Hello everyone,
Further to my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455840, I am using a now slightly old version of Yevgeny's WM6.1 ROMs on my 614c.
One of the few problems with this ROM, which is otherwise great, is that it does not allow concurrent voice and data usage on 3G. The original HP WM6.0 ROMs do allow this and it was a big plus to be able to stay online when the phone rings.
With Yevgeny's ROM v1.6 (and actually I think his newest one is v1.4 rev 1.2, don't ask me about the numbering), the data connection is dropped as soon as the voice connection is made.
I was in Moscow last year a few times and there was no 3G network (just EDGE), so I guess maybe Yevgeny has not himself noticed this problem.
Is anyone using a WM6.1 ROM that DOES allow you to keep your 3G data connection open when making or receiving a voice call?
I use last ROM from Yevg001 WM6.1 20270 rev 1.2 FIX with Manila 2D and data connection is always on (i use push to mail service). I have no probrem with dropping connection during calls.
sergiorus, this is good news. Are you certain that the data connection is remaining open? For example, do new mails arrive while you are on the phone, or you can navigate to non-cached pages in your web browser during calls?
For me, with the older ROM, the data connection is suspended as soon as a call is initiated or received.
I have just called from my home number to mobile and during this call downloaded ephemerides for GPS and updated Manila weather. All correct.
Sergorius thank you very much for testing this... it sounds like a good result. May I also ask you two other questions?
1) Are you using radio firmware 0.77 or 0.88 (notice on the blue start-up screen)?
2) Do you have the "call waiting problem", which was introduced in 0.88?
To test for the call waiting problem, without the help of another person, call yourself using your ipaq and begin to leave yourself a voice message (I usually count numbers). While you are talking to your voicemail, create a waiting call, by calling your ipaq from your home number. Continue to talk to your voicemail for a few seconds while you hear the beeps in your ear, then clear down on your home line.
When you listen to the voicemail that you left yourself, you will hear your voice at first, then notice that your voice was muted while the incoming call was waiting. This is the call waiting problem.
To work around this problem, which for me made my ipaq unusable, I downgraded my radio firmware to 0.77.
I'd be very interested in your results...
1) I use radio firmware 0.88
2) Omg, just tested, I have this problem too.
I tell about this problem to Yevg001, maybe he know how to fix it.
I work in a company wich has about 90 of this phones and , yes, all have the same problem. (call waiting)
We have FW 0.88.
Please if you find a solution, could you post it?
Thanks in advance
Dan
Dan, see my post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479288
There is a solution in sight.
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I have MDA tmo (US). My radio ROM is 1.13.10.
While i am using streaming audio (http://di.fm), i cannot receive any phone calls and will not receive "missed call" notification either.
Is this "by design" or radio Rom issue? does anyone have the same issue with different ROM???
tokuro said:
I have MDA tmo (US). My radio ROM is 1.13.10.
While i am using streaming audio (http://di.fm), i cannot receive any phone calls and will not receive "missed call" notification either.
Is this "by design" or radio Rom issue? does anyone have the same issue with different ROM???
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this issue is quite wide spreaded on polish pdaclub.pl forum, however in my case it works flawlessly. i've started downloading abt. 500 KB file via GPRS straight from Wizard and then called from another mobile. i could pick up this connection and after that PIE just asked me if i'd like to resume file downloading.
maybe this 'bug' depends on network, not neccessary on hardware...?
thx... you do have a newer radio rom. It'll be interesting to know how other ROM may work...
I think this is network issues and not phone. It depends on your carrier.
benfica88 said:
I think this is network issues and not phone. It depends on your carrier.
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It is not a operator/network issue*. The same part of the network does not know simultanously that the GPRS is actually downloading at that instant AND also terminating a call. The two things are asynchronous contexts.
It's the handset radio/OS that handles the switch and pausing (if it's a class B device) of GPRS when a call comes in. This sounds like something that will be fixed/made less flakey in newer revisions.
(*although that's not to say that the behaviour will not be slightly different on various networks)
well, i was under that impression because every phone ive had from nokia to motorola to htc has this problem.cant receive a call while data is being downloaded.
eva_d said:
this issue is quite wide spreaded on polish pdaclub.pl forum, however in my case it works flawlessly. i've started downloading abt. 500 KB file via GPRS straight from Wizard and then called from another mobile. i could pick up this connection and after that PIE just asked me if i'd like to resume file downloading.
maybe this 'bug' depends on network, not neccessary on hardware...?
