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Athena 2, Thoth, thoth 100 - When will it be available

Good day,
I am a current X7501 user on ATT in the USA and wonder if anyone has an update a to when the next Athena will become available in the US that will work on the ATT’s wireless network?
Of course asking HTC got me the usual "We will be glad to assist you with this question.... unfortunately we cannot comment on yet to be released products"
Anyone have anything they would care to share?
Also curious if MS Voice command will work with WM 6.5?
Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Claude H.

I have read on the internet that HTC have scrapped plans to make the Toth (at least as we know it as a 5 inch device). The HTC Leo is supposedly its successor and a 4.3 inch clamshell device. I hope I am wrong but that is my understanding.

I heard the same thing
So sad! I've been saving my pennies for its supposed release this year... we'll see :\
I <3 my athena!

I mentioned this before based on my observations...because of poor sales of the X7510...HTC might be reluctant to add a successor to the Athena line. You can't blame the public, HTC's designers are stupid to think that a few additions to the X7510 will make it a hit. Not to mention their stupid idea of taking off the hardware buttons and joystick design.
The HTC Leo...according to others will probably have a slider keyboard. To be honest, I prefer a clamshell type. Nonetheless the specs are marvelous. Let us hope the device actually will be mass produced then released to the public, and not just be left on the drawing board.
I still am hoping that HTC will release a proper successor to the HTC Universal with a powerful processor in clamshell design.

Thanks for the info.
I am looking forward to a large screen WM HTC phone to replace my x7501. Leo or Thoth seem to fit the bill at the moment. I did not see any other large screen WM phones about, so HTC it is.
Anyone have a clue as to when either might hit the sales channel and/or if ATT will pick up the Leo as an offeing or not.
I did not find any info on ETA for either phone on the net.
Thanks people for your input n this.
BTW: Did you all hear about WM 6.5 including "TellMe" voice command software. Too cool.
Thanks,
Claude H.
Claude H.

Anyone have any more news or infor on the Thoth or Leo?

The HTC Leo doesn't appear to be a clamshell, and I doubt a keyboard, but September may reveal more info and whether there will be a Thoth.
I suspect that the Thoth if it does come out (and I hope it will), will be the same specification as the Leo, but of course the larger screen, but the larger battery is the greatest benefit.
http://ai.rs/2009/08/htc-leo-picures-surface/
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-leo-rendered-again-maybe-by-htc-more-likely-by-fans/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/

Do you have any news?
I am waiting for the Thoth... I hope they will release it and I hope it will have normale audio in addition to stereo speakerphones... I have an Athena 7500 and when my bluetooth ends its battery I am always lost... the size of the Thoth will make it a killer app!!

It would be a smart move for HTC to reconsider development of the Thoth 100. They seem to have been ahead of their time in maxed-out, big-screened mobile os gadgets game, I.e. now we have the iPad, the maxed out iphone, the dell mini 5, the maxed out android, the samsung mondi, the maxed out winmo classic, all pretty much filling in the nitch that the Athena, the maxed-out winmo professional pioneered.
Now would definitely be a great time for them to remind us of this fact with the Thoth 100, marketted as the original mega-convergent device that's also, as was always, still a kindle killer.
C'mon htc!

Yeah, I am really dissappointed that we didn't see something at CES. Maybe the Euro mobile phone world congress? It is less than 2 weeks off...

confused on gpu statistics..

Hello dear atrix 4g community!
I am seriously thinking of purchasing this device ,but the yesterday's ipad gpu perfomance I was baffled..
so I would really appreciate some answers on tech info before I make a purchase..
tegra 2 includes a single core gpu while ,from what I read sgx543 is around 50% faster than tegra 2 per CORE! 2 cores included in said product..don't get me wrong..atrix is already plenty..no...more than plenty fast, but paying all that money for a device outspecced by 200% ,a week after release,just does not sit well with me..so my question is....are those numbers I hear/read real,and thus should wait for a tegra 3 phone??especially considering the locked bootloader which equals NO rom support other than motorola's (rotflmfao) ...please share your knowledge!thanks in advance..
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I may be wrong, but the Tegra 2 has 8 gpu cores, while the Ipad 2s has 16...
Should be at least 150% better

Well a single core SGX540 keeps up with the 8 core ULV GeForce in the Tegra 2, and the SGX543 even in single core form outperforms the 540 by a wide shot so...

