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How to remove installed input methods on Windows Mobile 5

Hi all,
I don't have any use for the input methods "Block Recogniser", "Letter Recogniser" or "Transcriber" and I'd like to remove them.
I've recently installed another virtual keyboard, and I can't get it to load - I've been lead to believe this can occur if you've got too many keyboards loaded (only the default ones + the CoPilot keyboard) or too much stuff loaded in the Today screen (*cough* maybe LOL).
Is it just a registry setting (like the today screen) or is it something more fundamental?
Thanks
Jon

I dont thnk you can remove the defaults SIP as they are in the ROM, however you may remove them from the list. Check the wiki at WM5 section for the reg tweak to it.
As for your second question, I'm not sure, but I have 3 additional SIP there, it seems working just fine, and I have 3-4 things on my Today screen.

Ok, now the other question, how to manually ADD SIP? Other than copying files, one may need some regitstry tweaks... Any idea?
For example, i want to add japanese SIP to English ROM...

Use a CAB manager to open up the SIP CAB installation file, and look at what they've done.
BTW, a 'friendly' warning, doing things on the SIP registry can potentially freeze your phone upon any softreset, hence making your phone useless without hardreset. So, make a backup before doing anything and prepare for a hardreset.

A few notes:
1) All SIPs are registered under HKCR\CLSID\{SIP CLSID} If you do a search of those keys looking for value containing SIP name as it appears on the menu you will find it. To disable SIP delete its key.
But as hanmin already pointed out: Be careful when messing with registry and SIPs in particular!
2) Generally built in SIPs don't count for the "too many SIP" scenario. If you have 5 or more 3rd party SIPs installed that could be the problem. Other wise it might be missing DLL, bad registry or internal problem with the software. Also in AKU 2 and up devices 3rd party SIPs may stop loading after a while (like a day of use or so) until you soft reset device.
This can be prevented by toggling through them on startup. There is an app on the forum here somewhere to do just that.
3) SIP registry (assuming it doesn't need custom settings) looks like this:
HKCR\CLSID\{SIP CLSID}
default (string) SIP Name
HKCR\CLSID\{SIP CLSID}\InProcServer32
default (string) sipdll.dll
HKCR\CLSID\{SIP CLSID}\IsSIPInputMethod
default (dword) 1
Unfortunately, usually there is no way to find SIPs CLSID from the outside to create the key.
However, every SIP must contain a DllRegisterServer function, which when called will create the needed registry entries. If you can find something similar to regsvr32.exe for the PPC you should be able to safely register the SIP.
Once again: putting the DLL under windows and registering the SIP does not guarantee that it will work or that your device recovers from soft reset.
Be sure to backup your data!
{ok, I think that's enough fun with styles and colors for now}

You could also try Tweaks2K2.NET. With this program you can hide the SIP's you don't want to show on your device

Thanks for the info levenum. I will analyse working Japanese ROM SIP now... Will report if find something usefull...

Does removing an SIP from the list make it pop up faster when clicking the arrow to bring up the list??

How do I truly remove HTC SIP keyboard?

Guys, I need to remove the HTC keyboard/keypad (pic below for clarity) as I am using CooTek's TouchPal and the HTC option keeps on popping up as the default (altho it is not set as the default).
I HAVE used the reghack to disable the CLSID key, which removes the SIP fromt he list of SIPS, BUT it still pops up a lot despite not being the default.
Uninstall does not work; I suspect as several files are in use which also manifest as errors during backup. I need to completely disable this SIP (perhaps in some sort of safe mode) then uninstall the files. They are not processes I can stop, nor can I see a service that can be stopped.
Any bright ideas? Extensive searching shows nothing on this. Device is an Elf/Touch.

same thing here, I would love to get rid of this thing. It is totally driving me nuts.

Use a program called "SIPChange" After you select the SIP of your choice, soft reset and you'll be set.

You can also disable HKLM\Software\Tegic (the hole folder).

s3a said:
You can also disable HKLM\Software\Tegic (the hole folder).
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Yep, that did the trick: deleted key, reboot, uninstall then works.
Thanks a stack!

