Actually X1 already at the 528Mhz...*Pic inside* - XPERIA X1 General

I read many thread complained about the X1 has been underclocked at 400Mhz, so the video playback still can have the improvement in future, when it's cpu runs at 528Mhz..
Today i installed tcpmp 0.72 recomp-3(multi-video player) and then went to option page, as the screenshot below, it showed 528Mhz. It changed to 530Mhz before i capture it
My thought :
1) X1 already at 528Mhz, but the playback still laggy on coreplayer 1.30 and very much laggier on other video player~~ the video is 480 x 360, 30fps, 44k aac and *.mp4. only get 10-16fps with acceptable audio playback.
2) X1's cpu and gpu and ram are good quality one from data sheet on internet, but the actual performance really let me down... tell me how to overclock?! i realize that cpu speed directly affect the video decode.
I only left a hope on developer's software coding to improve X1's cpu performance and please leave your thoughts and ideas*

Are you sure this isn't reading the system info? (Settings-->System-->Device Info or About)
I have a feeling it might be, if this is just the media player?

Calvin H said:
Are you sure this isn't reading the system info? (Settings-->System-->Device Info or About)
I have a feeling it might be, if this is just the media player?
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He says the clock speed flunctuated between 528MHz-530MHz.

i use CorePlayer 1.2.5 Build 4506..... i can play aac and *.mp4 smoothly.and *.avi (divx of 624x352, 23fps and 48K) and i get 21FPS on avg.....

agent_47 said:
i use CorePlayer 1.2.5 Build 4506..... i can play aac and *.mp4 smoothly.and *.avi (divx of 624x352, 23fps and 48K) and i get 21FPS on avg.....
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yep, just now i degraded the same movie to 20fps, then only 6 frames dropped after 1000 frames.. but i hate to convert, lol

foxcheng said:
1) X1 already at 528Mhz, but the playback still laggy on coreplayer 1.30 and very much laggier on other video player~~ the video is 480 x 360, 30fps, 44k aac and *.mp4. only get 10-16fps with acceptable audio playback.
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Are you actually aware of what you demand here? AVC is extremely CPU demanding and you just have a small handheld device. The performance in my point of view is almost awesome. Even my laptop with 1.6 GHZ Pentium M has trouble playing high quality AVC files and you can't directly compare the Desktop MHz to the MHz of the X1 ARM processor.
The only way to improve performance is to use the graphic acceleration on chip, which is actually used by the media panel and Windows Media Player. Try if it works better.
Maybe one day there will be a CorePlayer release with real graphics hardware acceleration support.
I find these results already quite outstanding and I think the X1 is a really powerful device.

Powerpoint also uses hardware acceleration, same as Media player, the first few seconds of Media player and Powerpoint, are choppy becuase the X1 ramps up from 400 mhz to headline 528mhz. Microsoft has included hardware acceleration for software that it is responsible for, applications that need it, it is third party applications that are failing to make full use of the extra processing power.
Whether Microsoft has made hardware acceleration accesible to third party software engineers is another matter.
If there is a registry trigger to initiate the ramping up from 400 mhz to 528 mhz, then im sure we would all like to know this, so we can make use of it. Graphically intense Programs like S2V would benefit from this greatly.
It is my suspicion that the 128mb RAM put aside for the graphics chip, only becomes active and avliable when the processor is triggered to run at 528mhz.
As far as Powerpoint is concerned im impressed how fast the X1 can render complicated detailed scenes, if you have run some of the examples on the Screen Candy thread, you can run them on your PC and on your X1, virtually at the same speed and quality.
If and when someone find the registry trigger for ramping up, that will be a day of days for the X1, the day the the X1 becomes liberated for third party designers to realy utilise the power that lies dormant under the hood, when running none Microsoft applications.

Mark A Cilenti said:
It is my suspicion that the 128mb RAM put aside for the graphics chip, only becomes active and avliable when the processor is triggered to run at 528mhz.
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lol
why? and what kind of arch do you know that act like this?
I'm not saying that's impossible, but that sounds... "freak"... and I'm saying "freak" because I don't want to say "stupid"
xperia runs @400mhz by default as stated by manufacturer specification. Maybe we can overclock it, but for now this is a simple mistake by tcpmp

I think the current xperia can playback low fps only because even playback the recording movie at 28fps, the quality is laggy and blur. if we record using 15fps, i can expect a better playback result^^ btw, our sound in video recording only mono 8k amr!? anyway to change this now?

