Keyboard error - Touch HD General

after extensive wiki reading (no lies ive been here long enough to know read the wiki before you even get the device)
and searching this forum
ive found no references to an odd keyboard glitch while in sms
when the white box at bottonm of screen is pressed the keyboard should pp up for editing. my devices keyboard will pop up then minimise itself again. the only way to get to type is to tap the sip icon bottom centre any ideas
devinfo
operator verion 34.119.1.611
ROM 1.19.61.1
Radio 1.09.25.14
protocol version

There's a couple of threads about this issue and I don't think there is a solution currently that applies to stock ROMS. However, I know that duttys 1.8 and up roms don't have this issue (using the new TF3D)

oh well
ill keep an eye out for 1.20.xx.x

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Pocket Informant - got it working?

Hi,
is there anyone out there that's got Webis Pocket Informant working on the Diamond2? I've tried their latest release 8.51 and an older 8.10, both on a cleanly installed D2 after a hard reset. Installing goes fine, but when I hit the 'Menu' button in the lower right corner to go messing around with it, it hangs the whole device. I have to soft reset it afterwards. This happens as soon as I start up the calendar.
Is there anyone that succeeded with PI?
Works fine for me with 8.51 via desktop installer
No problems here with 8.51
Thanks for you reactions. I'm still having the problem. I'm now guessing it has to do with the dutch version of the software. After all, the menu that's supposed to open is in dutch. Maybe something is too long for the menu, when it's displayed by TF3D.
deechte said:
Thanks for you reactions. I'm still having the problem. I'm now guessing it has to do with the dutch version of the software. After all, the menu that's supposed to open is in dutch. Maybe something is too long for the menu, when it's displayed by TF3D.
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Same problem with MENU button in DUTCH version here.
groeten, Danny Groeneveld
I have tried the english version, which works good. Every several days it crashes on me once though. I have seen the text on the last menu option, which is Close, being deformed though. One time it didn't say Close but Go to, and when I clicked it PI closed, like it should. Strange behaviour, but the english version is workable, when you don't mind not having dutch.
deechte said:
I have tried the english version, which works good. Every several days it crashes on me once though. I have seen the text on the last menu option, which is Close, being deformed though. One time it didn't say Close but Go to, and when I clicked it PI closed, like it should. Strange behaviour, but the english version is workable, when you don't mind not having dutch.
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I suggest that you send in a support request to the devolopers
regards, Danny
Yeah, but I'm not a paying customer. I was just testing Pocket Informant, since a really like their Note2Self and Flexmail software, which I bought. Didn't buy PI yet though and won't, if they don't fix this.
I can confirm this bug as well. Don't have a Topaz but the Custom ROM's for the TouchHD seem to have the same problem with the Dutch file.
Posted on the PI forum. Let's see what happens
Hey there,
Same problem here. Only difference is that I have a Rhodium (TP2) with a dutch rom. So its not a device issue I guess, seems to be an dutch-rom-issue.
Device hangs sometimes (about every 1-3 days) when soft-buttons are clicked to show menus. Soft-reset needed to get It going again.
ROM: 1.19.404.1 (51489) NLD
Radio: 3.44.25.27
PI version: 8.51
Have u got a link to the WebIS-forum discussion you started over there?
There are two discussions about this problem:
For Topaz
For Touch Pro 2

