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Music Stuttering

I've searched, but not found anyone with this issue so it may be just me...
Playing music on the HD, I get frequent stutters - just maybe a tenth of a second pause. This happens every minute or so if I use the TF3D tab or WMP. Using PocketPlayer, if I set priority to "Above Normal" it improves, but still happens probably every five minutes (setting priority any higher shows no further improvement). Really annoying! Anyone have any ideas why this is happening? Thanks!

Have to tried checking the Microdive mode option in the Buffering page?
Another possibilty is either your SD card is defective or formatted incorrectly. Do a speed check using SKTools to see if it is within the normal range. In the past, I have had device hanging, freezing, slow read and write because of this issue, and a reformatting of the storage card with the correct parameter fixed it.

eaglesteve said:
Have to tried checking the Microdive mode option in the Buffering page?
...Do a speed check using SKTools to see if it is within the normal range.
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Thanks for the ideas. I already had Microdrive checked in Buffering (tried both ways). This same card, same format worked without stutter on my Polaris...
Ran SKTools:
Write: 794 KB/sec
Read: 6819 KB/sec
No idea if this is fast or slow!

rickgillyon said:
Thanks for the ideas. I already had Microdrive checked in Buffering (tried both ways). This same card, same format worked without stutter on my Polaris...
Ran SKTools:
Write: 794 KB/sec
Read: 6819 KB/sec
No idea if this is fast or slow!
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That does not look unusual. The value could vary from run to run, but I'd say your card is okay.
Is your problem just with one song, or all of them?

All, mainly 128kbps WMA, but some MP3 too. I guess no-one else has this issue - wonder if it's something I have installed? I don't fancy a hard reset to find out...

In the Diamond camp (virtually same hardware) this is an infamous and AFAIK unsolved problem. It would not surprise me if the HD has the same problems. I'm looking forward to more reports in the matter.
However, to improve the read/write speeds on your microSD card, you can install the driver provided by tnyynt in the stickied video playback thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446366

Did you try out Tnyynt's SDTuneUp.cab? Search the forum and you will find it.
It makes SD card access significantly faster.

I had problems with SDTuneup and removed it - my machine froze up a few times in PocketPlayer. Anyway, I remembered I'd changed some settings in AdvancedConfig very early on to improve performace (cache etc.). I changed all these back to default, and things seem a lot better - I'll see how it goes!

rickgillyon said:
All, mainly 128kbps WMA, but some MP3 too. I guess no-one else has this issue - wonder if it's something I have installed? I don't fancy a hard reset to find out...
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I have the same/similar problem! Nothing installed (just got it yesterday). Tried playing some podcasts over bluetooth and got stuttering every 5 sec or so (which sometimes would go away). Thought it's a connection problem, but then realized that it doesn't skip - just pauses for 0.3 sec.
Disabled WIFI and this fixed the problem. Looks like a hardware interrupt from WIFI is causing the studdering. Anyone has a real fix for this?

HTC Touch runing really slow

My Touch became progressively slow to the point where it hardley runs and storage mem is down to .04MB for some reason. Without installing anyting or making any huge changes to the phone what sort of things can cause it to suddenly become slow? I'm hoping there is a quick fix so I don't have to perform a hardboot. I noticed that the mxip_notify file is about 4.5MB but maybe this is normal. Here is what I am also noticing:
- mxip_notify file 4.5MB
- clock on HTC home screen doesn't change
- softboot does not improve performance
- low memory warning message constantly pops up informing me that I need
to free some memory.
This is the original ROM.
Thanks in advance.

In my experience is that you need to do a hard reset, I know its a hastle, but it helps speed it up loads.

my touch used to run out of memory as well, then i connected it to my pc, and browsed to computer\htc touch\application data\info feed\cache and cleared all the data that was there, it freed about 6 MB, also cleared the feeds folder, and freed another 2 MBs, the performance seems to have improved and i no longer get the out of memory error. i dont know if this is the culprit in ur case, but it worked for me, so u can give that a try . or try opening each and every folder in ur Touch through windows and see what files are taking lots of space. also i recently installed Home Screen ++ with which OCd my processor to 266MHz and in certain apps the performence boost is amazing. u can try that as well.

