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Hello, i just got a Jam 128 MB ram. i noticed that the bluetooth icon is grey, when clicked it says "there is no bluetooth hardware installed on this deice". so i decided to check for a new rom, however since its a secinf hand device, (What i can afford) i dont have acces ti imate's updates, so i was wondering if someone can help. I searched the forum only to reach a dead end. if anyone happens to know what i might do, or if this is a common problem or i am in serious trouble, please let me know.
Thanks in advance

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first_major said:
Hello, i just got a Jam 128 MB ram. i noticed that the bluetooth icon is grey, when clicked it says "there is no bluetooth hardware installed on this deice". so i decided to check for a new rom, however since its a secinf hand device, (What i can afford) i dont have acces ti imate's updates, so i was wondering if someone can help. I searched the forum only to reach a dead end. if anyone happens to know what i might do, or if this is a common problem or i am in serious trouble, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
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That is indeed a rather common problem, but don't worry - the hardware is not defective, it's just that the software gets confused sometimes.
My Magician had the same problem. I found that when too many programs were trying to initialise themselves at boot time (soft reset), the Bluetooth software timed out and got confused. The main culprit was MS Voice Command, which takes ages to initialise. If you have that on your Jam, let me know, and I'll describe a trick to avoid loading it at boot time.
Other potential candidates are huge Today plug-ins. If you have any such, try disabling them. However, it may happen that your Bluetooth stack is so confused that it needs a hard reset to get back on its feet - I can't prove it, but I had the feeling that on my Magician the Bluetooth hardware and Bluetooth stack states had become out of sync, and not even a soft reset could get them back into agreement.
Anyway, a hard reset always cures the problem. Just be careful with what programs you install!
Cheers
Daniel

Thanks for the quick and informative reply.
to mention, i have tried both both hard and soft reset with no luck.
ill try diabling some plugins and others. however in my case even in a soft or hard reset it dosent work, i think i need a new rom. what do u say.
my current is
1.12.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.10
ExtROm 1.12.167 WWE
do these versions mean anything?

first_major said:
Thanks for the quick and informative reply.
to mention, i have tried both both hard and soft reset with no luck.
ill try diabling some plugins and others. however in my case even in a soft or hard reset it dosent work, i think i need a new rom. what do u say.
my current is
1.12.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.10
ExtROm 1.12.167 WWE
do these versions mean anything?
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Are you using the new bluetooth stack?
I updated my ROM from 1.01 to 1.12 yesterday and I got that message once after I installed the new stack but everything still works fine.

am sorry, but how can i know what bluetooth stack i am using?
can u send me a the stack or patch or any file i might need?
Thanks in adavance

first_major said:
am sorry, but how can i know what bluetooth stack i am using?
can u send me a the stack or patch or any file i might need?
Thanks in adavance
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The new bluetoth stack, the daddy, the Pope Jon Paul etc is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532
It'll change your life.

thanks just downloaded it and installled it. it shows a new BT icon on the top, but still didnt solve my problem.
is there any place to redownload the rom u r using, maybe the rom i am using is installed corrouptly.

first_major said:
thanks just downloaded it and installled it. it shows a new BT icon on the top, but still didnt solve my problem.
is there any place to redownload the rom u r using, maybe the rom i am using is installed corrouptly.
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So you get an error message. After that, does the Bluetooth work at all?
What have you tried doing to test it?

nope, it dosent. it just gives the message and u have to press OK. when u do so, nothing changes, bluetooth still grey and off.

first_major said:
nope, it dosent. it just gives the message and u have to press OK. when u do so, nothing changes, bluetooth still grey and off.
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When did this start? What did you install?

didnt install anyting, i just bought the device. USED (what i can afford for). i think i need a rom

first_major said:
didnt install anyting, i just bought the device. USED (what i can afford for). i think i need a rom
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Can you take it back to where you bought it? Was it made clear that bluetooth wasn't working before you paid?
Back up your data and try a soft and hard reset.

i dont think i can do that, anyways take a look at this, i think its a rom issue. all i need is a rom/patch. but i dont have access to imate site.
http://www.expansys.com.mt/forumthread.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM&thread=535
all i need is the rom

