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Hi, I have been watching with keen interest the development of the Universal. I had the original XDA and the XDA2 but have been waiting for this 3G device before I upgrade.
I have one on back order, but not with Expansys. I have been watching Expansys wondering if I should get one through them instead of waiting however when I phoned them for some technical info about 3G networks the sales individual did not know anything about the "UK networks"!!!
So, does anyone know if you can take an unlocked, uncofigured, JasJar (such as those being sold on Expansys) and just configure the settings for 3G, or is it far more complicated than that.
I am sure I read somewhere that 3G settings need to be configured by the network, unlike GPRS which I have easily configured for my voda sim card in my xdas.
Well if it can be configured, anyone know the settings for the JasJar to use vodafone 3G ??
Cheers, Numb
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
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n1, thats good to hear. But did u have to configure any settings for 3G ? or was the phone already configured, and if it was already configured it who by, Expansys ?
If they are unlocked presumably you have to configure it to your chosen network ?
Thx fer the reply tho, can't wait to get mine now, you lucky devil.
Cheers, Numb
to make a long stiry short: settings for gprs and umts/3g are the same, no need to change anything, if you have your vodafone gprs set you are ready to use 3g as well.
cheers, lutz
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:lol: n1 lutzh that is what I was after. Keeping my fingers crossed for early next week. Otherwise I may to try a different distributer.
Thx again for the heads up.
Cheers, Numb
Looking for help in getting 3G services running on my TyTnII (Kaiser).
I have a Vodafone version of this device, but running on Orange Network (currently testing the device for work). I have manually setup GPRS settings for Orange network and can connect fine, phone has E for Edge when in correct area, but can not get 3G at all.
Can I assume that this is down to the phone being some how locked down to Vodafone and not letting me use the 3G network on Orange. I have another one of these devices with a Vodafone sim card, and get full 3G straight away, even the G icon appears as 3G.
Any help however relevant would really be appericated.
Thanks
Pete
i dont believe they can be locked to edge at all
maybe the orange subscription is just not umts enabled
Coming to the problem from a different direction which may help.
I have an Orange SPV M5000 which I use on an orange PAYG sim card. This has never shown 3G on the display. A couple of days ago I unlocked the phone & put in my T-Mobile PAYG simcard which I have been using on an Orange SPV M1000 (only a max of £1 a day up to 30g of downloads)and straight away it showed the 3G sign on the display, so it's possable that your simcard does not alow 3G or it needs to be enabled.
My Orange PAYG simcard needed to be GPRS enabled when I wanted to start downloading data. Hope this helps. Regards John
Thanks for your help so far.
Hi Guys,
Just wanted to say thanks for your replays so far, certainly looking like problem with Orange, rather that phone.
I have contacted Orange after finding an article on their website about using 3G and it stating that you need a 3G device and 3G sim card.
Will let you know how I get on.
Thanks again.
Pete
orange does not allow 3G connections without first being enabled there end. Ive had the same problem some time ago.
I called Orange & they said I needed a new 3G sim card cost £1 which i bought. It came yesterday & i installed it & now I have the 3G symbol on the display.
Do I need to change any settings or numbers etc or are the old setings OK for 3G
JohnWB said:
I called Orange & they said I needed a new 3G sim card cost £1 which i bought. It came yesterday & i installed it & now I have the 3G symbol on the display.
Do I need to change any settings or numbers etc or are the old setings OK for 3G
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As far as I know the settings that work with GPRS on Orange should just work for 3g in your case.
wizzzard said:
As far as I know the settings that work with GPRS on Orange should just work for 3g in your case.
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Wizzard, you are correct, everything works fine, just faster.
I just recently bought a Rogers HTC Magic, rooted the phone, and unlocked it. Everything seems to work completely fine. At the moment however, I seem to be having an issue with a Bell Mobility sim card. Bell's HSPA sim works fine, and I seem to be able to use voice and data ok, but the problem lies in that their seems to be a roaming symbol ("R") on my reception bar. Im using the phone in my local calling area which is somewhat misleading to me.
Im using MyHero 2.0.5 ROM at the moment. Does anyone know why this is happening? Thanks in advance!
Agreed
I'm doing the same thing. I'm running cyanogens roms and I get the same thing. Best I can tell is that this is normal on the magic. Just be careful if you live near the border like I do.
I figured this was normal too. I guess i'll try other SIM cards to see what they say as well, thanks!
Ya I also have this phone running on Bell, wish I could get rid of the roaming. It also asks if I want to connect once in a while too.
Shouldn't the romaing be dictated by the sim? I have a bell sim, on the bell network, why do I get the roaming icon? is there a way to change the phone so it doesn't think it's a rogers and not roaming or something?
Are you sure you have the Bell APN Settings and not the Rogers Settings in the phone?