I was really hoping I would not have to hard reset my Touch since installing applications can be a pain and I have a lot of SMSs I would not like to loose. I have seen applications out there that back up SMSs and allow you to restore the SMSs back on the phone but I am not confident it will work.
And while hard resetting will solve the problem, it does not ultimately answer why my Touch suddenly ran out of space.
I'm wondering what the size of most user's mxip_notify file is.

SD lagg???

I keep looking at other forums and am trying to figure out if the SD card in the problem why the phone freezes? Does anyone know anything about this... Agree or Disagree

ldominguez1986 said:
I keep looking at other forums and am trying to figure out if the SD card in the problem why the phone freezes? Does anyone know anything about this... Agree or Disagree
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I happen to agree, based on the evidence in the half-dozen more threads here discussing that same thing. It'll be pretty easy to determine if that's your issue...try running the phone without the card in it, and see if that makes a difference.
Now, technically, I believe the issue is related to the card, but may not be beacuse of the card itself....it seems like the phone chokes when there's a lot of files on the card and it has to index them. People who install apps to the card seem to experience this (or at least report it) more than people who don't, which would support that theory because installing apps to the card fills it up with files faster (per MB of space) than even moving a bunch of music might...and a large number of files to index could lead to this kind of behavior (theoretically) as opposed to just a card that was "full" by occupied volume. Again, you can test this by starting with an empty card, then filling it up gradually, and seeing if the issue appears at some point in the process.
In my opinion, the commonly-seen lagging issues in these phones may often (but not always) be casued by a combination of factors:
-class-2 card
-high file count on the card
-sense's (and maybe winmo's..?) constant re-indexing of card contents
Now, some people have reported that copying the card's contents to your desktop, reformatting the card, then copying the files back on to it resolves the issue for them. So, bottom line...who knows?
EDIT: here's maybe a better explanation (by example) of what I'm trying to say about the card being "full"...
Example 1: you have a handful of .mkv files ripped straight from bluray on your card, ~2GB each....putting 7 of those files on your (16GB) card would almost fill the available volume. But, since that's a small number of files, it wouldn't take the phone long to index them at all, despite the card being almost completely full. (again, my guess)
Example 2: you install a bunch of apps (say, 30-40), and almost all of them to the card. Even though those apps won't eat a whole lot of space on the card total (far less than 1GB probably), each one can have potentially dozens of individual files installed for it. In this case, the card wouldn't show as being very full (just from the apps anyway), but the large number of files would potentially cause any indexing of the card to slow down in proportion. (guess what...still just my guess) And, a lower-class card could contribute to the slowness in this case too...that bottleneck could multiply the effects.
It may help some people out to hide the program folders on the card from indexing, just to reduce the file count that has to be sorted through, but that's just an idle thought that just occured to me.

