the X1 has teh worst shell (case) i've ever seen - XPERIA X1 General

i expected the metal case to be far moreresistent to crashes and accidently drops but it looks like. it totaly isnt.
i droped it 3 times now (horay for beeing drunken) and EVERY FRECKIN TIME i had another crack.
1. time, a little carck near teh camera. thiner as a hair an barely seeable.
2. under the Volume button
3. a part of the plasic case inside the phone. now my battery cover doesnt fit that good anymore and jumps off quite easy
SE ... WTF did u (or HTC) produce here? i cant count how many times i dropped my Nokia's, the K800i and every other freackin cellphone i had before. i also had a PDA before which looked like its going to fall apart if i just touch it. dopped it more times than all my phones together and that thing didnt want to die.
dam ... i realy hope the X2 is going to be better and more resistent to shocks

What did you expect from a phone made from metal? Metal cases are more shiny and look better but the pavement is not their best friend! Metal doesn't necessarily mean increased resistance, plastic is a lot more flexible and resistant to drops.
Sony Ericsson or any manufacturer do not design phones with in mind that their user would have a tendency to drop them frequently. Had that been the case we would all end up having baby-proofed phones

Lol
I think the Idea is not to drop it. This is a piece of precision engineering.
I have dropped every one of my phonesbefore now, from every N series phone (my N95 got it worst) to the iPhone. And all came out fine, but this phone I made sure to protect because I know I drop them so often.
I put a crystal case on it because I'm willing to sacrifice the looks for now until it becomes "just another phone" then i'll take it off and risk it.
Oh, and do as I do, carry several phones, I take a 6230(?) when I think I'm going to be a little "wobbly". Backlights don't work anymore, external speaker broken, vibrate motor wobbles everywhere and the keypad backlights dont work, but atleast when i drop or crush it it keeps going, and I don't care if I break it, cause it's my ex-girlfriends

um, seeing the type of user you are, why get an xperia?
better get one of this and drop them as much as you want:
http://www.rugged-systems.com/c/HandHelds.htm

i dont think i will be interested in X2..
like you said the X1 cant take even the smalles hit, tbh it cant even take normal usage without cracking in diffrent places.
i had 2 SE phones before the X1 and they were both ****, one more than the other.
the W760i walkman phone with built in GPS sucked more than any other phone ive touched, it restarted itself a lot, sound was lagging (when listening to music) sometimes it just froze and i had to take the battery out to restart it, the gps froze as well.. and really! i rather have no gps than one i cant trust.
and last but not least, the case fell apart on me after 5 weeks of being mostly in my pocket attached to BT headphones.. i went to the store and got another one. (i just wouldnt quit on SE for some reason)
the W902i i had for one week and then it froze and i just got fed up and returned it to the store and got a samsung touchwiz, THAT was a good phone, but i want more posibility to config and customize my phone thats why i sold that one, but it felt very solid in hand and never restarted or anything like that...
my xperia had cracks in the case wich has been repaired but i have gotten new cracks in other places now as well, but the "inside" of the phone i love!
(but there are other phones with WM inside and hopefully a better casing, i will get me one of those in the future)

if you manage to find a phone doesnt crack when you drop on to the pavement on table height, let me know

mkouk said:
What did you expect from a phone made from metal? Metal cases are more shiny and look better but the pavement is not their best friend! Metal doesn't necessarily mean increased resistance, plastic is a lot more flexible and resistant to drops.
Sony Ericsson or any manufacturer do not design phones with in mind that their user would have a tendency to drop them frequently. Had that been the case we would all end up having baby-proofed phones
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Nokia carry out extensive drop tests

theclueless said:
if you manage to find a phone doesnt crack when you drop on to the pavement on table height, let me know
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well go for the k800i then
i droped it a complete floorlevel (about 5 meters) and it smacked down on a stone floor. all it had was a ditch in a corner and thats it.
Sony Ericsson or any manufacturer do not design phones with in mind that their user would have a tendency to drop them frequently. Had that been the case we would all end up having baby-proofed phones
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i understand that a cellphone is NOT made to survive a throw aggainst the wall, but usualy cellphones are desinged to surive at least a drop from a table.
nokia, samsung and every other cellphone producer does it. so does SE (usualy)
i dont know why, but i remeber metal cases to not crack that easily. uess i was wrong here
3 drops and 3 cracks!? and all of them in the upper part of the phone are a serious design flaw in my eyes. the "crack in case" sticky thread should proove me somewhat right here.
otherwise its a good phone
edit: well u can be sure that once that thing is repaired, that im going to buy a leather cover for it.

