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Winampaq skins

Does anyone use Winampaq? If so, have you managed to use any of the Winamp 2.x skins?
I'm having trouble trying to use them. Basically, I put the relevant skin (.wsz) file in a folder, but when I use the browse function on Winampaq, the list only shows the folders and not what is contained within each folder
Any ideas?
Many thanx

change the wsz extention to zip and unzip the files to a dir
and point to that dir using winampaq
and they all work at least all the skins i've tried

Thanks Rudegar, but you must excuse my ignorance. I have zipped the wsz file, but I can't extract it directly to my XDA2. I have to extract it to my desktop first, before syncing the file to the XDA2. But once extracted to the desktop, it is a .wsz again so zipping it hasn't made any difference.
Could you explain to me step by step how you do it, please?
I'm using "StuffIt" to zip the file, but I guess the results would be the same as if using "WinZip".
Once again, please excuse the ignorance, but I really want to change the skin as the default one isn't very pleasing to the eye!
Many thanks

you have to CHANGE the extention of the file
before
skinname.WSZ
after
skinname.zip
you have to edit the file name not zip the file
wsz is just a zipped file to begin with
after you change the extention you can just copy out the stuff from inside it
i use total commander both on my pc and on my xda because it makes it easy to work with zip files and other things, it sees zip files like dir's and you can copy stuff from inside them without any problems

Many thanks for your help, Rudegar. I will give it a shot...

HD2 cab install

hello guys, i dont own an hd2 yet but ill buy one this month but i have a question i want to add some cabs file on my device when i get. My question is i have download some cabs BUT when i open the winrar i dont get any cab file, all i get is some files that has bunch of numbers and one of them says "_setup.xml" so what should i do? should i directly put the winrar file on my hd2? since i dont get any cab file inside the winrar?? and if there's a cab file inside the winrar and i press the button "extract here" should i just upload the cab file only to my hd2 right??
Hope you guys can help me.
Thank you.

Hi.
A CAB file is a compressed installer file for mobile phones.
If you open it with winrar, you will see all the files it contains.
Just copy the original .cab file to your phone.
Click on the .cab file, and it will run the installer, and install the program on your phone.
You can choose to install to the main memory or the sd card.

Yeah - as above. What you're calling a "winrar" file is the cab file.

Extract a cab
Ok, I know this isn't the original question but...
is it possible to extract a .cab file - i mean to extract all the different files that make up the program , all the .exe .dll .ico etc etc. Wanting to do this to help me reverse-engineer a couple of omnia 2 cabs that don't work.

kinsago said:
Ok, I know this isn't the original question but...
is it possible to extract a .cab file - i mean to extract all the different files that make up the program , all the .exe .dll .ico etc etc. Wanting to do this to help me reverse-engineer a couple of omnia 2 cabs that don't work.
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yes extract the files with winrar

ohhh okok i get it now.. so i just donwload thw winrar which is the cab file and i copy it to my hd2. thanks guys

Richy99 said:
yes extract the files with winrar
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Tried that, all I get are 10 files. One of them is _setup.xml, the others are numbered files.
I've attached a screen capture of the files so you can see what they are.

kinsago said:
Tried that, all I get are 10 files. One of them is _setup.xml, the others are numbered files.
I've attached a screen capture of the files so you can see what they are.
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Yes that's what you would expect as they are the cab install files.
If they don't mean anything are you sure you know what you're doing?

That's what I'm trying to find out. I assume that the WM program works in a similar way to windows program in that its a collection of files (exe, ico, dll, cfg so on so forth) that get installed in the appropriate places on the device. If so, how do you 'unpack' these files from the setup files

use a cab manager program. I don't so I can't recommend, but wincecab manager sound familiar. u can use them to create cabs of your tweaks, install files and such.

it seems that you have never used windows mobile (just copy the winrar file into the device and run it from the device)

hoss_n2 said:
it seems that you have never used windows mobile (just copy the winrar file into the device and run it from the device)
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I'm not trying to install a cab file (which the first post was about) I'm trying to decompile the omnia 2 video editor to get it to run on the HD2 but instead of starting a new thread, I asked on this one because it seemed (partially) relevant.
BTW, I've got the cab 'extracted' so thanks - no for the difficult part...

