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I have an older HTC HD and it cannot play 800 x 480 video files smoothly so I usually have to reencode it to a resolution of 480 x 272 to have smooth playback with coreplayer with about 105% average speed on the benchmark results.
My question is, if I buy the HTC HD2 with its more powerful Snapdragon 1GHz processor, would coreplayer be able to play .avi or .mkv files with 800 x 420 resolution smoothly with over 100% average speed on the benchmark results?
Player smooth video with good bitrate and high resolution is very important to me because I do a lot of movie watching with my older HTC HD.
Hey, yes it can!
I have done some Benchmarking. You can see it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616058
Always
Try a version of Coreplayer optimized for Snapdragon from Toshiba TG1 ...
Works flawlessly for me in GDI render .
It's impossible to answer this - it depends so strongly on which video you're talking about. If you've got an mp4 file with a bit-rate of 2000kb/s encoded using CABAC then CorePlayer will have significant problems with it. Lower bit-rates (and avoiding CABAC) may well be fine.
This is slightly odd question, in a way: where are you getting your 800x420 videos from? I've never seen a downloadable video at that resolution (except for some samples on these fora). If the answer is that you are making them yourself by transcoding an existing file to change the resolution, then this begs the question: why on Earth would you want to transcode it into a format that you need CorePlayer to play? If you're transcoding then it would make more sense to transcode it into a format that can be played easily using Pocket Media Player or the HTCAlbum player - both of which do a much better job than CorePlayer on the (admittedly narrow) range of formats and codecs that they support.
Coreplayer does a very good job on the sort of lower-resolution AVI encoded with xvid that people normally use to distribute SD TV or DVD rips. So, between them, you pretty much cover the bases: stuff with a resolution of >800x480 that is transcoded should be converted into something you can play in HTCAlbum, while anything with lower resolution will probably play quite nicely in CorePlayer.
Yes, 800x480 avis should play fine on Coreplayer, tested with a few HD trailers down-res to 800x480 and they play fine. But of course, don't expect to play 800x480 mp4s with high bitrates in Coreplayer, it doesn't bode well. MKVs wise it might not work from the limited testing i've done in that area.
@Shasarak, some videos for some strange reason prefer to be transcoded into some formats. For example, on my setup, mkvs with vorbis/dts audio, when transcoded into mp4, they tend to go OOS. However when transcoded into divx/xvid, they work fine...Not sure exactly why, but that might be a reason.
Also, HTC Video player doesn't allow any form of playlist or folder based playback. Some people might prefer this to watching a movie, exit, click another video, rinse and repeat.
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I also primarily upgraded to the HD2 for movie watching. Love it.
Plays 700meg avi's in any format via coreplayer. Usually around 180% so heaps of head room.
Screen is also a massive improvement and battery life is better. Eg the hd would only play 2 movies before flat however the hd2 is only at 50% battery after two full length movies.
At this stage after 2 months I have no reason to look for a new phone.
Where, where?
Azitrox said:
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Where can I get it?
DinoZ1 said:
Where can I get it?
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It's not all that imo.
Tested it with some re-encodes I made, and whilst it does play them smoothly (especially compared to the retail 1.36 version), the quality needs to be dropped slightly to do so, whereas HTC Album plays it smooth and at max quality.
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Try a version of Coreplayer optimized for Snapdragon from Toshiba TG1 ...
Works flawlessly for me in GDI render .
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DinoZ1 said:
Where can I get it?
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You can't, or at least not legally - it's illegally pirated.
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You can't, or at least not legally - it's illegally pirated.
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It is legal to me as I bought a full licence
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It is legal to me as I bought a full licence
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Doesn't matter.....you still won't get any assistance on where to find it here.
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It is legal to me as I bought a full licence
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I'm afraid it isn't and you didn't.
You may well have a licence for the commercial version of CorePlayer. You do NOT, however, have a licence for the hardware-accelerated version, unless you actually own a Toshiba TG01. The two products are not the same, and are covered by different licences. (And even if you do own a TG01, you still don't have a licence to take the application off there and install it on another phone.)
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You can't, or at least not legally - it's illegally pirated.
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Yes , is `very` pirated , but for benchmark purpose ONLY I try it on my HD2 . Again , it`s amaizing !!
core player do not play mkv-files.
on my device i have sound but no picture.
