Hi, I am new to this forum and am having a few problems with the Opera browser that comes pre-installed on the Touch HD (9,5 Build 2682).
I have tried searching the forum but can not find any reference to the problem I am having.
Quite often the browser will not load any page. The green progress bar at the bottom starts to move then just sits there and the page is not loaded. (Every other data application will work so its not a data connection problem)
If I soft reset it will browse ok again.
Another problem is that when I connect via wifi, the browser seems to not use the wifi connection. When I search on Google for my ip address it returns a 212 address which belongs to Vodafone (my network). If I then open IE and do the same I get the correct IP of my dsl. I have tried this on a number of wifi points. This problem also shows up when I browse to the BBC iplayer web site as it will display “please connect via wifi” when the wifi is connected.
I have on a few random occasions streamed the iplayer material ok so, I assume it was then connected to the wifi ok, but most of the time it will say “please connect to wifi”
I tried installing the latest Opera from their web site (9.51b2). It shows up in the programs folder as Opera 9.5 Beta. This seemed to work ok on both GPRS and wifi, the first time I run it, but then after running the factory installed version it does the same thing and some times crashes and will no rerun until after a soft reset.
It is possible that having both versions is causing problems but I don’t see any way of removing the pre installed version as it does not show up in the “installed programs” list?
Anybody else get these problems?
Thanks
Regards
Jason
Further to the above, I have found that the only way to get the Opera browser to definately use the wifi is to turn the radio part of the phone off so there is no GPRS data connection.
If I just turn the wifi on the browser almost always ignores it and still connects via the GPRS data connection, then when I turn the wifi off again the browser will then sometimes fail to load any page until a soft reset.
I do not have any of these problems with I.E or Opera Mini but they are no way as good as the full Opera 9.5
Is anybody else having these problems with Opera or is it just me?
(P.S a colleague of mine has just installed the latest Opera version from their website on an old Vario and it did the same thing with wifi connected, ignored it and connected via the GPRS data connection. Does Opera have a big problem here?)
I have no problems with wifi access (it works ok), but I have experienced that Opera hangs while loading over the data connection (regardless G,E,3G and HSDPA, it actually doesn't load anything).
The trick is when it happens to go to the opera menu (the one in the lower right corner with Settings, Downloads, Page info etc...) and choose Exit. You will need to confirm that action. Start Opera again and voila it works. So no soft resets anymore. And it has no connection with the Opera config - I tried default and my settings for numerous things in config and it still hangs.
IE works fine anytime, any connection - so that eliminates windows or data connection problems.
I use WkTask and close Opera by its little x - perhaps sometimes it doesn't close Opera properly after the successful surfing and on the next run opera hangs while loading. I think that before WKtask I didn't experience such problems. I haven't tested it without WKtask once I noticed this hang so I may be wrong about the good old WKtask. Perhaps Opera needs to be closed through its Exit function?
I hope this trick works for you - cheers!
Opera 9.5 versions thread
To easily find all opera 9.5 versions in a single place go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
So you can choose the one that fits you
Thanks for the replies. I have sorted this problem now by flashing the rom with Duttys HD v1.9b XTREME.
This rom comes with opera version is 9.5 build 15613 which so far works as it should, uses wifi when its available and GPRS when its not. It also to date has not “got stuck” and failed to load a page (obviously when wifi or gprs is available)
(In fact the whole phone now works better with this rom but there are numerous threads already about this and how to flash!!)
Looks like build 2682 defiantly has a bug to me.
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Another problem is that when I connect via wifi, the browser seems to not use the wifi connection. When I search on Google for my ip address it returns a 212 address which belongs to Vodafone (my network). If I then open IE and do the same I get the correct IP of my dsl. I have tried this on a number of wifi points. This problem also shows up when I browse to the BBC iplayer web site as it will display “please connect via wifi” when the wifi is connected.
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I think i've found the solution! Im using build 15613 so i don't know if this will work for the version that comes pre-installed. If it doesn't it's not hard to find build 15613.