My camera suck to begin with... every video I take is pixelated on many parts.

The Snapdragon processors supposedly support on-the-fly powering up/down various parts of the CPU as required, and can scale the CPU Mhz. Can't ours do the same?

System info show the model of the CPU , not the real frequency in live.
So , 400 or 528 mhz?

foxvengeor said:
System info show the model of the CPU , not the real frequency in live.
So , 400 or 528 mhz?
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This is what i was trying to get at

johnchan78 said:
The Snapdragon processors supposedly support on-the-fly powering up/down various parts of the CPU as required, and can scale the CPU Mhz. Can't ours do the same?
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no, by design

I think the clock speed is dynamic, maybe we can open WMP to trigger clock at 528Mhz then suddenly jump to today screen to read the 400Mhz is changed or not. Anyone please try this, because i don't have the cpu clock plugin on today screen..

foxcheng said:
I think the clock speed is dynamic, maybe we can open WMP to trigger clock at 528Mhz then suddenly jump to today screen to read the 400Mhz is changed or not. Anyone please try this, because i don't have the cpu clock plugin on today screen..
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I thought of this one, but unfortunately, WMP pauses when it goes to background, and the Today screen is refreshed as it displays. So I can't tell if it's not changing or if it's just changing back too quick.
EDIT: Tried running 16 apps and playing a video (tried a 720p but that just played the sound and ignored the video so no use), then played a normal size video that wasnt HD just something I converted to 800x480 and managed to get the CPU usage to hit 99% still didn't budge from 400MHz. Looks like the CPU is fixed at 400MHz unless there are some specific conditions required for it to increase that arent being met.
The point is, even with 16 apps open, and RAM usage at 54% it still didnt stutter the video.
So... do we really need it to go any faster, or am I missing something?

I remember the same discussion with the Samsung CPU of the Hermes. It was also running at 300 MHz instead of the 400 it was officially running with. At least the tools displayed this. Since also the Qualcomm seems to have this issue, my guess would be that it is rather something wrong with the register displaying the current processor speed. Maybe it is something wrong with the implementation of the ARM core itself - I mean, not many people are really interested into the current clock speed of their mobile
It would be interesting if other devices with the same core like the Touch HD, the Diamond, Raphael and so on are displaying the same value.

Hi,
If you want to see 528MHz you can do very simple thing - just connect X1 to external power supply. When the device is powered the CPU is running at 528MHz

bigu1975 said:
Hi,
If you want to see 528MHz you can do very simple thing - just connect X1 to external power supply. When the device is powered the CPU is running at 528MHz
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Real? Screenshot please.
It can be a way for force the 528 MHZ all the time...

Hmmm,
It looks I was to harry (maybe).
I checked the speed under tcpmp 0.72 and power supply connected. It showed 528MHz so I thought it is because the power supply. After posted my post I disconnected power supply and tcpmp 0.72 still shows 528MHz.
The reason I wrote about power supply is I have also the HP 614 device - it has Intel CPU but it is also scalable by system and there under tcpmp I can see different CPU speeds e.g. 214-412MHz but when the external power supply is connected it always show maximum.
I thing this could make sense - under external power supply CPU should running on max speed.
I am sorry for confusion, I am still learning about my new X1 and about qualcom

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Very Interesting Coreplayer results

Hi,
okay I was playing around with Coreplayer changing settings etc from Raw Framebuffer (which is currently the only stable way to play video) to GDI and then to ATI Imageon, which we all know causes problems (hence why we use Raw Framebuffer)
For some reason it became stable with one video that I was playing using ATI Imageon - so seized the opportunity to benchmark the video; first using Raw Framebuffer:
Results:
Speed: 71%
Original data rate: 1.60mbs
Bench data rate: 1.15mbs
Then using ATI Imageon (with a few jitters):
Speed: 197%
Original data rate: 1.60mbs
Bench data rate: 2.78mbs
And I gotta say apart from a few jitters and glitches the video when using ATI Imageon looked amazing like it was anti-aliased.
Can't wait to Coreplayer is optimised to work Samsung and ATI combo inside the Trinity!
Strange, I use tcpmp with ATI Imageon on almost all files... Works like a charm...
I use tcpmp with the ATI Imagion and it gives weird screen flickering (entire screen, not just video). After I switch forth and back between fullscreen and windowed mode a couple of times I can mostly get it to show the video. I do however not find the quality of the output particular good - rather bad actually and full of artifacts compared to the other modes
Exactly
What I am saying is when Coreplayer is optimised for ATI/Samsung combo it will work treat - hence the benchmark results. Showing a DRAMATIC performance increase.
This thread was designed to show what will come when software and or ROM's are worked on with the Trinity to use it's full potential.
core player
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i m new in this forum
i need the core player ..will u plz send me the core player on [email protected] or on the same forum .....
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niks2luv: http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/
Download it from there.

