[App Req] Biometric Security - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps

There are devices coming out with Biometric (fingerprint security). Thought it was really cool when it came out for your desktop computers. Was hoping someone would have developed it here. After a decent search through the archives, target acquired unsuccessful.
Maybe I missed an app that speaks to this. Let me know if you see anything.

I doubt it is possible using touchscreen. The sensor can detect only one point. It is nowhere close to reading papillary lines.
Did you know that lots of these touch sensors are mini cameras infact?
And if you need a device with finger recognition, HTC made one and unluckily it uses a typical fingerprint reader. So it seems we won't be able to unlock our Diamonds with fingerprints.

kosherpig said:
I doubt it is possible using touchscreen. The sensor can detect only one point. It is nowhere close to reading papillary lines.
Did you know that lots of these touch sensors are mini cameras infact?
And if you need a device with finger recognition, HTC made one and unluckily it uses a typical fingerprint reader. So it seems we won't be able to unlock our Diamonds with fingerprints.
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Well that explains why it has yet to arrive.....that's because it's not coming at all...lol
Ok, thanks for that!

In theory, a program could be made that would unlock the phone when it detects your face. Some programs exist like this for certain laptops that have webcams built into the top of the screen.
This would be pretty inconvenient unless your phone has a front-facing camera, though, and it would probably be slower on Windows Mobile than just entering a PIN.

Cythrelo said:
In theory, a program could be made that would unlock the phone when it detects your face. Some programs exist like this for certain laptops that have webcams built into the top of the screen.
This would be pretty inconvenient unless your phone has a front-facing camera, though, and it would probably be slower on Windows Mobile than just entering a PIN.
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Yeah, well the goal here is convenience and added security. Punching in numbers is not too bad but there is always that sneak suspicion that someone is watching you. Face or Finger recognition would be cool is it tends to eliminate the lose of security unless someone looks like you. i.e. twins...

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Camera Light as Notification LED

Would it be possible to make the camera light flash when an event occurs. For instance, when a call is received, or when you receive a message. I for one tend to put my pda face down on my desk, just in case something falls on it (It also prevents dust from collecting on it, as it's a bugger to clean off) so it would be a novel use for the light. The camera light woul definitely draw attention to the phone, much more than the little orange flashing light that's there atm...
Anyone know of anything which may do the job?
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extremly good question would make sense.
lets see what we come up with.
-Brian
VJCandela could quite easily be modified to do this.
It doesn't support the Wizard though, I've never had one to debug on
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vijay555 said:
VJCandela could quite easily be modified to do this.
It doesn't support the Wizard though, I've never had one to debug on
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Well I love mine far to much to commit it for scientific research
Why can't all of these little bits of hardware all be accessed in the same way on all devices... It's silly having to access them directly. It's a bit like the sounds and notifications thingy. There are loads of notifications, so why can't we change them all without having to install other programs? Because you can in the full blown windows...
Yes, but on PCs the hardware has to be made hardware compatible, or interfaced by appropriate drivers. On the PPC you're not working to a strict hardware platform, so you get different cameras, different scrollwheels, different audio etc. And that's even just withinHTC.
We're working at a driver level, or even worse, hardware level, and that requires some device specific work.
If it's any consolation, the Hermes and the Universal are much more similar then the Wizard and the Hermes, for example. So perhaps things are moving in the right direction.
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vijay555 said:
Yes, but on PCs the hardware has to be made hardware compatible, or interfaced by appropriate drivers. On the PPC you're not working to a strict hardware platform, so you get different cameras, different scrollwheels, different audio etc. And that's even just withinHTC.
We're working at a driver level, or even worse, hardware level, and that requires some device specific work.
If it's any consolation, the Hermes and the Universal are much more similar then the Wizard and the Hermes, for example. So perhaps things are moving in the right direction.
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Granted the platform differs, however, there should be a method to activate and de-activate the camera flash that's semi universal, I refuse to believe the camera application that comes with the wizard is written specifically for it.
nKrypteD1 said:
Granted the platform differs, however, there should be a method to activate and de-activate the camera flash that's semi universal, I refuse to believe the camera application that comes with the wizard is written specifically for it.
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Yeah, this is essentially what I was getting at myself, I just didn't know how to word it at the time...

