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Get a Universal NOW or wait ?

Hello people. I hope you can help me here!
I'm from the UK. I've been looking for a PDA/phone for AAGES. The closest 'ideal' is the HTC Universal, or more specifically, the O2 XDA Exec.
I require VGA, WiFi, Fast CPU, headphone jack, Bluetooth, GSM/UTMS, WM5.0, SD/mini, etc. Basically, everything that the Universal has. I intend to use it as a phone, web browser, audio/video player and games.
HOWEVER, the thing thats stopping me buying is... well, two things. Firstly, its the SIZE. I've held it and tried it in my jeans pocket. My friends look at me weird. It's massive.
Secondly - its been out for a while now. I'm worried something new is around the corner. The closest match i can see is the HERMES. However, lacks the 640x480, headphone jack and has micro SD.
I would definitely appreciate some help in this sticky situation.
Regards.
Kev.

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Man, I wish...
No seriously. If you want VGA, options are virtually nonexistent I think.
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Get it now.
Reason: While the successor to the current Universal will offer true VGA and much more (also probably running WM6.0), it could be as much as a year's wait. It still offers more than current and foreseeable future options in many aspects.
I don't think that this Willcom es is going to be anything great, the specs did not boast anything to make my jaw drop.

Hiya!
when it comes to electronics, theres ALWAYS something around the corner!
While we all like to have the latest gizmo's and gadgets, I prefer to buy my items after the initial furore dies down. The last Xbox 360, forthcoming PS3, the PSP, various PDA's, PCs, LCD tellys etc etc have new designs and features every few months. If you waited for the next best thing you'd never buy anything at all !!
The universal is quite large, however, I 'usually' find it's users who are stepping up a little from having normal mobile phones and testing out PDA's who say this.
Because were' all so used to having much smaller phones, carrying and seeing the exec makes it look like a brick!
The Xda Mini S (and it's other names) is a good alternative for people like this - the Exec seems to be for more experienced and/or power users mainly.
Just so happens I have a brand new '4 week old' Exec for sale!!!
Cheers! Dennis! West London UK!!

vijay555 said:
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Man, I wish...
No seriously. If you want VGA, options are virtually nonexistent I think.
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Yeah they things look freakin awesome, I would get one if it wasn't for the lack of WiFi- I mean like why have a QWERTY keyboard and VGA screen if you can't go online with WiFi?

What are the names of the known devices that are to come out in the next year or so with similar or greater specs than the Exec/M5000?
I basically want to know what I can look forward to....

No one knows about a VGA replacement.
Surur

get it.
i'm still somehwat new to all this and got alot of advice before diving in and buying mine. i pretty much live by it now. really, the size factor is more a current perception of what is too big. i don't even notice mine anymore. it may seem an eye sore at first, but large screen it well worth it - like a little tv. really not all that big. i see people with nintendo sidekicks and such which is just as big. keyboard though no laptop, can really get you buy for majority of mobile computing. nothing overall had as many features either. it does everythign i need.....and i got my off ebay for around $600.

The prices of second-hand HTC Universal are falling now, so have a look on ebay (I got my refurbished unit for 240 pounds!). Then it should last till whenever the next VGA replacement comes out.

Yeah, you can now get a secondhand Universal from a relatively well-known chain for £300 with a 12 month guarantee if you're in the UK (which I prefer to do, rather than risking the whole ebay thing).
If you're lucky it'll be in mint condition, but in any case it won't be too battered and you have peace of mind for a year. That's how I've replaced my lost JasJar with a nearly-new Exec, anyway.
Back to the original post, I seriously considered waiting for the FS T830, despite it's puny screen but decided against it mainly 'cause I'd rather be stuck in the middle of nowhere watching movies on my VGA screen, than using GPS to find my destination with a 240 x 240 pixel eye-strainer.
Nothing else really on the horizon. The Hermes looks nice, but it'll be practically the same price as the Universal, and of the two I'd rather have the Uni. Of course, next summer there'll be all sorts of competition, but who wants to wait 12 months....?

sub69 said:
Back to the original post, I seriously considered waiting for the FS T830, despite it's puny screen but decided against it mainly 'cause I'd rather be stuck in the middle of nowhere watching movies on my VGA screen, than using GPS to find my destination with a 240 x 240 pixel eye-strainer.
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LOL agree. But then wouldn't watching "Lost" make you feel nervous?
The T830 looks rather thick too. But hey, that's what everyone says about the Universal.
And what shops sell second-hand gadgets? I know you can sometimes get refurbished items from shops like PC World (who don't sell phones, I believe) but they are rare and are often battered.

