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Battery Drain on XDA II

Hi,
I have a very recently purchased XDA II.
I was under the impression that the battery time was considerably improved.
Although I have turned down the backlight brightness when on battery power, it still starts to loose power when I receive or send a SMS for example.
Is this normal or do I have a duff battery ?
Steve

try turning off bluetooth when you dont use it
it's suppose to be a batt hog

Yup,
done that. I only have BT on when I am actually using my headset.
Any other idea's
Steve

when does it auto turn off ?
when does the backlight turn off ?
are there any SD cards connected seem to recall that they eat batt aswell

I've had mine a week, have the same power drain problem. After charging it all last night I managed to use it as a PDA for a total of 40 mins over a 6 hour period today before the battery drained. No phone calls were made, Bluetooth disconnected (I do have a 256 MB card installed, but I don't know if this has anything to do with it), furthermore the backlight is set to the default setting and the auto power off set to 1 min. In any case I would expect to get more than 40 mins use of the PDA, the specification states upto 15 hours.
I took the unit back to the store, they say that this is a rare problem (yeah right :roll: ), they gave me a new battery which I am now recharging, hopefully this will work.

mmmm, it's very strange.
I am doing a test now. I have a imate with the official imate upgrade. I have a gps sysonchip bt. One and half hours ago i connected the imate with the gps and i started a demo of 500 km. Now the battery is at 75%.....Maybe de last upgrade solved this problem.... :shock:

You should get far better performance than this.
Three things that can drain the power:
Communications/Peripherals - IR, bluetooth, SDIO wireless LAN etc. Disable all of them unless you're actually using them.
Processor hungry programs - check if you have anything running in the background that could prevent the device switching to full sleep mode.
Lack of radio signal - if you're out of contact with a base station, the device tries to connect at full power every 30s - a big battery drain, so if you know you're out of contact, turn off the radio.
However, even with everything running, I'd expect a running time way above 40mins, so it sounds like you have a hardware problem with your device. I easily get 3h full brightness, full processing (ie watching a movie or playing a game) with radio on.

Turn IR off?
Is there anyway to actually turn the IR off on the XDA II?

Just the Start-Settings-Connections-Beam-Receive all incoming beams checkbox.

tried the new battery today, same procedure as yesterday (no bluetooth etc), had a slightly better performance today from the new battery, managed to get roughly an hours actual use out of the PDA (games etc) over a period of... 10 hours, ooh atleast it lasted the working day so must be better... however still no way near the 15 hours PDA work time as stated on the box!
However something I have noticed is that every now and then (after switching off the unit and just leaving it on the desk) the screen comes to life displaying a running program, (just how do you turn off the media player? I now realise it isnt with the "X"). Anyway why does it "power" back up? I wonder if this has anything to do with my power problem, that perhaps it has switched back on whilst in my pocket (BTW I have set the buttons so that they do not switch the PDA on accidently)
So, I'm recharging again, (I think I might take the MMC card out see if tht makes a difference). I expect something better for my EUR 500, what is the point of being able to go online anywhere if you have to be plugged into the mains! If I can't get the damn thing to work satisfactoraily by next week then it is going back to the shop, despite it being a Gucci shiny piece of kit!

@MoistVelvet: Actually, it;s not so much the device itself but the operating systems that is the cause of a few quirks. Luckily, a lot has been written on this forum and other forums on websites such as www.ppcw.net. A lot can been improved by limiting the number of programs that can be found in the \windows\startup folder of the XDA II. I'd suggest you have a look around in the various topics. I ended up honing my XDA II to a point where I am actually very very satisfied with it's performance ...

Can someone repost the items in the windows start up folder than can be deleted and what they do on the XDA II.
I was surprised at the amount of apps in there, but dont know what I can safely delete.
Steve

Wiz,
thanks for the tip, I'll have a look around.
Well the batery did last longer yesterday, managed to get through a whole workig day before it ran out, so the jury is still out!
Realised perhaps one of the reasons why the unit would switch itself on, whilst at work I have a very low signal, so every minute or two the signal strength would go up and switch the screen on. I have set to auto switch off after 1 min, but I wonder if there is there a way to stop it from switching on?