Did you truly succeed in totally getting rid of it? HOW? It's in ROM; the .dll's won't unregister, can't be deleted. I deleted the reg key and rebooted--no change. Modified the key under CLSID, rebooted, and it wasn't listed in the list, but it was the first input method to come up anyway! I love the Touch, but I hate this thing. Very grateful for any help.
Later: OK, I think I got it. Some combination of deleting the Tegis key and zero-ing out the CLSID keys.... It seems to be gone...but I'm keeping a hammer close at hand, just in case.

anybody here can give out a workable sequence of actions to get rid of stock keyboard on HTC Touch? thanks

This procedure worked for me:
0. First, set the default input method to something other than HTC Keyboard or HTC Keypad (search these forums for reg hack or "defaultIM.exe");
1. Search the device's registry for "issip" (short for "issipinputmethod");
2. At each found "1", go up to the parent key and identify the input method;
3. When you find each of "HTC Keyboard" and "HTC Keypad" input method, go up to its parent key (the long numeric string) and *delete that whole key* (for safety, export it first so you'll have a backup);
4. Now go into HKLM\Software and *delete*the whole "Tegis" key.
5. Soft reset.
Notes: (a) Merely setting "issipinputmethod" to "0" for the unwanted items was not effective. (b) Since those unwanted input methods are part of ROM, there's nothing in "Remove Programs" to uninstall. I did try explicitly installing them (you can find the .cab in these forums), then uninstalling, but that was useless.
P.S. If you'll export the reg keys from steps 3 and 4 and upload or PM them to me, I'll turn them into a "remover" to make this easier for others in future.

can you plase explaine what you main in this step:
{{{4. Now go into HKLM\Software and *delete*the whole "Tegis" key.}}}
thank you

If I understood your original question, you want to remove the "HTC Keyboard" and "HTC Keypad" input methods. The "Tegis" key in the device's registry, under H_Key_Local_Machine\Software, contains information about those input methods and must be deleted. If you don't see any "Tegis" key, then the Trinity must be different in some way.

i have "ADW version 1.1 WWE" ROM
the default HTC keyboard in this rom is only keyboard, I did the procedure you mentioned but in point 4 i did not see "Tegis" i have "Tegic" and i delete it but after soft rest the system freeze and i was forced to hard reset.

Found CLSID reg keys
I use Total Commander for accessing the register, but the search option does not work in there.
So I went through the ID's by hand. It took some time, but hell, it pays off if the annoyance is gone!
The CLSID's:
Touch-toetsenbord (Touch-keyboard):
{62B00599-25D2-4e09-8C48-03BF26DB8517}
Touch-toetsenblok (Touch-keypad):
{198D503A-EFFE-4afd-BC54-EED333C80E6D}
I found this in the HTC Touch Cruise WM6 (original) Dutch language.
If there is a typo in my strings, just look for the first part, before the first "-".
I hope it helps, just like it helped me.

can those who have done it successful tell us if restarting
your phone now takes a longer time?
I've tried disabling the default keyboard, and switching it to
PCM keyboard. Then remove default from list and make PCM keyboard
the new default.
I find that startup takes longer after that.
Hard resetted twice.
Is this method of complete removal better?

Unable to reboot now!
mtn_lion said:
This procedure worked for me:
0. First, set the default input method to something other than HTC Keyboard or HTC Keypad (search these forums for reg hack or "defaultIM.exe");
1. Search the device's registry for "issip" (short for "issipinputmethod");
2. At each found "1", go up to the parent key and identify the input method;
3. When you find each of "HTC Keyboard" and "HTC Keypad" input method, go up to its parent key (the long numeric string) and *delete that whole key* (for safety, export it first so you'll have a backup);
4. Now go into HKLM\Software and *delete*the whole "Tegis" key.
5. Soft reset.
Notes: (a) Merely setting "issipinputmethod" to "0" for the unwanted items was not effective. (b) Since those unwanted input methods are part of ROM, there's nothing in "Remove Programs" to uninstall. I did try explicitly installing them (you can find the .cab in these forums), then uninstalling, but that was useless.
P.S. If you'll export the reg keys from steps 3 and 4 and upload or PM them to me, I'll turn them into a "remover" to make this easier for others in future.
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Did that and now my Diamond hung for minutes at the boot screen, no sign of waking up.