[Q] automatically generate .dat file from a folder structure

Hi, I have a folder with a couple of folders in it that each contain a whole lot of files. I want to cook this folder (with its subfolders) in a rom and place it in the device root folder.
I wonder if there is a utility that can automatically generate a app.dat file from this folder?

Why not Zip it up with an unkown extension, then unzip with Mort (can handle unkown zip extensions).
Using initflashfiles file operations slows up filesystem.
(using unkown filetypes and folders does not)
Sorry if i sound like a broken record to some.

appelflap said:
Hi, I have a folder with a couple of folders in it that each contain a whole lot of files. I want to cook this folder (with its subfolders) in a rom and place it in the device root folder.
I wonder if there is a utility that can automatically generate a app.dat file from this folder?
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you could make a cab with wince cab mgr(it supports drag n drop of folders) then convert the cab to ext pkg or run it in customization.

twopumpchump said:
you could make a cab with wince cab mgr(it supports drag n drop of folders) then convert the cab to ext pkg or run it in customization.
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Brilliant! Thanks

twopumpchump said:
you could make a cab with wince cab mgr(it supports drag n drop of folders) then convert the cab to ext pkg or run it in customization.
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For a more Freeware solution (but without the easier Drag and Drop support)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530710
Extenddir Cab Maker.

Noonski said:
For a more Freeware solution (but without the easier Drag and Drop support)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530710
Extenddir Cab Maker.
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Thanks, fortunately wince cab maker has a generous trial period. For that one time I have to put all copilot map files in a cab, it is the best option. Thanks anyway

Cabs suck, they're a pain in the butt to make and take forever to install. Just do what Noonski said and make a zip file. They install in seconds, whereas big cabs can take minutes. Here's the basic format I use; this zip file goes to the device root, which is what you want (you need the right # of \'s to get it to work). First, I have a zip file named 'root.zip'. Then, I name the mortscript Unziproot.mscr. Here's the script:
Code:
UnZipALL("\Windows\root.zip","\\")
To get it to execute, I add this to an add2config.txt file:
Code:
EXEC:\WINDOWS\Unziproot.mscr
Zip files are a helluva lot easier to make than cabs; I do it all the time with total commander on the device, and it takes just a few seconds. They're trivial to edit, too. I've attached a zip file that has the add2config.txt, the mortscript, and also a simple mortscript package that works well. Seriously, just listen to Noonski.
Edit: Make sure the mortscript doesn't have any spaces in it. If you name it "Unzip root.mscr", it won't run during customization (been there, done that, lol).

Hey Noonski.. how about we make a script, or an executable that we can plug in a kitchen batch file right before IMGFS gets created, that can look at at an initflashfiles.dat, analyze it, line by line, then create a zip with all the files its supposed to move then copy an almost blank initflashfiles.dat back in the "dump" directory. We could even do this in mort for windows!

NRGZ28 said:
Hey Noonski.. how about we make a script, or an executable that we can plug in a kitchen batch file right before IMGFS gets created, that can look at at an initflashfiles.dat, analyze it, line by line, then create a zip with all the files its supposed to move then copy an almost blank initflashfiles.dat back in the "dump" directory. We could even do this in mort for windows!
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TPC mentioned doing something like that in the extendir thread. I will say this, I've tried to install my entire start menu with a zip file, and the bugger wouldn't work. The script worked fine after bootup, but it wouldn't run during customization. I don't know what the deal was. I only tried it a couple of times, though, but I don't think that I just did something really dumb.

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TPC mentioned doing something like that in the extendir thread. I will say this, I've tried to install my entire start menu with a zip file, and the bugger wouldn't work. The script worked fine after bootup, but it wouldn't run during customization. I don't know what the deal was. I only tried it a couple of times, though, but I don't think that I just did something really dumb.
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That should be an easy thing to fix...

yeah i have actually made zips for every file that goes somewhere besides windows, you wont believe the amount of space this saves and how much faster your rom is it is alot of work, one way that makes it a lil easier is to make a list of all the files that are in your zips then have your .bat delete them from dump before imgfsfromdump.exe runs in kitchen....but we could do it better and easier im sure if we just all put our heads together

Wow good idea, that's taking it into a whole new level, automating it.
It's about time this method creeped it's way from the method of a few to something that everyone can take advantage of.
It's one of the most underused methods for a bit more speed, instead of improving filesystem cache settings, reducing the stress on the file system.
(totally made the above up, I just threw a few interesting words i have been reading here and there, before people start thinking I actually understand the file system at a low level) I just know from experience and just doing it that there's advantages.
It's batching beyond my expertise (low level but creative ).
But i'm pretty sure there's a few good men for the job.
HowdyKeith and RoryB come to mind when it comes to Mort Syntax and reading values from files.
Their Batching knowledge should also be good.
But if this is do-able, then why not also not try to get rid of .provxml files to, and speed up the first boot time. Provxml is the second killer of speedy first boots.