Hm, my experience is quite different. I use it throughout the day with around 15 phone calls, at least 2 GPRS synchronisations, some other usage of contacts, calendar and email and when I get home it's still around 60 percent - the most drain appears to happen on the way back home when I use the BT headset...
When your uses so much more power you may like to check what kind of programs you use. First idea is to have a critical look at fancy today plugins... my worst experience was with Battery Pack, the best way to empty your battery :lol:
Maybe you like to use UpTime plugin (http://ae.inc.ru/uptime_t.html) which really tells you how much you actually use the PocketPC and which doesn't do anythings while it's switched off...

MoistVelvet said:
Wiz,
Realised perhaps one of the reasons why the unit would switch itself on, whilst at work I have a very low signal, so every minute or two the signal strength would go up and switch the screen on.
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Actually, the reason it periodically switches on is the O2 Homezone application. Whenever your phone changes to a new base station (which can happen even if you don't move), the stupid Homezone app turns the phone on. This is a known issue, and the only known remedy is to disable the app completely (remove from Autostart folder, soft reset phone).
Cheers
Daniel

Hi
I have an xdaII, which i load loads and loads of things onto. I did find that the battery was draining quite quickly. eg. charge it all night, just leaving it running in the day with hardly any use would drain the battery by about 90 percent! Bluetooth was off etc.
One time, the thing drained completely, and it needed a hardboot. Im going to send it back shortly for investigation/repairs.
However, since it hardbooted, i have not installed a thing. And i am finding that the battery is lasting a lot longer. I managed to go 3 days, of average usage, (few incoming/outgoing calls), without charging the battery!
This makes me think some apps must cause the battery to drain. I had battery app installed (that runs in today screen). I had fonix voicedial installed. I had quite a few games installed.
I think some software was causing the battery consumption,.. possibly battery pack.

re
I have previously had problems with battery drain, due to apps running in the background.
I also found specific apps like the battery pack, LAN sdio, bluetooth and the camera app, would drain the battery quickly.
Although you can manage closing apps down through settings/system/memory/running programmes I found the app Gigatask http://gigatask.com/ a simpler way to manage tasks.
There are others, but I found this suitable for my needs.
Now when I close an app I know it's closed and not running in the background draining the battery.
I still charge daily, habit now when I get home from work, but I have no worries about battery drain, and it rarely goes lower than 65% for a normal days use.
Cheers, Shire

turning infrared beam recieve off will help a little
:wink:

Really poor battery.

Hi guys, please bear with us on this one.
This is my 2nd Android phone, I used to have an Hero about 6 months ago. i really liked the front end but the screen was small so I upgraded to an HD2 which I still have. On the HD2 the screen is huge but Win Mobile lets it down a bit. The marketplace is expensive and very limited and the amount of apps for Win Mobile seem to be getting less and less, especially supproting the 800x480 WVGA screen on the HD2.
Anyway I was due an upgrade and Orange offered me the X10 for £20 which i couldn't refuse. I am trying to like the phone but the biggest issue for me is the battery. I did the usual of leaving it plugged in for 16 hours as recommended by orange etc. If the phone is on standby I seem to get around 8 hours and the battery will be down to about 40% remaining charge. That is on standby with the top button pressed and the phone on a black screen. This is really poor considering the HD2 can run almost 2 days on standby before loosing 60% of its charge.
Anybody got any suggestions on how to improve this? Would it be wise for me to do the debrand as mentioned in other threads? It is currently on build R1FA014.
Thanks for the help.