Touch HD QWERTY SLIDE-OUT!! PICS!

UPDATE 2/14/09- HAHAHA!! I LAUGH AT THE VERY FIRST COMMENT POSTED!!!! IT SEEMS OUR DREAMS ARE COMING TRUE WITH THE NEW HTC MODELS LEAKED!!!!! So i guess all of our hard work and wishfull thinking has finally paid off. The only thing to really worry about now is whether HTC will hold true to the leaked hype and deliver to ATT a touch Hd variant with a full qwerty in true Iphone killer fashion. I WILL BE CHECKING ALL WEBSITES FOR ANY NEWS ON MOBILE WORLD CONGRESS '09 NEWS AND HTC-RELATED PRODUCTS. If we dont see this screen on the leaked models at MWC 09 then im definitly saving up for the Toshiba TG01!! keyboard or not, a 4.1" screen with full divx support outta the box!!? now thats an end all to smartphones for sure!! keep ya posted on all the new pics if we get any. Plus ill try to create some better quality Photoshop pics of the leaked HTC phones so we may be able to have a better resolution. thanks all for the poll responses!!!
Update!!! Ok so ive been working on the 3D model for this concept. I finished pretty much everything i wanted to do. The look is there. hopefully someone over at HTC is checking these pics out. It took me a total of about 3 days to model out this phone. and it was fun to decide the final look. overall i would say it should be no thicker than the tilt. hopefully with new tech it will be thinner. aside from that i thought it would great if the front buttons were only visible when the screen was on, seeing as how they are not physical buttons. and maybe they could all be configurable to different icons, almost as if they were on a small led screen so you could give them a custom look. the camera is now flush with the back, which is how i think it should always be. maybe physical limitations are to blame for the official design. i hope all you guys like it. I might consider putting together some models of other concept phones in the future. maybe an Iphone with a slide out QWERTY k/b!! hehe. just kidding. who knows. hope you all like them.
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For me it is a fake PS and this model will never happens.

I do not think that they are will release a qwerty model as it is directly competing against the iphone and they do not want it to be thick.

I'm hoping you're wish will become true...
But we always want more... : http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/mobilerumours/8263

they are fake, I made them!! just wishing they will come true. someone needs to make thinner keyboard hardware and thinner slide-out hardware. my tilt still feels like a brick. and the touch pro? that is a joke. too thick for me. thats why i made these. my Dreams!

Thats clearly Photoshopped
I think a HD, with Qwerty will just become to bulky to be really really attractive..

Lord.Bachus said:
Thats clearly Photoshopped
I think a HD, with Qwerty will just become to bulky to be really really attractive..
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ofcourse it is. he made them just to show us and talk about it....

BAsocial said:
I'm hoping you're wish will become true...
But we always want more... : http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/mobilerumours/8263
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More infor about the T8290 here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1378
Surur

And after they got the keyboard attached they will add a fingerprint scanner, tv-tuner, wimax, surround sound speakers and hdmi.
I think this is already one of the best phones HTC ever built if it is as good as it looks. The only true iPhone-killer so far I think. Of course they can build a phone that suits everyone's needs but first of all they need to beat the competitiors before experimenting. I will probably buy it next year.
By the way, on the second picture in the lower part of the picture the keyboard is wider than the phone, so when you close it the keyboard will stick out on the other side.

Great tazbo28!!!
As a happy Universal user I always have been looking for a REAL succesor of the best PDA ever made!: Universal
And this work you done it´s exactly what I call the PERFECT uni succesor!!
I don´t know if this will become real or not but I´m having hope!!!!
Congrats!!!

That's the phone I'm waiting for. Why would the iphone have anything to do with holding back production of this type of phone. They could have the best of both worlds with the Touch HD (iphone killer for those people wanting it to be dead so bad) and the Touch HD Pro (for those people who really don't want to give up the use of a physical keyboard). That's how you could kill more than just the iphone. I'll be waiting.......hopefully this will be born someday.

It would probably sell but....
anyhow, your lighting is all wrong which is why it looks very fake.

It'd be good to see the Touch HD have a QWERTY keyboard.

You tried but u didn't photoshopped it well
I just hope this could happen in reality...it would be an all round iphone killer + a wonderful piece of device.
Oh Jesus! my post got hijacked and now, the whole world wide web is filled with your mock up picture of HTC Touch HD Pro and rumours that the PPC might be coming... damn,this is what the WWW could do

mojohio said:
.......hopefully this will be born someday.
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I saw this on at least one other website and I don't recall them recognizing it was faked by way of wishful thinking.... doesn't take much to "start" a rumor does it.

i had a wizard and a trinity. My conclusion: the keyboard is not used all the times, and anyway too small for real typing. I bought a bluetooth keyboard but never used it....