Video playback problem (not that it's slow). Garbled screen.

So it seems that I'm unable to play back any video format besides WMV.
WMV's play back fine while other formats (e.g. xvid, divx) do not play back at all. Coreplayer crashes to today screen or shows me a green garbled screen with vertical lines.
WMP just freezes and does nothing.
Is this a known issue (I didn't find anything using search)?
Any format of audio plays back perfectly fine (as long as it is not embedded in a video).
I had this, you need to change the Video driver to Raw frame buffer and all will be well. I use TCPMP and this was what I had to do for it to work.
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I had this, you need to change the Video driver to Raw frame buffer and all will be well. I use TCPMP and this was what I had to do for it to work.
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I had done this at first initially too, but simdeo (fellow member) suggested Imageon setting, but NOT Imageon Hardware decoder. This has massively improved speed and visual quality, but you will get intermittent lines across the interface, but not in full screen mode. Settings should be:
TCPMP:
Video Driver = ATI IMAGEON
Buffering = Microdrive (ticked)
Advanced = Tick only: D-Pad, Use System Vol, Benchmark (none od these settings affect performance, just my preference - but selecting other options may adversly affect performance)
Direct Draw = YV12 and tick 'Overlay with colorkey' only.
That's it. Best performance to date and can play torrent or own DVD rips perfectly, providing they were not encoded as high as 640x480.
I'm having the same problems but cannot for the life of me find any settings on Coreplayer that will let me change the buffer settings or the driver.
I'm sure I'm missing something here.
Coreplayer version =1.0.4 build 716
It's the latest version afaik.
Adey
Ok, I found the settings in Coreplayer (yeah, I know, should have looked harder..) and all is now well.
Ok, so I've got really decent playback from standard 350mb XVid TV programs but I'm still having what appear to be buffering problems.
Does anyone know what the ideal buffer settings are?
Adey
I have found that overclocking the CPU yields in much better playback (although not perfect).
If I want to view a 640x480 video I run the CPU at 728 Mhz (what program would allow higher?), but still the fps is not up to par. I would say the playback is around 90-95%.
Calavaro said:
I have found that overclocking the CPU yields in much better playback (although not perfect).
If I want to view a 640x480 video I run the CPU at 728 Mhz (what program would allow higher?), but still the fps is not up to par. I would say the playback is around 90-95%.
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Hi Calavaro. What app are you using to o/c the CPU? & exactly what settings do you use? Oh and lastly what's the power consumtion like if left on 728 Mhz all the time?
Cheers.
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Hi Calavaro. What app are you using to o/c the CPU? & exactly what settings do you use? Oh and lastly what's the power consumtion like if left on 728 Mhz all the time?
Cheers.
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we use PHM to overclock our device, if you set to 728 and push mail and bluetooth all the time, you won't last for whole day, maybe just about 7 hours. But really you don't need your device on 728 all the time, and personally i think 728 is a bit unstable, so i use 662 when my device is on, otherwise 228 the rest of the time to save battery.
You MUST disable the internal scale from the PHM setting, otherwise it won't work
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we use PHM to overclock our device, if you set to 728 and push mail and bluetooth all the time, you won't last for whole day, maybe just about 7 hours. But really you don't need your device on 728 all the time, and personally i think 728 is a bit unstable, so i use 662 when my device is on, otherwise 228 the rest of the time to save battery.
You MUST disable the internal scale from the PHM setting, otherwise it won't work
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Thanks for that Wu. What version of PHM are you using?
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Thanks for that Wu. What version of PHM are you using?
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latest version from the website
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latest version from the website
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Cheers mate. Got it now. Latest version 4.13 is found here:
http://www.wizcode.com/downloads
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Cheers mate. Got it now. Latest version 4.13 is found here:
http://www.wizcode.com/downloads
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btw, mine one says 4.14 for some reason, and i can't remember where i get it from....
findus said:
I had this, you need to change the Video driver to Raw frame buffer and all will be well. I use TCPMP and this was what I had to do for it to work.
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just wanted to say thanks for this thread. was going nuts with the same problem re: vertical lines, pink screen, etc. almost made a post to ask you guys what kind of parameters or settings you used for your video players. i use core and i confirm that the "raw frame buffer" works well.
cheers
About TCPMP with the best settings applied as mentioned in this thread, is there something else we can do to further improve the playback quality?
I have some clips that feature "fast moving action" e.g. action scenes in movies. These clips will actually play, but when the "fast moving action" is there, you can see that it isn't going really that smooth/fast enough, resulting in noticeable, fast upcoming blocks/lines when you look closely. I'm not sure how to describe this effect best, but I guess pretty much everyone knows what I mean here.
Thanks!!
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About TCPMP with the best settings applied as mentioned in this thread, is there something else we can do to further improve the playback quality?
I have some clips that feature "fast moving action" e.g. action scenes in movies. These clips will actually play, but when the "fast moving action" is there, you can see that it isn't going really that smooth/fast enough, resulting in noticeable, fast upcoming blocks/lines when you look closely. I'm not sure how to describe this effect best, but I guess pretty much everyone knows what I mean here.
Thanks!!
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Hi.
Try playing any 3 minute segment of the video you have then click on File/Media Info and check the resolution of your video. If its below 640x480, then the problem is most likely a low bit rate used to encode the video, hence the pixelated blocks in high speed.
You can get away with less, but I encode now only at 480x320 @850kbps and get superb results each time...DVD quality and High definition quality too when I encode from HD source.
Can't say anymore than that. Click on my name and look through my posts, there will be a recent one entitled something like 'Excellent playback via Coreplayer & TCPMP'. This should help a bit if you have the time to read.