[Multitouch] Wrong recognition

Hey guys I always knew that multitouch on HD2 isn't pefect at all, but now I noticed a peculiar behavior which I was not aware (tnx to ICS)...
enabling a function in developer settings to show pointers position I discovered that multitouch is working in a wrong way.
When you put the second finger over the screen it is recognized correctly but when you move it close to the same axis of the first one (both vertical and horizontal axis), it automatically get aligned on the same abscissa or ordinate (depends which axis was closer) even if the fingers are not aligned.
This is frustrating when I use some apps that take advantage of multitouch, such as games or emulators, because while I'm pressing a key on the screen and I need to press another one on the opposite side, but not perfectly aligned, I get a wrong recognition and often I press another key or a blank space.
I hope I was clear, but to understand better the problem you should activate that function in developer settings and try yourself.
Please give me a hope to think it is a solvable problem... maybe with a better driver :fingers-crossed:
That's just the screen I'm afraid. I've had the same issue with every ROM I've tried, and there's nothing you can do to solve it. At the very least, it's nice for me to hear some confirmation that I'm not the only one who experiences this.
Nigeldg said:
That's just the screen I'm afraid. I've had the same issue with every ROM I've tried, and there's nothing you can do to solve it. At the very least, it's nice for me to hear some confirmation that I'm not the only one who experiences this.
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I read around the forum that HD2 has hardware capabilities, so I think we need to get better input driver
The hardware doesn't support more than 2 points, and it does this rather poorly too. It's not so bad when using things like pinch to zoom or using two fingers to turn the map in Google Maps but when gaming it can be a bit of a pain. There's no driver that can increase the number of points the HW can support (if there was one then surely it would already have been implemented in Android) so afaik there's genuinely nothing that can be done about this. If there is, I'm sure someone will correct me soon.
It's a known issue and we can do nothing about it because of not so good touchscreen. Hardware problem, you know. It's present in every OS and in every ROM. For gaming I'd recommend getting a PS3 controller or using OTG cable and some other gamepads, like the X360 one.
Spaqin said:
It's a known issue and we can do nothing about it because of not so good touchscreen. Hardware problem, you know. It's present in every OS and in every ROM. For gaming I'd recommend getting a PS3 controller or using OTG cable and some other gamepads, like the X360 one.
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Maybe you're right, an external controller is the best choice, but I don't want to bring with me other accessory when I'm outside... for the wrong recognition I think it's just driver fault because the problem is software side. When I use one finger is really precise the issue is when I try to use two fingers, because the driver is written wrong and read a fake position
Maybe this makes things a bit clearer. http://www.tactyl.com/fr/telecharger/39-drivers
Back in the days, there weren't that many "multitouch" apps out there for android.
If you look at the nexus one, it's even worse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5puAvPqXpuc
From reading one of the booklets that came with the HD2 it all comes down to single-touch and a pinch-to-zoom gesture which both work most of the time.
Some people who developed emulators at that time, tried to avoid this "autoalignment" by putting the pads in opposite corners.
While still many people don't know that pressing on the edge of the screen, of the HD2, with at least one finger can cause
a swap in the y-axis once the second input is on the screen. (almost like in the nexus one video)
In very good light you can see this "edge-area", it's about ~4mm thick on each edge.
You can always download MVT and test it yourself. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.batterypoweredgames.mtvistest&hl=en
Some time ago tatsumaki made a decent virtual gamepad for fpse which got rid of the alignment by incorporating it in the way he/she arranged the buttons and button mask.
No one is going to fix this by a new driver,
End of story.