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Nokia carry out extensive drop tests
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extensive drop tests to ascertain the viability of the device and by viability they mean that the device remains operational following the drop, not whether the device shell does get scratched and how many scratches the shell forms.

alias_neo said:
This is a piece of precision engineering.
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Please. Great insides, horrible outsides.
My silver X1a has cracks now, and it has never been dropped.
I think that the simple act of removing the battery cover stresses the case.

mkouk said:
extensive drop tests to ascertain the viability of the device and by viability they mean that the device remains operational following the drop, not whether the device shell does get scratched and how many scratches the shell forms.
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scratches are not nearly the same as cracks. a crack leads to instability and that just lead to more cracks. plus ... dropping a cellphone is something that IS tested.
usualy while developing it and maybe tahts what went wrong here. could have been other material or another production technique

omg, this is one of the worst complaining I ever read. X1 is a phone you are not supposed to drop it to the floor. Your phone is still operational and this is what's supposed to do, and your' lucky with it.
If you don't even want scratches buy a ruggedized phone

where exactly did i wrote that i care about scratches?
a phone is a device of usage and not something that should not break just cause u open the batterycase .
thats like building a car out of wood cause u are NOT SUPPOSED to have an accident in it!
great argument...
dam i hate this phone as much as i love it.
im going to send it back to repair and buy myself a leacthercase then and the next time i ever buy a phone with a casted metalcase

mkouk said:
extensive drop tests to ascertain the viability of the device and by viability they mean that the device remains operational following the drop, not whether the device shell does get scratched and how many scratches the shell forms.
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We are not talking about scratches. Scratches can not be avoided. Cracks are an entirely different thin. Cracks tend to go right through a surface, scratches are only on a surface. Ive never had a cracked nokia out of bout 5 or 6. On that not ive never had a cracked SE out of 5 or 6, including my x1.
Ive had samsung, lg, nokia, nec, erricson, sony erricson, motorola, xda, siemens, sharp probably forgot a couple, but never had cracks from dropping any of them. Im an HGV mechanic and give them some amount of abuse, dropping them from height, dropping them down pits dropped tools on to them etc etc
I guess ill have to mollycoddle my x1

wtf does mollycoddle mean?
edit: never mind ... got it ^^

achmed20 said:
i expected the metal case to be far moreresistent to crashes and accidently drops but it looks like. it totaly isnt.
i droped it 3 times now (horay for beeing drunken) and EVERY FRECKIN TIME i had another crack.
1. time, a little carck near teh camera. thiner as a hair an barely seeable.
2. under the Volume button
3. a part of the plasic case inside the phone. now my battery cover doesnt fit that good anymore and jumps off quite easy
SE ... WTF did u (or HTC) produce here? i cant count how many times i dropped my Nokia's, the K800i and every other freackin cellphone i had before. i also had a PDA before which looked like its going to fall apart if i just touch it. dopped it more times than all my phones together and that thing didnt want to die.
dam ... i realy hope the X2 is going to be better and more resistent to shocks
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How do you drop your phone? If you're drunk don't use your phone if you know you will drop it. Because after the 1st time wouldn't you learn? It doesn't register in your head you've dropped it before? High-end phones shouldn't be more resistant to shock, they were never designed to be dropped!
Here I found a phone designed to be dropped just for you...
http://www.gsmarena.com/benq_siemens_m81-1593.php

ah sure ... now u trying to convince me that u are one of the few people in the world that never ever accidently droped anything.
be my master! teach me please! i wanna learn your ways of not having accidents ever aggain
/me bows down and shows utter respect to the perfection of human mankind

the xperia cracks up even if you dont drop it, thats why its so sad.. i dont know if many other phones do that?

achmed20 said:
ah sure ... now u trying to convince me that u are one of the few people in the world that never ever accidently droped anything.
be my master! teach me please! i wanna learn your ways of not having accidents ever aggain
/me bows down and shows utter respect to the perfection of human mankind
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achmed,
I've owned a w800i for three to four years, and I've only accidentally dropped it once (slid out of my pocket when I exited the car). So it's possible to not drop your phone at all, you just need to be more careful of your gadgets.
Now, as to the number of times I've thrown the W800i out of rage, that's a whole different story.
Cheers.

The X1 cracks on it's own.
My X1 that already has been repaired twice has 2+1 new cracks and I've only had it back from repairs 8 days.
I have never ever dropped my phone.
1 crack is located on the chromeframe, a hairline crack exactly between the vol and camera buttons.
I think this crack comes from disassembling and assembling it too many times.
The second crack is located by the stylus.
Just to sum it up:
bat/vol crack - 2+1 (I just noticed that my good old bat/vol crack is back a 3rd time)
Chrome frame - 1
Stylus crack - 1
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equals= 5 cracks in total.
During the last 8 days I've been home sick with the flue and
I haven't used my phone and still it somehow produced 2+1 fresh cracks.
Something is very wrong with this model...
I'm done with this phone now..
Does anyone know of a good replacement for the X1? I really liked the X1 until it started to fall apart..

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What ever you do don't drop it!!

