Hello, everybody
When I press and hold down the "hang up" key, my phone goes in lock mode. That's great. But is there someway to get the phone to do this automaticly? For example after 30 sec or so. I've not found any solutions here in this forum.
I know there is some 3rd part program that can fix this, but I have read that there is some issues with these programs, so I really hope that I can manage to do this without any 3rd part programs.
I will be very happy if someone could help me with this issue
(I'm terribly sorry for my bad english)
Go to Start > Settings > tab Advanced.
There, just set the options you want. Basicly, when it turns off the display at the times you set, the phone also locks.
(actually, it only locks when the 2nd option is activated, which is something like "Turn off device when not used for...". It's not really turned Off, the Display just goes off, and the phone gets locked).
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Go to Start > Settings > tab Advanced.
There, just set the options you want. Basicly, when it turns off the display at the times you set, the phone also locks.
(actually, it only locks when the 2nd option is activated, which is something like "Turn off device when not used for...". It's not really turned Off, the Display just goes off, and the phone gets locked).
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Thanks for quick answer.
Actually there is no tab Advanced when I go to Settings. I have three tabs in Settings, it's in norwegian, but I can try to transelate it to english: Personal - System - Connections. I can't find any of the options you mentioned in your post.
I also like to be more precise with my problem: My display turnes of after some sec, but that not the same as the key lock-function I want. When I press and hold my "hang up"- key I have to press "Unlock" in the down right corner and then I have to confirm it in the middle of the screen afterwards to unlock it. I want my phone to automatically lock after some time not only turn of the screen.
When I have my phone in the pocket I often accidentaly turn on the screen with the power button and the phone starts to call someone. That won't happen with the key lock activated.
Hmm, well, for me, when the Screen turns Off, it Auto-locks the phone. So what you want. This is with the Default HTC Rom.
I wrote the location wrong, it is:
Start > Settings > tab System > Energy > tab Advanced.
Edit 2: Ok, now I realised why this is working for me. I used HD Tweak to change something.
With what I did, I have *exactly* what you want: Device goes off after x seconds, and then locks.
1) I used HD Tweak (from this forum)
2) There go to: 4) Lock > 4.1 AutoLock
3) Turn that on.
4) Go back to this: Start > Settings > tab System > Energy > tab Advanced.
5) There turn OFF the 1st Option (which dims it to half screen brightness, but it's buggy with the option I mentioned at 2), HD Tweak Warns for it. So by turning off this option, you work around that bug)
6) Turn on the 2nd Option (Turn off Device after X time) (which actually means turn off Screen...)
Now, what this does in my case is:
1) After 1 Minute my Screen goess Off because of the setting under Start > Settings > tab System > Energy > tab Advanced.
2) Because of the HD Tweak, it locks the keypad.
So thats what you want.
Thank you very much, Seven_PRX! Your instructions worked perfectly, and just the way I wanted
stone1971 said:
Thank you very much, Seven_PRX! Your instructions worked perfectly, and just the way I wanted
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With this solution, I had problem when the screen dims : the screen locks itself too. So, I needed to unlock it, but the screen doesn't light up no more. I had to switch my phone ON then OFF to have the full brightness back. But maybe it was a bug with my install...
But now, I use VJDeviceLock with its "VJDeviceLockInstall" that lock the phone when I switch it ON. If you have the problem I had, it might be the solution
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With this solution, I had problem when the screen dims : the screen locks itself too. So, I needed to unlock it, but the screen doesn't light up no more. I had to switch my phone ON then OFF to have the full brightness back. But maybe it was a bug with my install...
But now, I use VJDeviceLock with its "VJDeviceLockInstall" that lock the phone when I switch it ON. If you have the problem I had, it might be the solution
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Seven_PRX wrote:
There turn OFF the 1st Option (which dims it to half screen brightness, but it's buggy with the option I mentioned at 2), HD Tweak Warns for it. So by turning off this option, you work around that bug)
That's why I don't have this problem you mentioned
Yep, I saw that just after posting my comment
But I like to have the light to dim to warn me that the screen is going off... So I thought I could give you another way to have an "autolock" function
Btw, a quick way to unlock your phone & turn the screen on is simply by taking out your stylus (this unlocks the phone & turns the display on). It's quicker than pressing the On button and then Pressing "unlock" twice.
Related
Hi all, if you try the following...
1. Click 'Device unlocked' on the Today screen so it changes to 'Device locked'
2. Turn device off / wait for it to go to sleep
3. Turn device on / wait for something to wake it up
...the device has unlocked itself, correct or is it just my Xda Mini S?
So how are we supposed to lock the device properly from accidentaly screen taps -- a problem I keep encountering?
Also, is there any way to add a timeout to the device lock, so if the screen isn't tapped for 5 mins, it automatically locks (assuming we actually make the lock feature work in the first place!).
My K-JAM used to do this all the time.
I never actually worked out the exact cause, i have a feeling it may have been caused by software i was testing when i 1st recieved the k-jam.
It stopped doing it altogether after a recent hard reset.
Sorry i wasnt more help.