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It's impossible to answer this - it depends so strongly on which video you're talking about. If you've got an mp4 file with a bit-rate of 2000kb/s encoded using CABAC then CorePlayer will have significant problems with it. Lower bit-rates (and avoiding CABAC) may well be fine.
This is slightly odd question, in a way: where are you getting your 800x420 videos from? I've never seen a downloadable video at that resolution (except for some samples on these fora). If the answer is that you are making them yourself by transcoding an existing file to change the resolution, then this begs the question: why on Earth would you want to transcode it into a format that you need CorePlayer to play? If you're transcoding then it would make more sense to transcode it into a format that can be played easily using Pocket Media Player or the HTCAlbum player - both of which do a much better job than CorePlayer on the (admittedly narrow) range of formats and codecs that they support.
Coreplayer does a very good job on the sort of lower-resolution AVI encoded with xvid that people normally use to distribute SD TV or DVD rips. So, between them, you pretty much cover the bases: stuff with a resolution of >800x480 that is transcoded should be converted into something you can play in HTCAlbum, while anything with lower resolution will probably play quite nicely in CorePlayer.
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I have found that any videos I play in Media Play or Album player play back with the video and audio out of Sync. I therefore use CorePlayer as it allows me to change the sync to compensate.
It is strange as the video files play in perfect sync on my PC but not on the HD2.
Anyone have any ideas why this would be?????
on my touch pro ive had no need for watchin super high res videos but with the hd2's screen i figure why not.
do free players support mkv files and do they actually play without stuttering?
I dunno about 720p files without studder but it might do it, depends on how well it was encoded.
On my Fuze I have played some MkV files on Coreplayer as well as FLAC and OGG without issues.
Easy answer - no.
If you want best quality, recode them to 800x480 MP4.
But if you're into series, the standard xvid versions already play beautifully.
double post, sorry...
I used Handbrake for encoding files into MKV and MP4 to play them in TCPMP. The best results i had with MKV, more sharp, more brighness and they´re running without breaks.
so for 800x480 what other video settings did you pick for mkv to have it play perfect? i got a bit of stutttering on the file i tried today
Sounds Interesting.
just use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Xvid is easier on the processor than H264 so you will get better results with it, just up the bitrate to 2Mbps+ and it'll look better than the the 750kbps H264, and it'll play faster as well.
CPU
did you know that even G4 Cpus cant handle 720p Perfectly!
also, there is absolutely no reason to watch a 1280×720 resolution file on a screen that is only 800x480.
it will give you no advantages visually.
no, but time advantages if it wasn't necessary to reencode the video ..
This phone should be able to handle 720P, I mean my old i8910 (600Mhz CPU, 256MB RAM, native DivX/Xvid support) could play most 720P I threw at it, so certainly the hardware isn't the main issue here...
m720p mkv's converted to mp4 using winmenc (and the audio sync fix to counteract the hd2's sync problem) and playing on windows media player looks great
hmm, do you have soo many 720p sources? i play normal tv shows and movies as divx or xvid DVD quality, and that plays perfectly....
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hmm, do you have soo many 720p sources? i play normal tv shows and movies as divx or xvid DVD quality, and that plays perfectly....
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No choice, some of us have moved to HD media for quite sometime already.
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This phone should be able to handle 720P, I mean my old i8910 (600Mhz CPU, 256MB RAM, native DivX/Xvid support) could play most 720P I threw at it, so certainly the hardware isn't the main issue here...
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hehe...for sure you can't play 720p mkvs on the i8910.
As in the title what is the best app for playing avi, divx and xvid on android?:
OK, I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but you can't play divx or xvid on Android yet. Supposedly future Desire updates will have that.
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As in the title what is the best app for playing avi, divx and xvid on android?:
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Try YXflash
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OK, I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but you can't play divx or xvid on Android yet. Supposedly future Desire updates will have that.
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The Archos 5 Internet Tabled (w/ Android) can play Divx, xvid and mostly any other video format, mkv and HD included. Of course, that is because they have a proprietary player.
The Desire is rumored to get an update soon that will allow it to play Divx files. The hardware is more than capable of doing it!
