Pick your favorite. If other, please post it.
I've just recently gotten into ROMs (about a month now) and the first one I loaded was Asergs. I have not tried any of the others but I do plan to at some point.
wow you put mine onto the list...
but i hope nobody will vote..
that was discussed many, many, many times before and you cannot know!
EVERY rom fits to one person!
if you like clean ones, or black ones, or biggy, or, or, or!!!
every rom ahs pro and cons!
test them for your own and don´t ask other to decide for you!!
That's exactly why I put the POLL up though. It's so common for everyone to just start asking whats the best ROM. And while I agree with you that they are all somewhat different and one may fit someone better than the next, alot of people would like to see what is making most people happy. Chances are if X amount of people are using one ROM and swear by it that they will like it as well. And maybe not, but it gives people a baseline of what the crowd is pleased with.
You may want to break up a little further. Each rom builder has many different taste of roms, like full, lite and micro etc. I used Touch IT 2.0 full, Open Touch V3 lite and now I'm on Open Touch V4 lite black, those are all great roms, and I'm sure just within open touch people would have a preference for different flavors.
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That's exactly why I put the POLL up though. It's so common for everyone to just start asking whats the best ROM. And while I agree with you that they are all somewhat different and one may fit someone better than the next, alot of people would like to see what is making most people happy. Chances are if X amount of people are using one ROM and swear by it that they will like it as well. And maybe not, but it gives people a baseline of what the crowd is pleased with.
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ok go on with the masses.....!!!
only because most people like a rom it must not be good... hehe.
but if you look deeper into the world of Herlad/wing you will see the difference
good luck
I noticed that most people have ONLY tried OpenTouch and TouchIT ROMs. OpenTouch is leading the favorite by quite a bit.
I guess it's time for Just2Stuffed...
ivanmmj said:
I noticed that most people have ONLY tried OpenTouch and TouchIT ROMs. OpenTouch is leading the favorite by quite a bit.
I guess it's time for Just2Stuffed...
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Or Just2Linux!!
h4xz0r j00r r0m!
ROM or not to ROM
For me, and many users, the interest in ROM change was to increase available RAM via Pagepool modification. Now that can be accomplished without changing factory ROM, should this not be a choice? It seems the safest route.
pauldeleeuw said:
For me, and many users, the interest in ROM change was to increase available RAM via Pagepool modification. Now that can be accomplished without changing factory ROM, should this not be a choice? It seems the safest route.
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Even with a great pagepool, it takes quite a few tweaks to get the RAM in a stock ROM to the level that a custom ROM would get. Even then, there are so many files in the windows folder that it causes a considerable slow down to the machine. This SHOULD be a choice, but I don't think it's the best. Depending on your device, though, it MIGHT be the safest route. (Actually, depending on your SPL.)
How much free RAM do you get on the stock ROM?
Thanks, sorry for the question, I'm obviously new to this.
oh of course man , anything for a new guy.. heres a link to a page that describes all the roms in detail , from here im sure youll be able to make your decision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?do=process
lol thats funny! gooluck finding one bro
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Thanks, sorry for the question, I'm obviously new to this.
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we all had to do our own research and testing...you should do the same for something i like not be the same as what you like.
In reality, its not a bad question. Imagine you were going to buy a car. You go to a mega lot with literally hundreds of different cars. How do you even start to narrow down what kind of car to buy?
I chose my rom based on three factors:
1) What I perceive to be the most stable
2) What I perceive to be the most popular
3) What I perceive to have the most features stock
Which is rather odd since I chose my car on none of those factors
not trying to pick sides here but i have tried pretty much all the roms here. right now i am really happy with Energy.. doesnt lock up. only downside you might find is it doesnt have the HTC messaging but that was the main problem with a lot of roms i tried. the app kept freezing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654504
After testing server roms, I've been most happy with Energy. Never freezes up on me EVER! It looks great, and comes with everything. The HTC Messaging app is absolute garbage. I'm glad the chef removed it. I love the Windows Mobile default app
Is it my phone or does the energy rom drain the battery????
Flash roms and find the one that works best for ya.
I got my wife a HD2 from tmo. She loves the hardware, of course, but the phone is stock and locks up way, way too often.
I was wondering if the custom ROMs suffer from this too or if they have alleviated this issue. I can flash her device easy, but don't want to play support desk for her.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I think this question relates specifically to ROM development vs general dev questions, but Mods please free to move or lock if you have to.
he3 said:
I got my wife a HD2 from tmo. She loves the hardware, of course, but the phone is stock and locks up way, way too often.
I was wondering if the custom ROMs suffer from this too or if they have alleviated this issue. I can flash her device easy, but don't want to play support desk for her.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I think this question relates specifically to ROM development vs general dev questions, but Mods please free to move or lock if you have to.
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Custom ROM's are generally very stable compared to the Stock, however, when I used my stock, it was stable as hell, it's just on a case to case basis. But sounds like on your situation, flashing a Custom ROM would help.
on my stock HD2 i found that the more txts i had the more it would lock up, and every time i would clear them the phone would run perfect, but i hate to clear my txts so i use the energy rom by NRG. cant be happier.
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on my stock HD2 i found that the more txts i had the more it would lock up, and every time i would clear them the phone would run perfect, but i hate to clear my txts so i use the energy rom by NRG. cant be happier.