sirphunkee said:
I happen to agree, based on the evidence in the half-dozen more threads here discussing that same thing. It'll be pretty easy to determine if that's your issue...try running the phone without the card in it, and see if that makes a difference.
Now, technically, I believe the issue is related to the card, but may not be beacuse of the card itself....it seems like the phone chokes when there's a lot of files on the card and it has to index them. People who install apps to the card seem to experience this (or at least report it) more than people who don't, which would support that theory because installing apps to the card fills it up with files faster (per MB of space) than even moving a bunch of music might...and a large number of files to index could lead to this kind of behavior (theoretically) as opposed to just a card that was "full" by occupied volume. Again, you can test this by starting with an empty card, then filling it up gradually, and seeing if the issue appears at some point in the process.
In my opinion, the commonly-seen lagging issues in these phones may often (but not always) be casued by a combination of factors:
-class-2 card
-high file count on the card
-sense's (and maybe winmo's..?) constant re-indexing of card contents
Now, some people have reported that copying the card's contents to your desktop, reformatting the card, then copying the files back on to it resolves the issue for them. So, bottom line...who knows?
EDIT: here's maybe a better explanation (by example) of what I'm trying to say about the card being "full"...
Example 1: you have a handful of .mkv files ripped straight from bluray on your card, ~2GB each....putting 7 of those files on your (16GB) card would almost fill the available volume. But, since that's a small number of files, it wouldn't take the phone long to index them at all, despite the card being almost completely full. (again, my guess)
Example 2: you install a bunch of apps (say, 30-40), and almost all of them to the card. Even though those apps won't eat a whole lot of space on the card total (far less than 1GB probably), each one can have potentially dozens of individual files installed for it. In this case, the card wouldn't show as being very full (just from the apps anyway), but the large number of files would potentially cause any indexing of the card to slow down in proportion. (guess what...still just my guess) And, a lower-class card could contribute to the slowness in this case too...that bottleneck could multiply the effects.
It may help some people out to hide the program folders on the card from indexing, just to reduce the file count that has to be sorted through, but that's just an idle thought that just occured to me.
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Thank you, I do understand what you mean by the amount of files on the card. By the way, are you havong freezing problems with your phone??

ldominguez1986 said:
Thank you, I do understand what you mean by the amount of files on the card. By the way, are you havong freezing problems with your phone??
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Actually, no...I've had absolutely zero issues with this phone, and I've had it (and used it constantly) for two weeks as of tonight. No freezing, no lag, nada. I don't keep a ton of stuff on my memory card (~15 mp3's, 4 .avi's, and 30-40 archived cabs, small handful of other junk), and I don't install any apps there (though I haven't bothered to remove the stock stuff put there by tmo).

I experience this lag, and altough i kinda agree with the card being the issue at the same time i am kind of hesitant. See the Card is a Class 2 which in theory will have a throughput of about 2mb a sec right? Mine peaks out at about 2.8mbps..... to me thats fast.... so i am not sure but i feel like the choke point is porbably in hardware. Again this is probably all bogus lol.
Like i said i do have this problem too, and i even reformatted my SD card and loaded all my files again. The problem still persist, and i really only notice it when i am listening to music via usb in my car. Also when i am scrolling through the pictures in my gallery(pics are in the SD).
Hope this makes atleast a bit of sense lol.

Disable Document Indexing by editing the registry or using a cab floating around the forums. Do a quick search and you should find it. This eliminates that lag no matter how many files on you SD card, with no degradation of performance opening files on the card that I can see.

nice man, thanks will have to look into that...

I have two HD2s (mine and my wife's). The experience with the two phones couldn't be more different. Mine has been perfect. My wife's has been very problematic. She has experienced slow, laggy performance, freezing that is only cured by pulling the battery, inability to unlock, text messages freezing for a minute plus, etc....... She isn't happy in the least that I convinced her to get rid of her blackberry.
On my wife's phone. I have tried a hard reset, various tweaks from these forums, switching in a 4GB class 6 card, removing the SD card completely and a few other things. Some helped a little but the phone just never worked right. It is currently being replaced by Tmo. With the troubleshooting I did I can't blame the SD card for the problems that phone had.
My phone on the other hand has been great and I have not had any problems with the SD card. I install all my games and non-essential apps to the SD card. I have ~650 MP3s on the card as well as ~900 various files that I take to and from work. There is a little over 8GB of data on the card with all these files. The only lag I have experienced is when switching to the HTC media player it takes a while (< 1 min) for it to index all my music and get to a usable state. I can try swapping in a 4 GB class 6 card to see if it makes a difference though since I have not had a problem I'm not sure I will notice a difference.

jehlinger said:
Disable Document Indexing by editing the registry or using a cab floating around the forums. Do a quick search and you should find it. This eliminates that lag no matter how many files on you SD card, with no degradation of performance opening files on the card that I can see.
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Will that mess with anything on the media player, tho? Like will it still sort the music into albums, artists, etc on the HTC media player?