man i wish sip change would just work the way its supposed too
change default and reboot, but no defaults back to the orig

mtn_lion said:
This procedure worked for me:
0. First, set the default input method to something other than HTC Keyboard or HTC Keypad (search these forums for reg hack or "defaultIM.exe");
1. Search the device's registry for "issip" (short for "issipinputmethod");
2. At each found "1", go up to the parent key and identify the input method;
3. When you find each of "HTC Keyboard" and "HTC Keypad" input method, go up to its parent key (the long numeric string) and *delete that whole key* (for safety, export it first so you'll have a backup);
4. Now go into HKLM\Software and *delete*the whole "Tegis" key.
5. Soft reset.
Notes: (a) Merely setting "issipinputmethod" to "0" for the unwanted items was not effective. (b) Since those unwanted input methods are part of ROM, there's nothing in "Remove Programs" to uninstall. I did try explicitly installing them (you can find the .cab in these forums), then uninstalling, but that was useless.
P.S. If you'll export the reg keys from steps 3 and 4 and upload or PM them to me, I'll turn them into a "remover" to make this easier for others in future.
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concerning "remover",i think i already saw few of those

I use SKTools to remove the key. It's easy.

<thumb up> on elf
works like a charm on my elf!!! cheers!!! thanks!!! :->
mtn_lion said:
This procedure worked for me:
0. First, set the default input method to something other than HTC Keyboard or HTC Keypad (search these forums for reg hack or "defaultIM.exe");
1. Search the device's registry for "issip" (short for "issipinputmethod");
2. At each found "1", go up to the parent key and identify the input method;
3. When you find each of "HTC Keyboard" and "HTC Keypad" input method, go up to its parent key (the long numeric string) and *delete that whole key* (for safety, export it first so you'll have a backup);
4. Now go into HKLM\Software and *delete*the whole "Tegis" key.
5. Soft reset.
Notes: (a) Merely setting "issipinputmethod" to "0" for the unwanted items was not effective. (b) Since those unwanted input methods are part of ROM, there's nothing in "Remove Programs" to uninstall. I did try explicitly installing them (you can find the .cab in these forums), then uninstalling, but that was useless.
P.S. If you'll export the reg keys from steps 3 and 4 and upload or PM them to me, I'll turn them into a "remover" to make this easier for others in future.
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xboxhaxorz said:
man i wish sip change would just work the way its supposed too
change default and reboot, but no defaults back to the orig
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ok.. let me make this simple for everyone.
SIPChange DOES work.. for everyone (for supported OS)
the thing is, that there's a delay you need to apply for it. now.. i know the delay box in SIPChange is problematic.. so i what i did to solve this (on 4 different devices) is to change the delay in the registry.
now the tricky part is, that each different device, with each different rom and it's different set of programs installed has a different sipboot delay. so what you need to do is increase the delay until it works. this will take a few resets but .. what to do
put this in a reg file and change the delay everytime...
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\The Paradigm Group\sipchange\Parameters]
"Delay"=DWORD:000000A0
change the value (Hexadecimally!) until it works. (to my knowledge it could move between 10 to 30 seconds (between a stacked polaris and a stuffed wizard))
now.. make SURE you chose the right SIP you wanted before you do that (or change the reg value for it (it's in the same regfolder).
enjoy.