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...ceive-divx-playback-support-in-future-update/
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Try YXflash
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Thanks i had that on my iphone did'nt realise it was on android too
How well does yxflash work with playing back avi-files on the Desire?
I've tried playing 700 mb video (624x352, bitrate aprox. 1500, framrate 25) on a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 with yxflash, and it didn't handle it very well. My
Samsung Omnia HD is able to play the file without a problem.
Have installed it on mine and it plays the divx pretty well. Very slightly jerky, but very watchable. It could also be the encoding as it is the only one I have tried so far.
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Have installed it on mine and it plays the divx pretty well. Very slightly jerky, but very watchable. It could also be the encoding as it is the only one I have tried so far.
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i found xyflash on the desire pretty poor. playing a tv show in divx format. very choppy frame rate.
tried xyflash with one film in avi format and seems fine
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tried xyflash with one film in avi format and seems fine
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Odd. Anyway I've discovered doubleTwist now. It's very good. I synced my divx video folder with my phone and as it copies the files it converts on the fly to mp4 format. Works like a dream.
Also, keep an eye out for CorePlayer.
It's in development and sold make an excellent player of al formats for us.
Quite agree coreplayer would be great i am suprised that they have not done it allready.
Keep an eye on this: http://twitter.com/corecodec
Although the coreplayer is in developement, developers of the corecodec stated, that Google's SDK/NDK misses some features for native support, that makes it so hard to bring a final
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885&start=75
hopefully once the guy who created yxflash gets a n1 or desire tweaks it to run smoothly.
i had yxflash on my g1 and it played most avi's smoothly.. considering the hardware 528mhz to 1ghz - with new gfx hardware also.
even winmobile 6.1 pro on my treo 750 could play avi fine.
Hi ,,,
I think that the Desire can play the AVI ,
I have seen it on a youtube
(the problem, I can not put the link for your guys here as I am not permitted to do so)
you can search it under comparsion between Nexus and Desire.
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Hi ,,,
I think that the Desire can play the AVI ,
I have seen it on a youtube
(the problem, I can not put the link for your guys here as I am not permitted to do so)
you can search it under comparsion between Nexus and Desire.
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No it can't.
Convert you file with mencoder to mp4 and play it on the Desire.
I zipped the necessary files:
mediafire.com/?yx0jbn42qdn
Just drag and drop the file you want to convert on the file convert2desire(.bat).
After waiting some time your file will be converted in the ideal .mp4 format for the Desire.
You will find it in the same directory as the convert2desire(.bat) file.
I will not buy an Android phone before a good .avi/divx player is available. I'm using WM since 2000 and my entire collection of video's is /avi/divx/mkv.
I just couldn't believe my ears when I heard Android (on HTC Desire) can't play those formats.
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I will not buy an Android phone before a good .avi/divx player is available. I'm using WM since 2000 and my entire collection of video's is /avi/divx/mkv.
I just couldn't believe my ears when I heard Android (on HTC Desire) can't play those formats.
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Rockplayerbase (aka rockplayer) works perfectly. It's now in open beta. Search for it.
yep rockplayer works great......no pause at all
Hi,
I've been searching the net for any information about MKV playback on Android and found this one:
mobilegadgets-review.blogspot.com/2010/04/htc-desire-plays-mkv-divx-videos.html
Can I trust this source? Anyone tried this one?
You can also get the yxplayer from Android Market and I would recommend this.
But I don't know whether it has mkv playback. The only tool I know is called "RockPlayerBase" which is able to play mkv but not very smooth (averaged 16 fps on my Desire). I assume, you can get this tool from here... anywhere^^ just search.
I hope, I could help you. Correct me, if I'm wrong
16 fps doesn't sound too promising.. Thanks for advice though
16fps if you are lucky! more like 5 most of the time. I think the rockplayer is a software player so its using just the brute force of the CPU. Thats not bad considering most Atom based netbooks cant play MKVs smoothly without an HD decoder card...
Maybe one day we will get some hardware assistance..
Not sure if this will help at all, but mkv2vob converts mkv files to either vob or mpeg, and does it very quickly. (I don't normally recommend conversion apps as they're usually really slow.)