Settings -> Wireless Control -> Mobile Network Settings -> Access Point Names
If it says Rogers you're Roaming on the Rogers Network.
I put in the bell APN. I don't think we can even roam on rogers network, wouldn't work. Either way, it's the Bell APN.
I don't have a clue as to the differences between Bell and Rogers sims... but I can tell you that my HTC Magic, on Rogers, with a Rogers sim (duh), running Amon_RA's most excellent RAv1.6.2H only shows roaming when actually roaming.
I was in the US yesterday and watched it flip from a Rogers tower to ATT. I was watching to make sure it was not using any data when roaming on a US network. The symbol, lockscreen info and the carrier listed in the status pulldown all were updated correctly.
It might have something to do with the ROM you are running. However I bet that given the phone came from Rogers, it has some carrier info buried somewhere that it is comparing to the carrier you are on (Bell) and triggering the roaming status.
If you disable data when roaming in the settings menu, what does it do? If it disables data, then the phone thinks it is roaming, which would support my carrier data mixup theory.
I will try a different rom on the phone. Unless someone knows for sure what I can do to fix this.
If you disable roaming there is no data, because once in a while it prompts to connect, if you say no, you get nothing. Sometimes my wife must accidentally hit no (its her phone, she probably says no cause shes not sure what it does). I just want to make it so she does not get the prompt ever (settings are all set).
I have a rogers HTC Magic (unlocked) I'm using a fido sim, it thinks its roaming as-well but I have only fido apn settings. It only roams with certain roms and radio's. I can use alot of roms eg. cyanogen,Hero HOFO 308,GYD 2.1.1 without roaming but when I update radio and flash cursorsense roms it thinks it is roaming. I have to enable data roaming in order to get a 3G signal. as a fido user I dial *#123# to see if I'm in my local zone zone. A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
I have the AT&T Tilt, not running the AT&T ROM. I've tested a few different SIM cards on my phone and here's what I've found:
Rogers: Roaming works correctly. In Canada, no roaming indicator, in the USA, roaming is indicated correctly.
Telus & Bell (HSPA): Roaming indicator always on.
I've heard that this may be due to the SIM card listing more than one Mobile Network Code: 302361, 302653, 302657 (original Telus CDMA networks, not compatible with the phone or any kind of SIM-based network so it's uncertain why it would be on the SIM card), PLUS the HSPA network code 302880. It's possible that the phone is not reading that far into the list on the SIM and therefore does not know that 302880 is a home network.
Tilt 2 Roaming Triangle and telus
I'm on Telus and have a Tilt2. The original ROM that came with the unit didn't show the roaming triangle. I have attached some screen captures of the ROM. I've attached a copy of the registry (Remove the .cab it was the only way I could get it to upload).
I'm now running Jackos rom and it does show the roaming triangle.
Hopefully somebody can find where the settings are located and hopefully it's contained in the registry.
Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
rogers htc dream unlocked now on roaming?
i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
hol17 said:
Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
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i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
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If you aren't outside of Canada and you get the roaming symbol; they can not charge you roaming fees.
Roger and Telus PLMN Compared
I'm not sure if this will help,
I have attached a picture of the PLMN from a Rogers sim and a Telus sim
Maybe someone knows how to adjust the information on these lists.
Dave778 said:
A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
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The phone companies in Canada must be less uptight about unlocked/rooted phones
If you asked those questions to a t-mobile or at&t rep, they would straight up refuse to talk to you
American cell phone companies are still stuck in the "Ma Bell" mentality, where everything that touches their network must be under their control
anyone figure out a fix? I'm having these roaming issues as well on the bell network with unlocked at&t phone.
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
BiOs2k said:
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
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I searched around to a fairly moderate extent and I have found many people with the same problem, yet I can't find any resolution to this issue.
I'm not even sure where the issue lays. Is it with the hardware/firmware? SIM card? Windows Mobile? Is it the rilphone.dll? or maybe some registry entry. Maybe it's on the Bell network side?
Someone told me they put a Rogers SIM into their Fuze and it didn't show up as roaming, yet when they put a Bell SIM in, it's back to roaming. So what's the difference between Bell and Rogers?
Here's a question for anyone who has this problem, when you boot android does it still show as roaming?
Hi.
I have m919 T-Mobile Galaxy s4 but I'm with other carrier (Wind Canada).
I spent yesterday in environment where I didn't had coverage for most of the day, but i haven't gotten it back yet. Sounds really weird as it might be not connected to the fact at all. I have 4G connection active, which means that I have internet, but it keeps 'searching' for service and I can't Call/Text anyone, neither I can receive calls or texts. Instead of the bar at the top showing how good coverage i have it just shows a crossed out circle icon.
I've tried reboots, keeping my phone off for 30mins without battery, taking out sim and putting it back in, changing network modes and resetting APN (all from settings panel).