My 2 Cents
I've been battling with this on my HTC Touch Diamond, trying both Resco Keyboard Pro 5.11 and TouchPal 3.5 and have discovered the following:
(1) Even using SIPChange or SKTools to change DefaultIM, I cannot get any non-HTC/non-Microsoft keyboard layout to be persistent across a soft reset.
(2) If I set any HTC layout (Full QWERTY, Compact QWERTY or Dial Pad) or the standard (small) keyboard as my input method, it is persistent across soft resets.
(3) According to Microsoft (on MSDN):
The default Input Method must be signed with a privileged or unprivileged certificate so that it can successfully load during the boot process.
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My assumption is that either these 3rd party keyboard layouts are not signed, or that HTC is doing something "special" that allows their keyboard layouts to be persistent across a soft reset... possibly some code in WM releases past the AKU2 Windows Mobile 5 ROMs that checks for a "non-preferred" input method as DefaultIM and if it finds one in the DefaultIM registry key reverts it back to the standard keyboard layout.
I would use the HTC Full QWERTY layout (or even the Compact one) if it had one feature: Feedback sound! I find it annoying that they provide no audible feedback (or even a visual cue) when you press a key. At least Resco and TouchPal do that!

change VIDEO CALL SOFTKEY to CONTACTS

Is it possible at all to do this?

Would be really nice

you have to change it in the registry.
some one on here will be able to tell you what bits to change.
i cant as mine is set to something else and you have to
set the right path and mine will be differant to what you want.

964rs777 said:
you have to change it in the registry.
some one on here will be able to tell you what bits to change.
i cant as mine is set to something else and you have to
set the right path and mine will be differant to what you want.
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I can do better than that. I can point you to the cab I made of the relevant changes so all you need to do is install this one file!

Great job, but do tell if the video call button would come back or not if I uninstall the Cab file.
If not how can we bring it back if and when I want to

This freeware program is a great alternative. Includes a reset to default command.
http://fantasticbytes.com/products/softkeymanager

i got a kinda similiar problem..except i wanna change my left soft key which now says TODAY SCREEN to watever da the default was..i think it was PHONE on my tf3d home screen..the reason it says TODAY SCREEN was after i uninstalled the phone alarm cab i was left wit dat..now i cant figure out how to change it back..i tried da fantasticbytes softkey manager didnt change anything..so if anyone can help or point me to right link link..really appreciate it..thanx

Can someone give me the registry path, so I can choose witch programma I like to map?
I have the new 2.03 ROM installed but want to change the dailer softkeys.
Thanks

You would have to find out a way to edit the DLL from post #4.
Unlike the softkeys from the homescreen the softkey on the dialer work totally different.

I didn't realise we were talking about the dialer when I posted above!
You can change the Left Softkey to the default contacts application (iContact BE on my phone) by setting the following registry DWORD to 1:
HKLM\Software\HTC\PHONE\LSKContact
Cab file attached (my first ever)

Also, you can drop this file in your Windows dir. Just overwrite the original with Total Commander or Resco.

65coupei6 said:
Also, you can drop this file in your Windows dir. Just overwrite the original with Total Commander or Resco.
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What does this DLL do?
Now I have standard Windows Contacts or Pocket Informant, but I want iContact set as default contact button. This because in the phonepad I can't switch to second phone number when using smartdail...

Davey101 said:
I didn't realise we were talking about the dialer when I posted above!
You can change the Left Softkey to the default contacts application (iContact BE on my phone) by setting the following registry DWORD to 1:
HKLM\Software\HTC\PHONE\LSKContact
Cab file attached (my first ever)
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That registry key is allready set to 1, but I can't get iContact to start...
What does your cab file do?

Marvie said:
That registry key is allready set to 1, but I can't get iContact to start...
What does your cab file do?
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It just sets that one registry value, changing the left soft key of the dialer to "Contacts".
This launches the default contacts application - normally pOutlook but it should be iContact if you have installed it.

I installed the new iContact 0.9 and now it is default contact manager
Thanks

Davey101 said:
I didn't realise we were talking about the dialer when I posted above!
You can change the Left Softkey to the default contacts application (iContact BE on my phone) by setting the following registry DWORD to 1:
HKLM\Software\HTC\PHONE\LSKContact
Cab file attached (my first ever)
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Thank you!!!

Remap Softkeys

I´m using pocket informant for PIM management and HD Tweaks to remap the softkeys, however, I can´t assign to any of the softkey the pocket informant contacts or calendar, only the WM.
Any ideas on how to solve this?