Top o'the morning to yee

I was given an SPV M3100 with a cracked screen, bought a new one off eBay for just of €20, fitted it, fired it up and everything works !!
I removed the Operator SIM lock and CID lock so I can use my VodaIE sim (was previously locked to OrangeUK)
According to the "About" screen it says the following
CE OS 5.1.195 (build 17743.2.3.0)
Memory 48.93mb
The splash screen after the initial Orange screen says "3.0 Black windows mobile pro"
Does this mean it's been flashed with a new rom ?
I'd like to flash it with a rom that needs the minimum of stylus use for navigation (fingers like sausages), what would be the best for this ?
Looks like its been flashed before, BUT, thats a fairly old rom. It might be an idea to check your SPL, if its not 2.10 oli then its not the safest. Go to the Hard SPL sticky in the Upgrading part of the forum to download Hard SPL V7. Install this (go to page 116, post 1160 for the sd card method - this can be used to flash roms to, just drop the steps using SSPL.exe(soft SPL) as you now have Hard SPL on your device). This will give better protection for when you flash your Hermes.
As for the rom, unfortunately these devices aren't like the Iphone where its all geared for the fingers. You will need to use a stylus in every rom. So saying, look in the WM06 part of the forum, you might like to use the Manilla or Titanium roms. Please note however that these may cut down on the storage memory. Also, read a bit about the rom as the chefs generally tell you whats in the roms. If you want specific things either look for a rom thats closest to that or use a lite rom and add the apps yourself.
I tend to opt for the Lite roms myself as I then pack the phone with a concoction of apps to my liking and I don't really like Manilla or Titanium. Everyone's different and whats good for one may not be good for all.
Hope that helped...
Cheers...
iPhone ?!?!?! go give yourself 20 lashes for even mentioning it !
I'm running a Hackintosh, although I still have to boot into XP to do bit's and bob's though.
The Manilla and Titanium roms seem to be more what I was lokking for, it's really the basic functions and navigation that needs to be "fat finger freindly", the main use is really going to be just as a phone, so calls and texts
I know, I don't like the Iphone either, but it is more finger friendly than our devices...
You may need to install a custom onscreen keyboard if you want to have that more finger friendly but remember, the more space used up by the keyboard, the less space to see what you're writing. At the moment I'm using Darkvisions (the latest build) and it has a pretty good onscreen keyboard. It does have a lot of other apps too though. Look for the Lite versions of the Roms, that should give you plenty of internal memory (though depending on what apps are loaded in you may not have the biggest amount of RAM).
Cheers...
I ended up settling for TAI's Golden Globe Manilla 2D in the end, played around with Scotty93's S93 V4 and MrDSL's Titanium light as well, I'll have a bit more of a play around later as I was started to get disapproving stares from the wife