My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
Another reason why I wont be having kids...
Hi, I rang Vodafone today and I think they have a few replacement unitsleft, as they said they'd bee shipping me out one in the next few days... see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611939
I hope its actually a HD2 they are shipping me and not another phone, fingers crossed!!
The direct replacement number they gave me was 08448540430 but I'm not sure if thats the right one for insurance but you can try it. Let me know how you get on
Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
hammers4life said:
Sounds promising, thanks! If I get another i'll be wrapping it in cotton wool...
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If I could I'd cover it in adamantium...
This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
Strange, dropped mine 6 feet onto a tile floor yesterday, i was like nooooooooooooo!, picked it up, still perfect, must have been lucky.
Syphon Filter said:
This is quite worrying. I mean sure dropping a phone would not be considered "normal use" but surely it should have been taken into account when designing the unit that phones do get dropped?
My Touch Pro has hit the deck on more than one occassion and it's unscathed!! I'm not the careless type either, I look after my tech but these things happen. It's worrying that a 2ft drop onto laminate could cause the screen to completely shatter.
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Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
You were extremely fortunate, either that or I was extremely unfortunate. Ive been reading about the HD2 apparently theres alot of internal stress so although the screen is pretty much scratch proof its not so good on when struck. Very annoying as Ive been very protective of this phone
its actually pretty tough
in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
stefanfuchsuk said:
in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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Being intoxicated whilst using this phone is what I fear the most...
lude219 said:
Your Touch Pro also happens to have a plastic screen. Sounds stupid comparing it to a thin glass screen, doesn't it? You make it sounds like it's the coming of the apocalypse because the HD2 is the first of its kind to have screen cracked when dropped. Take a look at iphones, droids, hero, etc...
People here freaked out because it's probably the first capacitive screen they've owned and continue using it like it's plastic like past HTC phones. Be extra careful. Period.
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I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
Seems like the phone is a bit like an egg. Squeeze an egg from the top and it won't break. Squeeze from the middle however...! So some drop the phone and it shocks the "middle" while others drop it and it shocks the "top". Some are lucky, some are not. Hey ho, them's the breaks! (No pun intended)
HTC HD2 very fragil
hammers4life said:
My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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I recall at list 7 users in this forum having broken screen and so on, so it seems to be taken in consideration >> a hard protector box be highly recommended.
stefanfuchsuk said:
in my drunken state on new years eve I dropped my phone from shoulder height onto tar! some little dents on the bottom but 100% fine! Impressed...
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hammers4life said:
My son woke me up in the morning i bent over to look at the time knocking my HD2 all of 2 foot onto my laminate flooring..... screen has completely shattered!! this is one fragile device. Thankfully its insured through Vodafone I took it into the store today, but there doubtfull it can be fixed as it also chipped a piece of casing off as well. Now I'm a bit concerned they have no stock of the HD2 . I'll be gutted if thats the case.
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Seriously. I let it drop like every god damned day from the 24th to the 1rst, and it's still pristine. no scratches. I even let it drop from my height (6 feet 2) while drunk and playing with a girl who tried to snap it out of my hands, my heart skipped a beat, but when I took it up, again, no scratches. I was like, God exists!
But neverthless, I ordered three different cases. I don't want to run out of luck.
Dropped mine from 1,5 meter on a stone floor, nothing happend....
Thank god!
I've dropped my HD2 more than 6 times already (usually from holding height, so about 4 feet) sometimes with the leather case sometimes without. It is still in perfect condition. Come to think about it, it think it always landed on the ends so that may prove the egg theory. I do not have it insured so I'm not gonna go prove that theory just yet
It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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It really must depend the way it lands, but trust me 2 foot (bedside cabinet height) was enough to write off my new love lol. Or maybe someone didnt build mine and the other poor bast*rds phones right... maybe forgot to do up a few screws haha, but anyway all I'll say is be damned careful and take out that insurance it really is worth it.
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Friday afternoon unit maybe!
Syphon Filter said:
I'm not saying your wrong, but things like "drops" should be taken into account at the design stage of a device such as a phone.
Your car keys are not meant to be dropped, but they'd survive wouldnt they? A mobile phone, by it's very nature, is prone to a drop or two over it's lifetime...
Your reply is very condescending and poorly thought out.
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Condescending? Poorly thought out? Like how you're comparing dropping your brick of a phone with plastic screen to a thin one with GLASS screen? LOL. I'm not even going to vilify that judging by your lack of common sense and logic.
Of course it's taken into account during the construction of the phone. Some people enjoy the finer things in life, and that means sacrificing some structural integrity for form factor. I'm sure being as naive as you are, you probably didn't think about that. You see, Syphon, the HD2 is like a Ferrari F430 comparing to your Civic of a Touch Pro. It has carbon fiber exterior mated with 490 ponies strapped to the back, and like any other cars out there, it has been crash-tested. It's expensive because of lightweight material, because of exquisite engine design, and because of engineering. All this to ensure that the driver gets the most thrill and satisfaction out of driving it. These cars are well maintained and pampered due to the common sense that these owners have and to be able to understand that these toys are expensive and you'd take the utmost precaution to enjoy them. Now the majority of the people who own these cars are smart, successful people who take pride in taking care of their valuables...the kind of stuff that you lack.
Your Civic, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen...and are the stuff that junkyards are made of. They're cheap, easily to get thrown around and can be easily fixed. The fact of the matter is, your civic is nothing more but a rolling scrap metal that attracts door dings, bird poo, and a variety of things that happen to a car with as much of a presence as a piece of rock. In case you're still clueless, your touch pro should never be compared to an HD2. It's a giant slab of plastic that doubles as a door stop.
Now, I was going to stop but you made another grand of a post. In case you haven't noticed, most car key FOBs are PLASTIC. Yep. Quite a shocker huh? You know what else is a shocker? It doesn't have a screen. All it is, is a small PCB board with a round battery attached to it. Though I wouldnt expect you to understand that based on your inane inability to understand what plastic is and what glass is. I suggest having a running start and smashing your head through your car window so you'll know what the difference is.
....I should aso tell you to put on a helmet to protect that smart brain of yours.

