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First off, to eliminate the flamers 1)I know you don't need to partition your SD Card (i've been running android on 2 SD cards for around a month now) 2)I know it won't make my device run any faster.
The question is though If i partition my memory card to have the 3 partitons: ext, linux swap, and fat32, will this mean that on the main part of the memory card that my windows mobile can see that i won't have all of the various folders that the Android OS creates (i.e: .android_secure, .bookmark_thumb1, rosie_scroll?
The reason i ask is i want to have my memory card as clean as possible so that within my windows mobile build that it is still very organized.
Thanks for any help you can offer. If you are going to reply simply to say use the search, I have, I've read and thank you very much, you can now move on to the next topic to type that.
I also have the same question.
How get clean memmory card from Android folders?
Or how to install Android in folder (sdcard/Android/all android folders)
Than my WM folders will use (sdcard/WM folders)
I second either of these as to keep my mem card tidy from all the android folders created and mixed up with my WM files.
Well since no one seems to know the answer or isn't willing to share, I am going to try doing this within the next two days and will report back on whether or not it works.
How would each OS know what partition belongs to it?
gaiden0000 said:
Well since no one seems to know the answer or isn't willing to share, I am going to try doing this within the next two days and will report back on whether or not it works.
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Nice to hear that! I think there is 2 ways:
with partition on sdcard
change Android install place to place in folder
Somone who build Android roms can try to change location where android install apps.
juggs said:
How would each OS know what partition belongs to it?
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If you crate partition for linux (ext...) windows will not show, read and find it.Also WM will not read files on linux partition but I think that linux still will read both. Dono how it is on Android but in Ubuntu on PC it works.
SD partitioning works great!
This is how to create partitions on your SD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267475
I tried it - and it works. WinMo shows two storage cards - 'Storage Card' and 'Storage Card 2'. The first one is the Active partition - which is my Android partition.
When you are in WinMo and installing WinMo software, you are given the choice of where to install it - and it shows both storage cards. So in effect you can have all that is WinMo on one partition and all that is Android on another. Android is working nicely from its own partition.
I must say - this is the first time my Android is working sooooooo well. As well as my wife's HTC Desire device. It is a noticeable difference - the same Android build worked quite sluggishly before this exercise. It is either because I am using a freshly formatted partition, or because it has its own partition now.
My partitions were formatted with FAT32, 32KB unit allocation size. I am using ChuckyDroid ROM and currently testing this Android build Core_Droid_V.0.2.
Yeey ! " ... after action - satisfaction .. "
Another thread, i think i'm a totally noOb
Today, i downloaded Wildpuzzle Rom .. and flashed it ... everything went fine
I used this tutorial...
http://baert.ulyssis.be/2010/10/13/wildpuzzle-rom-for-htc-wildfire/
this was okay...but in the 4. point ... "Creating an EXT partition on the SDCard"
there was a problem ... after i selected the fat32 and ext2 size, and the phone rebooted .... i had an error message .... "E:failed to seek in /cache/update.zip" ...
i've tried a lots of time...always rom manager failed to made the right partitions...
so i moved on, and i tried to made the partitions with manually in windows xp
i've downloaded Paragon Partition Manager 9.0 to do the partitioning....
After i had the 2 partition, 1500MB Fat32 and 300MB ext2, the pc rebooted to make the changes .... and then i had an error message (i can't remember, cause it dissapeared quickly).....
when xp started again i saw my sd card is not working .... windows said, "You must format the SD card" .... and it was only 512 kbyte the full size
i tried a lots of applications, which recovery, or fix sd cards, but nothing helped :/
any solution?!
i wouldn't like to throw away my sdcard if its not necesarry
thx.
lazlo
Try gparted, linux boot cd, make fat32 partition first then make ext3 partition no need for swap on phone
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i have tried gparted, in ubuntu live cd, but when i insert the sd card to the reader nothnig happen ... and gparted stop working :S .. its freeze or something like that
Did you try to delete the partition and creating a new drive? Like when you buy a new disc... You have to create a new partition and a new logical drive...
You can use Paragon partition manager...
I guess gparted was loading, it take a little while to read the entire HDD.