Noobie Jargon

Hi everyone, I'm new to pretty much all of this. Iv had my HTC HD2 since Xmas eve and it's my 1st smartphone so I'm struggling a bit with all the jargon but i am determined to learn. I have a few questions and work odd shifts so don't get the time to search for all my answers so I'm hoping if i ask all in one thread someone will be kind enough to provide me with all the answers in one place.
1st of all, to help you out in giving me some answers this is the current software info of my phone and CABs iv already installed (thank's very much to you guys)
Software Info:
OS Version: 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
Manila Version: 2.5.19202525.0
ROM Version: (1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE
ROM Date: 11/6/09
Radio Version: 2.04.50.22_2
Protocol Version: 15.26.50.07U
SPL: 1.42.0000 XE
Installed CABs:
Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
BsB Tweaks 1.6
BiGnAdAd TransparentBottomCurtain
Calendar Transparent
Clock- Transparency
Dragon_Soft Manilla Calendar Text Removal -Multilanguage
Duttys Task Manager for Leo
fim.Mosko.Mobi (Works apart from closes every time i update my status)
fp7_ppc_en
galarm_2.3
GoogleSearch
KeypadLedControl_v0.4
myPlayer
Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_2u
Skyfire-PPC
TCPMP-0.72RC1-GF5500Edition-Alpha4
TorchButton_v2.3
Touch X remove top curtian
V6 Test 1 Brians Taskbar- gfreek edition
Vovichek_Jamrecords_20shcut_m2525
youtube (Think this was an add-on to the Google Search app)
vangrieg_InCall_Lock
Now, theres a lot of jargon i dont yet understand so if someone could tell me what the following mean?
Manila
ROM
Radio
Cooked
Bricked
Flash
SSPL
HSPL
NBH
SPL
RRU
(I think thats all the terminology i dont understand ATM)
I have seen new versions of Manila and Sense posted on here, can anyone tell me the Pro's/Con's to installing these before i go ahead? Like what are they updating/fixing, and is it worth it? I want my phone to be its best.
Right, there the complicated questions (for me) but as i work odd shifts it will be easier for me to ask other advice in this thread aswel.
Is there any way to disable the hard "end call" key when in call as when I'm using my BT headset i hang up on people in my pocket. (I do have a CAB installed that disables it whilst ringing so i dont hang up getting it out of my pocket but it releases the key again as soon as its been answered)
Is there a way to stop WIFI disconnecting when the phone is in standby (I have the BsB Tweaks but the option doesnt seem to stay on)
Is there a way of setting the Mobile Web connection to automatically turn off when its not in use and back on again when needed (I.E if I'm browsing and minimize the app to put the phone in my pocket)
I see people favor the Igo8 and TomTom 7 (i think) Satnav apps but cant seem to find where to get either from, and help?
I can update my Facebook status at the bottom of my contact card in "all people" but it seems a bit of a silly place to put the feature, is there any way of making it a bit quicker to access? (I like the way it says "from my HTC" on the updated) or does anyone know of a decent facebook app? The best iv found so far is FIM but it crashes every time i update my status. Id like to be able to chat and Tag people in photo's (and tag in status' if at all possible)
Sorry for the lengthy questions and any help is GREATLY appreciated and if i think of anything else i need to know ill ask it in this thread.
Keep up the hard work guys and i hope to be as knowledgeable as you in a few months
brettsorby said:
Now, theres a lot of jargon i dont yet understand so if someone could tell me what the following mean?
Manila
ROM
Radio
Cooked
Bricked
Flash
SSPL
HSPL
NBH
SPL
RRU
(I think thats all the terminology i dont understand ATM)
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Well for a new user, you certainly seem to have got your head around some of the modifications possible!
Terminology:
Manila: The HTC interface with the big digital clock and tabs. The HD2 comes with Manila 2.5 (= HTC Sense)
ROM: Read Only Memory, but for our purposes usually means the operating system itself, which can be written to the ROM of the device. There are standard ROMs like the HTC 1.48 update and cooked ROMs like those you see in the forums.
Radio: Usually refers to the part of the OS controlling radio functions, which are the phone signal receiver, Bluetooth and WiFi. This also contains the GPS drivers.
Cooked: A ROM that has been modified by a ROM 'chef' to make it either more up to date, more functional, or to give more available memory. Some better than others, and all technically void your warranty.
Bricked: A 'cooked' ROM needs to have the boot sectors of the device modified to allow the ROM to be installed. If this hasn't been done, the the device can get stuck in the middle of the update, hence the term 'bricked': it becomes basically an unusable brick. There can be ways out of it, but sometimes it's terminal.
Flash: The process of updating the physical ROM with a new ROM OS image