How durable is our HD2?

Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
Hey, i droped it many times and nothing happens.
Sometimes from 150 cm and a bit more and less.
I have thrown my Diamond down the street many times on a night out, but I would never want to drop my HD2 outside of a case, the entire front of the phone is glass, so you may get lucky a couple of times you may not. I wouldn't want to take the chance, it's expensive to replace.
I've dropped my HD2 a few times, most recent was when my mate rugby tackled me on a night out and broke my hand in the process, the HD2 survived almost unscathed due to it being in its case, although there is now a tiny chip on the front-facing bezel above the headphone socket where it meets the glass.
I never bothered with a screen protector and the screen looks as good as new and I've had mine since Nov2009. It's a tough little phone. As long as you keep it in its case when its not being used you will be fine.
hardik119 said:
Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
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If you're that clumsy, I'd suggest you keep it in it's case Hardik119 as Murphys law says you'll drop it as soon as you take that cover off?
Hulmeman said:
If you're that clumsy, I'd suggest you keep it in it's case Hardik119 as Murphys law says you'll drop it as soon as you take that cover off?
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hehe, i can see tomorrows post already
'so last night i fumbled whilst taking the case off and the phone exploded into 900 pieces'
hardik119 said:
Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
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It's great, I dropped it several times from 0.5m-1.0m and it's working perfectly ATM.
Had mine for 9 months now, never put a silicon case or it or screen protector. Only use the leather-ish case that came with it, have dropped my HD2 loads of times. I am litterally the worst person with phones, i had four new phones in a 2 year contract before this because i am so clumbsy, including the kaiser and tp2. HD2 is far more resilient and mine has not noticable marks on it.
Maybe i'm lucky with this phone, but i have seen videos of hd2 and iphone being pushed together screen to screen and the iphone breaks way earlier and considering the screen is that much smaller more pressure would be technically be being applied to the HD2.
Dust in your HD2's USB port is more likely to break your phone than dropping it.
The screen is gorilla glass, check out youtube for some videos of guys trying to break or scratch it, not easy! As for the case, I dropped it a couple of times on asphalt, and while the case looked fine, there is a rubbery edging around the screen that did get gouged. You can't really tell by looking, but you can feel it.
Such a classy device needs to be treated elegantly!!
A screen protector is a must have.
And to show off with ur sexy phone use a OEM leather pouch (slim and rich looking) that can be bought from ebay with a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Leather-pou...389855?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item415267839f
for such a big screen with lots of glass, its pretty tough, im a bit clumsy with phones, like some, i dropped by LG BL40, good job, it was ****e, but screen shatterd, chucked it in the bin and got this...always used the pouch, but had it out playing music, a broom(yes a broom) fell over and i have a c shaped scratch, drives me mad...but did scratch easier i thought..the case marks pretty easy to. But for such a large phone, thumbs up.
sevoflurane said:
Such a classy device needs to be treated elegantly!!
A screen protector is a must have.
And to show off with ur sexy phone use a OEM leather pouch (slim and rich looking) that can be bought from ebay with a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Leather-pou...389855?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item415267839f
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not sure I agree with the screen protector. I can never keep one on the phone, it will be on for a couple of months, then start annoying me and I take it off. The screen is very scratch resistant and I don't tend to drop phones. It stays in it's bodyglove kickstand case (which adds a little lip to the edges) and goes in a leather beltclip case.
hardik119 said:
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The screen is very durable. Over the 9 months I've owned my HD2 the screen hasn't had one scratch on it despite no screen protector.
Drop it and one of two things will happen: nothing or total destruction of the screen.
Unfortunately, after 9 months of being careful I recently dropped my phone onto concrete from about 2 feet and the screen is totalled
The problem lies with the thinness of the bezel where it meets the screen (it deforms easily) and the tight tolerances of the join between the bezel and glass.
The combination is deadly and any design engineer ought to have noticed that at pre-production.
Someone at HTC sacrificed how the phone felt in the hand to how the glass screen reacts to side on pressure as a result of the bezel deforming on impact.
