hi all
just received an email from t-mobile uk saying that have no plans to release the wm6 rom. Does this mean were are cursed or will we be able to use the HTC version when it comes out. is it just a case of losing branding and the cab files with the gprs settings etc???
cheers
Yeah i know, i got the same reply by email at weekend. you think that with the unit being so high spec that they would want to upgrade to WM6 for customer satisfaction
Disgraceful! Let's hope someone cracks the CID protection soon so we can use the HTC ROM when it is released!
Not good news. Let's all sign a petition and get it over to T-Mobile.
-Krip
yea, not happy about this at all, been with t-mobile for 8 years now, theyve had a **** load of money off of me. let me know if you start a petition
Since WM6 isn't an upgrade for any Advantage yet, is it really likely their emaildrone is going to know about it really?
Yes, we should petition them. But in context. "When WM6 is shipping on the Advantage please make it available for Ameo"
I second that, we need to make sure they know how not realising an operating system upgrade as big as WM6 would nark us Ameo owners off. (to put it nicely!)
Don't get upset..we'll get it anyway
Sorry guys I'm in disagreement with you on this one. I agree that a device as new and feature rich as the Ameo should definitely come with WM6, but it was never promised or even mentioned to the best of my recollection prior to and after the Ameo was released. Therefore we all knew what we were getting before we shelled out, even though we all held out hope that an official T-mobile WM6 upgrade would be available.
I'm quite happy to wait until CID unlocking has been cracked and an official WM6 ROM is available for the Dopod or Advantage version.
Let's face it people, we'll get there in the end anyway, wether they want us too or not.
CID is already available through imei-check, but they cant do it over-the-air. I emailed them about CID/SIM unlocking and this is their reply.....
Hello,
>>we can unlock it, but remote is not possible right now. If you want you can send the device to us for unlock. Special delivery is ok. The unlock is 20 GBP + 7 gbp to ship it back to you. Please send it to:
MIGsofT LTD FAO:Florin Mandache 19 Cowan Road Balloch Glasgow G68 9BX. Send just the handset + battery. >Regards, > >IMEI-CHECK Team >
I was very unsure sending the unit and needed reassurance so i replied.....
Thanks for your reply, but could you supply me with a contact number(landline) to help keep track of my unit, and so i can make payment by card. Your website doesn't contain any contact info which makes me a little uneasy.
And this is the reply i got back.....
Hello,
You can call me on my mobile : +44795*******.
The payment it will be done via paypal or direct bank deposit after we received the device and we unlocked it.
As you might guess, i'm still wary of sending it off so i guess i'll sit and wait until another option is available.
i was checking via STREETMAP, the postcode for imei-check (look at my post above) and i found this........http://www.myhouseprice.com/HousePr...imeframe=1&timeframemonth=99&timeframeyear=99
CHECK THE FIFTH HOUSE DOWN THE LIST! Its the same address and postcode for IMEI-CHECK, and it went up for sale on 23/03/07. Now i definately aint sending my unit through the post, to dodgy!
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Please send it to:
MIGsofT LTD FAO:Florin Mandache 19 Cowan Road Balloch Glasgow G68 9BX.
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Excellent! I'm just down the road (for a certain value of "down the road", being a two hour drive but one I do frequently) from them.
Wonder if they'll do it whilst I wait
Richard
mackaby007 said:
Sorry guys I'm in disagreement with you on this one. I agree that a device as new and feature rich as the Ameo should definitely come with WM6, but it was never promised or even mentioned to the best of my recollection prior to and after the Ameo was released. Therefore we all knew what we were getting before we shelled out, even though we all held out hope that an official T-mobile WM6 upgrade would be available.
I'm quite happy to wait until CID unlocking has been cracked and an official WM6 ROM is available for the Dopod or Advantage version.
Let's face it people, we'll get there in the end anyway, wether they want us too or not.
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i agree with you here, T-mobile has never promise WM6 update, so if they decide not to offer it, it's no problem, you just need the CID tool, and you can install the DOPOD or HTC one.
Whilst i accept that we were never promised an upgrade i consider that most of the Ameo owners believed that an upgrade would be in the pipe line.
By using unauthorised upgrade methods are we not invalidating our warranties and risking the chance of removal of technical support from t-mobile?
Perhaps there are associated overhead costs for T-mobile with regard to supporting another operating system but there are already phones in their range that use wm6. We are not asking them to support *nix.