The battery will improve in time, after a few weeks of use the X10 will loose 1-2% of battery each 2 hours (at least my X10 R1FA016 and two of my friends X10 R1FA014 do). This is with 3G on, wifi sometimes on, GPS sometimes on. Just give it some time. I think the X10 is one of the best smartphones out there. There is an extensive thread on Power Usage which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657265
In the end it comes down to:
-Give it some time
-Disable auto search for software updates (settings>about phone>update)
-Wifi seems to drain sometimes
-Streaming drains.

Thanks for the pointers Vin87, I have got wifi turned off now but I am at work for the next 7 hours and I only have about 28% charge remaining
I'm going to have a good read through the thread you mentioned all 50+ pages LOL.
I do like the phone and for the cost I am going to keep it and hopefully we will get some new updates soon?

It gets better...way better. 13 hours since my last charge, and it's at 71%. I've been using it every now and then, Facebook, sending emails ect.
Great battery life now!

From a work perspective, I miss the X10 having a dock.
With my G900 each time I returned to my desk,I would throw it the dock and so it was receiving a charge throughout the day, the X10 is more fiddly as you need to play around the the flap and then figure out which way to plug in the mini-USB cable...
I wish they had chosen a better connector than the mini-USB as the standard, as it's not that easy to quickly connect it....
I could almost throw my G900 at the charging cable and it would connect.

Basically (if you want to use the smartphone):
1. In the beginning you will use the phone a lot. Installing apps, trying apps, games, music etc. so the battery drains faster. When you will stop pushing the phone to the limit will be better
2. Wait for a week, the batter will get better.
3. Get a task killer/boot manager and set it to autokill moxier. Don't kill other apps
4. Set facebook/twitter sync at 1h (or more) if you are not a hardcore fan of this social platforms.
5. Email: if you need instant notification there is not much you can do. If you don't need it, disable background sync and sync manually.
6. Disable location using wireless networks.
7. Wifi/3G: if you need instant notifications, wifi will drain your battery pretty fast but if you don't have 3G data plan like me, there is no other choice. If you have a good 3G plan, you can set wifi sleep policy to turn off wifi when phone goes to "sleep". Also, you can use this together with Juice defender free to turn 3G on 2 min every 3min to get notifications so, you will save even more battery.
8. Enable bluetoot/gps only when you use them and keep them disabled when not.
9. Set brightness to manual and around 25% when you are indoor and "sleep time" (screen timeout) to 30sec
10. Oh, i forgot, disable search for software updates and if you didn't install too many things, try a factory defaults. Some people did a SD card format (be sure you save everything first) and reported battery improvement.
If you want to use the dumbphone inside then turn everything off (BT, GPS, 3G, WIFI, Twitter/Facebook, email, background sync, etc.) and your dumbphone will last way longer

Juice Defender and Battery enhancing applications

Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?

mjehan said:
Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?
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Is there any battery life boosting app that works?
I don't believe all the hype.. It runs in the background, so the apps itself is a battery drainer..
Sorry, but for me, lowering brightness, turning off 3g and mobile network when unused and also turning off haptic feedback helps increasing my battery's charge..

Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.

Tried it once but use Green Power Battery Saver now, much prefer the easier UI
If rooted, along with LeeDrOiD 1.5.0 my battery life is amazing

bobbyelliott said:
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I turn off wifi when I'm not using it, but 3g is too much hassle and I suppose I do struggle to get much more than 24 hours out of a single charge but gushing battery?

bobbyelliott said:
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I think the phone does this without the help of additional apps. I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync. I did nothing special to the phone and I have no "battery saving" app. Does it, practically anyway, get any better?
Cheers from my DHD.

junta_mpb said:
I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync.
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You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.

bobbyelliott said:
You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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Lol
I'm trying green power at the mo.

