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TouchPal wont show after a while

Hi folks
I love this forum and am so glad its here, it seems to be the only place where ppl can get support for the HD right now.
I am using the TouchPal keyboard 3.5. It installed fine and I started using it and configuring it grand etc. But after a while it stops responding.
If I click on the small keyoard icon at the bottom of my screen, no keyboard pops up whatsoever. If I go to settings and change the default keyboard from TouchPal to say - Full Querty and press OK, the change does not take place (If I go back into settings, the keyboard is reset to TouchPal).
So I am left wthout a keyboard and I have to do a full restart of the phone. If I uninstall TouchPal all is well and the keyboard system reverts back to working normally.
Has anyone else expereinced similar ?
Many thanks for any help
gt

iv got version 3.5 aswel, iv had no problems with it
the only problem i have is that, in landscape mode the key sizes dont increase, it appears small, but never the less a great keyboard

Hi xdaman85
Try running Remote Desktop and see if the keyboard behaves there, thats where it dies on me.

gt112 said:
Hi xdaman85
Try running Remote Desktop and see if the keyboard behaves there, thats where it dies on me.
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just tried that, no problem what so ever
try this
uninstall, soft reset, install, soft reset, then go to settings, inputs, choose touchpal as default keyboard, then press ok, then soft reset
i know thats long but it should do the trick, seems to me as if that it wasnt installed correctly and theres some errors, so try what i said and let me know if it works

OK guys, it seems I am not alone in having prolems with TouchPal on the HD. See this thread on CoolTek's forum.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=742&PN=1
I have tried everything, I have uninstalled the kb, reinstalled it. Last night I completely reinstalled the entire phone (hard reset, wipe, reistall) but TouchPal still stops working after a while.

gt112 said:
OK guys, it seems I am not alone in having prolems with TouchPal on the HD. See this thread on CoolTek's forum.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=742&PN=1
I have tried everything, I have uninstalled the kb, reinstalled it. Last night I completely reinstalled the entire phone (hard reset, wipe, reistall) but TouchPal still stops working after a while.
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just the thread, i guess your right, your not alone...but..its still wierd as iv been using touchpal since last wednesday and its still working fine for me
could it be that touchpal is conflicting with another keyboard on the device?
Have you gone to settings/inputs and selected touchpal as the keyboard?
I cant think of any other ideas because its working perfectly for me

Thanks xdaman
Just done a new re-install and it seems ok now. TBH I am now using the version from Cooltek so I may have had myself to blame.
On another note, I am having probs setting custom commands, I have the followig questions, can anyone offer any wisdom ?
You can setup custom commands such as Ctrl+z etc. They can be stored in place holders accessed by tab+downslide on the Control Tab button (the one with the 4 arrows). The instructions for creating custom command scan be found in the manual (section 4.2) here
Here are my questions
1. How do you create a combination command? e.g. They have a built in command called "Select All && Copy". This is 2 commands. How do you create this ?
2. After I mess up all my command buttons. How do I reset them to their defaults ?
3. When I create a command, Is Flag5 the ASCII key code? The manual is not specific on this. Also, if Flag5 is the ASCII code, why do I need to then enter the Alphabet index of the letter ?
4. I only seem to be able to edit the top Custom command button. If I try and assign values to the lower buttons, the edit appears in the top button. Is this a bug ?

cant install/wont install
downloaded the cab file..after it ran..it looks like explorer window pops up and tried to o something..anyway it says the page cant be found..tried loading in both card and local and get the same response..it does tell me the it was unsuccessful in loading
i gues its the lastest becuase i downloaded from the site
gt112 said:
Hi folks
I love this forum and am so glad its here, it seems to be the only place where ppl can get support for the HD right now.
I am using the TouchPal keyboard 3.5. It installed fine and I started using it and configuring it grand etc. But after a while it stops responding.
If I click on the small keyoard icon at the bottom of my screen, no keyboard pops up whatsoever. If I go to settings and change the default keyboard from TouchPal to say - Full Querty and press OK, the change does not take place (If I go back into settings, the keyboard is reset to TouchPal).
So I am left wthout a keyboard and I have to do a full restart of the phone. If I uninstall TouchPal all is well and the keyboard system reverts back to working normally.
Has anyone else expereinced similar ?
Many thanks for any help
gt
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HTC SIPs stuck on numeric input?