Cheers
Chris
the device lock wasn't made with these systems in mind... it's intended for smartphone devices which don't have a 'suspend' state - let alone a button you can push to put it into, and bring it out of, that state.
If you want a free, proper locker, put the following in your today-screen-app-launcher of choice:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14621
This'll 'lock' even the on/off button (immediately 'locks' again if you try to turn it back on, or shut it off (by holding down the on/off button - as you need to confirm by dialog)).
On the down side, it'll also turn your display off.
To unlock, on the Wizard, you need to press the Messaging (top-left, front side) button and the Voice Dial/Memo (top-right, side) button at the same time.
That lock/unlock feature on the Today screen is pretty crappy actually. I locked my keys religiously. And half the time, I would pull my phone out and it was on a webpage or on my email... and I never opened them.
I'm hoping they fix this...
-Mc
Well it's ridiculous that O2 etc. keep the function enabled by default on the Today screen of their units, if the feature is for Smartphones only! But then, there's a lot of things O2 don't understand about the world but don't get me started on that.
Warning! Do not use Screenlock!
Warning: I think this program just killed my Wizard. Don't install unless you know the risks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=212261#212261
People, please don't recommend software on here that is not tried and tested on WM5.0.
On my Qtek 9100 it works. The only button that doesn't lock is the power button. Accidental tap of the power button will turn the screen on. You cannot even press and hold to power off when locked. When phone comes back on it stays locked.
I have been using this application for a while now - but I think the warning for installing sofware goes for all software. Who is to say that SPB doesn't install something that 'phones home'? Or that Mort Script doesn't cause irreperable harm to the registry stack when using its registry functions?
I've had no problems with it, but I guess I'll continue in your other thread.
I also can't just quickly tap the on/off button. Sure, it goes on - but it then immediately goes off again as well.
Thanks. What happens if the device crashes or you soft reset whilst the screen is locked? Does it reboot unlocked with the screen on? I wondered if mine had somehow locked completely, so the screen is off when it reboots ...but that wouldn't explain no LEDs working either :?
I don't know about crashes but, with some reluctance - admittedly, I tried the soft-reset (pin button at the right) while the screen [w]as locked...
...the device switched off, switched back on, booted up, and displayed my Personal Info screen.
So... no problem there, sorry :/
Well I have my replacement Mini S now. Any other programs than ScreenLock that do this? I'm sure I found once, but I can't find it any more :?
I couldnt get screenlock to work on the ppc6700, but mortsaver worked just fine, you might want to try that.
I'm perhaps misreading this, but the device locking seems to work ok for me on my XDA Mini S. Once I've locked the Mini S the only way I can use it again is to unlock it - if I touch the power button or let it go standby itself, when I touch the power button to wake it up, it remains locked. Also, if I hold down the power button for five seconds or more the Mini S will not give me the option to switch off entirely.
John
Hi John,
Do you have a Device Password setup? ( Start > Settings > Personal > Password > [x] Prompt if device unused for... )
I find that when
1. Device Password is enabled
2. you lock the device
3. you press the device on/off button (goes to standby)
4. you press the device on/off button again (goes back on), the device is unlocked.
When Device Password is disabled, and you then follow steps 2-4, the device remains locked
In my experience this is true [it sort of makes some sense you can't type in your password with the device/screen locked].
it would make sense if...
A. the password dialog would actually pop up (note that if you turn the device off/on manually, before the password prompt timeout, the password dialog does not show up)
and
B. they would first show the unlock screen and -then- the password prompt
The password prompt facility effectively overriding the unlock screen is just bad software design.
well put zeboxx... i wanted to say something in those lines but couldn't articulate them properly [ended up with a it sort of makes some sense jibe...]
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Hi John,
Do you have a Device Password setup? ( Start > Settings > Personal > Password > [x] Prompt if device unused for... )
I find that when
1. Device Password is enabled
2. you lock the device
3. you press the device on/off button (goes to standby)
4. you press the device on/off button again (goes back on), the device is unlocked.
When Device Password is disabled, and you then follow steps 2-4, the device remains locked
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Nope, I don't have a device password enabled which explains it.
John
ive been very happy with my Touch Dual, but there is one thing that bugs me loads! If im running a program, and i turn of the screen (press the power button), when i turn it back on, im taken back to the home screen. This is really annoying! I was testing pointUi, which proved pointless, as whenever I turned on the screen again, i was taken back to the standard HTC Home Screen.
Is there a setting or something for this ive missed?
Cheers!
sorry i dont really know much but you can just go on to the running programs list and open it quite quickly
i assume you just wanted it for coming straight on to the program but im not sure
in settings->today->items
there is a checkbox named
Today timeout with a dropdownbox which set
the timeout time
you could try to uncheck the checkbox and see
if it still does it
another thing that results in the same effect:
the device lock unter settings.
if its activated (doesn't matter what time is set), waking up the device brings yout to home.