SSPL/HSPL/SPL: The SPL is like the BIOS of a PC. Stock SPLs don't allow updates other than from the manufacturer or the phone operator. SSPL (SoftSPL) is a temporary software fix that allows the ROM to be updated and HSPL (HardSPL) is a permanent fix that protects from bad ROM flashes.
RRU/NBH: RUU stands for ROM Update Utility and it is the PC executed process to update a ROM. It has a few steps such as checking versions, battery status then putting the device into a mode to allow the ROM update (Bootloader mode) then doing the actual update. The NBH file is the actual ROM file itself that overwrites the ROM. It is possible to copy the NBH file to a storage card and rename it, then do the update without connecting to a PC.
brettsorby said:
Is there any way to disable the hard "end call" key when in call as when I'm using my BT headset i hang up on people in my pocket. (I do have a CAB installed that disables it whilst ringing so i dont hang up getting it out of my pocket but it releases the key again as soon as its been answered)
Is there a way to stop WIFI disconnecting when the phone is in standby (I have the BsB Tweaks but the option doesnt seem to stay on)
Is there a way of setting the Mobile Web connection to automatically turn off when its not in use and back on again when needed (I.E if I'm browsing and minimize the app to put the phone in my pocket)
I see people favor the Igo8 and TomTom 7 (i think) Satnav apps but cant seem to find where to get either from, and help?
I can update my Facebook status at the bottom of my contact card in "all people" but it seems a bit of a silly place to put the feature, is there any way of making it a bit quicker to access? (I like the way it says "from my HTC" on the updated) or does anyone know of a decent facebook app? The best iv found so far is FIM but it crashes every time i update my status. Id like to be able to chat and Tag people in photo's (and tag in status' if at all possible)
Sorry for the lengthy questions and any help is GREATLY appreciated and if i think of anything else i need to know ill ask it in this thread.
Keep up the hard work guys and i hope to be as knowledgeable as you in a few months
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Hard end call button: I don't know, but I suspect not!
WiFi always on: There is a file or registry modification to do this, but why would you want to? The hit on the battery with WiFi on is enormous so keeping it on when in standby would soon see the battery expire. Unless you don't have a mobile data plan there's not a lot of point in keeping WiFi on.
Mobile Data on/off: There is a program called Modaco NoData that allows you to manually turn the data connection on or off. As above though, why would you want to? These devices are sold and used as 'connected' devices and mobile data is used for a lot of background updating like weather updates, MyPhone sync etc. An open but quiescent data connection has almost no impact on battery life, and only uses data when programs are set to do so.
SatNav: TomTom don't officially support the HD2, but there are many forum topics about how to get it workng as long as you buy the correct version. iGO8 is a bit different- it is not formally available in UK and even where is it available it has to be run from the SD card it is supplied on. Also, it is pretty expensive. If you have a legitimate copy, there are ways to make it work from a different SD card.
Facebook: No idea- I don't use it!
Thank you Neil, yea iv got my head round some of it, luckily im not a technophobe im just in new territory
I only want to keep the wifi on because i stream radio when at home when its on charge and the streams just stop when the device sleeps but thanks for the battery tip, ill remember to disable wifi when i know im not in range of any.
Mobile web, i do have an "unlimited data plan" but subject to fair usage policy so got me panicking a lil bit when i see its been connected for hours but knowing that it doesnt actualy use any data unless needed is good to know.
Thanks for he jargon busting as well, Iv seen that there are higher versions of Mania/Sense on here and im aware that they may void warranty but am i right in thinking a hard reset put's it back to factory original? If so, im happy to upgrade the version but what new features would i be getting? Id quite like the whole today and manila tabs to go landscape.
Satnav, ill probably stick with CoPilot as the 5 day demo it came with functioned better than my dedicated Sony satnav lol
Once again, thank you very much
If you want to maintain the WiFi when the device is on charge, the best way is to go into the Power settings, and set the parameters for 'External Power' to always stay on.
Even a USB charger is capable of maintaining a charge with the device turned on.
Regarding the Manila updates etc- you actually have to install a newer ROM to get these new features. I have to say that pretty much all the current 'cooked' ROMs have issues of one sort or another. Once the new ROM is installed, a hard reset only puts it back to how it was after that ROM was installed. You cna however always revery to a stock ROM if you need to.