Noonski said:
Wow good idea, that's taking it into a whole new level, automating it.
It's about time this method creeped it's way from the method of a few to something that everyone can take advantage of.
It's one of the most underused methods for a bit more speed, instead of improving filesystem cache settings, reducing the stress on the file system.
(totally made the above up, I just threw a few interesting words i have been reading here and there, before people start thinking I actually understand the file system at a low level) I just know from experience and just doing it that there's advantages.
It's batching beyond my expertise (low level but creative ).
But i'm pretty sure there's a few good men for the job.
HowdyKeith and RoryB come to mind when it comes to Mort Syntax and reading values from files.
Their Batching knowledge should also be good.
But if this is do-able, then why not also not try to get rid of .provxml files to, and speed up the first boot time. Provxml is the second killer of speedy first boots.
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it would be awesome to have a tool that reads initflashfiles.dat from dump, puts all the files that go in other folders besides windows in a zip file also would be nice to be able to select a list of files to go into extendir\windir as well.

Noonski said:
Why not Zip it up with an unkown extension, then unzip with Mort (can handle unkown zip extensions).
Using initflashfiles file operations slows up filesystem.
(using unkown filetypes and folders does not)
Sorry if i sound like a broken record to some.
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Hi Noonski, I think these are really great ideas. One question about your comment on iniflashfiles slowing down the system, are you referring to the startup time on first boot? Because I fail to see where the speed would be effected in general terms as the only function of the iniflashfiles is to specify where files get placed other than windows. Once they are moved in to the correct places the files is useless. So I don't see how the speed could be any different than with a zip other than the customization time being reduced. Of course I could be wrong. lol

Meant it more in the way that you then do not actually need that file to be in Rom, and therefore in the Windows folder. That's where i meant the most gain was.
Not sure if there's any other extra difference between a file that has been copied from Windows to a sub-folder or an extracted one, other then that it won't be read only and not present in Windows.

Well if you have a zip file with folders and files inside that folders
and you make a script that copies these folders to the corresponding dirs on the device you accomplish what you are asking here isn't?
twopumpchump said:
it would be awesome to have a tool that reads initflashfiles.dat from dump, puts all the files that go in other folders besides windows in a zip file also would be nice to be able to select a list of files to go into extendir\windir as well.
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Hmmm if every file in a rom was moved without leaving a copy on the windows root I wonder how many files would be eliminated. Im guessing quite a few. Im thinking the only way this would work would be for a mod to be made for EVK allowing all the initflashfiles.dat info and app.dat info to be compiled and a zip created from them.( Not sure a simple zip could properly place that many files?) Then the files placed inside the zip would need to be deleted before the rom is compiled. Theoretically I think its possible.
@L26
Yeah your right. However I think the biggest thing to look at is there a easier way than doing it all by hand It would take forever to take every file moved by the .dat files and make a zip. Not to mention updating the files for new versions would be a PITA

aruppenthal said:
Hmmm if every file in a rom was moved without leaving a copy on the windows root I wonder how many files would be eliminated. Im guessing quite a few. Im thinking the only way this would work would be for a mod to be made for EVK allowing all the initflashfiles.dat info and app.dat info to be compiled and a zip created from them.( Not sure a simple zip could properly place that many files?) Then the files placed inside the zip would need to be deleted before the rom is compiled. Theoretically I think its possible.
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amazing, check my post and scripts in this same forum ... I was trying to do the same (only with shortcuts for now): cook shortcuts without leaving double files in windows folder, so I remove all shortcuts from the kitchen and once cooked I create the provxml with mortscript reading an ini file and inject the provxml files to the kitchen and the cook again. Of course I only include files present in the ROM. How can I avoid cooking twice?. the script also zips and copies all the files that will be needed for the scripts that run at first boot, including the files only if the modules are in the kitchen.
May be a mod in EVK to runwait scripts before creating the nbh could open a lot of new ways of cooking without using windows directory.
@noonski, do you care taking a look at my script building the provxml file? I am pretty sure you will have lots of suggestions on how to progress further.