Have you tried this?
Workarounds are to perform a soft reset or switch in and out of flight mode.
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first_major said:
i dont think i can do that, anyways take a look at this, i think its a rom issue. all i need is a rom/patch. but i dont have access to imate site.
http://www.expansys.com.mt/forumthread.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM&thread=535
all i need is the rom
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Hm - I m not so sure about this. Your ROM is already newer than everything the people had in the thread you linked to - that thread is mainly from April 2005, and people there talk about 1.03 ROMs, whereas you already have 1.12. And the 1.12 does not have any known issues with Bluetooth.
I am surprised that a hard reset won't work. Try the following: remove the main battery and leave your Jam like that for one night. This will drain your backup battery, and really resets *everything*. The next day, put the battey back in. Go through the normal setup procedure, but do a soft reset immediately before it starts installing programs from the Extended ROM (i.e., within three seconds after you tapped the display after it says "tap display to continue"). This makes sure you will have a really clean and virgin Jam.
If your Bluetooth still does not work after that, I am afraid you have a defective device.
Cheers
Daniel

tadzio said:
[Try the following: remove the main battery and leave your Jam like that for one night. This will drain your backup battery, and really resets *everything*.
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Even when mine was new, removing the main battery for less than a minute reset everything.
I'm not the only one either. :?

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tadzio said:
[Try the following: remove the main battery and leave your Jam like that for one night. This will drain your backup battery, and really resets *everything*.
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Even when mine was new, removing the main battery for less than a minute reset everything.
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Then you have a defective backup battery. I would still advise first_major to leave his device without battery overnight - there's a chance that this may help, and it's certainly worth a try before giving up on the device.
Cheers
Daniel

Can't beleive

I just can't beleive guys that you are experts and that's definitly correct. I learnt a lot from you guys but i have a problem and no one responded... My qtek 9100, acctually it's o2 xda is turning itself off and i tried to update it at least 5 times on different types of roms... It doesn't help. Can you please tell me what is making this problem. Now it's o2 ver 2.21 installed... Please help me and again, you are the best and thank you

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I just can't beleive guys that you are experts and that's definitly correct. I learnt a lot from you guys but i have a problem and no one responded... My qtek 9100, acctually it's o2 xda is turning itself off and i tried to update it at least 5 times on different types of roms... It doesn't help. Can you please tell me what is making this problem. Now it's o2 ver 2.21 installed... Please help me and again, you are the best and thank you
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if you keep it connected to the battery does it keep turning itself off? Also, are the gold connectors that touch the battery bent or dinged at all?

Bad battery?
Had same problem with Toshiba e800...

fresh123breeze said:
Bad battery?
Had same problem with Toshiba e800...
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well its obviously something to do with the battery...but definitely trying a new battery can't hurt.

Can't be. It's new device... With some roms installed it used to happen that when someone call me it turns off. It used to happen after third call received. I though that the problem is with sim card voltage but it's not. When i installed gsm radio rom 1.13 that problem stopped. Then it used to turn itself off after i leave it for let's say half our. That means, no one calls me and nobody touched it and it turned off... I don't no, i'm ging crazy... I read that some of these problems can happen with software installed. Can you tell me, wich version of software is installed on original qtek 9100??? Thanx for reply

Then it used to turn itself off after i leave it for let's say half our. That means, no one calls me and nobody touched it and it turned off... I don't no, i'm ging crazy...
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I can't believe it either. :? So you want your qtek 9100 always on for 24/7?

Yes, i need it 24/7. For me it's not logical tah they made device like that and that it can't work 24/7

how long ago did you buy the phone...can you just exchange it for another one? Sounds like its broken to me...

by turning itself off I assume you mean all the way off, Ie when you hit the power button you see the same series of bootscreens you see after a soft reset, NOT just a standby (ie hit power and the desktop comes on...) I certainly do not mean to insult your intellegenct, but I feel it helps to be extremely clear on the details with problems like this...

Yea I have to agree with Starcruiser1229. It does seem like you mean when the device is idle, it will automatically go off. does it bother you that much when it goes off all the time? is this also your first time using a pda? sorry for the weird questions but it really does look like its the first time you've actually used one. if the device goes off and you have to soft reset all the time, then that is a problem.

Ok, thanx for reply. I'm not stupid, i hope so . I know what is stand by and that screen turns off when idle and other stuff. It's not my first pda and i know how to use it and what am i talking about. Yes it soft reset itself after fourth call received (sometimes on the first call,too). I read somewhere on the net that this problem is connected with software. Sometimes it turns off on standby and green is not blinking. When i hit on/off button to turn on screen, as i always do when it's locked, it soft reset... Don't know what more are you interested and i know it sounds silly because i haven't seen anyone had this problem on this forum. My friend read on some other forum that the problem is with unlock tools. Could this be possible???

