quickly) was sketchy at best. Still seems a bit much, but would like to know more about this Fexplorer2 thing before nuking the idea.
Gudy
This project is about rebuilding the touch.dll coude from the original dll assembly.
Latest package:
touch.cab
For adding the "developers certificate" ( read side node on update 21/11/08 ) you can use the following tool:
Microsoft Security Configuration Manager
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Update 21/11/08:
Ive finally managed to rebuild the touch.dll from assembly and recompiled it and im able to boot the new touch.dll
Ive cleared some of the calls made to some old features implemented in the original file like the touch cube etc.
Be aware that this isnt for daily use and only for testing purposes. But I really need some input on speed and reliability because i cant test everything on my own ( i flash my device every 4 hours or so so not really long testing times ). If you are not affraid of hard resetting your device and are willing to participate in testing current work please do but dont keep me responsible for freezes etc
I have only tested it on udk R4 because its easy for me to test speed on manilla 2d and it gives me a good impression of daily usability. And because i removed almost all calls to the original cube code it wont be any good for cube lovers as and original HTC roms.
Keep in mind that all ive done now has been done during work in a few hours and although ive tried to be on the safe side i cant tell you all is working as its suppose to and I think i havent done more then remove about 20% of garbage out of it.
I know not all is as fast as its supposed to be but like i said im better safe then sorry and i dont wanna hardreset every 2 mins or so... Some good testing can be done in Manila2d like scrolling through images fast and scrolling through the bottom bar. Also ive noticed that scrolling through the normal "All programs" is still on the slow side ( still need to resolve a lot of scrolling issues... HTC has included a lot of codes for all sorts of winmo controls like listviews etc ) but if you open up the all programs in manila from the programs menu u will see what kind of speed it can work at minimum....
As for the priorities mentioned earlier in this thread im going to set both the priority256 and the priorityhigh256 at 109 ( original microsoft value that can be found at msdn ) in the cab file so we can test the touch interface as it was suppose to be set up... you can easily change these values as you like ( read earlier posts ). Setting it lower then 109 will give it an higher priority which will make the device suffer more from touch input... Setting it higher ( upto 255 ) will give the touch input less priority and will make rendering faster but can also come of the cost of reliability.
Side node:
Make sure your rom has the "Sample Privileged Developer" Certificate installed because i signed both the file as the cab with this certificate ( files need to be signed because of being system file and they dont get any trust at boot without a certificate ).
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Ok so because i didnt had much to do this week i started digging into the touch.dll to see if there can be some solutions to the slow scrolling/stuttering etc when touching the screen.
I already found out that the graphics stuttering mostly happens due to the fact that the touch.dll is set to real-time process priority.
WinMo uses priority values from 255 (low) to 0 (real-time).. Normally touch should be set at 109 ( according to msdn ), but because htc put so much garbage in it ( touchflo related ) and it got slow as #@% they put the priority to 0 as a default and deleted the registry entries
Using IDA i found out that those registry values are still being accessed but since they are not there the default of 0 is used.
Just create the following key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Touch
And create the following values in it
Name value (DWORD)
Priority256 255
HighPriority256 255
This will not speed up the actual scrolling but it will also not make the device freeze when pressing the screen... So scrolling seems more natural. ( especially in programs folder and file explorer )
So this is not a fix but a good start for now.
Already found out a few things looking at the code that can be dropped out so im going to try to rebuild the touch.dll from asm without most time expensive calls ( hopefully shrike will help me out on this one ).
Let me be the first to say thank you. I am not sure I did the things right, but my Polaris seems more alive than ever. I will post an exported regkey, please confirm that I've done it correctlly.
I have noticed an improvement in sliding in S2U2 and on everything that involves touching the screen. This indeed is a great step forward for Polaris.
Thanks for trying... As soon as development will progress ill create a cab file which will include the registry keys.
Big difference... great job,
I've noticed though that in icontact, when you scroll contacts, the animation has to finish so that it can accept new gesture, so i set it to 109, scrolling is still good and icontact work propertly..
Great find Rogro! Was irritating me how the graphic stutters whenever I scroll in programs and phonebook..
Just wondering though, if it was such a simple fix, why did they remove the reg key to begin with? as far as i can see, the impact on the processor speed seems really minimal..
I look forward to more of your discoveries..
Nice job! Performance is much better... but in the all programs list the icons all still flashing when scrolling, although its much less.
Thank you
Great job in all programme speed seems little better.
nice
thanx
Hey Rog,
Nice to see you're trying different things.
I looked at my HD but it didn't have the slowdown the Polaris has. But it also doesn't have the registry keys... so i added them and soft reset. Now, my HD's TFLO3D is really unresponsive and stutters... So maybe it's only for non-TF3D devices?
Thank's
It's working well in my M-Amine 2.0 Final Rom.
Here is the little Cab.
EDIT: If you install this cab or change the register by hand (Is the same) , the scrolling work well but maybe you will have problems with Igo, TomTom or destinator.
Please take that in your mind.
Thanks a lot Rogro!! It's wonderful for every application that uses touch scrolling.
Why do HTC engineers leave us alone with those awful bugs? Is it so difficult to add those 2 DWORD values?
Actually it fixes the screen response AND the All Programs scrolling in Manilla 2D
thanks for sharing rogro82.
cheers
Thanks rogro82.
It's working
BTW i've notice something,,maybe wrong.
When you scroll (very fast) in file explorer or program folder, stoping it(the scrolling) with a sigle tap it's not so easy. Or when you tap to stoping it ,then turning to another direction(up or down).
Also the icontact scrolling isn't good enough.
I use the "cbolumar" cab.
BTW i've notice something,,maybe wrong.
When you scroll (very fast) in file explorer or program folder, stoping it(the scrolling) with a sigle tap it's not so easy. Or when you tap to stoping it ,then turning to another direction(up or down).
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Thats because the scrolling is still way off in terms of speed... the only thing that happens when you change the registry settings is that it will not allow touch.dll to eat all resources and hang all other processes..
Maybe you could try to set it to 109 ( what it should be on a normal driver )..
I never use any gestures or whatever so setting it to 255 works for me for now until i can start cleaning code.
TomTom7 with these settings
Nice find. But in Tomtom7 something strange happens. I have to press the screen much harder then without these reg keys. I Use M-Amine's RTM rom.
Anyone else have this or is it just me having this bug?
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Nice find. But in Tomtom7 something strange happens. I have to press the screen much harder then without these reg keys. I Use M-Amine's RTM rom.
Anyone else have this or is it just me having this bug?
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The same bug for me with Navigon Mobile Navigator 7
kr.,
Frepke
Bug with IGO 8
The same for me , i have a lot of problems with the screen in Igo , the problem disappear after delete the register changes.
To delete this, you must go to the register and delete the new values by hand, not the touch entry but the priority entries.
Only uninstalling the cab is not valid because the driver is in use.
Thanks a lot!
It's like early Christmas!
It´s because of people like you that my Polaris is an increasingly awesome machine. Continuing like this in the near future it will teleport me from one place to the other!
Keep up the good work.
Don't ever leave us Rogro!
TT6 don't work
The screen is no usable.
I have delete all the key and now work well
ROM M-Amine 2.0 Final ITA