I'd be happy to have a chunkier bezel with just a few more mm of metal on the bezel if it prevents deformation on impact.
The phone is insured but I'll probably get reamed at policy renewal time next year.
the hd2 is durable as far as drops go (i don't use a case) - i've dropped mine twice, once on a wooden floor from about 5 ft up,no damage, and once onto concrete from the same height,only damage a very tiny dent/scratch on the corner of the case where it hit the street.
however, do NOT believe the bull**** about the screen being super scratch resistant !! after only two weeks of GENTLE use,and only being kept in my back pocket with nothing else,there was a one inch scratch across the front. i know,i saw the videos as well, but the fact remains. it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR IMMEDIATELY !!!!
Neither case nor screen protector has (or will) ever touched the perfect curves of my hd2. Furthermore, it has seen a heavy ammount of abuse.
As far as dropping it goes... I wouldn't reccomend it. Mine has survived chest high (I'm 6'4") drops on to concrete (landing screen first) and not broken. However, many a sad story has been told by users with falls from lesser heights. The unlucky folks notwithstanding, I have to say that the screen is certainly well-made. In the 6+ months I've owned it, the screen remains conspicuously scratch-free. It should be noted that I often take out my car keys and and aggressively assault the screen with them (to the horror of onlookers). I also regularly lay my device down face-first. Still can't seem to find a single scratch.
As previously mentioned, I do not have or use a case of any kind. I keep my phone on me at all times in my front pocket (screen facing my leg). This includes when I am at work. I work... at a warehouse. Which means my hd2 gets to enjoy pallets, boxes, and various other blunt-force trauma slamming against it in my pocket. Here's what I have found.
The parts that are NOT so tough:
1) Battery cover.
I have noticeable scratches and marks on the battery cover. There is a thin coating on it that will flake off after a certain ammount of abuse.
2) The flash.
My led flash was dislodged slightly (some time while at work) and pressed up against the vibration motor. Although it was easy enough to fix by popping the phone open and remounting it.
The parts that ARE tough:
So far... everything else.
jamima69 said:
it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR IMMEDIATELY !!!!
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No. It really doesn't. Whatever happend to your phone to cause a scratch is unfortunate... but it is the exception, not the rule. When I am unable to INTENTIONALLY scratch something, aforementioned "thing" can not be considered "easily scratchable".
I dropped mine from 4-5 feet high a few times (a couple onto concrete) and it was fine.
Then yesterday I dropped it from 2 feet high onto a wood floor and the screen was totally destroyed. Must have just hit at the right (wrong) angle...
Also, my screen has several scratches on it, so saying it is EXTREMELY scratch resistant is BS. However, now that my screen is destroyed anyway, I tried scratching it with a key, and knife, a pushpin, and a couple other things (haven't tried my wife's diamond ring, heh) and cannot for the life of me scratch it. But it DID get scratched somehow... and one of them was there after only a few days of use.
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however, do NOT believe the bull**** about the screen being super scratch resistant !! after only two weeks of GENTLE use,and only being kept in my back pocket with nothing else,there was a one inch scratch across the front. i know,i saw the videos as well, but the fact remains. it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
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the one inch scratch on your HD2 is very unfortunate, but does not mean at all that it scratches "pretty damn easy". At this point I totally disagree. I have my HD2 now for more than 1 year and I'm a heavy user, but after all this time there is not one single scratch to detect on the screen. I must say though, that I always have my HD2 in a leather belt case when not in use, but never used a screen protector on my HD2.
So in conclusion: the HD2 does not scratch easlly at all, but you have just been unfortunate and very unlucky.
regards, Kuzibri
I've recently replaced the screen in my HD2 because the old one had sustained some serious damage through an unfortunate encounter with asphalt. The device can handle some serious punishment, but the screen can crack quite easily when dropped just the wrong way. I've heard the screen can handle 400 newton of force which is quite a lot, but a 1 meter drop and slide across asphalt was too much.
Also, the screen is almost scratch-free except for sand! Sand can scratch the screen easily (had it in my pocket when working on the beach) so use a screenprotector when in a sandy environment.
While the phone is durable, it is always a good idea to to have the phone in a gell case to keep it from getting mangled when dropped. having owned several touch phones I have not found a need for a screen protector as I do not put my phone face down or in a pocket with other things...