Hi all,
I'm having a problem with the HTC SIPs (Full Qwerty and Compact Qwerty) - they're both stuck on numeric input and won't switch back to text input mode.
ie, I click on the "ABC" button and nothing happens. I therefore can't enter anything other than numbers and symbols!
Has anyone else seen this issue? I'm having to use PCM Keyboard in the meantime, which is frustrating as it doesn't have easy access to "." etc.
Thanks
J

PCM Keyboard prevents the HTC SIPs from working properly. Either remove PCK Keyboard or try the latest version (0.19)

I have the same problem
I have the same problem.
I haven't installed any additional keyboard software, and suddenly my text keyboard is stuck on numerics.
I have a feeling this may have been something to do with the latest firmware from HTC that I've recently installed.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Pete

Petee said:
I have the same problem.
I haven't installed any additional keyboard software, and suddenly my text keyboard is stuck on numerics.
I have a feeling this may have been something to do with the latest firmware from HTC that I've recently installed.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Pete
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Do you have HD Tweak installed?
this will happen if you enable T9

Sorted
Yep, that was it
Sorted - Thankyouverymuchsir

okay so I too now have this same problem, originally I had Dutty's Leo R6 on my phone with HDTweak so I decided to reflash my phone with Dutty's Leo R7 and this time not install HDTweak and see if it works.... But even after doing that, I still keep getting all 3 types of the keyboard inputs stuck on numbers and symbols. after a soft reset whenever I try and type in a text, the first time it usually works fine. But after I have sent the 1st message or just returned to the home tab and try to write another msg, all input keyboards are stuck. Note: I can temporarily fix it by clicking on a previous message, waiting for the menu to popup from the threaded view and then closing it, but after writing that message it will revert back to being stuck
So no HDTweak installed, using new HTC Messaging App, have turned off T9 Autocompletion + Symbol Lock under Input Options and I have also tried installing geniusgeng's cab here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486187&highlight=[solution]+qwerty+keyboard but that doesn't work...any thoughts on how I can fix this with something more permanent?
Thanks

Not sure of any reg tweaks, but why don't you install HD Tweak and then disable T9

Hey, thanks for the amazingly fast reply!!!
okay so I just tried reinstalling HDTweak again and disabling T9, but its still not working I keep having the same trouble. I have also tried all different combinations of disabling T9 only in HDTweak, or both HDTweak and under Input Options and only in Input Options and so on.... but the problem doesn't seem to get resolved.
I have experimented some more and it turns out that the keyboard will only get stuck when I go to the messages tab and click on a text I received to reply to it. If i go to the messages tab and create a new message (where I have to enter in the contact and can't see the threaded msgs) then the keyboard is fine all the time. Does anyone else have this same problem as well, or is it just me?
I would really prefer to be able to quickly reply to texts instead of creating new messages every time...gonna try disabling the htc messaging app (was going to anyway cause it takes waaaay too loooong lol) and see if that magically works
Thanks again!

I had a similar problem and fixed it
I logged on here to see if someone could tell me how to fix my issue, but it is regarding an HTC HD2, not a Blackberry. My problem was similar but not exactly the same. My phone somehow permanently got stuck on Xt9, which I hate and am worthless at using. I couldn't seem to find the answer anywhere online so i'm writing my experience here in case it helps anyone.
Hitting the XT9 / ABC button did NOTHING to fix it. Even though the button would visually change from XT9 to ABC and back, when I hit it (it would change to a green color), the keys themselves would not change at all, and i was stuck looking at keys that make zero sense to me qw... er...ty... ui.... it was like a bad nightmare. I have no idea how I managed to get it stuck on this (sorry I know most of you techies probably have no problem with it but I am just not very tech savvy).
I tried taking out my battery, popping the sim card in and out several times, restarting. Sounds stupid but I didn't know what else to do as I couldn't find any solutions online. Finally called tmobile.
First the rep told me to try going to Settings > Locale and Text > Text Input. She asked what my settings were on, I said ABC. She told me to turn it to XT9 instead, then close out the screen, go back, then switch back to ABC. I did that, and no dice. I figured either the settings are frozen or I'm cursed.
Then she had me go to the screen to write a text msg. When your cursor is in the text box to write in, you will see a little keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen. There's a little arrow next to it. Click on that arrow. That brought up the options of Full QWERTY and Compact QWERTY, and apparently somehow my phone got switched to Compact QWERTY. So I switched back, and that fixed it.
So yeah, apparently there are a couple of different ways to change it.
I wanted to hug this woman through the phone, i was so relieved to be able to text again (I could not write out one single word while on Compact QWERTY). I'm not sure if going this route can help anyone else but it was the answer for me. There may be other options for you when you click on the arrow next to the keyboard.
Good luck!

Having problems selecting QWERTY keyboard.

Hi!
I received a Touch HD few days ago and from the first time I noticed that something doesn’t works properly.
Initially the keyboard by default was the QWERTY one. I changed it to probe the compact one. I did the change with no problems (obviously was not a difficult issue). Well not so obviously because the problem was when I tried to return to full QWERTY keyboard.
I selected the fullQWERTY in the configuration menu, I pushed the OK button but when I tried to write a new message the compact keyboard was still there. I tried to change to any other keyboard but the result was the same. I haven’t installed any keyboard so is not a software incompatibility issue.
I reset the phone, check for rom updates, etc but I cannot select QWERTY keyboard. I have search about this but the only information I found is a post in this forum with no answer.
Please, any information about a possible solution will be greatly appreciated. Just imagine a wonderful HD without its QWERTY keyboard…
Thank you very much.