Have anyone experienced something like that and how do I fix it? It was working perfectly for last couple of months and the phone didn't get any damage yesterday neither.
Well. "I have m919 T-Mobile Galaxy s4 but I'm with other carrier (Wind Canada)". Im not the smartest person in the world but if u phone is locked to T-Mobile, it doesnt gonna work with other carrier if no is unlocked by IMEI for example.
Hey everyone,
I have a s5 that i bought in Greece while i was there. i have used it in Greece, Istanbul, and Spain with no problems, however when i returned to Canada i cant seem to get it to connect to the data network here. I am on Fido and i have tried all the various APN configurations that i could find on their support site. i have even left the phone with the store for a few hours to try and get it working and they had no luck. i know that its not teh network or the sim card because i have tried the sim card in a few other phones and it works fine.
Now this is the part that is somewhat confusing to me, I can call and sent text messages.... but anything that requires data, no dice.....
Anyone have any ideas?
Samsung support has been no help BTW. as soon as they see that its a European device they essentially say Oh, i dont have to do anything, call Samsung Europe... obviously that would be a really expensive call.
I had a similar problem with my S3 before and the way I fixed it was to find the correct APN settings and create a new APN setting page and fill it out, dont edit one that is already given to you but create another one and fill it with the correct apn settings which you can get from the fido stores. Have you had any problems with calling and receiving calls ? Let me know if this works.
i have done everything that i can think of as far as apn settings goes. i have reset to default apn settings, delete all the apns, and manually entered ones from customer service, deleted those and nothing... it seems like its an apn related problem, because i can see the network. in the about phone and status section i can see that there is an LTE network available, but my phone just doesnt want to connect to it..... ARGHHH
colinjlyon said:
Hey everyone,
I have a s5 that i bought in Greece while i was there. i have used it in Greece, Istanbul, and Spain with no problems, however when i returned to Canada i cant seem to get it to connect to the data network here. I am on Fido and i have tried all the various APN configurations that i could find on their support site. i have even left the phone with the store for a few hours to try and get it working and they had no luck. i know that its not teh network or the sim card because i have tried the sim card in a few other phones and it works fine.
Now this is the part that is somewhat confusing to me, I can call and sent text messages.... but anything that requires data, no dice.....
Anyone have any ideas?
Samsung support has been no help BTW. as soon as they see that its a European device they essentially say Oh, i dont have to do anything, call Samsung Europe... obviously that would be a really expensive call.
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Does your provider use the 2600 frequency (band 7) where you live?, if not you can`t get 4G mate because the rest of the Canadian bands are not supported bij the G900F.
i get that, but im not getting ANY data. i should at the very least get 3G. the 900F has both of Fido's GSM bands 850, 1900
colinjlyon said:
i get that, but im not getting ANY data. i should at the very least get 3G. the 900F has both of Fido's GSM bands 850, 1900
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Did you try a friends simcard?, maybe yours is faulty somehow. Or maybe a data factory reset/reflash the stock rom may solve the issue.
gee2012 said:
Did you try a friends simcard?, maybe yours is faulty somehow. Or maybe a data factory reset/reflash the stock rom may solve the issue.
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Sorry, i kinda posted this like a noob would. i should have known better. i have tried the sim card in my old phone that i had before a samsung galaxy s2 skyrocket and it works fine.
I just posted this on the fido forums.
Hey everyone,
I have a samsung galaxy s5 that i bought in Greece and i am not able to get it to connect to the Data network of fido for some reason. i am completly stumped as to why. i paid quite a bit for it so it would really suck to get it home to canada and not be able to use it,..
So, before i get suggestions on things to do that i have already done, BEFORE i bought the SM-G900F (European factory unlocked and not region locked) i made sure that the bands would match up on the phone. its pretty much impossible to buy a phone that wont work in north america anymore. LTE is the only big question, but fido uses B1 and the phone has it.
I have used the phone with no issues in Greece where i purchased it, and also in Istanbul, italy, and Japan. I first thought that it was an APN setting issue, but i have been down every route as far as APN settings go. i have reset the apn settings to default on the sim card, nothing, i have manually entered the apn settings from the "how to configure an unlocked phone page" on this site and nothing, i have deleted all the apns manually then only entered the one APN for internet and mms, nothing.
after that didnt work i took thinks to the next level and did a factory data reset and still nothing.... then i took it one level further and re-installed the phones firmware right from baseline by pluging it into kies on the computer and download mode and all that good stuff..... nothing.
The strange part is that i know that the phone can see the network, because if you go under about phone and status, it will show the available network type, be it LTE or WCDMA, it simply says network status "disconnected"
I can send and recieve calls and SMS messages, but no data what so ever, mms, or internet.
PLEASE HELP!!!