N1 got dropped, do I need anger management?

The screen impacted the floor squarely and the phone was naked. Bottom panel popped out of alignment, though thankfully it could be popped back in. There's a new scratch at the bottom of the front. FFFFUUUUUUUU.
I mean sure, it still functions as normal--and to this I must testify for HTC's build quality--but ****ing **** ****. It'd be one thing if I was the one clumsy enough to drop it, but it's a co-worker's clumsiness which sent me into quite a rage. I was this close to demanding that he either buys me a replacement or gives me the money to buy one, because honestly ****ing **** is it so hard to be mindful of other people's belongings, especially expensive belongings?
God.
Yea, it really sucks to drop a naked N1. I remember walking out of the gym once and I pulled my keys out of my pocket. My N1 decided to go along for the ride and jumped right out and landed on the ground. I was so pissed at myself. After noticing the scratches, I cried a little inside. But it's okay though, I just remind myself that it's just a phone and I will be getting a new one in less than a year.
I've dropped my nexus so many times I've lost count.
It really does suck though, it's so damn expensive that it's almost a part of you.
I have dropped my phone also, not a N1 but a Droid and the first time i almost wanted to cut off my clumsy hands, but as DOHCtor says i remember it's just a phone and if by any chance was broken i could do nothing but buy another (Although at that moment i didn't have enough money to do it right away).
Fortunately my droid keeps working
Yeah, I'm glad it's still working and come some time next year I'll be getting a new phone, but grrrrr. Right now I don't really want to change yet because the phone's nice and I like it, and even if I managed to squeeze the dude for a new-phone fund, I'd have been quite heartbroken.
My next phone's going to be aluminium.
DOHCtor said:
Yea, it really sucks to drop a naked N1. I remember walking out of the gym once and I pulled my keys out of my pocket. My N1 decided to go along for the ride and jumped right out and landed on the ground. I was so pissed at myself. After noticing the scratches, I cried a little inside. But it's okay though, I just remind myself that it's just a phone and I will be getting a new one in less than a year.
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So you have your phone in your pocket with your keys? Seriously?
I dropped my phone once onto road, chipped a small bit off the top right, i felt terrible about it. Im very careful with it these days, i still haven't got any idea what a replacement phone would be like, the N1 is still the best imo.
noooooo you people are insane. or i am just OCD about chit like that. yes its just a phone if you look at it. however, that one scratch, nick or dent will haunt you til you get a replacement. I remember my first real cell phone back in the days. "NOKIA 8900" yes the slider. i cradled that thing like my first born. one day my friend asked to see it and she decided to close the lid by slamming the phone to the table. I nearly killed her. ever since then, when they ask, i say no and say its just a phone. LOL.
I don't know i am maybe little insane but i just cant over look the damage. i prob replace it or change out the casing. i done that many times. however, if you were looking to replace it no biggie.
PS. I know somebody who can take care of your coworker if you want.
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PS. I know somebody who can take care of your coworker if you want.
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How much are we talking about?
Not much..... lol.
Plus its different when others drop your phone. When you do it you can shrug it off but others.... i don't know I'd I can handle it.....
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Bummer! Hope u can fix it up. I keep mine in a bank safe
yeah i'm terrified of damaging my N1 that i just got and the guy i bought it from had dropped it once and it has a few dings on 1 side at the corners from it.
this is probably the first phone i've had that will stay in a rubber case most of the time. its just too thin and small in my clumsy hand to use without it i'm certain i would drop it and these screens break even easier than older phones did because the glass is so close to the edge of the housing.
my G1 however took many falls and the screen stayed intact. i was surprised how well it has held up. i used it for 2 years straight with no case.
to the guy who keeps his N1 in the same pocket as his keys, thats a recipe for disaster. remember glass is hard and brittle. when objects that are as hard or harder than glass touch, press or hit glass like a key or a rock the glass is more often than not going to break and at the very least get scratched and scratches if good enough can develop into a crack pretty easily.
i always have and always will keep my phone with screen facing my thigh in my pocket opposite of the pocket i keep my keys in
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My next phone's going to be aluminium.
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Aluminum scratches and dents worse than plastic! I'd choose plastic over aluminum. But that Liquidmetal material (a special patented alloy of titanium and other stuff that has no ordered crystal structure) looks pretty good; it might be tough enough. Hopefully more manufacturers will start using it.
Yall dont use cases?????
Frito11 said:
yeah i'm terrified of damaging my N1 that i just got and the guy i bought it from had dropped it once and it has a few dings on 1 side at the corners from it.
this is probably the first phone i've had that will stay in a rubber case most of the time. its just too thin and small in my clumsy hand to use without it i'm certain i would drop it and these screens break even easier than older phones did because the glass is so close to the edge of the housing.
my G1 however took many falls and the screen stayed intact. i was surprised how well it has held up. i used it for 2 years straight with no case.
to the guy who keeps his N1 in the same pocket as his keys, thats a recipe for disaster. remember glass is hard and brittle. when objects that are as hard or harder than glass touch, press or hit glass like a key or a rock the glass is more often than not going to break and at the very least get scratched and scratches if good enough can develop into a crack pretty easily.
i always have and always will keep my phone with screen facing my thigh in my pocket opposite of the pocket i keep my keys in
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Actually, no, the nexus screen doesnt scratch easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74
I don't usually put my keys and phone in the same pocket, it just happen to be in the same pocket at that time. And besides, my keys only consist of a car key and house key. It's not like I'm a janitor.
You could be the most careful guy in the world, but it just takes one bad drop and your phone could be done. I haven't seen it happen with the Nexus, but that's because no one I know has one. I've seen it with a handful of iPhones and other touch screen phones though.. It's well worth the investment to protect a $600 device
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Plus its different when others drop your phone. When you do it you can shrug it off but others.... i don't know I'd I can handle it.....
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Exactly. You can't very well punch someone over a phone, people'd think you are a complete lunatic. But the urge is there. Oh, how it is there.
S_Dot said:
Actually, no, the nexus screen doesnt scratch easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74
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Good god, you think this video is real? It's faked, he's not pressing hard at all.
Besides, it's not the "one time" that'll necessarily get you, it's the "every day" stuff that gets you. The screen will get dull, the paint will start dulling.. There's zero chance I'll ever put my phone in my pocket with keys, coins, etc. In fact I rarely put it in my pocket at all, 99% of the time it's in my Krussel case.
Yeah I work in the glass industry the thinner the glass is the harder it is to scratch but the easier it is to break.
My nexus has a hand full of scratches on the screen
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[Q] is it really so fragile?!