What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked

I don't see the need to use stuff like this. I unplugged mine this morning and I still have 85% left with some moderate use with Facebook on push, weather and e-mail on 1 hour and others on once a day or update when opened.
I should point out I am using the Cingular radio and Android Revolution HD 2.0.9 but even when I was on stock I didn't have a terrible drain unless I had HTC Sense syncing away to itself. That seems to be the key issue.

mngmng said:
What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
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Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
6:30 - 02:00
On 1min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
02:00-06:30
On 1min-Off 1h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
I'm using the premium one though so there is a few extra settings. It definitely works though.

bobbyelliott said:
You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post that refers to the one made by another poster. The point is, I think the phone already disabled unneeded functions without the need for an app. My phone doesn't have unbelievable battery life, but it doesn't suck either.
Anyways, I think "battery saving" apps just end up using more power.
Cheers from my DHD.

I have dissconnected phone from computer on Sunday 7 pm. Started Juice defender. About three hours of reading comics, about 30 minutes phone calls, email few times a day and some internet/market (about 1/1.5 hours) and on Tuesday, 2 pm, I still have 34% battery. There was some music playing for about an hour and video clips for same time. Great result in my opinion. I think Juice defender works great. At least very good.

JD is alright, its not stellar but it does help (for me and my settings and usage). It will help a lot better if you purchase Ultimate Juice, that's when it starts to be interesting but that's the thing, you'd have to purchase it before you discover if its the best solution for you.
I don't think there's one app that will universally make our battery life better. The apps will help if you could make its functions play well with your settings and style of usage. Short of saying that if you find an app that will enhance your battery saving habits and capitalize on the opportunities that your phone can save power, then that'll be the best option for you...
JD is alright, UJ makes it a lot better...

It looks like it is better solution then buying extra bettery. Good job. I am gonna try it for some more time and if the effect will be the same I will get the UJ. Thanks.

junta_mpb said:
You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post
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No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.

bobbyelliott said:
No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.
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It does. I sleep for 8 hours, I lose 8%. I think its supports the argument that the phone only uses resources when needed. Since it doesnt sync the entire time and only when its scheduled to, I dont see this is as an impossible figure.
Lets try to remember the context comments are presented in this thread.

Android Assistant 2.2
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...

m7svk said:
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...
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Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?

mngmng said:
Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?
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Original name is "Android assistant(12 features)", by Aaron, he done already few apps for improving battery life, very good app incl cache cleaner and few more extras.

Best way to increase battery life...

This isn't a thread for when your battery drain is excessive on standby, this is a thread dedicated to figuring out how to simply get more power to the phone for extended runtime.
I'm using a 5000 mah external battery pack for extra charge, and it seems to be good enough to last me at least an extra day or two of usage, which is great. It seems like the only other options are cutting up the battery door to fit an extended battery from the evo 3D or just carrying extra batteries...

Best easy change for me was always using wifi instead of the network when at home and work. Made a huge improvement

Hunt3r.j2 said:
This isn't a thread for when your battery drain is excessive on standby, this is a thread dedicated to figuring out how to simply get more power to the phone for extended runtime.
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So....how to get the most time out of your battery in standby?
As you've allready said:
One of the biggest improvements is possible by using a Sensation or Evo3D battery. With that i get a nice 1% per hour in standby. (It's actually a bit lower than 1%).
While not using the phone it's unnessecary to have 3G activated. Recieving emails and texts via whatsapp, viber etc via 2G is good enough. For everything that is more datahungry you can allways activate 3G manually.
Keep background data turned off. I use K9 Mail which works independently and Whatsapp recieves messages too. But a lot of other stuff doesn't syncronize which means less wakelocks and thus less power consumption.
Same with locations. As long as you don't WANT to tell google your every step you can keep network based location turned off.
If you need a location fix quickly you can allways turn on gps for a moment. After using the FasterFix app (i guess you need root for that), i get a gps lock in 5 seconds, so i can determin my location really fast and share it with others (for intance via whatsapp) without having to keep it on all the time.
And last but not least:
You probably don't need to know the current outside temperature every 5 minutes. So set that to manual update too.
Doing these things doesn't turn my smartphone into an overweight dumbphone with a battery problem and i get a maximum of over 4 days of standby time out of it.
Normally my battery holds for roughly 35 hours (1 day and 11 hours), but it's usually awake for 1/4th of the time serving as my newspaper and video and mp3 player.
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Totally forgot:
Use llama!
You'll never have to worry about forgetting to set your phone on vibrate while at work and setting it to loud at home.
You can configure it so it only activates wifi at home and turns it off again if you didn't connect to any access point after a set amount of time. I haven't had to activate/deactivate wifi manually for ages without having to worry about it constantly searching for networks and sucking my battery dry!

