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my ameo's gps cant fix satellites

My ameo can fix satellites the first day i got in chicago, but from the second day, it no longer fix. it has been so for 1 week.
i use "quick gps" but the gps still doesn't work. then I changed the server where "packedEphemeris.ee" downloaded from by editing the registry, nothing changed. I've used igo,gps viewer,gps tuner etc., the satellite can be displayed around the picture of earth but they are all red and never become blue or green. ive tried hard reset but nothing changed..
I wonder what's wrong with my ameo? Is it possible that my ameo's gps module is broken? or it's just a software issue?

coolish said:
My ameo can fix satellites the first day i got in chicago, but from the second day, it no longer fix. it has been so for 1 week.
i use "quick gps" but the gps still doesn't work. then I changed the server where "packedEphemeris.ee" downloaded from by editing the registry, nothing changed. I've used igo,gps viewer,gps tuner etc., the satellite can be displayed around the picture of earth but they are all red and never become blue or green. ive tried hard reset but nothing changed..
I wonder what's wrong with my ameo? Is it possible that my ameo's gps module is broken? or it's just a software issue?
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I have read here somewhere that the GPS Now causes problems with the GPS and caused some lock-ups requiring a soft reset. See if you can find the thread....(hint....search...LOL ) that discusses it. I had also heard that the Ameo had a GPS problem.....that thread is here too.....good luck.
Hope this helps...........Later

hdbueller said:
I have read here somewhere that the GPS Now causes problems with the GPS and caused some lock-ups requiring a soft reset. See if you can find the thread....(hint....search...LOL ) that discusses it. I had also heard that the Ameo had a GPS problem.....that thread is here too.....good luck.
Hope this helps...........Later
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i have done soft reset many times and hard reset for several times,nothing changed..i have tried setting the gps program port to com4 or com5 and just like what i did when the gps works fine.The applications can connect to the port and find the gps but it just cant fix a usable signal..

here is the screenshot
please help..

Try GPSView
I find that the best program for getting a lock, it normally works in a few seconds. Also, make sure when you turn it on you are in a WIDE open area. You need a good view of the sky in all directions to get initial lock. Wait until its happily locked onto 4 or 5 sats before fiddling or moving.

i have used gps viewer, and i do test it outdoor in open air, but it just cant get fix in hours.
here is the screenshot while using gps view

Not sure if it will work with your software, but I find that my Ameo is far happier using com1 for the GPS port - I believe this is the software port and com4 is hardware. With com1 I can use multiple gps apps at the same time, e.g. Tomtom and Reperion. If the device has not been used for a while, it can sometimes take a few minutes to get a lock, but no longer than 3-4mins. What I generally do is set one of the GPS apps running as I'm getting my keys coat on e.t.c., then by the time I've installed the Ameo in the car and done my 'preflight checks', its got a fix and I can go.
But deffo try com1 if you have that option.

cant download quick gps
hi can i get some help. i got my new ameo but cant seem to get the gps working. when i tap quickgps all that comes up is download and nothing happens. what might be the reason. do i need to get another gps programme installed?

Yes.
QuickGPS is only for downloading sat data, not for actual GPS tracking use!
GoogleMaps is free and quite good. Microsoft Live search same.
Look for GPSView for ppc as well...
Have fun.

how do you make googlemap work? i mean the track function.

Turn off the MS software GPS management, then get the ABSOLUTE LATEST googlemaps mobile.
I think you set the com port manualy in google, com4 or com5 9600
Its best to use the free GPSView to test out the com settings first to make sure you get the right ones. When you get the right port you will SEE the gps data appear in the text box proving its working. This program gets locks quicker too.
When youve got a lock with that, quit it, then run google and use the same com settings.

wilben said:
hi can i get some help. i got my new ameo but cant seem to get the gps working. when i tap quickgps all that comes up is download and nothing happens. what might be the reason. do i need to get another gps programme installed?
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i seem to have a peculiar issue as well. i have had my Ameo for 3 months now and GPS download (to get a fix) my TOMTOM 6 have both worked fine. now i try to download the gps data through quickgps, it says "connecting" and after a while returns an error message " connection failed, please try again later" can anyone help please?

Tomtom gps not working?