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LogicXLz' said:
Did you try to delete the partition and creating a new drive? Like when you buy a new disc... You have to create a new partition and a new logical drive...
You can use Paragon partition manager...
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No thx, Paragon partition manager killed my SD card ... so i won't use that app again, never...
But meanwhile, i could fix the SD card with Ubuntus's gParted ... i've tried a lots of time ... reinserted the card to the reader .... and finaly it recognised it ... and can made a valid partition ... so the problem solved
anyway, thx the idea
A very simple and quick solution to this kind of problem (for other users / future reference, now that you've solved it): put it in your photo/video camera and format it. This would do a low-level format of the SD card, allowing you to see and use it in Windows. Any camera with this function will do (Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc.)
phunctionist said:
A very simple and quick solution to this kind of problem (for other users / future reference, now that you've solved it): put it in your photo/video camera and format it. This would do a low-level format of the SD card, allowing you to see and use it in Windows. Any camera with this function will do (Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc.)
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thx a lot dude ... this is a simple and a good idea
never would thought this
Good one!!! It is a very simple solution. However if it works with "camera formating", then the issue with SD card is not too bad. I mean, it's not corrupted in a way to be unusable or "bricked" in some way.
And thus, I think you needn't even bother using some other gadget, just a sufficient knowledge on partitioning tools and you can make it work on your computer. I still believe it could be repaired with Paragon Partition... 've been using that program ever since and never had any problems...
Anyway, the more options avaliable, the more possibilities for a success! ;-)))
Hello,
is it necessary to format the SD Card before installing Android? Or different question: I want still be able to run WinMo on my HTC HD2 Leo and use all my programs I've installed on the SD Card - can I copy all files on the SD-Card to my PC, install Android and copy them back?
Thanks so much!
Android-on-HD2-Newbie-also-known-as-Gromhelm
Gromhelm said:
Hello,
is it necessary to format the SD Card before installing Android? Or different question: I want still be able to run WinMo on my HTC HD2 Leo and use all my programs I've installed on the SD Card - can I copy all files on the SD-Card to my PC, install Android and copy them back?
Thanks so much!
Android-on-HD2-Newbie-also-known-as-Gromhelm
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YES, you can
Gromhelm said:
Hello,
is it necessary to format the SD Card before installing Android? Or different question: I want still be able to run WinMo on my HTC HD2 Leo and use all my programs I've installed on the SD Card - can I copy all files on the SD-Card to my PC, install Android and copy them back?
Thanks so much!
Android-on-HD2-Newbie-also-known-as-Gromhelm
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it isn't necessary to format, tho i have seen a number of posts from people claiming to have corruption & lag issues until they did reformat, so you may want to, just to be safe.
personally ive only done a full format once, just after buying the card almost a year ago & haven't had any problems to date (touch wood)
as for still using winmo & files, you can as long as you're using an SD build
all the best
I have tried both ways and worked fine for me.
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not needed , it is optional.............i have all my winmo related files and 2 android builds running from the same card, never done a format.....working wonderfully well from the start.............ifi t doesnot work, then try format like some people say
Thanks so much!! I tried to copy everything but can't copy one file: XMEMediaLibrary.mlb (some process uses it).
So I will first try to install Android without format.
Gromhelm
Did it and no problems untill now. I am amazed by Android on HD2! Even Layar is working!!
some manufacturer will format their card with SD Association standard because SD Association think they know best about SD Card.
they even say this in http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter:
SD or SDHC memory card file systems formatted with generic operating system formatting software do not comply with official SD memory card requirements and optimum performance may not be experienced.
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what they refuse to admit is everybody has given up hopes to do anything that does not work with old Microsoft standard, long before SD Association was founded in 2000, so everything (phone, camera, mac, linux) will work if you format it with FAT32.
to be safe, after you buy any card, just use Windows to format and you can be sure it will works on any device. just select default file system and default cluster size, or just click restore device default, and you're good to go. it's so easy and you don't have to know anything.
if you wonder why android works only on 32 or 64bit cluster size, it's because that's FAT32 default cluster size depending on your card size. and one day, i predict android will also work on exFAT.