I have the same issue. A full reset did fix it but then it randomly happened again. Obviously that's not ideal!
Any ideas anyone?
Might it be worth an email to htc?

You checked for ROM updates using? I'm sure there is some registry key but not really certain.
Regards,
Carty..

I have encounter the same issue. I have found out that if you go through setting and select keyboard to change..it will not work...
It seems that touchflo took over the registry.....
Now the correct way to change your keyboard is to
1. press your keypad up.
2. you should see this little arrow beside the your keypad icon
3. when you tap the arrow you will see this menu pop up to pick the keyboard layout.
This is the ONLY WAY to change the keypad
Hope this helps
JuanQ said:
Hi!
I received a Touch HD few days ago and from the first time I noticed that something doesn’t works properly.
Initially the keyboard by default was the QWERTY one. I changed it to probe the compact one. I did the change with no problems (obviously was not a difficult issue). Well not so obviously because the problem was when I tried to return to full QWERTY keyboard.
I selected the fullQWERTY in the configuration menu, I pushed the OK button but when I tried to write a new message the compact keyboard was still there. I tried to change to any other keyboard but the result was the same. I haven’t installed any keyboard so is not a software incompatibility issue.
I reset the phone, check for rom updates, etc but I cannot select QWERTY keyboard. I have search about this but the only information I found is a post in this forum with no answer.
Please, any information about a possible solution will be greatly appreciated. Just imagine a wonderful HD without its QWERTY keyboard…
Thank you very much.
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Full Qwerty Keyboard turns into number keypad

Whenever a sms is open, the touch screen keyboard that is opened is supposed to be full qwerty. However, mine has turned in a number keypad. There is no way i can change to full qwerty again. I can change into transcriber, block recognizer, letter recongnizer but cannot revert back into qwerty. How can this be?
Even a soft-reset cannot solve this. Can anyone help? Thanks

If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave

Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....

DaveShaw said:
If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave
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Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.

michi123 said:
Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....
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Hi michi, I never use HD tweak and T9 option before. Only use qwerty and hardware keyboard only. This number keypad just appeared out of nowhere.

st8800 said:
Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.
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Oh well, worth a shot...
Try the other guys suggestions
Dave

See... funny thing is that 5hrs ago, I backed up the device. During this time, I did not install any software and hardly used the phone except for some sms and inputing new contact info. Suddenly, the qwerty keypad input doesn't appear any more.
I just restored my backup and the qwerty keypad is up again. Hope someone knows what is going on, if not, I have to backup everyday!!!

It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"

I have same problem
I give up on the keyboard for now. Not sure what broke it and I didn't backup everyday. Registry looks a bit different for me.

I did this previously at it work very well.
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Originally Posted by beemerTPPC
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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Today it happened again.... lucky I backup last night. 1 hour ago everything was still working. Again.... no new software or settings changed. What could be the problem?
I checked the settings are still the same.... now even suggested words don't appear.
Sigh... until a solution can be found... I just have to keep doing backup / restore....

mikeinashed said:
It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"
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I cant choose eT9ime.dll because I really like the suggested words to appear.

This works form every time
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0

cjatcti said:
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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Hmm... strange my CurrentET9Style was set at 8. What does this change do?

thanks. I had the same problem on my HTC Fuze.
This helped: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
but I have a different problem. (had this before the reg edit)
my problem is: If I write hello it'll automaically become hellHello... and if I write it it'll become iIt.. I switched off capitalization but tht didn;t help!!

Worked!!
This reg change did it for me cheers!!!!

cjatcti said:
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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I just started having this same problem today. I tried cjatcti remedy, and it worked so far . QWERTY keyboard is back to normal. If the phone keyboard comes back, I'll let you all know.

Excellent work. Worked very well so now I have the word selection and the keyboard I like. THANKS

Wish
I would have seen this thread before I hard reset.

Changing the CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 works ... but once I go into, say edit a contact, then the number pad will re-appear again. The registry key is modified back to 1 again ... any quick trick to stop this? really don't want to change the key again and again...

I use my Kaiser with the ROM PDA Corner Ultimate X-v9 a six months ago without any problem. Today i saw the first page of the forum the application SMSer from "oldsap". I found interesting and tried to install. Soon after the installation I was testing it and realized that I had the same problem as everyone here. Changing CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 solved my problem. I think in my case the problem appeared after the installation of SMSer, so i uninstaled and my QWERTY is working normal now.

Turn off XT9 permanently and stop it from interfering with Swype?

I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.

Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?

I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps

Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...

That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...

Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.

I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.

Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.

Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.

weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.

I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?

I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?