Fingerprint scanner

I assume the normal usage, at least what Sony intended, is to first wake the phone by pressing the power button, followed by screen unlock, done by fingerprint scanner.
You can bypass the screen unlock for a period of time, configurable under security settings, by selecting various screen unlock timeouts.
Isn't anybody else bothered by this two steps unlock, isn't it possible to be done in one step only? Is Sony even considering to change or allow one step unlock?
To me this is becoming older by the minute to the point I completely disabled this feature. Not to mention, the fingerprint reader sensor needs multiple reads to get it right. (of course, I have reconfigured the sensor by inputting what I hoped a wider finger area, didn't get better)
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I can do it in one go. Hold power with registered finger in the right location and phone unlocks shortly after depressing power button, i.e. fingerprints are read whether or not the power button is depressed. Your sensor requiring multiple reads is probably why this isn't working for you.
I've read that the sensor doesn't work well for many people and I've experienced how damp fingers don't really work either. My fingers are not the greasy type (too dry more like) so maybe this is a factor for some...
You're right, it works, although, not all the times unfortunately. In like 10 tries got it to unlock directly 2 times. Well, at least the functionality is there, thanks for your answer.
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millicent said:
I assume the normal usage, at least what Sony intended, is to first wake the phone by pressing the power button, followed by screen unlock, done by fingerprint scanner.
You can bypass the screen unlock for a period of time, configurable under security settings, by selecting various screen unlock timeouts.
Isn't anybody else bothered by this two steps unlock, isn't it possible to be done in one step only? Is Sony even considering to change or allow one step unlock?
To me this is becoming older by the minute to the point I completely disabled this feature. Not to mention, the fingerprint reader sensor needs multiple reads to get it right. (of course, I have reconfigured the sensor by inputting what I hoped a wider finger area, didn't get better)
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youre right it doesnt open in 10 times , 3 times it works, me having a slightly damp finger, it refuses to open, i just hope Sony guys have a work around for this??.. or is the finger print reader ther for namesake ??.... it doesnt work that well for me !!
I'm having the same problem. Moist fingers decrease the recognition of the finger print sensor. But I could improve the detection rate a bit. I've registered my mainly used finger twice. Once dry and once moist. Did help I think.
Mine is working suprisingly well, although i have only used my right thumb for it.
I have no trouble unlocking it with muddy wet hands on a bikeride, although i still wipe them slightly before using my phone.
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No hiccups ever, great scanner...
millicent said:
I assume the normal usage, at least what Sony intended, is to first wake the phone by pressing the power button, followed by screen unlock, done by fingerprint scanner.
You can bypass the screen unlock for a period of time, configurable under security settings, by selecting various screen unlock timeouts.
Isn't anybody else bothered by this two steps unlock, isn't it possible to be done in one step only? Is Sony even considering to change or allow one step unlock?
To me this is becoming older by the minute to the point I completely disabled this feature. Not to mention, the fingerprint reader sensor needs multiple reads to get it right. (of course, I have reconfigured the sensor by inputting what I hoped a wider finger area, didn't get better)
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No issues, make sure you scan all whole finger (circumfrence) as you go through the cycle, people scan the same angle over and over again
hickup said:
I'm having the same problem. Moist fingers decrease the recognition of the finger print sensor. But I could improve the detection rate a bit. I've registered my mainly used finger twice. Once dry and once moist. Did help I think.
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That's really a neat idea, thank you!
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coleburns said:
No issues, make sure you scan all the while finger as you go through the cycle, people scan the same angle over and over again
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This is the key. Try as many different angles as you can when registering your finger.
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This is the key. Try as many different angles as you can when registering your finger.
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Agree with this. Also did this when I registered my fingers. Scanner works well. One of the best out there.
I sort of like the idea of a press and scan. Would think if the scanner was active the whole time it would possibility affect battery life and keep the phone awake. Possibly a good design from Sony, especially with marshmallow coming with the doze feature.
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Mine behave quite differently. I press the power button and then it just reads my fingerprint. It get it right just about every time, so it's like pressing like it is without the finger print scanner. I'm actually very impressed.
Sckank said:
Mine behave quite differently. I press the power button and then it just reads my fingerprint. It get it right just about every time, so it's like pressing like it is without the finger print scanner. I'm actually very impressed.
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I have the same behavior...
if you have free finger slot and want extra precision, you can scan the main finger you use twice , with as many angles as you can.
i'm very impressed by this sensor love it!
I have my Z5 for 5 days only. I registered 3 right hand fingers and one left, but I actually got only 50% success unlocking. I thought it's just a hardware limitation or something...
Then I read this thread and registeted my main finger twice, also applying the "cover as much around" (I'm one of those who thought I should be constant when registering my fingerprint).
Anyway, I wanted to thank you guys and to confirm - I get 100% reading success rate now, plus the power push+scanner unlocks 10 out of 10.
Amazing scanner!
PS: of course I have to try in different conditions too, fingers wet or greasy etc.
Xperia Z5 E6653

Fingerprint Sensor Glitch

Currently testing on Tmo 6T - I am able to unlock my device with my middle finger knuckle -
This works 6 out of 10 times. I was also able to unlock using my daughter's knuckle. Has anyone else tested/experienced this. I saw that some other people have been able to unlock using fingers that arent registered by using just the edges.
I do not have smart / face unlock enabled. Nor my knuckles registered
WizCipher said:
Currently testing on Tmo 6T - I am able to unlock my device with my middle finger knuckle -
This works 6 out of 10 times. I was also able to unlock using my daughter's knuckle. Has anyone else tested/experienced this. I saw that some other people have been able to unlock using fingers that arent registered by using just the edges.
I do not have smart / face unlock enabled. Nor my knuckles registered
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My knuckles are not unlocking my phone. Are you pressing it straight on? I tried with a few different knuckles.....
mang0 said:
My knuckles are not unlocking my phone. Are you pressing it straight on? I tried with a few different knuckles.....
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Using my right hand, my middle finger knuckle works best to do this, I place at the top of the with a slight left right motion with it's lighting up.
My knuckle isn't working on my phone
Correction, its not the knuckle, the correct term is the proximal phalangeal Joint. The main bend in your finger. That portion unlocks my phone. I tried on my sisters device same thing. This is done using the skin portion, not the underside of the hand
https://www.onehealth.co.uk/orthopaedics-procedures-proximal-phalangel-joint-pip
Still not working here.
Bit annoying to test because of the awesome face unlock ?
But try to delete an retrain your fingerprints. Maybe you have a simple bug here
Only my fingerprints unlock my phone.
OP, check to make sure Google Smart Lock is not enabled. This is often the reason for cases like this so I'm guessing that's why you're able to bypass the security as well.
Discussion about this bug is going on for some days now over at Oneplus Community:
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/fingerprint-massive-bug-other-people-can-unlock-the-phone.941931/
Only a few have yet encountered this issues, me counting
Doesn't work for me
I would guess that it's not a sensor problem but a problem/bug within the algorithm. Either this happens when enrolling the print or when the algorithm is trying to improve/learn reading your print. Maybe there is one point where the accepted pattern gets too vage, thus allowing even non-finger parts of the body as well as different prints?
Bäcker said:
I would guess that it's not a sensor problem but a problem/bug within the algorithm. Either this happens when enrolling the print or when the algorithm is trying to improve/learn reading your print. Maybe there is one point where the accepted pattern gets too vage, thus allowing even non-finger parts of the body as well as different prints?
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Edit. Face-unlock was overriding the fingerprint/knuckle attempts in my case.
Tmobile is replacing my device - The Reps were able to unlock my device... kind of creepy