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Same here, mine was pretty stable with the exception of the messaging problem. But man are the custom's smooth and fast! My wife's on the other hand has had numerous lockups...
Sounds like you know your way around flashing but just make sure to READ, READ, READ so you don't end up giving your wife back a paperweight.
The folks around the community have made it extremely easy to do but it's also just as easy to brick it. With the advent of HSPL3, the task29 exe file, I can go from Rom to Rom in about half an hour (after setting everything up on the new one).
As far as which ROM is best (if you find yourself asking that question); that's not a question that's really "allowed" here and usually gets a thread locked. I found that just reading the first few posts of each thread to get the jist of what they offer and then it all comes down to just flashing it, playing around with it and see if you like it.
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have you tried the updated TMobile US ROM? 2.13...? It is pretty stable. I used it for a couple months. Recently though flashed a custom ROM (Elegancia GTX) for fun, and it is actually faster, and seems even more stable.
The BEST way to make your HD2 stable...completely...is to disable HTC Sense and just use Windows Default (Titanium) or the older traditional WM Today Screen. Using HTC sense caused a need to reset my HD2 too often. Usually once a day or every two days at the longest between resets. With HTC sense disabled I might turn the phone off and on one or two times per week...and that is by choice usually.
I want to start out that I know there is a "guide" on the different ROMS.
But I want real reasons/thoughts on the different Android Roms available for our HD2s, and not have to go through 5 million posts.
What do you use daily and why, and your thoughts on the ROM?
Thanks.
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I want to start out that I know there is a "guide" on the different ROMS.
But I want real reasons/thoughts on the different Android Roms available for our HD2s, and not have to go through 5 million posts.
What do you use daily and why, and your thoughts on the ROM?
Thanks.
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Good luck. Everytime someone asks this question they get the same answer. Haha.
Indeed...and here it is...there is no "best" Android build, only what is best for you. Each one is different, and no person's opinion should make you go for one build over another, as each persons situation is different. THE advice to you, is to download a few, read like there is no tomorrow, and try a bunch until you find the one that works best for your needs.
I am aware there is no "best" ROM. I ws just asking what people's opinions/thoughts on the ROM(s) they use daily. I have nothing against trying different ROMS and have read about some at this point I would like something with decent fuunctionlity, esy on the battery and properly working wifi.
I am currently running Sergo's core droid v0.6, my only issues with it so far is wifi does not work, after a couple inutes the touchscreen is non responsive and I have to put it to sleep and back on to get it to work again.
So as stated I want to know how people like their current ROMS, not which one is best.
Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
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Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
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1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
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1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
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I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
wvcadle said:
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
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1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
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I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
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Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
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Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
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Believe me, I'm not asking for anything to be spooned to me. I mean, if I could at least get some help in figuring out which ROM I'd like to flash, that would be appreciated. I could certainly do the leg work if I could just get help deciding on which ROM. I stated in my OP the type of things I'd like to have in a custom ROM. Didn't what I posted put one or two in your head? If so, may I ask which ones? Even with your opening sentence of this reply, you said to start with a simple rom. Any examples?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009561
At least he has an op that explains a fair bit.
Roastgoat said:
1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
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They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
wvcadle - It's hard to say what the best roms are since that's mostly personal taste but some of the more popular roms are ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, Xylon and slimbean. There is a questions section that has lots of threads comparing roms.
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They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
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I have tried PA and CM10.1, both of which I liked but some minor issues have me back to stock and waiting for stable releases. I think personally I would go CM10.1 once stable.
Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
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Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
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I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
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I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
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I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
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I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
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Well, I just flashed my first Custom ROM. I'm pretty stoked! Even though it's one of the simpler ROMs, it's still pretty cool. Hopefully I don't get hooked!
So, is flashing a custom kernel more dangerous than ROMs? I heard Franco has an app he created to flash his kernels.
I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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Will the other ROMs not work right out of the box, or would I need to tweak all of those settings to get them to work?
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All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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TBH it will take you some time to learn everything. All the questions you need answered will come in time with you learning Android. Its best to learn by LOTS of reading but you also need some trial and error. You will learn what Roms work best for you and which dont. You will see that you dont always need a custom kernel, and perhaps your screen only needs to 2 more clicks of saturation to have 2.2 gamma while others need to tweak across the board. Once again you gain that knowledge over time. You will get in trouble from time to time, not have help and possibly brick badly, but you learn to fix and work it out, and THAT is really where you learn lots. When you hit a roadblock READ and you will have your answer and in the process gain the knowledge you need.
Good luck and enjoy the hobby!
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All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
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You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
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No problem. Glad I could help.
And your last question is the ultimate question...lol. It's all about how you use your phone. One ROM might be more efficient for you than it would be for me. You might watch a lot of videos and don't have good reception. That could drain your battery. I'd go with ROMs that have a good thread. Read and read about the ROM before you flash it. Read the first pages and the last. I personally like Paranoid Android and AOKP ROMs. Look in the original development section and read up on Liquid Smooth, AOKP, and Paranoid Android. They are really great out the box and no overclocking or "deep settings" needed. If you have any questions about the two I like I'll be more than happy to answer any questions. Just PM or email me.
Ok, MoDaCo on my N4 and PA 3.0 on my N7!
Yes, flashing custom roms is becoming a hobby!