New to the whole scene, getting started

I have just aquired an xda ii from a friend and am very eager to get started but I have no clu eon what exactly I need to do.
First off I have read the FAQ's and what not and understand what everything seems to do.
However I beleive my xda is locked as when I try to put in my 3 sim card, it just says invalid sim or not recognized. Searching around the forums I have located the various unlocking tools but am not sure which one to go for. Also is there even any chance of it working with my 3 sim card?
Secondly, do I need to upgrade anything with it? Ideally what I want is to run tom tom navigation on it aswell as all the others features of the xda. (Im still searching around on how I check my version exactly >.<)
Thirdly, there appears to be a problem with the sound. Sometimes it beeps and such as normal, other times it dosent. Is there anywhere that can repair these sort of faults?
Thank you in advance for the time!
EDIT:
After playing around I found the information
ROM Version - 1.72.00WWE
ROM date - 03.15.04
Radio version 1.17.00
Protocol version 1337.28
ExtROM version 1.72.181
Is there anything I can upgrade it too? Or worth doing?

"However I beleive my xda is locked as when I try to put in my 3 sim card"
recall 3 blocking their very simcards to be able to work in no 3g phones
so it's likely that it's not your phone which is locked
you can upgrade it to wm5 if you like
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Windows_Mobile_5

Ah I see now, thank you.
I will just get another sim no problem.
I am interested in going up to wm5 but have a few more questions.
I see there are many different ROM versions, any particular one to go for? Will I still be able to use the camera & phone part? And also is there anyway to keep the ROM I have now and restore if anything nasty happens?

Hi there!
Izzy180 said:
Ah I see now, thank you.
I will just get another sim no problem.
I am interested in going up to wm5 but have a few more questions.
I see there are many different ROM versions, any particular one to go for? Will I still be able to use the camera & phone part? And also is there anyway to keep the ROM I have now and restore if anything nasty happens?
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I have a himalaya just like yours, I've upgrade to a lot of ROMs here in the forum, and currently, I decided to go to helmi AKU3.5 SP2. But this ROM lacks of software you will be needing most. But as helmi said, you can install softwares as you like, and i bet this is really fast. You can also try C_Shekhar's Rom, it has softwares built on it. But helmi's ROM is faster. you can also adjust your 15mb storage to 30mb storage so you can install more software you like. Unlike WM2003, it uses RAMdisk for the installation of your softwares and it uses 128mb. At first you will be having hard time to understand the flow, but you of course you can learn from it.
Nweiz, what country are you from?

Okay so all I got to do is install this rom, and go searching for the software to pwoer the phone, camera, etc?
Is there anyway to backup / restore my current ROM and all the other parts I should need incase the worst happens?
I only just got this and I really dont want to break it because I have wanted one for ages

"phone, camera"
is a part of the rom

Brilliant! Looks like things should be alot easier than I thought.
Still playing around, I found my bootloader version is 1.03, does this matter much?
And I have found some backup tools by searching through the wiki pages, but they dont seem to work for my smart phone?

http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62

Big help! Thanks!
Okay looks like im all set, back this up. Download the rom, install.
Hopefully all should go as planned.
Just one small little off topic thing, I noticed the problem with my sound is that when its in the cradle, all sounds work. However when it is out the cradle, sounds are intermittant. Software or hardware fault would anyone say?

Okay upgrade went without a problem and its now running fine.
However the only problem I noticed is that it does not detect the backup battery, im guessing this means the battery needs replacing?
I literally just noticed a problem with the charge socket too, looks like the pins on the right are slightly bent yet it still fits and charges.
Could this explain the sound issues? As when its in the cradle and on charge it works fine.

Izzy180 said:
However the only problem I noticed is that it does not detect the backup battery, im guessing this means the battery needs replacing?
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man, i think its bcoz wm5 is designed for not using the back up battery. Bcoz wm5 uses storage for installation of your application (default), and even if the battery drains, it will not hard reset. i guess.

Is it possible to accidently flash a Kaiser ROM to Wizard

I recently got a Wizard from someone I know. I unlocked it and flashed some ROM. I didn't like the ROM so I went to T-mobile NL website and got their official update to WM 6.0.
I also had the Kaiser update to WM6.1 on my desktop. Is it possible that I accidently flashed the Kaiser ROM to the Wizard or would I get an error before the proces of flashing started??
After some long night playing with my toys I found the Wizard dead next morning... it doesn't do anything anymore...no bootloader no led's no battery charging....nothing.
Maybe I should consider not drinking beer while playing
Anyway is there a solution or is this my first bricked HTC device?