fingerprint scanner works about 1 of every 5 times

Anyone else with a similar experience? That's going to make me turn it off... Or am I just doing something wrong?
The sensor isn't as big as the interface leads you to believe, try registering multiple fingerprints using the same finger. Make sure your getting the edges of your finger print too.
I'm getting it every time. Make sure you get every bit of what you'd hit the sensor with.
aaronc_98 said:
Anyone else with a similar experience? That's going to make me turn it off... Or am I just doing something wrong?
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I'm struggling with mine too. I've done my prints a couple times and I still keep getting press harder or couldn't read. Idk if the manufacturing of these could be hit or miss.
cant even reg my thumb, not sure if my skin is too dry, my hands are a mess. back to face recog.
I took the advice and did my prints again.. (3rd time) I scanned them more to the way I angle my thumbs and fingers. I was more thorough with the scan and it's reading my prints more consistently. Thank goodness!
got the same problem here .... s10+ exynos Germany
So facial recognition is a lot quicker .... but with the missing iris scanner you`re not able to unlock your phone in the darkness anymore
I clearly face the same problem,
The captor is not verry accurate ... I'm a bit disapointed about it tbh. It was 50% of the reason why I changed, so I can use fp to unlock my phone again (at the back, next to cam is definitely not a good solution)
Just received a update for the biometrics a minute ago for my unlocked snapdragon. It's definitely improved.
mac208x said:
Just received a update for the biometrics a minute ago for my unlocked snapdragon. It's definitely improved.
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I'm having issues myself 1 out of 7 times, that update hasn't shown up for me, unlocked s10+
I actually followed the video on phonescoop.com about not following the instructions, as they are slightly misleading. It works better, but in general, I don't normally use screen protectors and I can definitely tell a difference, just using the phone. Also, make sure you have Touch Sensitivity turned on in display settings, which is supposed to increase the sensitivity with a screen protector.
Anyone try to use the fingerprint reader while it's plugged in and charging? Work ok?
I struggled at first. I went to software updates hoping to find one. Sure enough an update was there after I promoted it to search. It was better but still not 100%. Today however, I just realized it's been 100%. I attribute utter to me learning how to place my finger accurately. I think that's the biggest issue now. Is you need to just learn how it works.
Does anyone have an issue as the one in the screenshot
Like when trying to unlock using fingerprint we have the thumb impression over the ripple effect
neigo said:
So facial recognition is a lot quicker .... but with the missing iris scanner you`re not able to unlock your phone in the darkness anymore
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In dark you can, it's just terribly slow.
droidrev71 said:
Anyone try to use the fingerprint reader while it's plugged in and charging? Work ok?
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Having no issues. Just did it.
Mine has failed to unlock with fingerprint a total of 1 time since I got it. Make sure to add the finger you plan on using twice and in the way that you will be comfortably using it usually. Also make sure to move your finger around when saving it, try to catch all the edges.
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In dark you can, it's just terribly slow.
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oh cool thanks for the info =)
The update I received yesterday was completely separate from the usual software update. It was a notification for update to just the biometrics after that it worked a lot better.
THere's something that you can do to make a massive improvement, after you get the software update that improves the fingerprint scanner. It worked for me.
Delete your fingerprints. Reboot into recovery, and delete the cache partition.
Then go back and add your fingerpritns again. Do it twice. Add two fingerprint profiles using the same finger.
For me, this changed it from being slow, and difficult to scan, to instant, and only needing to press my thumb very lightly.

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