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Samehere with Qtek 2.18 NL ROM on Dutch T-Mobile network: when i start downloading and i receive a incoming call, i can just answer the phone and the download is interrupted. When i end the call, i can select to continue download.
Sorry to bring back an old issue, but I think this is a ROM issue, I think on the custom 2.17 ROM it worked fine but I dont remmber for sure. THis is a big issue.
tokuro, you mentioned that you listen to streaming radio using GPRS/EDGE. Are you doing this without the audio skipping/rebuffering every 4 minutes or so? If so, how? What program/settings are you using?
Take a look at this , made a lot of research about the issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54738&highlight=
Hello,
I have just upgraded to the official GPS ROM and I am on the Swedish 3 operator. I have noticed since the upgrade that the network connection is switching from 3G to HSDPA when there is a demand of bandwidth or simply when there is data in either direction.
I can see that the purpose of this was to make it possible and more reliable to place and receive calls during data sessions. I have figured out though, that with the old ROM, there was no such switching (but there was no distinction with the icon, so you really had no idea) and the connection speed was always constantly 1Mbits/s when using Internet Sharing for example. Now with the HSDPA/3G switching/throttling, the connection often drops down to 3G speeds and Skype-calls are lacking quality from this a bit when using Skype in the car which i do quite regularly nowadays using my Jabra JX-10 headset.
I also realize that there is still a problem with outgoing and incoming calls during these automaticly switched-on HSDPA-sessions. That is probably why HTC has decided to keep the HSDPA sessions as short as possible, that's fine, but what boggles me is the algorithm used for the switching. It seems to always kick in HSDPA in the beginning of a new data session, and after a short time of inactivity (while pondering what favourite page to open this time) the connection drops down to 3G and it won't kick back to HSDPA even when you start browsing again, until a certain period of "non-HSDPA-ratio" has been reached and the phone thinks it would be OK to kick in the highspeed again for a little while.
I also noticed that using Skype would keep HSDPA alive once you place a call from a fresh started data session and keep talking ;-)
This is not a particular problem to me, I was just wondering of anyone else here has noticed and had an idea of what the programmers had in mind?
BTW: I am running TomTom 6.010 and Franson GpsGate on the machine now and it works absolutely like a dream. I used to have a Blue-I Bluetooth GPS in the car (Trimble based chipset, only 8 channels but quite OK piece of hardware) but this is far superior when it comes to HOLDING a persistent fix also when moving indoors. The TTFF is quite fast as long as you are outdoors, most of the time i have a fix before i leave the parking space. I noticed there being a dynamic number of satellites of the receiver, sometimes i see 7 out of 8 satellites, and then sometimes i see 10 out of 12! Anyone noticed?
Thanks in advance! Cheers...
It’s not your phone that decide to change from HSDPA mode to normal R99 (384kbits) mode and vice versa. Everything are always controlled by the network. The behaviors that you describe are normal. Besides the HSDPA is quit new for the operators and new parameters needs to be tuned for best performance for every users.
BTW, the degradation that you notice. You are not alone that use HSDPA.... Its finally the big success for 3G
I use Phone Alarm profiles and BandSwitch to control my connection based on business hours. I get a poor singal unless on 3G where my office is located. I force it to GPRS otherwise to save battery.
I have similar problems, cannot receive or start calls when HSDPA connected. Shouldn't that be possible anyway, calling and transferring data at the same time? Or is this a network provider problem?
I too am on the Swedish operator 3. I have an unlocked, non-operator distributed HTC TyTN that I had updated the radio to 1.40xxx and the ROM to Black Dymond 3.5 and was having the exact same problem. I could reproduce the incoming call not getting through error every single time I got the phone to go into HSDPA mode.
After some initial searching I read somewhere it was network dependent (Nokia switches vs Ericsson) and the only way to solve it was to disable the HSDPA using e.g. HTweakC, which I did and it solved the problem, but then of course I couldn't take advantage of the high-speed data access, which was the major reason I got this phone.