illconn said:
I experience this lag, and altough i kinda agree with the card being the issue at the same time i am kind of hesitant. See the Card is a Class 2 which in theory will have a throughput of about 2mb a sec right? Mine peaks out at about 2.8mbps..... to me thats fast.... so i am not sure but i feel like the choke point is porbably in hardware. Again this is probably all bogus lol.
Like i said i do have this problem too, and i even reformatted my SD card and loaded all my files again. The problem still persist, and i really only notice it when i am listening to music via usb in my car. Also when i am scrolling through the pictures in my gallery(pics are in the SD).
Hope this makes atleast a bit of sense lol.
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From wikipedia, here's info on the speeds of the different class-ratings for SD cards:
The following are the ratings of some currently available cards:
Class 2: 16 Mbit/s (2 MB/s)
Class 4: 32 Mbit/s (4 MB/s)
Class 6: 48 Mbit/s (6 MB/s)
Class 10: 80 Mbit/s (10 MB/s)
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so, if your transfers are capping out at 2.8Mbps, that's just a hair more than 1/8th of the 2MBps that the card should be able to handle.

jehlinger said:
Disable Document Indexing by editing the registry or using a cab floating around the forums. Do a quick search and you should find it. This eliminates that lag no matter how many files on you SD card, with no degradation of performance opening files on the card that I can see.
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Will the phone work as normal after installing the cab?? I am knew to xda and winmo. Been on android os since it came out. I hate to ask but could someone post the link for that .cab file that fixes the lag

I saw that sirphunkee had posted in another thread that simply turning off your "recent documents" tab in sense should stop the indexing and therefore the lag as well. I had turned off the recent documents tab from almost the start of using the phone. I have not experienced the lag problem so this might be a testament to this working. I will turn it back on and see if things change for the worse throughout the day.
UPDATE: I have a had a little time to play with it during my lunch break. Everything seems to be fine with recent documents tab turned on. The slider seems a little slugish in now, like there is a second of lag before it moves. It doesn't happen all the time and I may not notice if I wasn't looking for it. I can brows just fine in the file explorer, texting isn't a problem other than the clunky interface, all is well so far.
Also of note is that I am running the stock ROM with co0kie's home tab and a slew of other visual mods (mostly transparencies). I also made quite a few changes to memory allocation via registry edits. This might be the difference and worth trying. I made many of the changes noted in this thread, basically all of them after "Suitable for all ROMs" and before "Added 11/2/10". I wish I would have thought about this earlier.

Best kodi settings on nexus player?

Just want to get some input on what settings, etc that you have set for the best possible experience with kodi on the nexus player. For me it was running flawless until got the message cache full or something like that, so I started digging and found this http://androidpcreview.com/fix-kodi-buffering-problems-heres-how-to-modify-the-kodi-cache/2611/
And had the message go away but starting having shutter problems, so I enabled expert mode on kodi and set video to match monitor refresh rate and so far so good. Too early to tell. Also I disabled logging. Any other input would be greatly appreciated!

Run zero cache tweak and run the beast. It's the best kodi setup
http://youtu.be/Ah6QR2lyQhk

https://www.reddit.com/r/nexusplayer/comments/34ngg8/kodi_cache_buffer_settings_from_kodi_website/

Showtime_III said:
Run zero cache tweak and run the beast. It's the best kodi setup
http://youtu.be/Ah6QR2lyQhk
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I've read that the zero cache tweak will wear out your flash memory, which will render your device useless. Due to that I've never tried it. I only get buffering issues on 1080p content though.

lost2030 said:
I've read that the zero cache tweak will wear out your flash memory, which will render your device useless. Due to that I've never tried it. I only get buffering issues on 1080p content though.
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I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.