Don't be this guy:
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(its a joke)

haahah! I often thought how ridiculous it would look to make phone call from a tablet..that's what he looks like he is doing!on a side note,I am kind of an apple hater!
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Don't be this guy:
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anyway,back to serious so what I had read so far was true..I guess I will wait...wow.it really must be weird though...I believe that actually all ces 2011 were outpaced only a few days after the event ended..what must be even worse is the adreno 220...what a joke, 400% less fillrate per CORE vs the competition, yawza..anyway,motorola has a history of bringing ti powered androids, I will wait for one of them I guess or wait to see how tegra 3 will do..
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Lol, just putting this out there. If you try to wait for technology to stop evolving, you're screwed. Don't not buy one product because of something coming down th line. The Ipdad 2 will suck in august compared to kal el. The adreno 220 will suck compared to adreno 300.
You have to realize most modern tech has a shelf-life of maybe 3 months. The only exception ever was the HTC evo, which is still a good phone due to it being so far ahead of it's time.

I understand this well my friend..I am not looking for miracles...just this time around, t2 phones got outpaced in pretty much a week's time...so that has to be factored in,when you are paying this type of budget..am I right?I am not looking for a perfect phone,but not one left two generations behind either,by the time of purchase (again..I am not saying that t2 is slow..I know better than that )
Techcruncher said:
Lol, just putting this out there. If you try to wait for technology to stop evolving, you're screwed. Don't not buy one product because of something coming down th line. The Ipdad 2 will suck in august compared to kal el. The adreno 220 will suck compared to adreno 300.
You have to realize most modern tech has a shelf-life of maybe 3 months. The only exception ever was the HTC evo, which is still a good phone due to it being so far ahead of it's time.
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HTC Zeta, 2.5GHz Quad-Core CPU & ICS

HTC Zeta rendered, rumored to pack 2.5GHz quad-core CPU and Ice Cream Sandwich
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We just got handed imagery and specs of a possible HTC device in the works codenamed the Zeta. It's a quad-core handset, much like the Edge that was leaked last week, but it has a much faster 2.5GHz APQ8064 CPU along with 1GB of RAM running the show, on a 4.5-inch 720p HD display. According to our source, the uniquely shaped smartphone will come with Ice Cream Sandwich pre-installed with Sense UI (version 4.0 wasn't specified, but we'd be surprised to see it any lower on an ICS device) and have 32GB of internal storage space, an 1,830mAh battery, Beats Audio, Bluetooth 4.0, an 8MP rear camera with dual LED flash, 1080p video capture and a 1.3MP front-facing cam. Dimensions? We have those, too: the Zeta is said to measure at 109.8 x 60.9 x 9.8mm (4.32 x 2.4 x 0.39 inches) and weigh 5.15 ounces (146g). Pricing and availability aren't known, and we're still digging for more info. It certainly has an intriguing look; the sharp corners would be a huge departure from HTC's recent design choices, though it appears to have HTC's signature unibody build in the back. So are we just looking at a cool concept or is this the next flagship phone? We're hoping it's the latter.
Source: Engadget

can we merge these two? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348603

kioshi said:
can we merge these two? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348603
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Crap...goes to show how well I looked over the page. I wouldn't have created this thread had I seen that one.

justsayinbro said:
Crap...goes to show how well I looked over the page. I wouldn't have created this thread had I seen that one.
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No worries man. It happens.
Yours has the image embedded, which is more suitable for lazy people like myself

Lol. Thxz.
Zeta looks to be kick ass. Battery is stepped up nicely as well (for HTC).