My first experience of winmo...

Hi Everyone,
Found this great site looking for forums for the HD2, seems every other leads to here in some way another.
Got my HD2 on Monday with Virgin, so in 5 days I've come to find it an amazing piece of kit yet ultimately annoyed.
I've already got a list of problems and annoyances:
Having to double tap and go into the email fully so it appears read
Tapping to reply to a text yet nothing happens
When using the 'phone' keypad it types in numbers
The phone screen basically crashing so when you press a button it doesn't show the unlock screen. Thus having to take the cover off then the back, then the battery
Pressing the x in the corner of an app yet going to task manager and its still open
The over sensitivity when typing a text and showing words that don't make sense in the predictive text
Having to f**k about for ages to get wi-fi off grrr!
Having to install 3.5 compact .net. I still don't know how to do it
I understand there is a cab for the text and app for the wi-fi but surely it shouldn't be like this. I'm not a technophobe or whatever you want to call one and like to think I'm pretty clued up on tech, (That's why I bought the phone) yet I haven't a clue what a ROM does nor how to install them. I can just cope with cabs ha.
It seems Windows/HTC slogan should be 'There's a cab for that'. (not good)
Anyway rant over and Hello! I'm sure I'll be doing more learning over the next few weeks!
Dan
tips, tricks & tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
rom flashing guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625919
.net....3.5 download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
to flash roms from your pc you need activesync*:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-synch.mspx
*) for win vista/7 download "device center" instead of activesync, you'll find the link on the same page
Hi 27firesnake, hope you don't think I was being lazy. Thanks for the links though. I know I'll have to do some digging around, just thought I'd let people know of my story so far.
DanParker said:
Hi 27firesnake, hope you don't think I was being lazy. Thanks for the links though. I know I'll have to do some digging around, just thought I'd let people know of my story so far.
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not to worry mate, this community is all about sharing and helping each other.
Hi there. I'll try to give you more "readable" info about the issues you mentioned. I'll just change the order of the questions...
Having to install 3.5 compact .net. I still don't know how to do it
You can use the official Microsoft link provided by 27firesnake, but you'll have to do some reading... The simplest way is to download a cab and install it directly on your phone. You'll fine one here (item #18). You should do this first, as many great applications (including BsB Tweak) need this system component in order to work!
I haven't a clue what a ROM does nor how to install them
Well a ROM is basically your operating system (Windows Mobile) + HTC Sense (homepage and tabs). You are currently an official RO (usually called "stock ROM" in this forum). What we need to know is what version you use? Most likely 1.43 or 1.48, which are not the latest from HTC. The most recent released ROM is 1.66 and runs smoother and might give you better experience overall, even though there no major updates (just a compilation of fixes). Anyway, some people manage to get "not yet released official ROMs" (usually called "leaked ROM") and are able to install them on their devices. The latest leaked ROM is 2.07 (that should appear on the T-Mobile HD2). Anyway, I would not recommend installing a leaked or cooked ROM for the moment, since you're still a newbie and just received your device...
Simpler answer: you should install the official ROM 1.66. Try to go on the official HTC website to do so. If your serial number is rejected, you should contact your carrier (Virgin) to know when you'll be able to download it. People here will advice you to install HSPL to be able to bypass this protection, but as I said, you should wait a bit more, when you know Windows Mobile more. To learn more about that subject, go to the link in my signature.
Having to double tap and go into the email fully so it appears read
Well this doesn't seem to be a problem, or I don't understand? The email appearing in the Mail tab are just "previews" of your email and you should tap to get in the "real" e-mail application to read them fully.
Tapping to reply to a text yet nothing happens
I don't understand. You're not able to answer to a text-SMS ?
When using the 'phone' keypad it types in numbers
Again, this doesn't appear like a problem. I mean, you should compose phone numbers when in the phone application. If you write the beginning of a number, you'll automatically see the contacts whose number begin that way. Anyway, if you prefer, you can use the People tab (then "All People") to choose a contact typing the first letter (instead of phone number).
The phone screen basically crashing so when you press a button it doesn't show the unlock screen.
Is it real crashes or just freeze? I mean, I you wait for a long time, like 1 to 5 minutes, the lockscreen doesn't come back? Many people, including myself, reported some freezes from time to time, but the new ROM 1.66 really improved thing on my side. You might look for this thread for more and this one too.
Pressing the x in the corner of an app yet going to task manager and its still open
OK, this is easy to solve. Just install the "Duttys HTC Task Manager". It will install a task manager and enable the closing of any application using the cross. You can find the cab here (tip #7).
The over sensitivity when typing a text
The latest ROM 1.66 decreases the sensitivity of the touchscreen. If you can't install it, the easy way to solve this is to install the (very recommended) tweaking application called "BsB tweak". There are a lot of simple tweaks you can ON/OFF. One of these is called "decrease sensitivity" or something like that. If it's still too sensitive, then you can install the fixes found here. Just to be sure you don't have a flawed unit, check if you touchscreen has the following problems (go see the youtube videos too).
showing words that don't make sense in the predictive text
I don't have answers for that one, but I know the predictive is not the best on this mobile. You have two options:
1 - improve your typing thanks to the less sensitive touchscreen (if you make less errors, the prediction will be more accurate )
2 - install an alternative keyboard like Touchpal or maybe Swipe...
Having to f**k about for ages to get wi-fi off grrr!
Well, there are numerous ways to solve this issue.
- you can install a shortcut on you home page for the (already installed) "Comm Manager". Comm Manager is already installed and was designed for you: it is a collection of ON/OFF switchers (wifi, bluetooth etc).
- you can install an application that simply switch wifi ON/OFF. Then you install a shortcut on your home page, so you simply tap it to enable or disable wifi. You can find an application like that here (along with a lot other more)
Hope this long post helps
Smaberg's WiFi toggle cab (sticky in the apps and themes section) is a godsend (as is the BT Toggle cab). I have the 20 shortcuts cab installed so that on the top row I have shortcuts to each of these on the homescreen, along with my two most used apps and main contact (girlfriend).
BSB tweaks is definitely recommended also.
When you type a name into the Phone dialler, it may show numbers, but it narrows your options by alpha, so providing you can spell the name you're after it works just fine. You'd have to have triple tap letter selection there otherwise, which is just far less efficient than whats on offer.
guy .. i have experience something in my device .. i was wondering why my device keep pop out the error msg like service.exe and the device.exe ..
it is quite annoying because everytime pop out those error msg .. i have to open the back cover and soft reset it .. it is very serious .. happened everyday for 3 to 5 times ..
Tapping to reply to a text yet nothing happens
Yeh, you have to wait (if lots of messages) for it to load above. You can see this by the scroll bar on the right becomming shorter.
Once it has finished loading those messages, you can tap and it will start composing.
But if you tap before those messages have loaded; it does nothing.