Hy every body, does some one heard about SD damaged after a FAT32/EXT4 Format?
Let me explain myself:
I've SD-FROMATTED my sd, then using GPARTED LIVE SD in my HD2 in MAGLDR
i've created two partitions:
1/ FAT32
2/ EXT4
I do have click on "apply".
Now, my SD is unreadable and unrecognized by my phone.
The oly way i have to use it now is FAT32 only.
It is the third time i do the partitioning on this SD and it's the first time it does'nt work
HEEELP!!!
I've heard about file corruption using MAGLDR USB MassStg...Is-it true
Thanks for your anwers
No answer? Nobody?
download panasonic SD Formatter 3.0 and that will sort it no probs.
matt
Try Panasonic SD Formatter as mentioned above. With the stock SD card I've had problems formatting using a card reader, however. I had to flash back to a windows mobile rom, connect to PC as a hard drive (not active sync) and re-format the card via that method. It's a pain, but try this if you're really stuck.
Thanks i'll try those methodes
i use minitool partition manager
but first go to control panes, then computer management, devices, find your sd card and right click on it. select create new disk label and that should solve your problem.
now after that run minitool partition manager and you 'll be able to see your sd car as new disk (or something) just create a new partition as (fat32, primary) format maybe that could solve your problem.
(the same thing happen to mee and i was about to cry because of it)
(sorrry for bad english, i'm still learning)
Thanks kof102. I'm on it
ttersu said:
Hy every body, does some one heard about SD damaged after a FAT32/EXT4 Format?
Let me explain myself:
I've SD-FROMATTED my sd, then using GPARTED LIVE SD in my HD2 in MAGLDR
i've created two partitions:
1/ FAT32
2/ EXT4
I do have click on "apply".
Now, my SD is unreadable and unrecognized by my phone.
The oly way i have to use it now is FAT32 only.
It is the third time i do the partitioning on this SD and it's the first time it does'nt work
HEEELP!!!
I've heard about file corruption using MAGLDR USB MassStg...Is-it true
Thanks for your anwers
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Also, as a long time Android recovery user (I went through several Android phones before coming around to the HD2), I would highly recommend formatting your card using Clockwork Recovery.
HyoImowano said:
Also, as a long time Android recovery user (I went through several Android phones before coming around to the HD2), I would highly recommend formatting your card using Clockwork Recovery.
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One problem can be that when try create a Ext partition using CWR it only creates an Ext2 which isn't really the best.
I've seen on differnt French forums that i'm not alone. Is there a Risk formatting and partitioning an SD Card, that is not done for, to damage allocation Table?
My SD is dead now. Not even my PC, my Phone or else are abble to find my SD. Have you heard about that?
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try using EASEUS Partition Master 7.0.1 Home Edition with this u will be able to see what is going on.. hope it helps.
Thanks, Have you allready heard about that befor?
I had a problem with my SD it didn't come up on my pc too,when I was playing with the dual booting partition making for wp7 and android. some how it messed up and SD didn't come up so I found this program Easeus and some how managed it to work again it was a simple problem that all I had to do is to recreate the partition and only after that u can format it. if it doesn't exist u format nothing actualy lol.
hope u have the same problem.
I've tried EASUS but it was unable to read my SD...
I think it's dead now...
I've bought an other one and part it with CWM. It's EXT2 but it work perfectly!
Maybe it could be nice to check if nobody else had the same than me...and tell it to Master COTULLA!
No body else?
Hi there, new to this forum so can't post to development forum although I searched there. I'm running Swiftdroid 1.8 / CM7 by Mur4ik on my GT540 and all works fine. The stock 2Gb SDcard that came with the phone is a bit small for my liking so I got myself a Kingston 8Gb class 4 SDHC. Unfortunately this card does not seem to be recognized by the phone, the following are the symptoms:
1. When inserting card and booting phone, mostly it gets stuck at LG boot screen.
2. Sometimes it does boot but then doesn't mount the SDcard. After boot I get a notification like "unknown filesystem on SDcard" (or similar), and do you want to format the SDcard? Yet if I try to format it using the phone, it doesn't work.