cruiserrr said:
amazing, check my post and scripts in this same forum ... I was trying to do the same (only with shortcuts for now): cook shortcuts without leaving double files in windows folder, so I remove all shortcuts from the kitchen and once cooked I create the provxml with mortscript reading an ini file and inject the provxml files to the kitchen and the cook again. Of course I only include files present in the ROM. How can I avoid cooking twice?. the script also zips and copies all the files that will be needed for the scripts that run at first boot, including the files only if the modules are in the kitchen.
May be a mod in EVK to runwait scripts before creating the nbh could open a lot of new ways of cooking without using windows directory.
@noonski, do you care taking a look at my script building the provxml file? I am pretty sure you will have lots of suggestions on how to progress further.
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isnt the simplest way just to go to your windows folder on your phone and copy Start Menu folder to your pc, create a list of the files that are in that folder and use .bat to delete them while cooking, zip that folder up and put it in kitchen or sdcard and use .mscr to unzip to windows directory at first boot? you only have to cook once this way

twopumpchump said:
isnt the simplest way just to go to your windows folder on your phone and copy Start Menu folder to your pc, create a list of the files that are in that folder and use .bat to delete them while cooking, zip that folder up and put it in kitchen or sdcard and use .mscr to unzip to windows directory at first boot? you only have to cook once this way
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well, do not want to go offtopic of this post. The idea is to cook automatically with no errors. My method cooks only what is needed without putting files to windows folder. Basically I only have to run twice when changing modules included. If it is only about changing icons, order, etc I simply run the script and cook. If it is about customization I would certainly do like you say (I have done it many times in the past). If it is about cooking should be more automated. Is complex to build but now I only define the INI files parameters: icon, parameter, folder, order... (I have not touched the mortscript since I completed it). Anyway, my building method as its own post. I just found similar ideas behind in this thread and tought they could converge.

how do i install files in a folder and out of the folder is registry file?

how do i install files in a folder and out of the folder is registry file?
when i down load a file. some of them come not as a cab file but it comes it contains a folder and a registry file out of the folder. i believe folder contains program file. where do i put which and where? can u help.

tazwik said:
how do i install files in a folder and out of the folder is registry file?
when i down load a file. some of them come not as a cab file but it comes it contains a folder and a registry file out of the folder. i believe folder contains program file. where do i put which and where? can u help.
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What are you trying to install?...and where? I am sorry if I am miss understanding you but it sounds like you have a file with a reg file and another folder named files? is this right?

something like that. when i down load a file its not a cab file.it is a zip file. when i unzip. it has a folder with program with some files in the folder, but out of the folder or root directory there is 2to 3 files look like reg file. i do not know where to place these file.

tazwik said:
something like that. when i down load a file its not a cab file.it is a zip file. when i unzip. it has a folder with program with some files in the folder, but out of the folder or root directory there is 2to 3 files look like reg file. i do not know where to place these file.
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Could you link me to the file so I can see it?

im tryin to install it in to my htc hd2 phone. its a program i downloaded. from xda. like camara hack. ther is a folder and files on the root directory. in the folder though there is a camara icon or program.

tazwik said:
im tryin to install it in to my htc hd2 phone. its a program i downloaded. from xda. like camara hack. ther is a folder and files on the root directory. in the folder though there is a camara icon or program.
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Post the file or link me to where you got it please. I want to make sure I give you good info so it works.

sounds like a cracked app, where you get the prog folder and a reg file to crack it.

samsamuel said:
sounds like a cracked app, where you get the prog folder and a reg file to crack it.
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I thought so as well till he\she said they got it on xda, that made me think maybe a kitchen ext package

The cab files can be opened with winzip on your PC. The contents of a cab file is usually an xml file, icon file and other files for installation. Are you sure you are not opening a cab file in winzip?