If either vob or mpeg will play better then I really would recommend giving it a try.
http://www.mkv2vob.com/showthread.php?tid=1
Also highly recommended for PS3 users who want to watch mkv files
Try RockPlayer. It's awesome.
ledaz said:
Hi,
I've been searching the net for any information about MKV playback on Android and found this one:
mobilegadgets-review.blogspot.com/2010/04/htc-desire-plays-mkv-divx-videos.html
Can I trust this source? Anyone tried this one?
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That is yxflash and an old version at that a newer one is available in market works a treat for all i throw at it
Also using RockPlayer aka: DemoPlayer
Considering time wasted converting files and saving space, when viewing movies, better idea is to stick with divx/xvid/h.264?
There's nothing that currently plays MKVs properly in all I've tried incl. the aforementioned apps. The RockPlayerBase cannot play H.264 vids. It will however play XviD/DivX totally fine upto VGA resolution (plays upto 1.2Mbps VGA vids fine that I've tested).
Act 1 player, Meridian, the stock player - all play H.264 vids perfectly. HD 720p vids at that, and in some vids, upto 10Mbps plays well. But they don't play AVIs or MKVs.
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There's nothing that currently plays MKVs properly in all I've tried incl. the aforementioned apps. The RockPlayerBase cannot play H.264 vids. It will however play XviD/DivX totally fine upto VGA resolution (plays upto 1.2Mbps VGA vids fine that I've tested).
Act 1 player, Meridian, the stock player - all play H.264 vids perfectly. HD 720p vids at that, and in some vids, upto 10Mbps plays well. But they don't play AVIs or MKVs.
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Plays 1.5 MBPS full WVGA videos just fine, too. And you can just use Rock for XviD/DivX/MKV/AVIs and Stock for H.264. Don't be a lazy bum
Afaik, you can't set different default programs for different video file extensions. All types of videos are Videos.
Plays 1.5 MBPS full WVGA videos just fine, too. And you can just use Rock for XviD/DivX/MKV/AVIs and Stock for H.264. Don't be a lazy bum
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Then you're getting different results to me there. It doesn't play WVGA with the 4 vids I've tried, all low bitrate DivX. Greater than 480p XviD/DivX, it doesn't play without severe problems. The ~1.5Mbps vids you're referencing are DivX/XviD?
There's format and container. Containers can hold many different format vids. AVI and MKV are just containers.
Do you realize that most MKVs are in the H.264 format which it doesn't play?
And that it plays XviD/DivX format AVIs? Not MSMP4 or MP4 AVIs.
As for H.264: I use Act 1 player... after using it, it's not possible to go back to the stock player
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Try diceplayer
Try diceplayer.
My nexus-1 ( patched libOmxVdec.so )
can play 720p High 3.1 MKV+DTS file flawlessly.
Desire use same AP, i think that desire can play 720p MKV.
I've tried this too,on numerous occasions but with no success :/
I also use RockPlayer But what i do i convert all my Movies (that i watch on my Desire) with Badaboom (Nvidia's official vid converter) to a h264 file in mp4 format,and it plays perfectly [so if u have a nvidia gfx card...i strongly recommend this method,since it's ultra fast ,if u have an Ati,try xvid4psp 5.0+ converter]
Harteg said:
I would really recommend Moboplayer, get it from the market, it plays mkv's just fine on my desire
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I, too, recommend MoboPlayer. It's simple to use and supports embedded subtitles in .mkv files.
Id try arcmedia on the market it always works for me mate and its free
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I also use Moboplayer.
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juami said:
Try diceplayer.
My nexus-1 ( patched libOmxVdec.so )
can play 720p High 3.1 MKV+DTS file flawlessly.
Desire use same AP, i think that desire can play 720p MKV.
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I can confirm this. All solutions above, (rockplayer, mobo etc.) are crap in comparision to diceplayer, (that if you patch your existing lib as suggested).
I previously postet a thread on this in the general section. It really makes the phone to a "almost" perfect hd media player.
Can anyone confirm whether the DHD offers native divx / avi playback it does this require third party software such as rockplayer or mplayer?
It requires software codecs to play those file types
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No great sweat. Rock player works well on the Desire so can only assume it will be excellent on the dhd!