[Q] blackstone virtual button doesn't work

Hi all.
First time in this part of the forums, so please excuse if it will sound like noob.
I've searched and couldn't find it so decided to post it...
I have a Touch HD Blackstone phone, I'm trying to cook myself a very small and quick ROM for it, as I do not need most of the apps you get with the other ROMs. When I cook plain ROM then virtual buttons (green, home, back and red) on it doesn't work. When I use one of the ROMs you get with the kitchen these work but got a lot of other apps.
Can someone tell me which module/ext package is responsible for handling these buttons? I really do not fancy trying them all 1 by 1, there is quite a few over there and cooking + flashing isn't the quickest thing to do.
Thanks in advance,
Yeramihi
Just be sure to include:
- ButtonSetting (i use version 3_16_0_0)
- TouchFlo (I use version 3_0_19142028)
and every thing will be OK
WBR
Siemens Lover
Thanks for reply.
Well, I have deliberately excluded TouchFlo from my ROM. But following your advice I Cooked empty ROM with just TouchFlo and ButtonSettings. Unfortunately On my phone it causes lots of problems. On same screens (regardles of app or menu itself) it takes over a second for the phone to register and acknowledge taps. And it always happens on the phone keypad.I can dial first two numbers but after that I need to hold my finger/stylus on the screen for at least second to be able to tap next number. Or any other key on the screen in a fact. I've managed to put this down to TouchFlo...
For some reason this happens only with SYS starting from 25xxx (more finger friendly version). I wouldn't mind using old one if I could only get some stock release of it from which I could start my work. Most of the old ones I could find are either fully modified (and I would like to start from square one) or links are expired.
So next question will be: can someone provide me with stock ROM for TouchHD version 21xxx please?
SiemensLover - Thanks for your advice - turned out to be exactly what I was looking, although it gives me another problem :/
Cheers
to solve the screen tap delay, be sure to have the following entry in ur registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GWE\Touch\Filter]
"MinimumTapTime"=dword:00000000
It will solve ur problem!
WBR
Siemens Lover

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