I rang t-mobile last week regarding a phone problem last week (unable to make/receive calls). i was told that nobody on their thd had an Ameo manual (in the end the problem was 3g network related rather than a fault with the phone).
To date T-mobile have no publicly available rom versions (at all) which leads me to think that they are not yet up to speed wrt support for this unit anyway.
I have been a T-mobile customer for 10 years and have been out of contract for the last 3 until selling my soul for 18 months to get this Ameo. T-mobile cannot provide me adequate support at the moment and HTC will not because it is not their phone.
At a minimum i cannot see why we can not be offered this upgrade as a gesture of goodwill.
If it is a question of HTC (or microsoft) charging too much for the upgrade then perhaps they should consider how few units would have been sold without the t-mobile branding/subsidy.
i for one would be happy to petition T-mobile and will put my money where my mouth is later this weekend and start a site for the petition.
Lips tightly zipped.
But don't worry.
That's all I'm saying.
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Lips tightly zipped.
But don't worry.
That's all I'm saying.
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That'll do then. Thanks.
imaginarynumber said:
Whilst i accept that we were never promised an upgrade i consider that most of the Ameo owners believed that an upgrade would be in the pipe line.
By using unauthorised upgrade methods are we not invalidating our warranties and risking the chance of removal of technical support from t-mobile?
Perhaps there are associated overhead costs for T-mobile with regard to supporting another operating system but there are already phones in their range that use wm6. We are not asking them to support *nix.
I rang t-mobile last week regarding a phone problem last week (unable to make/receive calls). i was told that nobody on their thd had an Ameo manual (in the end the problem was 3g network related rather than a fault with the phone).
To date T-mobile have no publicly available rom versions (at all) which leads me to think that they are not yet up to speed wrt support for this unit anyway.
I have been a T-mobile customer for 10 years and have been out of contract for the last 3 until selling my soul for 18 months to get this Ameo. T-mobile cannot provide me adequate support at the moment and HTC will not because it is not their phone.
At a minimum i cannot see why we can not be offered this upgrade as a gesture of goodwill.
If it is a question of HTC (or microsoft) charging too much for the upgrade then perhaps they should consider how few units would have been sold without the t-mobile branding/subsidy.
i for one would be happy to petition T-mobile and will put my money where my mouth is later this weekend and start a site for the petition.
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If everyone thinks the same with you, then all T-mobile PDA user will be asking wm6 update (T-mobile MDA,MDA PRO.....). The things is it cost nothing to buy the upgrade, Microsft does not charge anything for it, but in order to publish the update, service provider will needs to run testing on it to make sure it's stable, it's nothing to do with HTC here as well, HTC offer the basic ROM, then T-mobile will needs to finish it, so it will takes them a while to make it stable, this is where you see the advantage of each different ROM, they are not all done by HTC, they are done by the service provider. And when you say WM6 device is already available on T-mobile, which one are you talking about? i don't seems to remember any of them.
Another important issue, you are going to see less and less HTC product on T-mobile, and any other provider too, HTC is now changing their company structure, they are trying to be like Nokia, so you won't see T-mobile mark or branding on HTC device in the future. So you already notice, T-mobile is the only one selling HTC advantage in UK, and it could be the last one, (or the very last few). In the future, you will see only HTC brand. So because of this, T-mobile has a very good reason not to be bother with WM6 update, i believe they are due to the end of the contract with HTC, and really, i don't think T-mobile care too much about Ameo, you don't see it advertise anywhere....
The bottom line is, even T-mobile release official WM6 update, i don't think it's going to be as stable as the DOPOD one or HTC one, they are already in the testing stage, and beta version will be release for tester next month. So all we need is the CID unlock, then you can choose the best ROM to upgrade.
Owners of the dash have been offered upgrades to wm6
And i go back to my point about not being offered support (understandably) for unauthorised upgrades. Surely if you know that the majority of owners of a particular phone are going to follow this path (ie unofficial upgrades) it will be cheaper (in the long run) to aid them and ensure that they have a phone that works. Otherwise you also run the risk of them blaming the network when it is in fact their phone that is not working.
With regard to your assertion that "t-mobile don't care about the ameo" the argument doesn't hold much water as it would imply that they don't care much about their customers- hence we return to the crux of this thread.
I cannot go out and buy a copy of wm6 and install it myself. if i purchased a copy of vista and discovered that it would not be possible to legitimately upgrade (purchase) to it's replacement (bar hardware issues) i would not purchase vista. It is now a given with phones of this form that we expect software/os improvements to compliment the hardware.
not every one is aware of these types of forums and would benefit from the upgrades and the ensuing improvements. It is through T-mobile that awareness would be increased (with the greatest respect to this site).