I dropped few divx on mine without any third party software and it plays it and good too
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I dropped few divx on mine without any third party software and it plays it and good too
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Interesting to hear, thanks. I didn't think it supported such formats out of the box.
dont waste your time with rockplayer, it loses sync all the time now and the dev wont trasferre your licence when you change phones.
im currently using vplayer alpha - it free and tbh excellent app. ive not noticed any sync problems since loading it, and it handles 720p with no problems.
give it a try
Just to confirm that DivX/Xvid plays natively, however, I tried a high bit rate video and it lagged beyond belief. I suggest you try Rockplayer or Vplayer, both are very capable.... whatever happened to Core Player for Android!
Regards.
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Just to confirm that DivX/Xvid plays natively, however, I tried a high bit rate video and it lagged beyond belief. I suggest you try Rockplayer or Vplayer both are very capable.... whatever happened to Core Player for Android!
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I agree, just tried the native player and I can feel the lagginess and the framerate is slow... Rockplayer played the same video smoothly...
I tried to play a 1,5 GB Xvid with the stock player, which wasn't a big success, then installed the free rockplayer from the market, which worked fine, excellent playback and the screensize makes it very watchable (gotta use earplugs though)
Playing 720p Flv videos with HTC Desire HD
Hi all! My main use of a smartphone is to play 720p Videos on the go. I've tried all of the last giants (Htc Desire, Sony X10, Hd2 with Android roms...) using native videos player,Rockplayer,Alphaplayer but my 720p flv videos did not play smoothly.Now I have a Samsung Vibrant, so far so good! All of my videos play with no issues.
My question is: does the Desire HD capable of playing 720p videos in flv format smoothkly (Ps:I'd like to buy it for the bigger screen and 8Mpxls)?
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Hi all! My main use of a smartphone is to play 720p Videos on the go. I've tried all of the last giants (Htc Desire, Sony X10, Hd2 with Android roms...) using native videos player,Rockplayer,Alphaplayer but my 720p flv videos did not play smoothly.Now I have a Samsung Vibrant, so far so good! All of my videos play with no issues.
My question is: does the Desire HD capable of playing 720p videos in flv format smoothkly (Ps:I'd like to buy it for the bigger screen and 8Mpxls)?
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why dont you just re-encode it to a file format that takes less powered to decode ?
Hi. Because I have more than 500 Go of movies, mangas and many things in 720p flv format so I don't have time to change them when I want to travel.
I might be wrong but I THINK the SGS is king when it comes to movie playback and the formats supported out of the box.
I can't speak for the DHD yet as I don't have one but I'm sure someone will be able to check this out for you.
Id also like to know were Core media player for android went.
Wonder if it ever will get released.
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I might be wrong but I THINK the SGS is king when it comes to movie playback and the formats supported out of the box.
I can't speak for the DHD yet as I don't have one but I'm sure someone will be able to check this out for you.
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Is true, the SGS plays everything without problems. It handles full dvd 720p mkv`s like a champ, even with dts sound. I hope DHD can, as in terms of power it could handle them too.
Can anyone confirm if the dhd can handle the same as above?
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Can anyone confirm if the dhd can handle the same as above?
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No, it can't. The DHD (as stated in the specifications) does not play mkv files out of the box. It's capable of decoding the video stream (which is h264) but the audio is ac3 which is a no go with the stock player. I tried vplayer but the results are disappointing - it's like a slowmotion video. What you can do is reencode the files copying the video stream and encoding the audio to aac, and saving it in mp4 format. It takes a couple of minutes for half hour movie, so it's no trouble at all. Still you might be careful what bitrates you encode since the DHD has to have some limit on that.
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Thanks all for the feed back! Now I think that it's better for me to stay with my Vibrant for watching my HD videos (even if I like the 8Mpxls and dual led flash of the Desire HD). However it's just impossible to have the perfect smartphone isn'it? My dream: I hope some day we will have an Android phone with 12Mpxls 25 mm wide angle, Full HD recording and playback in any formats (specially flv for me), 4,3 inch or bigger screen with 1280X720 resolution and MEGA AMOLED!!!
Keep on dreaming
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I hear that divx is supported by the dhd out of the box, just wondered if anyone had managed to get divx / avi to play from a pc on the network using the 'connected media' option within videos... is this possible?