The best PDA Fake I ever saw was done with a HP 4200 I think. They detached the touch screen from that tablet PC and hooked it up to the Dell X51v's VGA-out and claimed that HTC got a new supersize pocketpc / tablet-whatever thing. Very funny fake since they did it on video which made it look even more realistic.
If they would make a foldable version they could compete with the E90, that's a very very solid pda in that part of the business world: weight doesn't matter, just quality, size and funtionality.

It is true..why cant HTC make a ppc with keyboard just like the E90 - i mean the one that closes and not slide :-?

bjluv said:
It is true..why cant HTC make a ppc with keyboard just like the E90 - i mean the one that closes and not slide :-?
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See HTC Universal.
Surur

It's a great fake ^_^ A Touch HD with keyboard, should be street priced about $1200 LOL

Does anyone have T-Mobile Shadow now?

Write here please

I have one, but I'm not using it currently. I just keep it for a backup phone.

Can you help me? I need to know its user agent.

I have one and probably 2 more other people that still use it !

tuppaacc
The same question to you (post #3)

Have one, use it as my primary phone, running WM6.5.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4302275&postcount=5

my only phone!

Hot in China because of the low price now
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yeah me too. primary device. running 6.1 cause 6.5 didn't float my boat. I like it buuttt the processor is horid. I mean for the price, awesome. But when 15 year old's show off thier IPhones to me....it's a little depressing. If I didn't have a heart, I'd grab it and run into the darkness like a sneeze to a tissue.

Until a few days ago it was my daily phone. Now that I have my new phone ,which uses an all touch screen, I kind of miss the Shadow. I guess I can alternate. LOL
Heard the Shadow II's were trash in comparison the original. Best part of the phone was that there was so many resources for it and the ROMS
Too bad I finally got a ROM working on it until after I got my new phone. Sigh.

ive got a shadow but im running 6.0 i want to update to 6.5 but not entirely sure how to go about that

I am a Chinese, and my phone because of Brush will not turn on, and a request for a T
Fat-mail to me thank you [email protected]

Tmobile Shadow and read and input Chinese
Hi,
I am new here.
I am trying to find out how to read and input Chinese for my Tmobile shadow..?
Thanks

I still have my Shadow....as a backup. I loved my Shadow. I believe I got my money's worth of use out of it. In fact, I found that I was running out of features to use on that thing. I switched over to the Touch Pro 2 when it came out (Aug 28 2009) to take advantage of the TMO 3G network, keyboard, and touchscreen. I've never got fully taken with the Touch Pro 2. It's a good phone, but just doesn't seem to scream "pick me up!". I now use a HTC HD2 since it came out on TMO (MAR 24 2010). It's darn good. The capacitive screen is awesome, but I still find myself missing the stylus from time to time. It's so difficult to select a tiny button with a finger! The processor speed is blazing fast. This is what all WinMo phones need for their processor. The 1 Ghz snapdragon processor lets me use the phone fast, like it's meant to be. It don't even have to remind myself anymore that it's basically a mobile computer.
But still, the T-Mobile Shadow is a great phone. I still pull it out from time to time to admire it's beauty. The Neo UI is VERY functional. I would say it's the precursor of TouchFlo 3D and Sense UI. It packs so much handy info with a great use of screen estate. Not to mention, the hardware looks beautiful! When I pull out this phone, people still ask me about it. The keyboard allows me to type amazingly fast! I remember my texts would just pound out because of how fast I could type on that 20 key keyboard. Last, but not the least, the navigational dpad/wheel. The phone has a pretty cool look to it. That circle looks techy at night. I used to browse the web a lot with the phone on Opera Mini. I loved navigating pages (going up/down) using the wheel. Why this dpad style isn't used more often, I'm not sure. That wheel was probably meant for the Neo UI. I never really used it for that. It just took too many wheel flicks to get Neo to go right or left in the pane. But, I absolutely loved the wheel in Opera Mini (just reiterating).
So what's my rating?
Sure, the T-Mobile Shadow is a bit slow sometimes. But it's fine piece of Windows Mobile equipment. It's probably one of the least appreciated Windows Mobile devices to ever reach mass-market. For all that has the phone now, be sure to visit All-Shadow.com
That website is the dedicated place to find ROMS, hacks, mods, etc. How many phone models have a dedicated website with that much useful info packed? Probably not many.
As for GPS, I used Google Maps with a small external GPS receiver that I carried with me. It worked great, and costed me only $20. It's super easy to set up, and the Shadow is plenty fast at getting GPS positions.
There isn't much thats missing from the Shadow for a mid-range smartphone user. It's simple, fun, and could be loved plenty. It just takes a little work to see what you want. Make it yours.
I never liked the Shadow 2. BIG Disappointment. It reeks of cheap plastic. The only thing I really liked about the Shadow 2 is the UMA calling. In fact, I might get a Shadow 2 for that feature. The slight bump in speed (processor/ram) just doesn't seem to be worth the difference between Shadow 1 and 2. I like the accelerometer on the Shadow 2. I haven't used it extensively, but how useful could that be except for pictures? I don't see much other use. Get the original Shadow folks! You'll be surprised at how good it looks.