slingplayer performance

I am sure anyone who has had experience of it will agree slingplayer is one of the best applications for a pocket pc.
However on the Ameo, which is the variant I have, its performance is a lot to be desired. Whether I use it on the wifi or HSDPA it seems to be jerky all the time (not a very good user experience). The stats say the 300kb/s to 400kb/s is being achieved but the frame rate doesn’t go much above 10 (is it the darn video driver again?). The settings i use are:
Enable slingstream optimization
High action
video resolution : 320 by 240
audio : mono low
Managed to borrow a dell Axim X51 (qVGA screen, 412Mhz version) the other day, and tested its slingplayer performance and frankly was amazed at the difference. It was managing 30 frames per second and was super smooth whether portrait or landscape (same slingplayer settings by the way).
Ameo has the same processor as the Dell only faster, different graphics chip though.
Is it because Dell has a proper video driver or the fact that it is only a qVGA resolution i.e. 4 times less area to display. You will note that best performing devices as far as SPB graphics benchmark are qVGA.
I have read on threads people being pretty happy with slingplayer performance but that’s a subjective statement.
Could people who have used slingplayer on any variant of the athena, i.e. advantage X7500, X7501, dopod 1000 etc. state the frame rate and the bandwidth they are achieving (either cellular or wifi connection) so we can narrow down the problem.
1) Lack of proper ATI driver on all or some of the athena variants.
2) VGA screen taxing the processor too much (shouldn't be as the slingplayer application is still trying to display qVGA resolution, assuming 4 pixels displaying the same image is less strenuous on the processor than displaying 4 distinct images)
3) Some other reason such as splingplayer not optimized for the ATI chip?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated
I tried this last night and I am getting 10-15fps whether connected to my wi-fi network or via 3G and my vid is jerky as well. Disappointing but hopefully will get better... I am using the default settings (slingstream optimization and medium action).
EDIT: FWIW, the Axim x51v is VGA 640x480...
EDIT2: My bandwidth is 200-300kbps whether connected to wi-fi or 3G.
assuming you guys are using win media player to play the videos, you are probably running into the same issues I had trying to stream from ORB to my ameo, the fix was to use the windows mobile 5 (windows media video 9) codecs for windows media player ! simply unpack the attached files and copy into your windows folder then reboot.
apperntly there is an issue with the Windows media video 10 codecs supplied with win mobile 6 !
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assuming you guys are using win media player to play the videos, you are probably running into the same issues I had trying to stream from ORB to my ameo, the fix was to use the windows mobile 5 (windows media video 9) codecs for windows media player ! simply unpack the attached files and copy into your windows folder then reboot.
apperntly there is an issue with the Windows media video 10 codecs supplied with win mobile 6 !
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The slingplayer mobile application is self contained (no WMP involved) and plays live streaming video only...
same problem here
billu said:
1) Lack of proper ATI driver on all or some of the athena variants.
2) VGA screen taxing the processor too much (shouldn't be as the slingplayer application is still trying to display qVGA resolution, assuming 4 pixels displaying the same image is less strenuous on the processor than displaying 4 distinct images)
3) Some other reason such as splingplayer not optimized for the ATI chip?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated
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The reason is that SlingMobile is using DirectDraw. The DDraw API on WM is slooooow. Thats the reason players like PocketTV or TCPMP went out of their way to code driver support for GPUs