I recently noticed that 3 released a new extended ROM with instructions to update the ROM to the latest (as is available on the ftp here) then install their ExtROM. I went to the trouble to try and breakdown what was in this extended ROM, but being a newbie to pocketpc it was all hyroglyphics to me, so I went ahead and installed it over my old HTC ext ROM (which I saved for later use just in case).
When I get around to it I may mount this extended ROM here (I have it, but don't have too much time to put it up right now, so someone may beat me to it).
Anyway, Black Dymond 3.5 didn't install the Extended ROM after a hard reset (assuming that was the intention), so I did it myself afterwards. One initial bug that showed up quickly was the Comm Manager not wanting to start saying it would only manage a max of 7 items (whatever that means). So I installed Schaps latest Comm Manager and it worked fine.
Well, guess what, now there's a daemond that starts on boot and the phone app is different (another bug is that the text on the phone app buttons remain in the 3 theme although I changed back to black, but that's minor), but now I cannot replicate the no incoming calls during HSDPA error.
Apparently they've added something that makes the phone connect properly to their 3G/HSDPA network for call handling. Now I've got full HSDPA speed and no problem on incoming calls (plus still have Black Dymond's great VOIP/SIP WM6 solution).
Ok, as a noob I of course missed the fact that the daemon starting at boot is Voice Commander. Still the actual phone app/dll is somehow different with this ExtROM and it's solved my problems.
For any of you who've been using a Nokia Symbian phone in recent months, you'll be happy to hear that fring has just released a WM5/WM6 fring client on a "preview" basis (beta of the beta - but not quite alpha testing).
fring was the one thing that was tempting me back to my Nokia E61 after finally "fixing" my TyTN. Basically, it's a combined VOIP/IM client that supports Skype, Google Talk, MSN and SIP as well as it's own community.
So those of you still stuck on WM5 or SJPhone forget about it. For those with any issues whatsoever with the WM6 VOIP client, forget about it. From my experience, fring SIP over 3G was even better than the built-in Nokia SIP client on the E61 over wifi in terms of call quality and availability (and that says a lot).
Does it have bugs, yes. Does it need improving, yes. But it's still the best thing out there. And even if you only use Skype Mobile, the RAM usage of fring is less than half (although call quality for Skype seems to be noticably lower than over SIP).
Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads up. Don't kill me if you hate it (and no, I'm in no way employed by them). To find it, just do a google search for fring or go to www.fring.com. Their Windows Mobile forum can be found here:
http://www.fring.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11
I have problem to in stall it on my Hermes.... Can`t install it...
Fring - Hermes not supported
After registration i recieved the following message:
Your handset is not supported ... yet.
I'am eager to try fring, but we have to wait until the Hermes is supported.
somebody out there, running fring on a hermes?
Edit: Now i recieved my downloadlink, hmmm i will try later tonight back home and report back....
Tried this morning b4 seeing this post. It works quite well...
it works
I finally installed fring, and it works..... (just tried skype)
tried over GPRS&G3, and the phone wakes up from standby flawlessly
i also like those facts (bandwith usage):
fring for symbian phones consumes
~ 8MB for 60 min of mobile-VoIP call;
0.05 KB per Instant message
fring overhead ~ 10KB per hour connectivity
i hope those figures are equivalent to those on a WM5/WM6 device....
i kept getting a no internet connection error...
Any way to take the: "On mobile by www.fring.com" ??
Thanks for the heads up from Quist! I had just installed the new version of Skype only to have it crash everytime I make a call, just about to go back to the old version but will give Fring a go as just the fact that is not as memory hog like Skype appeals to me.
Warning to those on limited data plans
Be aware that fring automatically starts and attempts to log in every time the device is reset. Since I do a backup every morning at 2:00 AM using Spb Backup, which does a soft reset afterwards, my GPRS data usage skyrocketed. Not to mention that I was fast asleep at 2:00 AM, not ready to talk to any contacts at that time. Bad, bad fring! Bye, bye fring... I may try you again when you behave better!
I know that there is an easy way to stop it from doing this, but it is just the principle behind it. I hate programs that try to second guess my wishes and do things on my behalf without asking me whether that is OK or not. Besides, it should have the option of not using GPRS/3G for those of us on limited data plans (in my case, $30 per month for 7 MB of data download!)
John
johnburn said:
Besides, it should have the option of not using GPRS/3G for those of us on limited data plans...