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Crap...goes to show how well I looked over the page. I wouldn't have created this thread had I seen that one.
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Haha, it's all good man, I like the picture in there better too.
Anyways, this thing looks sharp! I wonder how it'd feel to actually hold it though. And 2.5GHz, quad-core is a ridiculous amount of processor power for a phone, it's crazy.

Yeah and the 2.5ghz??? My laptop sits at 2.1ghz...I could probably use Solidworks or Adobe Illustrator off of this phone sitting in class haha.
I wish they would up the camera sensors on it and bump up to Asia's megapixel and lens technology...13 megapixels and LUMIX lens~

kioshi said:
Yeah and the 2.5ghz??? My laptop sits at 2.1ghz...I could probably use Solidworks or Adobe Illustrator off of this phone sitting in class haha.
I wish they would up the camera sensors on it and bump up to Asia's megapixel and lens technology...13 megapixels and LUMIX lens~
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They should just make it a damn tablet with these specs, lol. Give it about a 2-inch bigger screen, it'll pass as a nice small, powerful, tablet

This would be more powerful then my laptop. I think its time to get a new one.
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all we need there is USB port, and joystick ti stick in it and play PES

I didn't see this thread, I post another one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19403897#post19403897

also needs hdmi out,gorilla glass,3d camera and display like the supersonic

nice baby
Amazing, powerful, will wait to see more to comes up to 2012.

wait this is for a PHONE? Holy crap ..... this would be better off in a tablet I think ... bt hey, some people crave power, so why not sell it to them?

This will probably be my next phone

chinese copy note with ics and the price

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14302234703
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ram rom 512MB
480*800
has no s pen
and 1450RMB = 172euros.....=230dollars
holly**** chinese will rule.

he said it was android4.0 but i dont sure.
maybe just a ics UI,maybe a real ics.

512MB ram, 624MHz + 260MHz processor, 480x800 resolution! Yeah, definately a beast. Samsung watch out, the Chinese strike again...
Oh, and it says Android 4.0 UI, I doubt it actually runs ICS.

bioweb said:
512MB ram, 624MHz + 260MHz processor, 480x800 resolution! Yeah, definately a beast. Samsung watch out, the Chinese strike again...
Oh, and it says Android 4.0 UI, I doubt it actually runs ICS.
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+1 I sincerely hope the original poster was sarcastic or I despair about our youth.
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GooPhone...lol, that's probably the best part

bioweb said:
512MB ram, 624MHz + 260MHz processor, 480x800 resolution!
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Perfectly adequate for quite many uses. Not a gaming machine by a long shot, but for example someone with poor vision would definitely like the large screen, and with those specs it would browse the web just fine, handle e-mail and so on.
Oh, and it says Android 4.0 UI, I doubt it actually runs ICS.
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Atleast its specs are fine for ICS, and ICS is just as easy to compile as GB, so I see no reason why not.

It's probably adequate for minor tasks but such a large screen and a relatively low resolution on a low quality screen, I don't know... Definately not "holy ****" as far as I'm concerned. I doubt it's equiped with a decent GPU and that's one of the major requirements for running ICS.
Chances are it isn't even running Android, there are dozens of Chinese iPhone clones running a simple phone OS with iPhone icons and look.
Besides, how much support can you expect from these Chinese copycats as even the major companies are still struggling to update their top models to ICS?
Oh well, you get what you pay for I guess.
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Compairing this and the original is obviously pointless. Yes, some people in China might buy it and yes, I'm sure they'll get some profit out of it.
As far as I'm concerned...I just wanna know if it's running real ICS. If it is...then I'm a bit pissed with our ORIGINAL Samsung devices

bioweb said:
I doubt it's equiped with a decent GPU and that's one of the major requirements for running ICS.
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No, it's not. ICS can run even without any hardware-acceleration at all.
Chances are it isn't even running Android, there are dozens of Chinese iPhone clones running a simple phone OS with iPhone icons and look.
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The MediaTek MTK6573 SoC is a fairly popular chip in use on hundreds of different existing Android-phones, there is no reason why it would suddenly run a non-Android OS on this one.
EDIT: Additional information here. Its video-playback capabilities are pretty poor and it only supports FWVGA resolutions, but aside from that it even sports a crude 3D-accelerator, and all the usual goodies like FM-radio, GPS, bluetooth, 802.11n, etc.