still have it!!! best phone ever!!!

still have my shadow for a back up had some fun with it for some time #1 site allshadow

me favorite phone.

It was my first "smart" phone and I absolutely loved it. Sold it for an iPhone, hated it. Sold the iPhone for a G1, and though I love it, I still miss the Shadow. I got it back recently from my friend, unfortunately it's semi-bricked, and I need to get it fixed. I felt so happy holding it again, lol. It is probably the best phone I've ever used, apart from the slow hardware. My absolute favorite keyboard.

still have mine... went back to 2007 6.5 from shadow II

Att Pure reviews

I am looking to upgrade my phone but i am divided between ATT TP 2 and Pure. i have seen alot of reviews of TP2 but i havent seen any reviews of pure can someone guide me to the right place where i can read some reviews on Pure
I am looking for the feedback on the battery life as well since i dont really need a phone that i will be worrying about charging every few hours

Here are the first two videos I've come across
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/windows-mobile-65-att-htc-pure-unboxing-video
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-pure-windows-phone-hardware-tour-for-att
No 3.5mm jack, 3.2 screen the TP2 and Imagio have 3.6" screens, no rounded corners form factor, and no MediaFlow turner with kickstand antenna like the Imagio The phone comes with no headphones and a very big dongle adapter for headphones. This is a deal breaker for me. The Verizon Imagio keeps looking better and better... functionally and aesthetically.

I'm really liking the LEO, but at this point I'll probably get a PURE depending on the cost of the data plan, so let's get some reviews in here!

I will have mine on Wednesday and will post first impressions.
I upgraded from unlocked Touch Diamond for the microSD card slot, bigger memory, bigger screen. And alas - maybe I wont have to do the silly dance to keep screen turned on at the start of a call.
I may need some help getting rid of ATT bloatware.
DC, Orlando

I am only concerend about the on screen keyboard I hope I will be able to type on it like a iPhone

http://www.mobilitydigest.com/att-pure-review/

i just got my ATT pure will post some impressions

So the pure is the same with topaz eh? Pure is the USA version or what?

opensea said:
So the pure is the same with topaz eh? Pure is the USA version or what?
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The Pure is the USA At&t version of the Topaz. Body is a little different but internally identical.

Thanks guys for posting all the reviews... I went down and picked up one of these for my daughter today. This is a really nice phone, HTC has done a great job with this one. I also really like the body that ATT is using, I think it looks much better in person than it does in pictures. The other thing that impresses me is the speed, Manilla 3d runs smooth and fast.
I may have to go get one for myself..

We've just posted our review of the Pure here: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/HTC-Pure.htm . I've got to spend a few more days to a week with it before I write the final conclusion and talk about battery life. Nice device for the price though.

I just picked one up last night.
I was forced into getting the $30 Data plan after having the unlimited $19 plan for about 4 years. I'm coming from a FUZE to this
the build quality is very nice
the phone is slippery wish it had some contour or rubber on the back
screen is much nicer then FUZE but I'm still wanting bigger.
no 3.5mm jack no big deal
very light and thin
sounds louder with its side speakerphone (NJ laws while driving)
I miss the D-pad for one handed scrolling
Camera seems to take nice pics but
Bummer No Flash - I use to use the Flashlight app with the fuze
Haven't tried tethering to my Laptop yet which I use about once a week.I'm sure it works its in there
never really used the keyboard much on the FUZE so not much of an issue
I was going to hold out for the TP2 but at $150 more just not a good time with $ being scarce. I really just want a bigger screen maybe next year or another device.
trying to HARDSPL it but having problems and errors so I know it will be much better with a Energy rom on it when i get it
[*]one there.
Fuze for sale