My Tomtom gps is not working it says waiting for a valid gps signal and wont connect. When i go to the gps status in Tomtom it shows the bars but they are grey and dont move it just freezes can anyone help me on this?

jbatu said:
My Tomtom gps is not working it says waiting for a valid gps signal and wont connect. When i go to the gps status in Tomtom it shows the bars but they are grey and dont move it just freezes can anyone help me on this?
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You made sure all the configurations are correct?
If so you might need to await a couple of minutes while you move around or are open to a clear sky to receive a signal. To help improve the satellite lock time try searching for a GPS launcher. There are some specific for Tom Tom.
These launchers not only initiate the GPS but once it is warmed up it will run Tom Tom after. It doesn't really help 100% but it does help speed up the lock time abit.

tnx> i got it working but its not very accurate on the position. sometimes its really off

I had the exact same issue. My external gps antenna came one day later than the phone did. I plugged the antenna in, and then it found two satelites indoors. Unplugged it, and it stayed working. I walked down the street it sorta tracked my position. Hope this helps anyone else having this issue..
Edit: I found this thread via a google search and didn't realize I was in a Titan thread. My phone is the Polaris/Touch Cruise. Sorry...

Xperia GPS malfunction

Hi
I wonder if someone has this same problem and know how to solve it...
Most of the times that i try to use tomtom or wayfinder, the gps can't get a fix, it locks on to the satelites with no problem, but only for 1/2 seconds, then loses the position and after some 10s it regains the position again for another 1/2s and loses it again...
The only i way can get the gps to function properly again is by turning the phone off, remove the battery and turn it back on. Then it works, but if i turn off tomtom and try to use wayfinder the problem returns, and sometimes also happens after i close tomtom and try to use it again later...
It's driving me nuts i did a hard reset and after instaling my programs the problem remains. It seems google maps works ok, tho i'm not sure as the program doesn't have the option to see to how many satelites it's locked on.
any ideas? I doubt it's from the programs i install cause the ones i use i dw them all from this forum...
Thanks

its probably your location, the satellites might not be abundant enough. GPS works fine for me, I'm using IGO8.

no, it's not that, cause when it happens i remove the battery and reinsert and turn on the phone again, and after doing that procedure the gps will lock with some 6/7 satellites and will not fail as long as i don't turn off the first program i try to use the gps with ...
If i use tomtom after doing that battery removal procedure, it will work flawlessly, if i turn off tomtom and use it right after, it still works ok, but, if i turn off tomtom and after i use wayfinder, or if i only use tomtom again after some hours, it will have that problem (and vice-versa), it does find the same satellites and gets the coordinates (in tomtom they get those blue level bars), but only for very brief moments every 10/15s which ofc makes it impossible to correctly use the navigation program
If the gps was broken or something it wouldn't work ok after i removed the battery... i guess i'll try another hard reset

Try to disable A-GPS.

possible corrupt quick gps file , run quick gps and downoad new file.

Hi,
If you have used Advanced Config and enabled A-GPS, disable it as it will cause issues with TomTom and other GPS navigation software.
Later...

hehe got it working now, i had tried that before, but seems i was using an older version of advanced config or something, i downloaded a new version, disabled a-gps and now the gps is working fine thanks for the help

Re elusivo
Elusivo, could post how you fixed your problem? Because I currently have the same problem, but no Idea how to fix it. You said something about using a new configuration with and old one? Can you please explain?

Search for the program 'Advanced Config' on the forum and install it and then run it. Go to the GPS section and if A-GPS is enabled disable it. A-GPS uses the phone masts to triangulate and get your position which causes havoc when you are trying to use the internal GPS

Thanks for that......Problem solved

hello
I do have the saame issue as you with my gps. I install Igo, tomtom, gps htc tools and gps skinner and it is always 20/30sec to get a fix but it loses it 1 sec after.
If I disable A-Gps, it will increase the time to fix satellites or is it just used for quiick gps to download ephemerids???.
I think we have to ask Customer support because it is unacceptable for such an ewxpensive phone to have to disable functionalities such as A-gps to get it to work

pyrofrag said:
If I disable A-Gps, it will increase the time to fix satellites or is it just used for quiick gps to download ephemerids???
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A-GPS uses Cell Towers to guess where you are. It is not (on these phones anyway) linked to Quick GPS which is a lot better at getting you a fix on a cold start.
As others have mentioned for some reason with A-GPS enabled TomTom doesn't like it, and I don't know of any real reason to use it.

@artesea : I don't get why you said "I don't know of any real reason to use it".
Are you talking about Tomtom or about A-GPS function ??
Because if you are speaking about Tomtom, I do have similar problem with all software using GPS.
And if you disable A-GPS function you are going to have to wait may be 3 minutes or more to get a fix instead of 40seconds so I think this is a real reason to use it...

No I'm talking about A-GPS.
Have you tried a cold start using Quick GPS, I can get a location in under 30 seconds.