What he said
Dlog said:
So....how to get the most time out of your battery in standby?
As you've allready said:
One of the biggest improvements is possible by using a Sensation or Evo3D battery. With that i get a nice 1% per hour in standby. (It's actually a bit lower than 1%).
While not using the phone it's unnessecary to have 3G activated. Recieving emails and texts via whatsapp, viber etc via 2G is good enough. For everything that is more datahungry you can allways activate 3G manually.
Keep background data turned off. I use K9 Mail which works independently and Whatsapp recieves messages too. But a lot of other stuff doesn't syncronize which means less wakelocks and thus less power consumption.
Same with locations. As long as you don't WANT to tell google your every step you can keep network based location turned off.
If you need a location fix quickly you can allways turn on gps for a moment. After using the FasterFix app (i guess you need root for that), i get a gps lock in 5 seconds, so i can determin my location really fast and share it with others (for intance via whatsapp) without having to keep it on all the time.
And last but not least:
You probably don't need to know the current outside temperature every 5 minutes. So set that to manual update too.
Doing these things doesn't turn my smartphone into an overweight dumbphone with a battery problem and i get a maximum of over 4 days of standby time out of it.
Normally my battery holds for roughly 35 hours (1 day and 11 hours), but it's usually awake for 1/4th of the time serving as my newspaper and video and mp3 player.
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Totally forgot:
Use llama!
You'll never have to worry about forgetting to set your phone on vibrate while at work and setting it to loud at home.
You can configure it so it only activates wifi at home and turns it off again if you didn't connect to any access point after a set amount of time. I haven't had to activate/deactivate wifi manually for ages without having to worry about it constantly searching for networks and sucking my battery dry!
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Exactly what he said, but you can automate a lot of it by using an app called Tasker. I use it to sync all data on my phone for 3 minutes every 4 hours so it's always up to date. It can also automate the GPS on/off depending which app I use so it switches on when I open CoPilot and turns off again when I close it.
Tasker can also replace Llama if you can find 'profiles. to do it. Llama looks pretty good though.

I think the biggest drain is the display. With auto brightness on, the sensor will monitor the changes in your surrounding every second the moment you turn on the screen. Turn that off and manually control the brightness save a lot of battery.

Or just use lower autobrightness script.

I use Invisibright. Long hold on search softkey + slide enables me to set the brightness to whatever I want in a second no matter what apps are running.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Or just use lower autobrightness script.
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It is still useless as your sensor is still working every time you turn on your screen. The sensor is draining your battery. Not the brightness value.

Autobrightness sensor drain
So you think that there is a greater drain from the light sensor than from an uncontrolled screen brightness?
Interesting thought. I'll manually set my brightness level a round20% for the next charge cycle and see what effect it has, though I suspect that as my display currently accounts for 20% of battery drain it won't make all that much difference.

I use juice defender and I think its actually working.
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[Q] Unrooted Note 3 - Battery Drain, Most Tips didn't work.