Well, if you did indeed flash a Kaiser ROM to a Wizard, than I am fairly certain that it is bricked my man! Stop drinkin and flashin!

Try swapping the battery with another HTC device, if possible.
Try charging the dead one with a wall charger, if not.
If it won't charge, and won't boot, then you have yourself an expensive paperweight.

Hahahaha
My Men!!! The no ID RUU is hacked to dont recognize the device model? the Country? or some ID like IMEI? its dangerous isnt it? that's why i rename all the files for ROMS like wizard_bla_bla_bla.rar or something jeje cause my brother has a HTC universal.
So about your batt... get a wall chrger that gets more than 1 ampper maybe 2 and more output input doesn't matter its a default value for home electrical supply, and conect it.... if its not so try with a technician that make electroshocks to the poles with a little generator... it works for revival batt full drained by mistakes. or get an only batt all charger it exist believe me.
and if it works buy a new one cause the one you've got and revives dont last forever again.

Thanx folks, I am gonna try and find a replacement battery now. Luckely the wizard is just for playing...

My Magician charger....
I have these chargers lined up and haven't been using the Magician one for a long time.
At some time today I was looking and thought: What the Heck! give it a try...read the miniscule sticker: 1 Amp !?!
She Lives!! ...and all the settings are still there !?
am gonna try to flash the Kaiser rom to see wether that is possible gnagna
Will stop in time.

You dont learn
you dont learn the lesson... maybe it says wrong device....
are you drunk again?????

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are you drunk again?????
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Nope, just anxious to find limits.
Trial and error is the best teacher.

Elf won't start

hi all,
I've a problem with my htc touch, it doesn't won't to start !
everytime i turn it on it turns off right before the HTC welcome screen comes !
any idea what is that ? or how can i flash another rom ?
*it's fully charged
*my rom is Touch_of HD lite 3.0
Thanks

Hi,
Did you flash a new rom or something recently? How old is your battery? If possible....try changing the battery and giving it another shot.

it's a new battery about 2 months or something
yes this is a new rom i flashed it yesterday !
Thanks for your quick response

[email protected] said:
it's a new battery about 2 months or something
yes this is a new rom i flashed it yesterday !
Thanks for your quick response
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Hmmm...there you go. That seems to be the problem. Perhaps you'd want to go back to the thread from where you downloaded the rom and check to see if anyone else has had similar problems on their device. Or maybe try to get in touch with the person that cooked it. You can PM them or something. I'm sorry but beyond this....I cant tell you what to do....I've never flashed a rom on my device. Still learning Perhaps someone else on this forum can guide you.
Good Luck

Thank you but i don't think the rom is the problem,
I entered the boot loader and tried flashing 2 different roms and the same thing happens right before the HTC welcome screen "the animated picture where HTC logo appears" the device turns of !
so what is that !!!!
any help please

mine like the fridge!
For troubleshooting, try to cool it in the fridge for some minutes before you turn it on. If this helps, then I have no idea what causes the fault! But you are one step closer by knowing if its a hw or sw issue

If this helps, then I have no idea what causes the fault!
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lool
I tried what you said but didn't work too !
I think it might be the RAM or something .. what do you think ?

could be
I've red somewhere that its a RISC controller in the Elf. If so; it contains a RAM itself. So even tough I'm not a specialist on this things I belive that it could be a internal fault in the RISC or the multiplexer to the external RAM or the RAM itself. These things are all a motherboard issue that needs a replacement - in other words a new phone!
If its a SW problem it should work fine with the orignial ROM. On this field I shall keep my mouth shutt 'cus I know nothing about phone/smartphones!! I do think you should make it to the bootleg whit any ROM.. I belive!

have you tried to hard reset
1) Simultaneous press and hold "Power" and "Camera" key.
2) Press "Reset" once with the stylus and then release all keys.

Yes I've tried hard reseting !
These things are all a motherboard issue that needs a replacement - in other words a new phone!
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That's a relief

Have you tried flashing one of the original roms onto your device? If not....give that shot. You'll find a list of all original shipped roms on the wiki.

I'm not sure
If the mailfunction started after you ROM-flashing "upgrade", then its more likely that its the software. But I know nothing about software on this things or what the symptom may be if theres a missmatch on the phone configuration/model and ROM.

guys I've tried everything even original roms
I think i've to change the board !
Thank you all