In the TouchFLO interface:
Home / Settings / Communications / Settings / Wireless LAN / Power Mode tab / move slider to far left ( Best Performance )
I've tested it a few time and now opera uses wifi whenever it's available.
wifi works on some browser not with others
Hi All , I have a similar problem but mine is that when I use Opera browser it would use my wifi connection but if I use.. say Iris or Skyfire it uses my 3g data connection even though the wifi is still on. this is frustrating as data connection is expensive for me and I usually the wifi hotspots to do my surfing when I'm outdoors
any advice on how I can configure all browser to use wifi when available and only use data connection when its not available ... pls point me in the right direction on this, Im using stock ROM for HTC HD.
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Hi All
Sorry if this is a duplicate thread, I searched but coudln't find anything.
My PiE works fine only under WiFi, but never seems to want to work over my mobile data connection.
My BBConnect, and HTC Home Weather can establish and use the connection no problems, but not with PiE.
Any suggestions on how I can fix this up
Thank you!
...actually pie isn't working at all even over WiFi.
I click on any link, it says connecting then it stops...
i would
1 check the setting in connection advanced to see if it was set to use the right connection to access the internet
2 try another browser then pie (it being the worst browser on the planet could be an issue)
3½ if special network settings for gateway and or dns was set i would remove them or change them to the connect ones
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i would
1 check the setting in connection advanced to see if it was set to use the right connection to access the internet
2 try another browser then pie (it being the worst browser on the planet could be an issue)
3½ if special network settings for gateway and or dns was set i would remove them or change them to the connect ones
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My other programs (BBConnect, HTC Weather) have no problems getting on.
Just PIE (was set for Rogers Internet) I also tried My Blackberry and HTC Home still updates, but not PIE....
I thought I would bump this.
I gave up and did a re-install. Everything was fine for a bit, and its back again.
All I have installed is SyncML Client, VJDevice Lock, Today Agenda, voice command BBConnect.
Its ONLY IE that won't work. I would really appreciate some help with this one!
So it is the blackberry software that is doing it. I think it is forcing you to use that, rather than the regular data connection.
If anyone can help me manage this, I would appreciate it.
Thank you!
I have a similar browser related problem...
Everything works on 3G, GPRS, WiFi, etc... EXCEPT PIE only does not work with WiFi, same symptoms you are receiving. I have to turn off the WiFi to get PIE to work. With WiFi on, email and all other connectivity programs can stilll get data from the web.
There is something here where PIE settings are somehow slightly different than the WiFi connection....
Anyone have any ideas? The fix for me would also fix the same issue for you...
...and a follow up to the issue, if I wanted to change the default browser in WM6 to NetFront of Opera, how would I go about doing that?
Hi, in the last days I try without success to navigate with my P3600 connected to a wi-fi network. A friend of mine have a nokia with wi-fi ability, when activate the wi-fi search it found the network (unprotected) and navigate normally with the browser preinstalled. The connection on my trinity is normally estabilished, but when I launch IE no website is accessible. In wi-fi network cards settings I found two options, The Internet and Work, but in the Connection, Advanced Options, I can choose between five options (Impostazioni ufficio, Impostazioni Internet, Vodafone Web GPRS, Vodafone Wap GPRS and Vodafone MMS GPRS) but The Internet and Work are not present. Is possible that this is the cause of the problem?
I try also to install Opera Mini, in MIDlet Manager I can choose every settings (also The Internet and Work) but I can't navigate the web.
Please, help me to find a solution, my friend say that nokia is better than htc..
same to mine... only few hotspot can be used (mcdonald`s). it recognizes the network, connects to it but the browser doesn`t open any page.
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same to mine... only few hotspot can be used (mcdonald`s). it recognizes the network, connects to it but the browser doesn`t open any page.
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I've been using my device to navigate the Internet at work, at home, abroad, with secured and unsecured Wireless Networks, so I guess it is a matter of settings or OS (ROM).