John
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FYI
Fring has a option under Menu->Setting->Disable GPRS/3G
when disabled it will use wifi only....
cheers,
chaos42
chaos42 said:
FYI
Fring has a option under Menu->Setting->Disable GPRS/3G
when disabled it will use wifi only....
cheers,
chaos42
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DOH!!! How did I miss that one?! And guess what? There is also an option "Disable autostart". OK, now I feel like a fool. Maybe I should edit my original post to say "Make sure that you disable autostart if you don't want fring to log in at 2:00 AM after a soft reset, and make sure to disable GPRS/3G if on a limited data plan."
My apologies to the fring developers.
John
this software is pretty bad ass,, i finally got it to work a few days ago.... i even started a call with a friend on google and it worked great!!!
thumbs up!
Did your Google Talk call go through your speakerphone speaker? Is there a way to change that?
xojc said:
Did your Google Talk call go through your speakerphone speaker? Is there a way to change that?
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You have two (maybe three) options: The first is to use the built-in rear speaker (the default). The second option is to connect the wired headset that came with your device. The third option (I haven't tested this or know anyone that has got it to work, but according to Teksoft's web site it should work on the Hermes) is to use Bluemusic to redirect the rear speaker output to a Bluetooth headset.
There is no way to use the built-in front (ear) speaker as this is reserved for the phone hardware.
John
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315654 for a FULL review of Fring.
plusnet settings
I would like to use fring do use up my call allowance viq plusnet but I cant get the settings right. Can anyone help
how toinstall a .sis file in Jasjar?
hi senior members of this forum!
Im a newbie in installing apps in pda's. ihave O2 xda exec (jasjar). i downloaded the fring91.sis (which is said to be compatible with jasjar & O2 Exec) but its extension is .sis (Fring91.sis)
the question is how i will install it on my jasjar???
and please can u provide me some good links for registered apps for WM5 for my jasjar?
please help here!!!!!
waiting for ur replies!
Is anyone experiencing the problem while running TomTom 6 you can't answer calls or see who's calling? I have the stock ROM with 8MB page pool. I even tried to overclock it to 299 while running TomTom but that didn't help.
Hi,
I had the problem with the first version of Tomtom6. When I got a call, you could see, that the call window tried to display and the phone was ringing. But you could not see who was calling or answer the phone. If that is the problem, there is an update from January 07 available via the tomtom support page.
If you don't see the call come in in the first place, and they go straight to voicemail, you might use the traffic function. While online and transferring data, you will not get calls with a wing in the t-mobile network. no solution for that.
hope that helps
wolferl
How I fixed that problem for me.
I had the same issue with TomTom Navigator 6 on my T-Mobile Wing stock ROM. Everytime the phone rang while it was running, all the keys seem to lock up.
What did I do? I flashed with a non-tmobile rom and everything is all better. TomTom runs and it goes in the background when the phone rings. It runs faster all together. The only problem I have is that the buttons are mapped to a HTC p4350 keypad. Other than that, its much better.
I had same problem with wing's original rom. But now I have itje Touch-IT 2.3 and it runs fine, you can pick up the phone and answer and go back to tomtom.
I have successfully connected HD2 to the bluetooth feature in my MB C200. I can dial and make calls, even decline calls but cannot always answer calls by pressing the "answer" call in the car console. The phone just keeps ringing. It only works like 1 in 10 times. It is like the Bluetooth signal from the car is not been recognised by HD2.
I have tried most of the registry tweak suggested in this forum but it didn’t help. I use the Telstra model and have recently upgraded to the latest ROM but still no difference. Anyone else has this problem?
ROM: 1.72.841.0 (82124)
Radio: 2.07.51.22_2
did you check the option in the phone settings to allow the phone call to be accepted by the bluetooth?
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did you check the option in the phone settings to allow the phone call to be accepted by the bluetooth?
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Where is this option exactly? Can't seems to find it in the Personal->Phone settings.
Hi !
I've the exact same problem and I'm going nuts as I miss a lot of professional calls.
Does anyone find a solution ?
Never had any issues with my old good HD.
Hope it can be fixed.
BR
Nobody ?
I've tried the allow connection, but that doesn't helps at all.
Hope for a solution soon, otherwise the HD2 will go to trash right away.
Msg to HTC :
TEST YOUR PHONES ! and employ good developers and testers.
Too many bugs and non practical things with your devices.