Xiaomi MI-2

http://asia.cnet.com/xiaomi-mi2-quad-core-android-smartphone-announced-62218345.htm
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/first-photos-of-the-xiaomi-mi-2.17591/
I think I just found my new phone, upgrading from SGS2. The specs blow away any phone right now.
* Qualcomm 8064 CPU (Quadcore)
* 2GB RAM
* 16GB ROM
* Graphics processing comparable to the XBOX 360 (Adreno 320 graphics chip)
* 2000 mAh 3000 mAh battery upgrades
* 4.3 inches high PPI retina screen, 1280x720 resolution. The touch screen to do (the OGS / TOL), the single glass fit technology, Ultra Narrow design to protect the glass.
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Not sure if it has expandable storage. But by currency conversion it works out: $315/£200!!
Should be released in October. Hope it works in UK

Nice phone! If only we could get it for under $400 shipped in USA. Hopefully works for T-Mobile....

even anand is blown away
Xiaomi Mi-2 - the worlds fastest smartphone with xbox 360 graphics
Impressive specs
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...nnounces-miui-phone-mitwo-with-apq8064-inside
http://www.xiaomi.com/mi2
90fps

I wonder if this will have solid rom AOSP/ROM support... you might imagine so considering it's running MIUI out of the box.
Also, battery life.

Will it have an english MIUI available though?

Great specs, especially love the option for 3000mAh albeit with an extra 2mm thickness. But no mention of an SD card slot?? 16GB inside is fine but not enough for me on the whole.

I want one so bad! Hopefully we can manage to get them here in the US for under $400... It's beautiful.

MicShadow said:
Will it have an english MIUI available though?
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Yes it will.
Just wondering if it will work in the UK

Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
Apparently this company has some very interesting marketing strategies, the price is apparently more so an initial head turner and far from permanent. Supply is also iffy.
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Only missing feature is NFC, but hard to complain about at that price with those specs. Even if it comes in at $450 or so in the end that's around the Xperia P range so not out of sorts. We'll see if they release the goodies for the devs to tinker with.

Has this gone on sale in China? Maybe one of the Chinese users could clear our queries with regards to this phone. I'm chiefly concerned about the following things:
1. English support (should mostly have)
2. AOSP support (almost certainly might have)
3. Build quality and spares!!
Damn it I live in India and we are China's neighbours. Start selling you phones here guys!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30418051#post30418051

lnfound said:
Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
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Disagree, for that price it will be a wow factor at that time of release and a few months after release

you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
I'm giving this a try :silly:
http://www.androidforcheap.com/note...3-os-wcdma-3g-gps-wifi-smart-phone-p-310.html
or this
http://www.androidforcheap.com/i930...-pixel-camera-micro-sim-card-phone-p-453.html
amazing what they can produce here :cyclops:

don't expect aosp support as they will probably never release the kernel source. the first one was okay... many of my friends have them but.although they get updates every week they still seem to be only about 75 stable.. the new one has me interested from a cheap hardware angle but I like beingable to choose my own Rom

@joshofbass
what do you mean by "they still seem to be only about 75 stable"?
reboots? freeze? I need a dual sim so that i don't have to lug around 3 phones

NFC??
Does anyone know if the MI-2 supports NFC technology?
I have seen many websites which write the specs and other useful information,but none is mentioning whether or not it has a nfc chip.

NFC is not listed in the specs on the official homepage. Neither is microsd support, btw ...

the best phone!

mengfei said:
you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
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Already sold out