I can't navigate on any hotspot, it seems that I loose some config.. please, can you post how to config connection and wi-fi ?
I tried today to stop 3G and select GSM only - no use... I also tried to use opera instead of IE - no use... Probably it will work with a new firmware version, but for the moment I am satisfied with or without wi-fi.
I think that a reset hardware is the possible solution..
You could both try a hard reset and after that, if all fails, try a different Radio version.
It is the first time for a reset hw on my P3600, what is the exact procedure to follow? How to backup and restore my data (contacts, sms, settings, etc..)?
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It is the first time for a reset hw on my P3600, what is the exact procedure to follow? How to backup and restore my data (contacts, sms, settings, etc..)?
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Read the Wiki and use search.
I have the same problem, the connection wifi lan is ok, but Explorer don’t find the web page. My workmate whit a ASUS have not problem.
I tried put in the Explorer the IP directions pages, and configure DNS in the PDA. Also tried with ROMs: Vodafone Windows Movile 5.0, HTC WM 5.0 and Faman 4.2, and several radios.
Any idea? Thanks in advance.
Opera is ignoring my wifi connection in favour of my 3G connection. If I have my data connection and wifi both enabled then other apps (e.g. google maps) use the wifi by default (as "My ISP" is set as the default connection). Opera however stubbornly sticks with 3G.
Are there any settings that I may have overlooked.
I don't want to turn off my data connection because I use push email with Exchange and this won't work with the data connection turned off. I just want Opera to use the wifi if it is there and 3G if not. I'm sure this used to work in the past but doesn't any more.
Any pointers gratefully received as I'm in danger of busting my 500Mb download limit on Vodafone (and that soon gets expensive!)
Hi I have the same problem, have youalready solved it,pls?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3396033&posted=1#post3396033
I've had the same problem. I tried using Opera 9.5 build 15613, browsed using HSDPA then exited opera, turned wifi on and opened opera and it used the wifi. Then i exited, turned wifi on and browsed using HSDPA for a while. Then turned that off and tried using wifi again and it stuck with the HSDPA so it looks like build 15613 doesn't fix the issue.
I think i've found the solution! Im using build 15613 so i don't know if this will work for the version that comes pre-installed. If it doesn't it's not hard to find build 15613.
In the TouchFLO interface:
Home / Settings / Communications / Settings / Wireless LAN / Power Mode tab / move slider to far left ( Best Performance )
I've tested it a few time and now opera uses wifi whenever it's available.
I have an unlocked HD2 with Vodafone Internet access.
As long as I use my phone standalone I can browse the Web just fine.
But as soon as I activate WiFi Router or try to establish a BT PAN with my PC, my GPRS Internet goes down and thus my PC can't get onto the Internet eitherm.
Anyone can help with this one?
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so re enable gprs connection in the data manager, then
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so re enable gprs connection in the data manager, then[/QUOTE
But it is enabled (all the time). Its just that any browser complains that it can't find the server - until I break the connection to the PC and then it all works again.
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Hi,
Could it be that the phone is preventing this as network operators charge extra for using the phone as a modem (tethering)?
I've not got my phone yet but I'm guessing there will be something to prevent you doing this!
Cheers,
Gavin
Gavinbat said:
Hi,
Could it be that the phone is preventing this as network operators charge extra for using the phone as a modem (tethering)?
I've not got my phone yet but I'm guessing there will be something to prevent you doing this!
Cheers,
Gavin
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You are probably right. I tested the router and it works perfectly, so it's not a hardware or a software problem.
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You are probably right. I tested the router and it works perfectly, so it's not a hardware or a software problem.
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Are you folks saying that the phone service provider can actually "sense" if my phone is in "modem mode" and as a result of that drop the Internet connection?
Because I found that the same thing happens if I connect the phone via USB cable to a PC and activate "Internet Sharing via USB".
Its a real pain in the rear, because many web pages just won't load right w/o areal PC browser.
Opera Mobile truly sucks as soon as you have more than 3 tabs open, and Fennec doesn't even display my soft keyboard.