3. Checking with adb shell and "mount" I see that the SDcard is not actually mounted.
4. The card is recognized fine on a computer via USB under both Windows and linux, and I can transfer files.
5. When manually partitioning the SDcard (gparted under Ubuntu) to only contain a 4Gb partition formatted with FAT16, then it works fine and is recognized (remaining 4Gb unused). Unfortunately FAT16 is 4Gb max, so I can't format the whole card in a single FAT16 partition. Also at that size FAT16 is very space wasteful (65k cluster size) so that even a tiny file takes minimum 65k space.
6. However, when formatting this SAME partition (i.e. 4Gb) as FAT32 it is not recognized and I get the same errors as above with the single 8Gb FAT32 partition.
7. I tried reformatting the card with SD Formatter 3.0 from ---www dot sdcard dot org--- but it did not make a difference.
So it does not seem to be the card that's faulty. Has anyone else experience with using FAT32 formatted SDcards on Swiftdroid? From reading the forums this should be no problem and certainly the Linux kernel can recognize FAT32. Also there was a report of someone using a 32Gb SDHC with the GT540 although I'm not sure which firmware (stock or mod).
I haven't tried it with Stock LG 2.1 ROM but am very happy with Swiftdroid so don't want to go back to 2.1 just to get the SDcard working.
Have you formatted it as primary
Faulty SD card? ,I'm using a 8gb on swiftdroid
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I had a problem with mine too and did tons of research but mine is really death lol is other story. But tell you what first try with the best and leave small alternative fixes for later PS. I have many . Download disk parted is freeware and is a portable program no need to install. Is intuitive to use. It has a wiki if you don't know what to do with the app.
Last post, bed time!
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gizmo001i said:
Have you formatted it as primary
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Yeah sure, formatted as first primary partition.
aaa801 said:
Faulty SD card? ,I'm using a 8gb on swiftdroid
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Don't think the SD card is faulty as I can mount, format and read/write to it via usb on a computer running both Windows and Linux.
lavero.burgos said:
I had a problem with mine too and did tons of research but mine is really death lol is other story. But tell you what first try with the best and leave small alternative fixes for later PS. I have many . Download disk parted is freeware and is a portable program no need to install. Is intuitive to use. It has a wiki if you don't know what to do with the app.
Last post, bed time!
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What is the "disk parted" software you are referring to? Can't seem to find it. Can you post a link? I've tried gparted, fdisk and cfdisk under Linux, as well as SD formatter 3.0 under Windows.
I have had similar problems after changing card, that I managed to resolved after rebuliding MBR of the card and reformating the card
Use Mini Partition Wizzard (Home Edition), delete existing partitions ,select disk and rebuild MBR, than do the format.
I hope that helps, I worked for me.
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What is the "disk parted" software you are referring to? Can't seem to find it. Can you post a link? I've tried gparted, fdisk and cfdisk under Linux, as well as SD formatter 3.0 under Windows.
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Soooooooooooooooo soooooooooooooooo sorry my fault see i was sleepy and did not remember well the name the program is called TestDisk, here is the link:
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
ktmt said:
I have had similar problems after changing card, that I managed to resolved after rebuliding MBR of the card and reformating the card
Use Mini Partition Wizzard (Home Edition), delete existing partitions ,select disk and rebuild MBR, than do the format.
I hope that helps, I worked for me.
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Tried this, but it did not make a difference After trying to boot phone with newly formatted SD card, it just gets stuck at LG logo. When re-inserting the original 2Gb SD card it boots up just fine.
lavero.burgos said:
Soooooooooooooooo soooooooooooooooo sorry my fault see i was sleepy and did not remember well the name the program is called TestDisk, here is the link:
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OK, so I tried formatting the card with TestDisk (under Ubuntu linux) but again it did not help. Place freshly formatted FAT32 8Gb SDcard into phone, switch on, and it gets stuck at LG boot logo Insert original 2Gb card (FAT16) and it boots just fine....
The 8Gb card seems just fine as I can mount it under Windows and Linux, copy files, read files, etc. all normal.
So I'd be interested to hear about your many "small alternative fixes"
P.S. Also tried Mini Partition Wizard (following ktmt suggestion) under Windows, but did not work either.