I'm thinking of buying a GS2 and what scares me the most are the threads by people who cracked the screen.
All my phones fall, from the first siemens (back in the '90) to my my last htc hero.
At least once a month it makes a flight off the sofa, off the table, on the cement ... at most the back cover comes off, the battery flies away and the body (not the display) reports some scratches.
My hero also shows signs of bites and scratches by a cat, but nothing more!
(try to control a cat a let me know ...)
I read the last post of a poor guy whose s2 fell to less than one meter on the gravel and the display cracked!
But is it really so fragile?!
Is there someone whose s2 has been dropped from a reasonable height and the screen survived ?
L.
volpe71 said:
I'm thinking of buying a GS2 and what scares me the most are the threads by people who cracked the screen.
All my phones fall, from the first siemens (back in the '90) to my my last htc hero.
At least once a month it makes a flight off the sofa, off the table, on the cement ... at most the back cover comes off, the battery flies away and the body (not the display) reports some scratches.
My hero also shows signs of bites and scratches by a cat, but nothing more!
(try to control a cat a let me know ...)
I read the last post of a poor guy whose s2 fell to less than one meter on the gravel and the display cracked!
But is it really so fragile?!
Is there someone whose s2 has been dropped from a reasonable height and the screen survived ?
L.
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at the right angle anything can crack
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You have a 4.3 inch screen, 8mm phone, ofcourse it's fragile. All of them are. Like ^ said, buy a nice case, and you'll have some protection against small falls.
If you cannot afford the Case Mate Tough Case , then Amazon has some reasonably cheap gel cases , do not buy a silicone case as they attract dirt/dust like a magnet
OP, I dropped mine from 1 meter height a number of times, but always on wooden or carpeted floor. Never dropped on concrete or gravel. But I bet most modern smart phones with large touchscreens will crack if dropped on hard surface landing on the screen or even not on the screen but at a proper angle like someone already mentioned.
Either buy a good case, or buy a tough weather and impact proof phone.
dropped mine 100 times.....apart from a few cosmetic scratches, been fine
volpe71 said:
Is there someone whose s2 has been dropped from a reasonable height and the screen survived ?
My hero also shows signs of bites and scratches by a cat, but nothing more!
(try to control a cat a let me know ...)
L.
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I dropped mine the first day from about 1.7 meters/5.6 feet(?) (I guess that's the height my ear is at) on the pavement. It's fine, just scratches and scuffs on the corners and the back, but nothing bad.
Bought the CaseMate Tough Case though, just to be sure.
PS. Damn cats! mine keeps battling my remote, it lights up as he touches it... chews through the lcd screens
I have just a full-body screen protector on mine and have dropped it a couple of times and its been fine. What part of the phone that hits the ground first is going to make a big difference too. If it hits the ground vertically on a corner than yes, you're more likely to have the screen crack. A couple of the reported cracks were from stress where the screen was in someones pocket and either pressed against something or sat on. Also, consider how many are out there now and the cracked screen reports are less than a dozen. I was afraid of it when I first got it but less so now.
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at the right angle anything can crack
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Gonna get one of those. Looks good.
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Having come from Nokia phones and Htc phones.. this is as light as a feather and just slipped through my hands quiet a few times.. but you get used to it..
Once it dropped of the table but no harm done. yes it is very light and I would suggest getting it a case or something to make it feel more in the HAnds although I never used cases on any of my phones leave alone screen protectors.
But yeah you get used to it after a while so go GET one
i threw mine, it still works. Buy a big leather case. Top tip of the day, it saves you ££££'s
You guys just need to be more careful with your phones.
DVC1985 said:
You guys just need to be more careful with your phones.
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LOL at "iPhone Dropped in Slow Motion"
Tinderbox (UK) said:
If you cannot afford the Case Mate Tough Case , then Amazon has some reasonably cheap gel cases , do not buy a silicone case as they attract dirt/dust like a magnet
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600€ for the phone so the price of the case would not be a problem.
A must have accessory (for my use) is an active car holder; one you put the phone in without having to plug cables, to put the phone out from the case, etc. ( like the original samsung one )
Anyway, thanks to everybody.
At the end I think I'll go for the phone, some "invisible skin" protector and an insurance.
L.
I am really a bit confused about this entire thread. Maybe I just haven't seen the flood of threads complaining about cracked screens, but the only ones I've seen even remotely related are:
1) Some dude dropped a dumb bell on his phone. You be the judge of whether or not that is indicative of the screen's robustness.
2) Some dude dropped his phone into the toilet for a swim with some poo and water. And, it still survived.
So, I guess if you want a phone that is impervious to heavy metal weights being dropped directly on it, then yes, I would be wary of this phone. The good news is, if you're the type to possibly have your mobile phone go for a **** swim every once in a while, you're in luck.
All joking aside, get a decent case for it, screen protectors, and the phone is as well built as any other well built phone. Plus, the phone in its "naked state" is a bit too thin for me anyway.
I dropped mine from like 1,5M on solid stone. Landed on a corner which now has a little dent other then that there is nothing to see...
I was actually surprised it survived i have seen phones die from less.
1m height to solid stone
Dropped mine from 1m onto solid stone floor. Landed flat on the screen side. 2 or 3 fix points on backcover opened. Other than that, not even a scratch. Back cover was also ok.
I have read these unfortunate threads before and I admit I was scarred to to pick it up lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ErXqnQKs-tA
cmd512 said:
I am really a bit confused about this entire thread. Maybe I just haven't seen the flood of threads complaining about cracked screens,
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XDA is not the only place in the world talking about phones ... anyway, am I free to be scared and ask or not? ;-)
L.
dropped mine 2 days ago ad the screen is chipped and cracked, now on the lookout for a new piece of glass