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I thought so as well till he\she said they got it on xda, that made me think maybe a kitchen ext package
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ahh yea.that makes sense.

ok for example. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611007
CUSTOM-djet-CameraSettingsPatch , it is a rar file costum patch. when i down load it has a folder and a files where do i place the folder and where do i place the files on my THC HD2

Thats an OEM package for use in kitchens when cooking ROMS. You cant install it to a running system. (Well, not in that form anyway)

tazwik said:
ok for example. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611007
CUSTOM-djet-CameraSettingsPatch , it is a rar file costum patch. when i down load it has a folder and a files where do i place the folder and where do i place the files on my THC HD2
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I made the files into a cab for you.

zelendel said:
I made the files into a cab for you.
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What does that one do exactly?

sirphunkee said:
What does that one do exactly?
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From the look of the reg it enables one of the hidden functions in the camera. I thought most cooks enabled all the functions when they cooked up the rom but could be wrong. I know I do

zelendel said:
From the look of the reg it enables one of the hidden functions in the camera. I thought most cooks enabled all the functions when they cooked up the rom but could be wrong. I know I do
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Gotcha, thanks man! Just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything I don't already have

icons
can u help me with one more thing. i downloaded some icons. it does not have any other files but icons and album file. when i place the file into the windows directory. gives me an message that it can not be overitten due to not enough space and file is being used. how do i change go around it.

thks jelendel. for making file in to cab.

similar problems/questions
most cab files/apps i download and install are very straight forward and I save to storage card and there are right there on my "start" screen. others I download and I cant find them? I look through the file explorer but either cant find them or dont know what to do if I do find the file.
example, egg timer 1.0 -I can find it listed on "remove programs" page page so I know I got it. but how do I get it to a more 'usable' location.
another example. I want to get the Bluetooth toggle (BTtoggle) from pocketnow site. I downloaded the app, then it says I need to edit my registry (I understand the dangers of this) at
"HKLM\software\HTC\Manilla" and change the value of HomeLSKPath to the path to your BTtoggle.exe .....etc.....
First time editing registry, so sounds like I need to get a registry editor. I looked for a free one. CeRegEdit version 5.2.exe file. looks like it downloaded ok but I cant find on device??
LASTLY, I use CoOkies home editor and I really like it, but does that mean I cant do other changes/app installs to any HTC sense items/lock screen/home screen/etc? thanks for reading this far....steve
Or if you know of easier to get bluetooth toggle or any kind of timer applications so I dont burn food at the fire station, feel free to reccomend...Thanks

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Or if you know of easier to get bluetooth toggle or any kind of timer applications so I dont burn food at the fire station, feel free to reccomend...Thanks
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Aloha, and just because you're in civil service like that, I'll give you a hand with this one here...but it's usually best to open a new thread with a bunch of questions like that. You can just edit your post above to just say "moved to new thread", and then copy all that you wrote into a new thread you start...you'll probably get more views/responses that way too
These cabs will give you a toggle for bluetooth, wifi, and a reset button. Once you run the cab, you can find them in your start menu, but they're most useful when you assign them to one of the quicklink spots (on your home tab), just like you would any other program.
P.S. you'll find a lot more useful stuff for your new phone right here in these forums, and 99% of it is free, and known to work on the HD2 (unless stated otherwise). Start HERE and HERE

Determining package install location--can it be done?

WM 6.5: Is it possible to predetermine an EXT/OEM package's install location to a place other than the Windows folder (e.g., Program Files), in the interests of organization and browsing speed?
Thank you.

yes it can be done... but not cooking them a friend do this:
he makes a EXT pkg with a Mortscript file that runs at startup... that file runs a exe file in the storage card that uncompress a TGZ file in the directory you want then the same exe deletes the start up file
hard isnt it? its just imagination

Everything in the \files folder of an EXT goes into windows. If you want things copied to another location, you can do it with the app.dat file. Or, you can put all the files in either a .cab or a .zip file, and just install the cab during customization or use a mortscript to unzip the zip file to whereever you want (zips are a lot faster than cabs and are easier to create/edit, but you need mortscript cooked in). But, you're better off having things run out of \windows most of the time. If you have two copies of a program, you're just wasting memory. You can create an EXT for something like TCPMP that puts it into \program files\tcpmp, but what's the point if the version that's sitting in \windows works just as well? Also, if you just work out of \windows, you can convert the dll's, exe's and mui's that might be present in the package to modules, which usually gives you an app that boots up faster. Some things don't work out of \windows, so it takes experimentation, and not all files work so well as modules, which requires more experimentation. But, I would say that putting things in different directories just to be (or seem) organized isn't always a great idea. If you're dead-set on doing it, then install the apps with a cab or a zip file, because it will save rom memory and limit the number of rom files, which is always a good thing.

Thank you both--your post was especially informative Farmer Ted.