The X7501 def has the ATI Imageon drivers there (I pointed this out on another thread), but it doesnt matter much. DDRaw+ATI=slow. DDRaw+Intel 2700=not TOO bad (hence the X51V working)
Basically, every PPC ever made from the Axim X51V forward should have had the Intel 2700. That they didnt has crippled the platform when it comes to video. The Imageon has potential, but ATI seems very hard to work with and getting it optimized is NOT easy.
The Marvell may save this situation if devs can start to take full advantage of WMMX2. Early reports show that with straight DDRaw, the Marvell proc alone is STILL not up to Intel 2700 standards, but Id bet that with direct WMMX2 enhanced code, it would be.
you can increase the buffer, but you have to do it in the registry, once you change it you cant go back into settings and change anything without changing the buffer back to 4 seconds
hklm\software\sling media\slingplayer\player
precharge duration = 10000
the 10000 in milliseconds
Thanks for the comments.
So it seems that the only hope is if an update of the slingplayer software decides to use the ATI Imageon driver.
Just to clear something up, the Dell I used was a X51 (320 by 240) and NOT a X51V (which is 640 by 480)
Is it possible to get the slingplayer to use the ATI driver using a registry tweak??
I would assume if they had developed ATI support they'd expose it. It may be possible that there is some undocumented dedicated support for the Imageon, but I havent seen anything.
I have just got my slingbox this week and I liked the idea of been able to watch my sky+ recordings, but playback via 3g is watchable but only about 15 fps , there is no improvement using wifi? However my cctv camera works smooth and looks great- possibly becouse its a black and white camera?
As a previous poster said orb works very good playing back full size divx from my home pc via either wmp or tcpmp without problems over 3g? but orb requires the pc to be on all the time, which is why I got the slingbox.
I just hope someone with more skill and knowlage than myself can sort a solution
Sling has released a new version of their mobile player that uses GDI instead of DirectDraw. Has anyone tried this on their Athena to see if it improves performance?
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Sling has released a new version of their mobile player that uses GDI instead of DirectDraw. Has anyone tried this on their Athena to see if it improves performance?
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I tried GDI but the frame rate dropped off significantly.
There are 3 major problems with SlingPlayer on the Athena. As said before, it does not use the ATI video driver. But also the maximum supported resolution is only 320x240 and the maximum bit rate is only 600kbs. So it's never going to look as good as TCPMP for example.
The best setting to change to make SlingPlayer watchable is to specifically set the video bit rate to 600kbs. Unless this is done, the SlingPlayer never seems to use more than 300kbs and the result is very poor video. With 600kbs bit rate and 320x240 resolution, I get about 15fps on average. If I drop the resolution to 224x176 I get nearly 30fps.
My Slingbox video stream is 77kbs
I hope any body can help me with this issue.
I have my slingbox set in NY,USA, and I'm now in Bahrain my internet provider speed is 2mbs download/ 512 kbs, and the internet provider in NY is verizon at 6mbs/ 760kbs upload.
However, every time I start my sling box on my laptop (Dell D610), the video optimization start at 600-700 kbs and end up in 2 min in 77 kbs and stop there.
I don't know, if this is something has to do with the setup or what exactly...?
Can any body help me with that??
Thanks
Are you saying you have a problem using your slingbox on your Athena or your laptop? If your laptop then you are posting in the wrong place!
anyone figure out the optimal settings for our athena's to get buffering/playback more manageable?