I do not doubt that you are more savy than me but if that implies an "i'm alright Jack" mentality then I personally prefer to be ignorant (it is after all blissful)
When sms was rolled out did you sit there and say "oh i don't expect to be able to use that because I signed up when vox was the only option"- i think not.
imaginarynumber said:
Owners of the dash have been offered upgrades to wm6
And i go back to my point about not being offered support (understandably) for unauthorised upgrades. Surely if you know that the majority of owners of a particular phone are going to follow this path (ie unofficial upgrades) it will be cheaper (in the long run) to aid them and ensure that they have a phone that works. Otherwise you also run the risk of them blaming the network when it is in fact their phone that is not working.
With regard to your assertion that "t-mobile don't care about the ameo" the argument doesn't hold much water as it would imply that they don't care much about their customers- hence we return to the crux of this thread.
I cannot go out and buy a copy of wm6 and install it myself. if i purchased a copy of vista and discovered that it would not be possible to legitimately upgrade (purchase) to it's replacement (bar hardware issues) i would not purchase vista. It is now a given with phones of this form that we expect software/os improvements to compliment the hardware.
not every one is aware of these types of forums and would benefit from the upgrades and the ensuing improvements. It is through T-mobile that awareness would be increased (with the greatest respect to this site).
I do not doubt that you are more savy than me but if that implies an "i'm alright Jack" mentality then I personally prefer to be ignorant (it is after all blissful)
When sms was rolled out did you sit there and say "oh i don't expect to be able to use that because I signed up when vox was the only option"- i think not.
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i understand your point there, but if you stand at the T-mobile side and think about it, then maybe you will understand if they decide not to offer wm6 update. It cost them time and money to release, it's pruely a bonus for T-mobile customer if they offer it. So do you think T-mobile MDA PRO should be offer WM6 as well? since it's the second most expensive PDA that T-mobile offer.
Anyway, what i am saying here is we are not suppose to flash un-official ROM, it has already bought this site trouble. I know lots of people (including me still do it anyway). I guess time will tell whether T-mobile will lunch WM6 update or not, but if they decide not to, don't be surprise, they have perfectly good reason for it.
Sorry WU
this was not intended to be a snipe at you but i believe in fair play and think that you are wrong.
with regard to a petition i will hold off given that Slave1 seems to know something and others respect his opinion, unless i am convinced otherwise
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Sorry WU
this was not intended to be a snipe at you but i believe in fair play and think that you are wrong.
with regard to a petition i will hold off given that Slave1 seems to know something and others respect his opinion, unless i am convinced otherwise
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let's all hope the upgrade will comes out from T-mobile, yes you are right, i don't know about T-mobile, and i have no contact inside this company too, all I know is when i went to the 3GSM this year, they did say something about the WM6 update but they are not sure which machine to offer by that time.
So hopefully they will release it, if not, we just need to hope a CID tools then all Ameo user can then flash HTC, DOPOD rom.
I will probably end up listing my Hermes on ebay when its upgrade time and was wondering whats the etiquette on using roms/pics/apps developed and posted here?
Example: see 2nd item pic....
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-8525-PDA-C...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
IMO it shouldn't be sold with anything but an official carrier ROM installed. That said, someone has been selling vp3G v3.0 by itself for several weeks now at $20 a pop. Apparently eBay security doesn't see that as a violation of their ToS though, despite my many objections to the contrary.
I hate to say it, vp, but if they aren't smart enough to realize they can get it for free then that's their problem. But, I do not think what he's doing is right.
I can upgrade my phone in about three weeks, just been looking on the t-mobile website and the ameo has gone ??
I know that a new version is due out this month, does anyone know if T-Mobile UK will start selling the new version or have I missed out altogether ??
Thanks Guys
One Possible Thought
I have used TMO US for many years and they will often discontinue one device when prepairing to release a new replacement handset. I am not saying this is the case but based on past experiance with TMO US.
Who knows perhaps they will release a TMO branded version of the X7510.
Cheers
BR
yer i think so, was looking myself, and had no luck. if you go to a shop, you might get a good deal ebcause theyll want to get rid of them?
Rory
tbern123 said:
I can upgrade my phone in about three weeks, just been looking on the t-mobile website and the ameo has gone ??
I know that a new version is due out this month, does anyone know if T-Mobile UK will start selling the new version or have I missed out altogether ??