A quick question. Do you all have the HTC app for using your phones as WiFI hotspots? It's called 'WiFi Router". Or did AT&T pull that off of the device? The coocked 6.5 ROMs have it in them and it's cool. I was playing halo while using my phone as the router on Edge. But since you ATT folk have US 3G on your Pure's then it'll be even better.
Take that Sprint MiFi.We get free MiFi with every WM phone Purchase.
One more Q. Can someone post up the Software information on the pohone?
OS Version:
Manila Version:
ROM Version:
ROM date:
Radio Version:

I read online that this phone has TouchFlo 3D 2.1 not 2.6, would it be possible to update?

You should easily be able to use the TF3D 2.5 from the HTC Leo

via a cab install or a new rom?

hothitter said:
via a cab install or a new rom?
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You have to update the new Rom just check out the rom development and you will get all the details there

I just updated to the Energy ROM Leo and love it
so much better in all ways then the stock rom that comes with the phone
and yes this has the WIFI router app and many other great apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562942
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very nice!!!!!

the only thing i am not happy about the ATT Pure is the on screen keyboard that is not meant to be with a finger

What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world...

What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world, no mather the price or release date!! Which phone would it be??
For me- Im currently looking at Toshiba TG03 or Toshiba K02 or NOKIA N900 !!!
And Im looking at selling my Touch HD for about 400-440 dollars , is that a good price, or should I ask more(phone is in good condition, screen has always had a screen protector, has a dent in uper right corner of phone(fell from a meter high), and VOL UP button doesnt work properly(plastic falling of)), a custom rom installed from xda-devs much faster than original!

i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?

I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made

ibsa03 said:
i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?
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I was also looking at a Leo - but dont you think that Winmo deserves something more powerfull?? and Im getting really bored of Windows mobile as OS!!! I want to have in my pocket a Multimedia Player with Wifi, Calling and SMS capabilitirs!!
Fallen Spartan said:
I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made
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I agree on that no xda support for both Toshibas, But Nokia just aint that full of bugs, and they give out firmware updates which fix problems! + n900 is running Maemo 5 (something interesting ) !!! by the way -- is it true that N900 can only be used with both hands?? (no portrait mode)

Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.

Sasimi said:
Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.
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Nice Idea!!
currently Im thinking to sell my HD for about 400-500USD and buy a Nokia E63 (about 260USD)

Hands down, I would go for one of these......no question, no competition!
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I'm looking at a "Leo" at the moment as my HD has a few problems..., though there seems to be a few issues with it at the moment, alot just seem to be firmware related and could be fixed with an official update from HTC, though there seems to be problems with the camera...??, hmm.... not sure, for me the wvga screen format is where it should be at !!, and that processor seems like it's more than capable, as well as a decent amount of RAM, there just needs to be more developers get behind WM, to combat the Iphone....., It's more about net surfing organizers calenders/ alarms.....etc for me, but it would be nice to have some sweet looking games similar to the Iphones, other than that I'm going to have to say the Iphone 3GS, only because of the OS, the phone is clearly not as good as some of HTC's finest...eg. HD2 (LEO), but the wealth of applications available is staggering, but...., no true multitasking..., still no decent camera, and I'm hearing people complain about call quality...?, and having to sync everything back to Itunes is going to **** me off !! ??.....I'm traditionally a PC guy, but am buying a Macbook pro early 2010 some time, specifically for using a music program "Logic", so I'm going to have to get used to the whole Itunes thing, and I spose it may sync a lil better, (though I've seen software available that will sync a WM device with apples OS with ease), So......, I spose if everything is rocksolid with the LEO, then the LEO.....Hmmm, other than that....IPhone 3GS, I can see people getting all worked up at the mere suggestion of an Iphone, but as far as the OS goes I think it's alot smoother, and they seem more established, lets hope the next cple of years see microsoft get right in there as well !!

For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.

Moandal said:
For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.
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yes, still so many of my favorite programs require stylus, sometimes I just prefer to use it !!

I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...

Bodisson said:
I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...
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You mean you dont like capacitive screen (leo has capacitive) all other HTC WM phones have resistive
I sold My HD yesterday at midnight for about 500USD (converted from LVL) Hd is still with me, cause I will install it n stuff n give it away at weekend!

well i just got my HD..and i love it (and it costs me much of my precious time )
maybe i would trade it for a Motorola Milestone (Droid)..i hope it didn't hear that ^^