WMP & Coreplayer on X1

Hi,
Got my Xperia X1 the other day, I have got Coreplayer Mobile as well as the WMP on the phone. I have copied the videos I took with my Nokia N95 to the memory card Ive got in the Xperia.
However when it comes to playing them WMP will play them but it stutters alot with the sound being ahead of the video. In coreplayer there is no video only sound.
Any of you guys got any suggestions to get the video playing smoothly. The videos are .mp4.
Thanks
Try to set in Videosettings QTv Display, here I get a picture and it works ok, not the promissed 30 fps but arount 20 fps with a HDTV Movie.
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Try to set in Videosettings QTv Display, here I get a picture and it works ok, not the promissed 30 fps but arount 20 fps with a HDTV Movie.
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I tried that. I changed to the DirectDraw option and it plays the James Bond Trailer no problem but the videos from my Nokia N95 still stutter alot
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I tried that. I changed to the DirectDraw option and it plays the James Bond Trailer no problem but the videos from my Nokia N95 still stutter alot
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Then I don't have any more ideas. Perhaps it'll help trying TCMP instead of Coreplayer?!
Found this on Coreplayers website:
CE/Windows Mobile/PocketPC/Smartphone
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- Does not support the Qualcomm MSM7200 QTv chipset (we only support the MSM7500)
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Is anyone running Coreplayer? Is there anything better?
I've tried to find a resolution/bitrate which gives me smooth video without stuttering and dropouts. I've tested on CorePlayer with DivX and native mp4 codecs.
With a resolution of 400x240, 25fps, 1100kBit/s I get a picture without dropouts and a benchmark around 105%.
If I go higher in resolution I start getting dropouts.
I've set the CorePlayer to Microdrive mode and doubled the size of the buffer to increase the speed when reading from the memory card.
I've tried to copy the clip to the phone memory, but with the above settings I see no difference.
My conclusion is that if you want a smooth picture, don't go above the mentioned resolution. It won't give you that crisp picture, but I get more annoyed when the film is stuttering than getting a HD resolution on a 3" display.
I have no problem seeing mp4 on the CorePlayer though. But if I uncheck the "TyTN II driver mode" in QTv Display settings, I get only sound, no picture, despite the MSM7200 chipset . Don't know if the Nokia's format differs from the one I have used (Cucusoft Ultimate DVD).
Is there anyone else who manages getting a higher picture quality without any dropped frames?
Got this from the Coreplayer forums:
'We are on the verge of the v1.3 bug fix release that addresses many of the current issues including those diamond users running WM 6.1...... however it does not address the QTV issues since there is nothing we can control there other then to express our dismay to both HTC and Qualcomm for not opening up the GPU.
Hey... we've been here before.... lets hope for a more open solution soon enough.'
I wonder what SE's position is on this? Apparently it's meant to have a decent GPU but what's the use if we can't use it? I know one or two people here have contacts with SE - anybody wish to find out?
Praying for hardware supported video playback...
but they said that X1 uses ATI GPU not Qualcomm!
Another lies from SE?
Hey guys, i know this is abit off topic, but has any of you guys had the problem were you install core player, then play a video, and then you exit and go back into it and you the the message "cannot validate the serial number/user ID"? i have uninstalled and reinstalled heaps of times, tried different serial numbers, but it happens all the time use it once, and then the message comes up when you go back into it.
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Hey guys, i know this is abit off topic, but has any of you guys had the problem were you install core player, then play a video, and then you exit and go back into it and you the the message "cannot validate the serial number/user ID"? i have uninstalled and reinstalled heaps of times, tried different serial numbers, but it happens all the time use it once, and then the message comes up when you go back into it.
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Why do you have multiple serial numbers?
Surely it's one Serial per IMEI?
im running coreplayer latest version, and i'm playing divX files direct from my coputr, no downsample full reselution, and with 30fps usibg qtv, it's awsome!
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im running coreplayer latest version, and i'm playing divX files direct from my coputr, no downsample full reselution, and with 30fps usibg qtv, it's awsome!
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for real ? 640x480 24FPS at 800kbs is really laggy for me when playing in CorePlayer using QTV Video Output.
nap007 said:
but they said that X1 uses ATI GPU not Qualcomm!
Another lies from SE?
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The ATI graphics chip is a part of the qualcomm chipset.
fards said:
The ATI graphics chip is a part of the qualcomm chipset.
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Says who, I haven't seen any info about it, any links please.
Of course the qualcomm chip has indeed 3D hardware acceleration but I don't know if it is ATI.
unbelieveable how unprofessional are they! 1st the RAM debate, and now this; not to mention that bad launching and availability.
It is rather disappointing. Even the fish panel is hardly super smooth, leading me to wonder if even that uses the GPU acceleration.
I really do hope SE allow and encourage developers to tap the GPU of the X1 otherwise its little better than all the other WM phones.
I have hope that someone with a reputation like SE will see the sense supporting the developers. The "write something for the panel" is not good enough. The radio is a panel and as the panel is like the home screen, anything on it is turned off when I navigate away from it including the radio.
I really do hope they do not turn out to be as bad as networks like T-Mobile which can't be bothered to support HTC rebranded phones even if its got their name stuck on them.
after using it for 3 days it is now clear that the panels just use low res screenshots and no live data. They dont even update them, i live in germany and when accessing panels the screenshot says New York etc until it finally updates.
So for the panels just being low res screenshots (that must be only some KBs per panel) the performance is horrible and laggy. Cant believe they use any form of hardware acceleration for that either.
toxical said:
for real ? 640x480 24FPS at 800kbs is really laggy for me when playing in CorePlayer using QTV Video Output.
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If the video is encoded in H.264 it's going to be lagging full on. Half of the frame will get dropped. Playing 720x400 24FPS at 1Mbps encoded with XviD on the other hand is smooth and not a single frame is dropped. I've tested this with TP.
Does anyone know how to change the default streaming video player to Coreplayer?
It's very annoying when browsing and the Streaming Player kicks in rather than Coreplayer. I've associated 3gp, mpeg4, etc. with CP but doesn't seem to make any difference.