Showtime_III said:
I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.
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Any buffering issues with 1080p content?? My ISP is Comcast and I get 75 Mbps down. Haven't tested the speed on the NP cause I don't know how, but I would think that is a fast enough connection to not get buffering like I do. I also have it on a 5Ghz connection.

lost2030 said:
Any buffering issues with 1080p content?? My ISP is Comcast and I get 75 Mbps down. Haven't tested the speed on the NP cause I don't know how, but I would think that is a fast enough connection to not get buffering like I do. I also have it on a 5Ghz connection.
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A lot of it depends on the source. If you get a good 1080p stream it will run fine.

yazyazoo said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexusplayer/comments/34ngg8/kodi_cache_buffer_settings_from_kodi_website/
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Noticed on there it says read buffer factor 20, think it would totally freeze the nexus player, though from reading lil more might bump mine from 1.5 to 2. Some streams run well, while some I have had shuttering video, def keeping my eyes on which sources have been good, I've had 1080p run like a champ with some and 720 run choppy

Showtime_III said:
Run zero cache tweak and run the beast. It's the best kodi setup
http://youtu.be/Ah6QR2lyQhk
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I too had read zero cache has caused problems, but if you have been running it for while, what the hell lol. Drive fails I'll figure out how to replace with another ssd

Right! I'm not trying to pass this nexus off to my children lol. By the time I end up having problems I'll be onto the nexus 2 or nexus 3.

Showtime_III said:
I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.
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It's not recommended to use zero cache for small box devices as they are very limited on storage. I've experience 100% storage used when using it on Amazon Fire Tv box, reset setup again and worked a week or two then bam 100% storage used again. whats worse in aftv if this happens only way to recover is to reset. after doing this the second time and setting things up i DID NOT use the script running perfect no issues!!
also have the NP i have read around other places that zero cache is not to be used on these devices!! for the same results 100% storage usage.
zero cache is to download whatever file is streamed so if the file is 3 GB your more then likely screwed. regular settings download much much less at a time thus not surpassing storage space
also zero cache works more for pausing a stream as it will continue to download x file with no limits these little boxes need limits vs setting limits when paused for extended times the stream will break due to cache filling up, this is the only reason to use zero cache settings to pause for extended periods of time. this is why for most people you can only pause for very short periods without the stream breaking
a side note this is also the reason when watching something and it just stops, its because you got a fast link and cache fills up thus breaking the link.
if your experiencing buffering then likely its a very slow link, and sometimes your ISP however more than likely the link. nothing is wrong with original settings in kodi
if your streaming your media within your network and are having buffering issues you have network issues within your own equipment/network.
good luck

alexintexas said:
It's not recommended to use zero cache for small box devices as they are very limited on storage. I've experience 100% storage used when using it on Amazon Fire Tv box, reset setup again and worked a week or two then bam 100% storage used again. whats worse in aftv if this happens only way to recover is to reset. after doing this the second time and setting things up i DID NOT use the script running perfect no issues!!
also have the NP i have read around other places that zero cache is not to be used on these devices!! for the same results 100% storage usage.
zero cache is to download whatever file is streamed so if the file is 3 GB your more then likely screwed. regular settings download much much less at a time thus not surpassing storage space
also zero cache works more for pausing a stream as it will continue to download x file with no limits these little boxes need limits vs setting limits when paused for extended times the stream will break due to cache filling up, this is the only reason to use zero cache settings to pause for extended periods of time. this is why for most people you can only pause for very short periods without the stream breaking
a side note this is also the reason when watching something and it just stops, its because you got a fast link and cache fills up thus breaking the link.
if your experiencing buffering then likely its a very slow link, and sometimes your ISP however more than likely the link. nothing is wrong with original settings in kodi
if your streaming your media within your network and are having buffering issues you have network issues within your own equipment/network.
good luck
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Thanks for the info, ya havnt paused for long periods with zero cache enabled, with the standard setting in kodi I was getting cache full error messages after the first few days of use, it was working perfect up until that point..... Maybe with standard setting, every few days enter maintenance menu add-on and manually clear cache, think I might try that. If that works, than I'll just make a tasker profile that launches kodi and enters the menu and clears the cache, every morning g at lime 4am lol