Thanks Guys
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They will be waiting for AP 4.0 to be released to have an up-to-date device
Dieter
I have just sent them an email to ask
Got a response from T-mobile
They say it is out of stock and they don't know when it will be back in stock
I sent another email yesterday to ask if they will be selling the Ameo 16gb in the UK, and they emailed me back and said yes they are very soon.
Looks like I will be able to get one after all
theres no old ameo on their site, or in shops or brochures...
im getting a new tmob contract tmoro, so im gona see if they have any ameos in stock and ill get another one yay
lol
http://www.ukphoneshop.com/upgrades2_orange.asp?Network=T-Mobile
it seems theyre selling it for £290
it says upgrade, and i dindt go through all the steps
but worth a look if you want one cheap
Rory
Thanks for that but I think that is the old version. Before t-mobile stopped selling it I could have got it with them for £200 as an upgrade. I am hoping that the newer version will cost about the same.
I just wish instead of saying soon t-mobile would have said when they will start to sell it
I bought one from T-mobile this week, used this link:
http://www.ukphoneshop.com/Pay_Monthly_mobile_phone_list.asp?make=T-Mobile
i got this site offering various packages, just you may also try this www.freeukmobilephones.com
The Rapheal is coming out in December at a softbank near you:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1559
The Diamond also looks to be coming out: (it says coming soon)
http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/en/product/xseries/htc/x04ht/index.html
However, a friend says that he is sure softbank already has the Diamond available.
Finally, emobile has had the Diamond for a while. Any users? Thoughts?
EDIT: Ah, I just checked the Japanese page, and indeed, they are selling the Diamond at Softbank. The Raphael comes out in early December!
http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/product/X/x05ht/
Having same thoughts here as well... X01HT seems fine, but i wonder about the price... And, I would certanly want to get my SIM unlocked, need to use it when i travel abroad, just hope they will not screw its radio up like they did with X01HT
Yeah, well pricing seems reasonable. I went and saw them today, and it seems the rental fee over 2 years (for the Diamond) will be about 2000 a month after discounts. (you might want to confirm with Softbank, but I am pretty sure thats what it was. As for the Rapheal (X05HT), there is no pricing yet; nether is there a definite release date, although it is supposed to arrive early next month.
As for unlocking it, I am sure somebody will do find away. Myself, I don't really need to unlock it -- as long as I can flash roms I am happy.
One finall thing: Docomo is also getting both phones. Interestingly, the Rapheal is being released first, with the Diamond to follow iin Janurary. Go figure....
Which has more features? I will definately jump on that new phone once I decide which one I like better but someone has to have converted from Japanese to english and have it working before I'll jump in that pool.
X05HT
Anyone have the MMS cure for this? I sent this phone off to get unlocked and changed to English. Everything works fine except the MMS. "cannot decode message" Any thoughts?
I have been looking at a few catalogue site's such as very.co.uk as these seem to ship the devices direct from the make instead of keeping stock. over the last few days the lead time had been 3week, then 2week, the yesterday 3weeks, and i called them and they have advised that they are unable to supply at the moment as supplier shortage, could this maybe be due to new rom version being released in sync with the USA release of the HD2?
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I have been looking at a few catalogue site's such as very.co.uk as these seem to ship the devices direct from the make instead of keeping stock. over the last few days the lead time had been 3week, then 2week, the yesterday 3weeks, and i called them and they have advised that they are unable to supply at the moment as supplier shortage, could this maybe be due to new rom version being released in sync with the USA release of the HD2?
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T-Mob should be pulling the devices I say.
no, nothing to do with sync release,purely down to demand. the networks couldn't get enough from one week to the next, and now the operators seem to be shipping unlocked units instead of rom locked ones.my guess is because they are shIpping them as fast as they can build them.
i did think that, but it would seem that the a UK distributor has 43 in stock, these supply most online stores, but seems anyone trying to get direct is having issues
awww how sweet, believing a suppliers quoted stock.
hehe sorry couldn't resist. having worked for a number of electronics retailer website s I can assure you that the stock level is an arbitrary number, often not even made up by a person. I worked for one place where the stock level of items on the website was generated by a random number generator, and then counted down to zero using a small counting program on the server.never held any relationto actual stock levels.
I got my phone of dial a phone who assured me they had the stock... boll*cks is what I say... they took a dogs age to get it to me but when it did come it was NOT locked to vodafone and had standard stock ROM in place... wooooot...