So I disable A-GPS and I got fix within 30/40 seconds and I never lost it.
I just think it is absolutely unbearable to have to disable A-GPS to get your GPS working properly. This mobile phone cost 700€
I just would like to know what is protocol version from people who can have A-GPS working properly.
Rom version : 1.02.933.3
Radio version : 52.43.25.24W

So you've gone from 20/30 seconds to get a fix but then it drops, to 30/40 seconds to get a fix and it work and you STILL have a problem???
Maybe there is a reason why A-GPS is disabled by default!

No when I disable A-GPS I don't have problem any more.
I just remembered that I may have enable A-GPS through Advanced Config.
Hard reset do not change this, I though it was a registry editor value but apparently it is more than that.
Anyway it is not Xperia X1 issue but Advanced Config compatibility with Xperia X1

having problems with gps now too :/ later it was working brilliant (fix in no time), but now, most of the time i dont even see any satellite...
but sometimes, especially after reset, it shows like 5-6 satellites, but cant get fix, after some time sats just disappear :X tried disabling/enabling a-gps, with/without quick gps file downloaded, still the same... and no answer anywhere...
i guess i'll have to use my warranty and get it serviced :/
edit: today reflashed radio one more time (as yesterday after like 5 radio flashes, i ended on the original version, not the newest one) and suddenly gps is working hope it lasts...

[Q] Problem GPS

Hey guys no one has had problems with the GPS fix?
Thanks

Nope, it's working great.
Why? Do you have a problem with it?

i tested the GPS as soon as i got it. caught my position within 15 seconds to 10 metres from its first ever try.

jusba64 said:
Hey guys no one has had problems with the GPS fix?
Thanks
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don't forget to turn on your data connection at all times when using gps (locations or maps) because otherwise, you will not get a gps fix
despite HTC's thourough promotion of the Locations app with "preloaded maps", you still need a data connection to use the locations program. Utterly ridicoulous but heck, what can you do...

matthiasdeblaiser said:
don't forget to turn on your data connection at all times when using gps (locations or maps) because otherwise, you will not get a gps fix
despite HTC's thourough promotion of the Locations app with "preloaded maps", you still need a data connection to use the locations program. Utterly ridicoulous but heck, what can you do...
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It's not impossible to use Locations without data, it will just take longer to get a GPS fix.

matthiasdeblaiser said:
don't forget to turn on your data connection at all times when using gps (locations or maps) because otherwise, you will not get a gps fix
despite HTC's thourough promotion of the Locations app with "preloaded maps", you still need a data connection to use the locations program. Utterly ridicoulous but heck, what can you do...
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I'll have to disagree. I only need data connection to get the AGPS data which speeds up fix. After that the Locations app works fine, even with data turned off. Have you downloaded maps to your SD card?

Well...
I am not sure if I i have a problem, but this is my situation:
Both me and my girlfriend own a DHD.
I have installed copilot on both devices and when I turn on copilot and turn on gps (but have data connection disabled), her GPS fix takes about 30 seconders - 2 minutes, and mine may take > 15 minutes.
Surely 15 minutes should not be acceptable, even with data turned of ,right??

paulus_01 said:
Well...
I am not sure if I i have a problem, but this is my situation:
Both me and my girlfriend own a DHD.
I have installed copilot on both devices and when I turn on copilot and turn on gps (but have data connection disabled), her GPS fix takes about 30 seconders - 2 minutes, and mine may take > 15 minutes.
Surely 15 minutes should not be acceptable, even with data turned of ,right??
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Try downloading Gps Status from the market. Use it to reset your AGPS data and download new one. See if it makes any difference.

olivierlee said:
Try downloading Gps Status from the market. Use it to reset your AGPS data and download new one. See if it makes any difference.
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Thx, will have a look when I am at home and let you know if it helped.
It can improve the GPS fix, even if I do not turn on the data connection thereafter?

i had a problem with the lock. i went to the market place and got a normal gps satelite info applcaition. i then waitied for about 20 minutes for it to get a fix(first time) when i then opened HTC locations it worked properly and gets a fix really fast. i guess its just the first time.
SO if you are not getting a fix, WAIT a while for the first time maybe even 30 mins and then it will be fine.

BTW, my GPS fix issue has now been solved....do not know why, but at least it fixes within 1-2 mins or so...

Sometimes it's all about waiting. GPS locating can be very dodgy since it depends on too many factors and is initially a veeeery old technology.
I heard that soon tho EU will launch their own positioning sistem (Galileo - worth 3.4 billion;] ) that's accurate to the meter and since in some way will cooperate with NAVSTAR ( the US current GPS ) will hopefully have better "reception".
Until then - we wait and rely on bloody AGPS

Why is our Focus' GPS so slow???