You need to modifye keys in the registry. Here is how I've done it on my HD (it's in french, so you may have to translate the path for your version)
Using a registry editor,
- I have assigned the label "Agenda" to the left soft key :
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKText="Agenda"
- I've assigned the week view to the key :
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKPath="Windows\menu démarrer\programmes\informant utils\piweek.lnk"
Note that the "Informant Utils" folder contains a shortcut for each view, you can choose whichever you want, their name are self explanatory.
I've configured the x button to close all applications but PI (to have it always active and then have a faster access) :
- start PI
- go to settings>Task manager> tab "current" (or whatever the first tab name is in your language)
- tap and hold on the PI task, then select "add to exclusive"
That way, when I click on the left soft key (now labeled "Agenda") I switch to PI in week view. I can then switch from PI by using the Home button or the x button, PI will stay active and the next switch will be very fast.

Nor working for me...

I should work. You must have made a mistake somwhere. Did you do a soft reset? Did you doublecheck the path to be sure you wrote it correctly?
You can also try the program HD Tweak wich allow you to set that in section 14.4 & 14.5.

My answer to HTCZar was irrelevant, because Claude already anwered.

As I said in the first post, I tried to use HD Tweaks, however the optios presented don´t include the PI calendar\agenda, how do I put them there?

Coude said:
- I've assigned the week view to the key :
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKPath="Windows\menu démarrer\programmes\informant utils\piweek.lnk"
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Could you possibly check the link properties for this and month view? Just for anyone that might have got rid of all those extra links cluttering up his 'All programs list'...
What I'd like to have set up, the left soft key goes to Pocket Informant (maybe the screen where you choose what view you want) and when I tap an appointment in TF3D it loads the agenda view, using SSMaPa. (Can you get me a link for this?)

Here is the link as read in the properties of the shortcut :
For PIWeek.lnk :
"\Program Files\WebIS\PocketInformant\PITab.exe" 4?\Program Files\WebIS\PocketInformant\PITab.exe,-113
For PIMonth :
"\Program Files\WebIS\PocketInformant\PITab.exe" 4?\Program Files\WebIS\PocketInformant\PITab.exe,-114
To get rid af tho extras link in 'All program list', it would have been better to move the shortcut in another folder, so you could still use them if needed...
I haven't used SSMaPa yet (but I planned to) therefore I can't help you on this matter. Sorry.

Yeah, I should have just moved them... silly me. Thanks for your help. Could you possibly give the link to the agenda view too? Thanks.
Is there a link to 'view' view?

I´ll Try that Again then.
Is it possoble to change the hardware keys function?

Works fine! Thank you very much! @claude

Where do you put the path and exactly how are you writing it ?

@AndyCr15
Could you possibly give the link to the agenda view too?
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"\Program Files\WebIS\PocketInformant\PITab.exe" 2?\Program Files\WebIS\PocketInformant\PITab.exe,-111
Is there a link to 'view' view?
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Sorry, I couldnt find one.
@HTCzar
Where do you put the path and exactly how are you writing it ?
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1. You need to install registry editor. I use Resco Registry Editor, but there are some other.
2. Open the registry and follow the tree up to the parameter HomeLSKPath. Taping on the parameter should provide a field where to keyin the path string.
3. Quit the registry editor
4. Restart TF3D or do a Soft Reset.

I´ve done that, and i´m also using Resco editor.
The path strings begins with Windows\....PIWeek.lnk right? it takes no " "?

Please help - can't change the right softkey!

Hi guys!
I tried to change my right softkey from "Menu" to "BT Toggle" (a bluetooth switching program I've already installed) using Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 but it didn't work on my HD2.
When I restart the HD2, the key is changed to "BT Toggle" but after entering the PIN and after HTC sense started the key is named "Menu" again.
I looked into the registry but all is right there, the changes were saved. But why is the new softkey name only displayed before starting HTC sense and not after?
Any ideas?
Best regards,
Oliver