CPU frequency monitoring program

It seems that Now 1.48 rom become slower in program execution than 1.43.
Can you advice me some cpu frequency monitoring softtware ?
i have made a tcpmp benchmark with the a sample video. with 1.43 i had 196% playback performance and now with the untouched 1.48 rom its only 93% with same settings and video.
But after i installed the Chainfire Video driver, I get a performance up to 223%.It seems that HTC had lowers the performance, maybe for a longer battery life.
are CF's video driver the same as his d3d/ogl driver? will installing the driver decrease the battery life?
dontcryjustfly said:
i have made a tcpmp benchmark with the a sample video. with 1.43 i had 196% playback performance and now with the untouched 1.48 rom its only 93% with same settings and video.
But after i installed the Chainfire Video driver, I get a performance up to 223%.It seems that HTC had lowers the performance, maybe for a longer battery life.
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What video output mode set in tcpmp [ DirectDraw, GDI, RawFrameBuffer ] ?
my guess is they lowered the cpu speed to increase batterylife as someone else also said above.
If you think about it, why use 1ghz to play at 200% when you may be able to use 500mhz for twice as long and while you will deliver 100%, the visual differnece will be virtually nothing
Above paragraph is hyperthetical by way!
p-kirill said:
What video output mode set in tcpmp [ DirectDraw, GDI, RawFrameBuffer ] ?
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GDI or RawFrameBuffer (a little bit faster than GDI)
jamuk2004 said:
If you think about it, why use 1ghz to play at 200% when you may be able to use 500mhz for twice as long and while you will deliver 100%, the visual differnece will be virtually nothing
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but this benchmark should show the maximum Performance. I notice that some other apps, like opera rendering webpages, also runs slower.
In TCPMP, if you go to Options--->Settings, the General page shows clock speed. I'm not sure how accurate it is but on my Kaiser it is within 50mhz of the actual clock speed (400Mhz).
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VidMan said:
In TCPMP, if you go to Options--->Settings, the General page shows clock speed. I'm not sure how accurate it is but on my Kaiser it is within 50mhz of the actual clock speed (400Mhz).
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It would be really nice being able to control che CPU clock. After a restart TCPMP says 1 Ghz and it is fast. After a while it goes down to 500 Mhz and TCPMP start to stutter a bit.

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