Why is the Focus' gps so slow? I don't know what's wrong with my focus, I mean it just takes so long to get the coordinates of my location. I even have to go to a open sky area then wait for few minutes before it can successfully get my coordinates. Its just so annoying, this is a post ipad product, how come an ipad 1 can get my coordinates even inside the room without any difficulty?
Is this a hardware issue or just a firmware fix is due?

my focus gets a very quick lock about 90% of the time, every so often it will take a mintute or so to lock, but i've had this happen with pretty much every phone i've owned, so it seems about average to good for me...
the ipad1 (unless a 3g + wifi model) uses your network to locate you, which is why it's quite fast.

We have 2 Focuses, one AT&T and one Rogers. With both I get about the same time to get a fix, and that's slightly under a minute, in my location (several tall buildings near).
With what app do you check your GPS? I recommend GPS App

It's an AT&T. My ipad is a 3G+Wifi. It gets gps coordinates via gps chip and not A-gps. Most of the time the ipad gets coordinates very fast in span of 20-25 seconds, boom you know where you are in the map.
I am using the built in MAPS software to track my location. Does the software matters? I mean if the chip is really weak, what can the software do ?

jtphl said:
It's an AT&T. My ipad is a 3G+Wifi. It gets gps coordinates via gps chip and not A-gps. Most of the time the ipad gets coordinates very fast in span of 20-25 seconds, boom you know where you are in the map.
I am using the built in MAPS software to track my location. Does the software matters? I mean if the chip is really weak, what can the software do ?
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Sometimes it does. To give you an example why: GPS without efemerides take several minutes to get a fix. GPS with efemerides take 20s to 1 min to get a fix. Efemerides are downloaded via software.
As for the app I found it to be good enough for testing the GPS part.

I can agree with you. Sometimes while driving if I take a different route than the one the phone provided for me, it will either fail to locate where I am for a few minutes or just fail completely.
I think it's time for a small update.

Is it just a minor driver issue? I hope so , otherwise, we have to live with it or change to another device.

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Is it just a minor driver issue? I hope so , otherwise, we have to live with it or change to another device.
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Again, other people (including me) haven't experienced any issues.
In fact, it works great for me with Turn by Turn Navigation, even inside the car on the passenger seat (not near the windshield).

Try changing some GPS settings in the focus diagnosis app
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what are the settings in GPS I have to adjust to make it perform beyond expectations? Which specific diagnostic option I have to tweak?

Did the OP ever find a solution to this? I'm having some slow locks and the occasional non lock.
I know in the diagnostic app you can get to the GPS with*#1575# but I'm unsure of what data can possibly be changed.

I'm having the same issue on my Focus (Rogers). It never connects to sattelite and always uses aGPS. It's very annoying. I tried many different gps apps and get the same behavior - very innacurate. Garmin allways says "Can't connect to sattelite", gMaps always shows cell tower icon. My phone is unlocked using original Chevron method (not Chevron labs). I also tired to change settings in *#1575# and turn ON/OFF TLS and GLONASS but nothing helps. Should I try hard reset?

Ecstatic12 said:
I'm having the same issue on my Focus (Rogers). It never connects to sattelite and always uses aGPS. It's very annoying. I tried many different gps apps and get the same behavior - very innacurate. Garmin allways says "Can't connect to sattelite", gMaps always shows cell tower icon. My phone is unlocked using original Chevron method (not Chevron labs). I also tired to change settings in *#1575# and turn ON/OFF TLS and GLONASS but nothing helps. Should I try hard reset?
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I did a hard reset last night and it seems to have cleared up. I also installed this app, have to click the link in the post, searching for it didnt work.http://www.wpcentral.com/new-samsung-high-fidelity-position-enhances-gps-modifies-settings
Not sure if it's a placebo or not, but it seems to be working better.

is Focus GPS native chip or just a-gps?

Coelho_rj said:
is Focus GPS native chip or just a-gps?
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Assisted GPS, which includes standard GPS in Standalone mode, so it's better than any native GPS.

after my hard reset the GPS locked much quicker for about a week, then it started acting up again.
my new solution seems to be much easier than a hard reset. Just briefly switch to airplane mode then re-enable your data and open maps up again. Been working great for me.

Faster solution that's been working for me. Turn on and off location services. My phone never locks without this, which is sorely annoying.

I had this problem on 7392 rom. After updating to mango 7720 and 8107, I get fix in 3 to 7 seconds in my room Tested with gpsinfo, it's real satellite data, not agps. I have also installed high fidelity position settings app. Don't know if it's helping.
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