NetFront sometimes works and then it doesn't and then it works again.
And the dreaded Internet Explorer often simply TERMINATES w/o any reason as soon as I switch to another application. Swuuush and its gone and I have to start from scratch again and just keep watching and watching that progress bar crawl on.
I either need a REAL web browser (don't think there is one for Windows Mobile) or to find a way how to activate the router function w/o loosing my Internet connection in the process.
Is your connection dropped as soon as you connect your HD2 to your PC or after you send a first request from the PC browser?
I don't see how your provider could "sense" ,as you said, that your phone is in modem mode (unless they cooked a ROM that does it )
But, when your browser sends a request, along with the page you are requesting, it sends its "user agent" (it identifies itself as IE, Firefox, Opera or whatever browser you're using on your PC) This can be trapped by your provider, who, in turn, could decide to drop the connection, I guess.
If it's what's happening, a possible workaround would be to install on your PC a plugin that will change the "user agent" and impersonate a phone.
pat12 said:
Is your connection dropped as soon as you connect your HD2 to your PC or after you send a first request from the PC browser?
I don't see how your provider could "sense" ,as you said, that your phone is in modem mode (unless they cooked a ROM that does it )
But, when your browser sends a request, along with the page you are requesting, it sends its "user agent" (it identifies itself as IE, Firefox, Opera or whatever browser you're using on your PC) This can be trapped by your provider, who, in turn, could decide to drop the connection, I guess.
If it's what's happening, a possible workaround would be to install on your PC a plugin that will change the "user agent" and impersonate a phone.
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The connection goes stone dead as soon as the HD2 has established a (network) connection with the PC, be it via USB, Bluetooth or WiFi.
It happens even when I specifically choose the "Share Internet (use Phone as Modem)" setting.
And as soon as I break the connection with my PC, I can browse the web on the phone again.
For me this is real problem, as there are many web site I need to visit which are just to complex to view on the HD2.
I have a similar problem. When I use my HD 2 as a router and connect my laptop to it, the internet connection sucks hard. Videos on YouTube are loading for ages, web pages are loading very long and eventually I get a connection timeout or a server not found message. Then after some minutes it just works fine again and pages are loading very fast, but only for a brief moment.
I am sure that this is not a provider (I got o2) problem, cause when I put my sim card in my old nokia n95 and use it as a router (I use joikuspot for this), everything works like a charm! I get full HDSPA, everything is loading very fast without any disconnects or something like that. So it has to be a hardware problem or a winmo problem I guess!
This is really annoying!
pharao said:
The connection goes stone dead as soon as the HD2 has established a (network) connection with the PC, be it via USB, Bluetooth or WiFi.
It happens even when I specifically choose the "Share Internet (use Phone as Modem)" setting.
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I would expect that to happen, because using the phone as a modem the phone will wait for the computer to issue the dial command.
using the wifirouter the phone instigates the dial so the computer just gets handed the connection.
Hello,
There is a problem with my Touch Diamond 2 phone and it is about the connection with WiFi. I recently updated the rom to manilla 2.5 because HTC has made a rom update on their site for us as users for free so I decided to update it. But now I have a problem that I haven't had before and that is that if I connect to wifi and enter the passkey it is all right connected, but when I open the opera internet browser or just want to update the weather in the HTC menu it says that it has no connection or I get a red page with some error information like 'Can't connect to server..'. It do show the 2 arrows that means that it has connection. It also has a IP address in the settings but still no connection. If I connect to normal 3G or HSDPA network it has fast internet and works fine (but it costs money of my mobile subscription of course... )
If anyone could help me I would appreciate that much!
btw: I googled already but the posts on forums that I could find are like half so there is no solution brought because people are giving no answer. I hope that you guys could help me out with this
Thanks!
The new roms that i have tried have not had the WIFI Auto On feature. to install this feature ack again install this cab it works just like the old wm6.5 ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579965
This cab allows the WIFI to auto start whenever you open Opera or check e-mail etc.....