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I've been using zero cache for a while and my nexus is running like a champ.
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Thanks for the info, ya havnt paused for long periods with zero cache enabled, with the standard setting in kodi I was getting cache full error messages after the first few days of use, it was working perfect up until that point..... Maybe with standard setting, every few days enter maintenance menu add-on and manually clear cache, think I might try that. If that works, than I'll just make a tasker profile that launches kodi and enters the menu and clears the cache, every morning g at lime 4am lol
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the cache full should not be an error msg, its letting you know the set cache limit has been reached,
meaning usually if paused or buffering etc.
i experience this with more sd links starting out slow, it buffers, get cache full message video resumes, sometimes it will repeat, sometimes the video just stops, again if the link is going alot faster than you are streaming the cache fills thus breaking the link in turn video just stops. this would be another reason to use zero cache settings, however if you do not have storage expanded on the device its not a good idea to use zero settings. much less if you are streaming HD content links
i have noticed that some files streamed stay hung in the cache, from my understanding the cache of the file should auto dump, in cases in zero cache settings this does not happen, the reason the file's link for whatever reason broke thus not completing, so it stays in storage and not dumping.. this was the case with my aftv and the outcome of 100% storage used, also clearing/using the supposed cache script after these events did not work, so i do not know where the file/files where being stored and aftv does not like 100% storage used period. Can not say how the NP reacts to 100% storage used as i do not use the zero cache settings on this device
to many people are confused what zero cache settings does and what its for
also in zero cache you will never get cache full message as there is no limit.

Exactly. Using the clear cache tools inside of kodi doesn't work for me either. Every week or so, I'll go into nexus settings/apps/kodi/force stop and clear cache. Never had a problem.

Its strange sometimes the player is good sometimes it has troubles buffering, I've also used kodi on my computer that is in the same room. Also on WiFi and picked the exact same link and source and it was buffering like a damn champ..... I find rebooting the nexus player seems to clear things up, I'm suspecting that since we don't really have a recent apps screen that when my kids go play games etc on the nexus player, its being stored in the background eating up the precious ram space thus creating very little room for buffer when not using zero cache. Might try taking off zero cache and create a tasker profile that will kill certain apps (all the games, YouTube etc.) Upon launch on kodi...... I'll report back how it goes

fwiw kodi 16 jarvis is finalized and the GNP running android 6.0.1 can still benefit from loading this xml file.
I put it on my google drive, then copied it over to local storage on the player using es file explorer.
I stream local 1080p content over a 5ghz N connection and the router is in the same room as the player.

[Help]Received strange message from Android system telling me temp too high while pla

Almost everything in the title. I have an oneplus 8 pro 12gigas
Was playing atom RPG during 1h and a half maybe and received this message from Android system telling me to reduce brightness (which wasn't at the max actually) and telling me as well that some process gonna shut down...
Did you already experiment this kind of issue?
Is it normal ?
Thanks a lot
Cheers

sonydesouza said:
Almost everything in the title. I have an oneplus 8 pro 12gigas
Was playing atom RPG during 1h and a half maybe and received this message from Android system telling me to reduce brightness (which wasn't at the max actually) and telling me as well that some process gonna shut down...
Did you already experiment this kind of issue?
Is it normal ?
Thanks a lot
Cheers
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Once. During a. Microsoft teams video call where I was recording the call via screen recorder. Not during a game so far

Tons of times. In many different contexts. First phone ever with which I get this message at least once a week. There isn't much you can do, except maybe removing your case when you play, and/or using a custom kernel which allows for lower clocks (or if you root your device and uses some apps to limits the clocks).

I've also seen this message, and taking the case off seems to help a little...

Thanks for the quick reply.
Have to say that I have a massive Spigen hard case but never experimented these kind of issues before with my other phones.
Anyway, I reduced a bit the brightness, saved my game and 2 min after, system told me that everything was ok...
Don't want to root my phone anymore. Was a big root/flasher in the past ? but don't have time anymore to play with my phone like that .
Will see what happens in the future.
I read also that some players experimented this issue playing atom RPG. Maybe it's the game dunno...