Rudegar said:
in settings->today->items
there is a checkbox named
Today timeout with a dropdownbox which set
the timeout time
you could try to uncheck the checkbox and see
if it still does it
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i kind of have the same problem. but this brings me to another question. what does that checkbox do? minimum one hour timeout?!
anyway. i am using a kaiser, and when the device goes out of "standby" (pressing the powerbutton) im brought back to the today-screen.
but as of the previos post. this does not happen when the device locks after 5 minutes and i type in my simple pin. if the device locks i am brought back where i left it... (i.e. gsplayer)
well one would asume that unchecking the checkbox would disable the return to today screen
and the dropdownbox beside it's content would only be enabled if the checkbox was checked
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
Fallen Spartan said:
Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.
I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.
I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.
Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?
For some reason my screen just dims instead of turning off when I dont use the phone. If I press the hang up button it goes off like normal but if I just set it down it dims and stays on, draining my battery... Has anyone else experienced this?
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For some reason my screen just dims instead of turning off when I dont use the phone. If I press the hang up button it goes off like normal but if I just set it down it dims and stays on, draining my battery... Has anyone else experienced this?
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I take it you've already checked your backlight settings in Settings, Power ?
Yes and I have done a soft reset as well. I'm not really a "phone guy" so I hope this is something easy to fix....
Hello,
The way I have my device setup to get round this problem is this:
Go to Settings>Sound&Display> then scroll down until you see Display then click on Backlight.
On the page that appears, scroll down to "On Battery Power". Here put a tick in the box "Dim Backlight..." and set the time you want to allow before this function kicks in (mine is set at 2 mins).
Next, move down to "Turn off Device..", put a tick in here, and then set how long you want the device to stay on for before it goes off (mine is set at 3 mins).
You can use whatever time settings you feel comfortable with. Please note that it is the setting for "Turn Device Off..." that will blank your screen for you. The other setting simply dims it and leaves it running, as you have said before.
If battery performance is an issue for you, take the tick off "Automatically adjust backlight" and put in your own settings. So here, for example, I have my backlight on battery permanently set at 30% and on External Power, 60%.
The screen is so big you get blinded at anything above 60% (well at least I do).
Hope this helps.
WB
screen not turning off...during call via BT-headset
Hi guys!
My screen does not turn off even during phone call via Bluetooth-headset.
Any ideas how to fix it?
Thanks!
anyone?
Hi, my typical procedure before putting the phone in the pocket is to hold right soft button to lock the screen and to switch off the screen with the power button. I wonder if there is a way to do it at once. You press the power button and screen goes off locked?
Thanks.s.
Install AutolockScreen 1.7 (I'm at work so don't have the cab with me, but if you search this site you'll find it. Install the cab and then go to Start\Settings\System\SmartLock and tick Suspend lock.
LockDevice works well...
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/09...k-the-windows-mobile-screen-after-wakeup.html
Do either of these lock screen apps consume a lot of power?
I understand they have also been created with power saving feaures but what do they run like in a coarse of a day for instance, do they drain the battery quickly?
Thanks.
HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off
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HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off
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It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.
Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.
rpimps said:
Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.
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Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.
ClydeB1 said:
It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.
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My phone is set to quite dim anyway in Power settings so this doesn't affect me.......hence why I forgot about it
I've attached the cab which ClydeB1 was talking about, i.e. SmartLock 1.7
Mastoid said:
Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.
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What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
rpimps said:
What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)
rpimps said:
What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)
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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock
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True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock
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Was using your answer and expanding on it for explaining to rpimps
ClydeB1 said:
Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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Oh ok thanks for the info. Mine does unlock when I get a call/sms but I text a lot so I prefer it to do that, otherwise I'd be wasting a lot of time unlocking it every time I got a message.
Thanks for the hint ClydeB1 and thanks for the cab Fallen Spartan.
I tried SL 1.7 and there are three things, which I do not really like.
1. The phone returns to the very same screen where it was switched off. Some may consider it a pre. I prefer to see the clock when I switch it on.
2. The screen blink once when the phone is switchd on. I find it a bit irritating.
3. I do not see how I can uninstall it.
So, I wonder if you can undim the screen in HD Tweak by touching it or you need to do something extra?
You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.
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You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.
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The way I had activated the lock was by pressing and keeping pressure on the end call softkey, after a few seconds it vibrates and activates the lock. It comes on automatically when you put the screen off or restart the phone.
Regards.
Auto-lock screen
I'm running CLEAN ROM (B version) with SPB Mobile Shell.
Considering I don't want any superficial apps installed on my HD, I used HD Tweak and turned autolock on.
To get over the "background light not undimming after locking" problem, I initially unchecked "Automatically adjust backlight" under Settings > System > Power > Backlight and set at 100%. I also set the "Dim backlight on Device" when on battery power to the same time as "Turn off device if not used for". In my case that was 1 minute. I tested and this worked fine.
I then went back in and checked the "Automatically adjust backlight" checkbox.
I also performed the wake up with volume button reg edit making it easier to wake up device.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DefaultKeyLock"= 0
UPDATE:
Just tested again and I realised if you wake up device but don't unlock. The screen will automatically dim. Unfortunately if you unlock immediately after, the dim screen issue rears it's ugly head again. The only workaround at this point is to completely disable dim backlight.