Hi Guys,
Firstly, I know there are several threads with different tips and suggestions but most of them didn't work for me.
Recently (since more than a week) , I have noticed strange drain in battery and getting hot pretty quickly. It has kitkat and I didn't get time to use it properly in the beginning. After reading different threads and forums here's what I did:
- Let it drain completely, shut off, took out battery for a couple of hrs and then charged without switching on. x2
- Rebooted after charging
- Uninstalled some apps I thought might be problematic
- Factory Reset (such a pain!)
- When attached to Kies, it prompted for Firmware update N9005XXUENC2 followed by another factory reset and hard reset.
- Cleared cache by going into recovery mode.
- Rebooting after charging
But seems like none of it made much difference, my routine use
- couple of hours on wifi
- no heavy games, only temple run, subway surf etc.
- no streaming
- no lengthy calls, not a lot of messaging
- 1, 2 hrs of music
- Syncing off, gps off, blue tooth off, Wifi mostly off, power saving on, brightness on auto, no 3g/4g data, almost no photos and video capturing, sensors, motions off except smart stay
I don't want to root the phone because of my busy schedule, with some difficulty I was able install WLD on it which resets after Rebooting. Point is, I am not a heavy user and this being a "beast" isn't quite unleashing the beasty-battery-life. I do get more than a day but that is when it's in deep sleep for 20hrs or more. I took some screenshots after reseting, updating firmware. It's past 3 battery cycles now, I will attach the latest one's to not clutter it up. I like this phone, but this battery is just not good enough. So, please helpful answers that don't require rooting.
Thank you for reading and Good day!

Is the battery drain consistant or does it happen at certain times (at home, at work, etc.)? If you are in an area where the signal changes frequently that will drain the battery because the radio is using power to maintain a connection. With wifi scanning for google services even when turned off setting make sure it is off if you dont need it. How do you charge the phone? If possible always use the charger that came with the phone, charging from a usb port from a computer is not as strong and can affect the memory of the battery and do not wait till almost dead to charge. It works best to recharge when between 35% and 45%. Look at your background services and see if anything out of the ordinary is running. And it could be possible the battery is defective and you might want to have it tested. I use my Note3 lightly and get 24 to 25 hours over two to three days (turning off at bedtime). This may not help any but this is what I have learned from others with similar situations. Good luck!

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Is the battery drain consistant or does it happen at certain times (at home, at work, etc.)? If you are in an area where the signal changes frequently that will drain the battery because the radio is using power to maintain a connection. With wifi scanning for google services even when turned off setting make sure it is off if you dont need it. How do you charge the phone? If possible always use the charger that came with the phone, charging from a usb port from a computer is not as strong and can affect the memory of the battery and do not wait till almost dead to charge. It works best to recharge when between 35% and 45%. Look at your background services and see if anything out of the ordinary is running. And it could be possible the battery is defective and you might want to have it tested. I use my Note3 lightly and get 24 to 25 hours over two to three days (turning off at bedtime). This may not help any but this is what I have learned from others with similar situations. Good luck!
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Hey MPDnnrd,
Thank you for your response.
It is sort of consistent, did you see the screen is just at 18% and the Android system at 30%? I think this is where the core problem lies - just don't know what and how to fix it.
- Signal Strength: Pretty good, hasn't been a problem
- I normally keep the wifi-scanning off and Now I turned off the location services to see the impact but then I think what's the point of premium device if you have to switch off everything.
- I prefer to use the factory-charger over usb-charging and I read it on several threads to let it completely die and then recharge, guess that didn't help.
- Background services - I don't think so, I kill all the apps as soon as I stop using them, use Greenify to hibernate other, switched off all auto-updates and notifications. Even on Playstore, I switched off the auto-updates and notifications.
- Defective Battery: Now this one, I haven't tested yet not sure how to - the phone's just 2 months old so shouldn't it be good enough?
I know they are not very helpful, but still thank you very much. :good:

uqureshi said:
Hey MPDnnrd,
Thank you for your response.
It is sort of consistent, did you see the screen is just at 18% and the Android system at 30%? I think this is where the core problem lies - just don't know what and how to fix it.
- Signal Strength: Pretty good, hasn't been a problem
- I normally keep the wifi-scanning off and Now I turned off the location services to see the impact but then I think what's the point of premium device if you have to switch off everything.
- I prefer to use the factory-charger over usb-charging and I read it on several threads to let it completely die and then recharge, guess that didn't help.
- Background services - I don't think so, I kill all the apps as soon as I stop using them, use Greenify to hibernate other, switched off all auto-updates and notifications. Even on Playstore, I switched off the auto-updates and notifications.
- Defective Battery: Now this one, I haven't tested yet not sure how to - the phone's just 2 months old so shouldn't it be good enough?
I know they are not very helpful, but still thank you very much. :good:
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I'm sorry to have to say this but I think you got a pretty normal battery drain by looking on your screens. You played almost one hour subway surf(which drains the battery pretty quick) and I guess the other hours where internet (also known to drain battery) or calls/messages. On a not rooted device with stock kernel that seems like normal battery usage to me!!!
However if you like to check these maybe u get a couple of percentages(not that much though I guess):
-Power saving mode in notification drawer makes your cpu clock go down (not sure u got it on not rooted device sry)
-check turn of pen detection in s pen settings
-put the brightness on auto or put it down manually
-if you can change the theme color in apps do so(make it black)
-check the svoice settings so it doesn't listen to your voice
-if you don't care how your phone looks buy a zerolemon battery(I think it makes your phone too big but that's preference)
-don't use a bright background keep it dark colors and no live wallpaper as well
Maybe that helps a little.

I don't see any drain either. Almost 6 hours screen on during 24 hours is excellent, additional 1.5 hour awake time for other services. Excellent battery life.

Settings - General - Applications - disable unnecessary apps
In Google Settings, opt-out interest-based ads and disable location access.

Thank you for your reponses guys - thing is it actually had much better battery life. What I don't understand is the fact that Screen % used to be on top and android os and system was below it but now it has been on top.
I have tweaked quite a few things already that 4aces suggested and the S-voice thing seems new, I'll look at it. Today it didn't even last a full day whereas I know people who even after heavy usage get easily more than a day - mine one, I don't use it this much. The Zerolemon thing is beast but then the phone is a freakin block lol so heavy and big, good travel etc. where you can't charge your phone and has a rugged case.
But there's a change that I saw today, Android System is now below the screen so I am not sure what made it do that but may the next time I charge it gets better and so on. I'll keep you guys posted after charging it today, I'll monitor what I do.
Blondasisko - I wouldn't really call it excellent, but it's sort of getting better than it was in the first 2 cycles. But how do I reduce additional awake time for other services? Moreover, you might've noticed I got till 1% to get this much time like really stretched it to get there.
Someguyfromhell - Already done, locations were off starting today.
Can anyone else comment on their daily routine of usage and the battery drainage ratio?

If I get 12 hours and 4hrs screen time I'm happy. I don't even play any games. Have a lot of accounts syncing lot of Internet and a bit on the calls, gps. I get on average 14 -16 hours
I have brightness on high. If you put it on auto it makes a big difference.
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If I get 12 hours and 4hrs screen time I'm happy. I don't even play any games. Have a lot of accounts syncing lot of Internet and a bit on the calls, gps. I get on average 14 -16 hours
I have brightness on high. If you put it on auto it makes a big difference.
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I guess I should feel lucky, I have ZERO syncing, auto brightness, no live wallpapers or gimmicky stuff on, no gps, hardly 10mins or so on phone calls and prolly 30-60mins on messaging a day.
@all others - and the Android System is back on top - what could be the possible reasons for it?

I think its because of such minimal use that the system goes on top. The system still had to operate so when you have hardly used the phone then the system will go on top. Though with that usage you've stated you should get nearer 2 days really
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I think its because of such minimal use that the system goes on top. The system still had to operate so when you have hardly used the phone then the system will go on top. Though with that usage you've stated you should get nearer 2 days really
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You're right probably, this is what I'd like to know as to what is running in the background that drains more battery? Exactly, at-least 1.5 days is what I should get with this usage. May be I should buy a new battery and see how it works.