SAME thing happened to me what i did is flashes some kdz files in hope to freshen up the phone and it worked for me
I think you will find that for a larger card, you really need at least a class 6 card so that the card doesn't cause a bottle neck. A class 4 card may be too slow for that size card. I have heard of a few people getting rid of any card problems they had by using a faster card.
Hi folks,
I`ve had the same problems with my sd-card on my GT540 ! (SanDisk 8GB SDHC)
So, try to solve it - the same way, I`ve solved it before !
No warranty ! And, please, do not blame me, if it will not work on your phone !
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Put the SD-CARD out of your PHONE and into an SD-CARD ADAPTER !
Plug it into your PC, make a BACKUP of all of your files !
Use GEDIT to erase all Partitions on your SD-CARD !
Create a new EXT2 Partion + Format it to EXT2 again !
Use GEDIT to erase all Partitions on your SD-CARD !
Create a new FAT32 Partition + Format it to FAT32 again !
Put the SD-CARD out of the ADAPTER and into your PHONE !
Start your PHONE, let it boot up + recognize + load your SD-CARD !
Try to make a PHOTO + to store it on your SD-CARD !
NO ERROR MESSAGES OCCURED UNTIL NOW ??? THEN EVERYTHING IS O.K: !!!
BE SURE, THAT YOU`VE INSTALLED THE LATEST CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY -
3.0.2.4 OR ABOVE + THE SWIFTDROID 2.3.3 V2.0 - BEFORE !!!
AND DO NOT USE WINDOWS7 TO TRY TO FORMAT YOUR SD-CARD - IT DOES NOT
WORK !!!
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maybe, it can also be a "pressure-error", because there are some people reporting, that they had to use a little piece of paper to get more pressure to the sd-card-retention.
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I think you will find that for a larger card, you really need at least a class 6 card so that the card doesn't cause a bottle neck. A class 4 card may be too slow for that size card. I have heard of a few people getting rid of any card problems they had by using a faster card.
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OK I'll try this, just need to get around to buying a class 6 card. I got similar advice on the Android Forums i.e. class 4 cards for large sizes (8Gb and up) being too slow for this phone.
I.me.myself said:
Hi folks,
I`ve had the same problems with my sd-card on my GT540 ! (SanDisk 8GB SDHC)
So, try to solve it - the same way, I`ve solved it before !
No warranty ! And, please, do not blame me, if it will not work on your phone !
........................................................................................................................................
Put the SD-CARD out of your PHONE and into an SD-CARD ADAPTER !
Plug it into your PC, make a BACKUP of all of your files !
Use GEDIT to erase all Partitions on your SD-CARD !
Create a new EXT2 Partion + Format it to EXT2 again !
Use GEDIT to erase all Partitions on your SD-CARD !
Create a new FAT32 Partition + Format it to FAT32 again !
Put the SD-CARD out of the ADAPTER and into your PHONE !
Start your PHONE, let it boot up + recognize + load your SD-CARD !
Try to make a PHOTO + to store it on your SD-CARD !
NO ERROR MESSAGES OCCURED UNTIL NOW ??? THEN EVERYTHING IS O.K: !!!
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This did not solve the problem, I think it's just the class 4 card being too slow.
I've similar problem. My brother and i have LG GT540. I've 16GB SD-Card and my brother has a 8 GB SD-Card.
In his phone 8 GB SD-Card doesn't work correctly but in my phone works fine. I didn't know what is damaged, his phone or SD-Card
In brother phone, SD-Card doesn't format correctly and after this process, phone won't mount SD-Card and i get notification that SD-card is empty or damaged ;/
I will trying my 16 GB SD-Card into brother phone.
Just pass by to remind you all guys the always unmount card properly b4 take it out cause it can get so corrupted and change to raw file system as me, then r.i.p to your sdcard
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lavero.burgos said:
Just pass by to remind you all guys the always unmount card properly b4 take it out cause it can get so corrupted and change to raw file system as me, then r.i.p to your sdcard
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When my SD card change to raw file system, i'm repairing her by EASEUS Partition Master