The Note 8.0 Drop Test

The guys at gizmoSlip have performed the quintessential drop test.
Not much problems in case of a back drop.
Screen shattered on the front drop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yORiMT8DZoM
I guess it would be a good idea to buy a protective case after all!!
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Are people still surprised that dropping a pane of glass causes it to break, or do you think that Samsung is using magical glass that is not prone to breakage? Never really understood the utility of a drop test.
If the device is metal, it'll either dent or bend. If the device is plastic it will either survive unscathed or crack. If the impact is not directly on the glass, glass may or may not break depending on the force, angle, etc. If the impact is directly to the glass, it will break. There, I just described the drop test outcomes for every phone or tablet ever made.
It also depends on the design of the device itself. note II survived the drop test. So not all results are the same
Note II is also smaller and lighter, with less surface area. Still, it's a pretty safe bet that if you drop the device glass down onto a hard surface, it'll break. If it doesn't, you just got extremely lucky, but it's not because the Note 8 has stronger/weaker glass than ipad mini, note II, etc.
I agree, complete waste if money.
Its funny. Alot of Samsung mobile devices get marked down in reviews for their choice of materials used in their casings. This test shows that it is durable at least.
I dont think I know any iPhone users who havent cracked their screen at one point or another from even the smallest of drops and ones where the screen didnt even land face down. So much so that my younger brother seems to repair one from someone he knows every few months as a hobby (he is an engineering student at university and likes to tinker with things). I'm not particuarly anti Apple, but that always seems to be the bench mark which everything is judged
Interesting. I would not do that with my Note 8
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Sun_Bean said:
Interesting. I would not do that with my Note 8
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any recommend case ?
reliable and good case
melnikor said:
any recommend case ?
reliable and good case
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I'm using this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4BEA82/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's an excellent case for only $7. All corners are protected except for the one where the pen sits
I unfortunatly did my own drop test! I had it in my outside suit pocket, and my bag pushed it out and fell from about 3.5 ft face down onto a NYC sidewalk. Fortunatly all that happened is the raised fray border got scratched/dented! Not cracks or scratches to screen! Plastic held up very well, almost had a heart atrack.
That one had a loose nack by sd slot, but found out after drop the whole back can be popped off. Hopefully someone will make some cool eubber/aluminim backs!
Since I had a loose back.
/usb port and backlight bleed, I returned for a fresh one! I want that stand pouch but cant find it online! Anyone seen it? I think this may be the same.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-stand-pouch-for-samsung-galaxy-note-8-0-grey-248537/
Anyway...the plastic and note are very durable!
hertsjoatmon said:
Its funny. Alot of Samsung mobile devices get marked down in reviews for their choice of materials used in their casings. This test shows that it is durable at least.
I dont think I know any iPhone users who havent cracked their screen at one point or another from even the smallest of drops and ones where the screen didnt even land face down. So much so that my younger brother seems to repair one from someone he knows every few months as a hobby (he is an engineering student at university and likes to tinker with things). I'm not particuarly anti Apple, but that always seems to be the bench mark which everything is judged
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It seems all I ever see are cracked iphones now that I think about it
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The front of every standard smartphone in the world is made out of glass. Glass has been known for being fragile for thousands of years. Anyone who claims that phone X is tougher than phone Y and tries to use that as an argument for or against a particular device is an idiot. I would say the same about people who buy devices just so they can make videos dropping them.
So Im still carrying my second one sans case..
Dropped TWO times yesterday, both about 4 ft off ground. Both times it lands face down, perfectly landing on the lip on the bezel(makes a real hefty noise). Barely a dent(tile and hard floor). I really think the glass is a hybrid with plastic, i didnt even get worried( this is 4 drop already)
Plastic=DURABLE
nymviper1126 said:
... i didnt even get worried( this is 4 drop already) ...
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Wow!!! You must have nerves of steel! That kind of thing would freak me out!
But good to know your Note 8 has been surviving just fine.
sputnik767 said:
The front of every standard smartphone in the world is made out of glass. Glass has been known for being fragile for thousands of years. Anyone who claims that phone X is tougher than phone Y and tries to use that as an argument for or against a particular device is an idiot. I would say the same about people who buy devices just so they can make videos dropping them.
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I agree that if you drop any phone on its front then your likely to damage the screen as it is fragile. My arguement is that some phones are more fragile than others if you drop them on the side (iphone) as the way that the case is designed (although sturdy to hold) transfers alot of the force onto the screen rather than has any "give" to absorb some of the impact.
Who's paying for these worthless tests buying new devices and breaking them. Please send me the money instead we already know how to break phone screens
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agambhandari said:
It also depends on the design of the device itself. note II survived the drop test. So not all results are the same
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Don't think so.
hurts my heart to see this
Just killed one, dropped right on corner to tile. LCD display went black with white bars.
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Just killed one, dropped right on corner to tile. LCD display went black with white bars.
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That's awful! Very sorry for you. It can be so gut wrenching to lose a great (and expensive!) device in an instant like that.

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