Home RSK
I wouldn't mess with the right soft key of sense.
Only the left.
How would you edit the quick tabs?
If you aren't using sense, only the WM interface, you can edit those SK's.
Did you get BT Toggle to work?
It wouldn't for me.
Benz-Driver said:
Hi guys!
I tried to change my right softkey from "Menu" to "BT Toggle" (a bluetooth switching program I've already installed) using Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 but it didn't work on my HD2.
When I restart the HD2, the key is changed to "BT Toggle" but after entering the PIN and after HTC sense started the key is named "Menu" again.
I looked into the registry but all is right there, the changes were saved. But why is the new softkey name only displayed before starting HTC sense and not after?
Any ideas?
Best regards,
Oliver
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This one works with my HD2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4292054&postcount=11
Sorry, what do you mean with
I wouldn't mess with the right soft key of sense.
Only the left.
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My english isn't that good...

Using this post by vovichek62 as a guide I used the following process to change the right soft key:
Download LuaDec from here and extract
Copy \Windows\07c67730_manila from device to luadec folder (and somewhere else as a backup).
Open a command prompt there
Run
Code:
luadec 07c67730_manila > 07c67730_manila.lua
Open 07c67730_manila.lua in an editor like notepad
You need to change two functions. The fuction above "SetSoftKey = l_0_0" sets the text for the soft buttons. This is my modified line:
Code:
_application:SetRightSoftkey(Softkey(Locale:GetString("IDS_CONTACTS"), OnMenuPressed))
I think it was originally set to IDS_MENU. That "OnMenuPressed" is the function called when you press it.
So now you need to change that function - The function above "OnMenuPressed = l_0_0". On mine this is now:
Code:
l_0_0 = function()
_application.Navigation:Navigate(URL("Manila://people/browserlayer/peopleAll.page"), false)
end
Now, back in the command prompt run:
Code:
luac -o 07c67730_manila 07c67730_manila.lua
and copy 07c67730_manila back to your device.
If you were up for it you could probably copy some of the left soft key code to allow changing the right soft key in the registry.
Xaddict is right, once you do this you can no longer tweak your home buttons. If I need to change one I go back in to the registry and find:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\Home\0\IsSet (where 0 is the button number) and change the value to 0. If you then restart manila (or your device) you can change that button. It will still show the old text and icon until you do. I also made a simple .reg which clears all the buttons, attached. For me it was worth this hassle as I could remove the People tab.

Tx fot BT Toggle
Nice one.
Thanks very much : )
Benz-Driver said:
This one works with my HD2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4292054&postcount=11
Sorry, what do you mean with
My english isn't that good...
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iv just made a new 07c67730_manila file that reads from the registry
so all you have to do is download my 07c67730_manila file
http://www.filefront.com/16489283/07c67730_manila
then copy it to your windows folder (backup the old 07c67730_manila file)
then in registry at:
HKLM > Software\HTC\Manila
Change:
HomeRSKPath
HomeRSKText
HomeRSKArguments
to anything you like
for contacts:
HomeRSKPath Manila://people\browserlayer\?.page
HomeRSKText anything you like something liek contacts or all people
HomeRSKArguments leave this blank
how to remove quick Links without the menu:
all you do is hold the quick link you dont want for about 3-4 seconds and then drag it away this works on my dutty rom but gessing its the same for all roms

I am using HD2Tweaks - beats the hassle of backing up/copying manila files, editing registry entries - to assign the left and right softkey at the Home/Today screen.
But the available options are a fixed set.
Telephone (default for left), Menu (default for right), Backlight, Contacts, Contacts List, Notes, Calendar WM, Calendar WM (week view), Calendar WM (month view), New Appointment, Tasks, Messaging, SMS/MMS, Internet, Opera, Camera, Album, Comm Manager, File Explorer, Google Maps, Internet Sharing, MyPhone, RSS Hub, Radio FM, Windows Live, You Tube.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588652

HD2Tweaks does not work for me on duttys rom so if HD2Tweaks works thats grate but mine is like a backup option

Holding quicklinks for 3-4 secs dont work for me. I'm on 1.66 WWE stock ROM. Need help on how to remove quicklinks. Also does anyone know the path for New SMS on LSK or RSK? Thanks!