Hi all just got my X1i today and when i turn on with my att sim card in there it shows "H" and i think that means "HSDPA" but isn't the X1i only have 900/1900/2100 Mhz? why did i got "H"??
vannessfuc said:
Hi all just got my X1i today and when i turn on with my att sim card in there it shows "H" and i think that means "HSDPA" but isn't the X1i only have 900/1900/2100 Mhz? why did i got "H"??
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Of course, the X1i can have HSDPA -why not?
That has been one of the most important things to me because I have much data transfer.
what i mean was i live in US so there should be no 3G or H signal that X1i should pick up since it only has 900/1900/2100 3G bands
vannessfuc said:
what i mean was i live in US so there should be no 3G or H signal that X1i should pick up since it only has 900/1900/2100 3G bands
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Hmmm...this I cannot say because I don't know the networks in US. Isn't there another version for America -the X1a? I think I heard something like that.
Just can say, HSDPA works fine in Austria/Europe
ok as i know, US 3G should be 850 and 1900 bands and most of the Att 3G are 850 last time i had a diamond and it never went on to H or 3G at the same location, but this time it has H.
vannessfuc said:
Hi all just got my X1i today and when i turn on with my att sim card in there it shows "H" and i think that means "HSDPA" but isn't the X1i only have 900/1900/2100 Mhz? why did i got "H"??
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You say you have an X1i ?
What does Settings>System>About>Device ID say, please ?
Also, are you living in/near a city or in a regional area ?
ATT mostly uses 1900 for 3g. Also the H means you have HSDPA and HSUPA. If you only had HSDPA it would just say 3G.
yeah att use 1900 which 3g phones from outside usa can also use but
tmobile use 2100 or something
this is also the reason why people from europe can use american iphone 3g's
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I bought an Xperia X1i and get good Edge coverage in south florida. I believe there are still some 1900Mhz 3G bands around though as I randomly switch from E to G and then back to E again.. the G shows lower signal for a few seconds and then goes to E.
Is there any way to force the phone to try and use 1900Mhz 3G band? Most of the area is 850Mhz and obviously the X1i doesn't support that for 3G.
Thanks!
razorz said:
I bought an Xperia X1i and get good Edge coverage in south florida. I believe there are still some 1900Mhz 3G bands around though as I randomly switch from E to G and then back to E again.. the G shows lower signal for a few seconds and then goes to E.
Is there any way to force the phone to try and use 1900Mhz 3G band? Most of the area is 850Mhz and obviously the X1i doesn't support that for 3G.
Thanks!
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No sense forcing that band if it's not even available in the area. Here in Miami I get no 1900mhz 3G on my X1i, but I get really nice 850mhz 3G on my N95-4.
Any reason why I randomly see the G icon on the top instead of E?
razorz said:
Any reason why I randomly see the G icon on the top instead of E?
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That means GPRS instead of EDGE. I guess you're going into an area that doesn't even have EDGE access... it won't matter if you have a X1a or X1i, the GSM frequencies are the same, so the GPRS and EDGE behaviors will be the same also. Although if you have a 3G signal with the X1a, then you wouldn't really care much if you're getting only GPRS on the GSM connection
razorz said:
Is there any way to force the phone to try and use 1900Mhz 3G band? Most of the area is 850Mhz and obviously the X1i doesn't support that for 3G.
Thanks!
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I'm wondering the same as I am in the Toronto area and have access to only 850mhz EDGE. It would be great if it were possible to force the X1i to use 1900mhz UMTS so that we could possibly get on the 3G network. 850 seems to be prevalent in my area so the X1i always hops on that band.
On a side note, does anyone know if it would be possible to extract the radio rom from an X1a and flash it to an X1i? I know that HardSPL just had a breakthrough, and the only way I can think this would be impossible was if the hardware is different. (I know the CPU is 7200A vs 7201A, but not sure if the radio bands are designated in hardware or software).
I would be willing to donate if a solution was found to get the X1i working on UMTS 850, or even forcing it to 1900. I can only access EDGE at the moment, and I only get 30kbps on average which is quite ****e.
Anyways, hopefully we can make some progress with this, because I'm sure there are a lot of X1i users in North America who wanted the VGA recording capabilities, but also want 3G on UMTS 850. The VGA video encoding is near-impossible to hack back into the X1a, but I think we could go the other way around and get the X1a radio stack working on the X1i.
Otherwise, I could just be in dreamland...
Not to say its impossible. But from my experience with mobile baseband chips, the hardware is not there to support the 850MHz 3G band in the X1i. Hopefully someone can prove me wrong, but I don't think anyone will.
Thank you for this thread cuz I was about to make the same mistake as I did with the touch pro, ie. buying an Xperia. Ebay has some that says they support 850MHz but from what you folks are saying this isn't true. Is that correct? I guess I'll just a bit on this purchase.
An X1a will have 850, but at present only a few press versions are about.
I would wait until it is offically released in the US
X1 has -
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
ATT - is
850/1900
why cant i connect to 3G here in the US ?
You may have a X1i. Which has 3G bands 900/1900/2100 and you live in an area with 850MHz 3G.
Since the X1a, which is the model with the specs you posted, hasn't been released yet (apparently ships today according to Sony Style), I doubt you have the right Model. You have the X1i.
No i have
GSM 1900-850 and UMTS 1900 850
says so in my settings.. but i dunno
it reads X1
not X1i
and has an FCC ID under the battery where the S/N is
Did you get it from US? Or overseas? Europe Asia?
If not from US, then its X1i version.
And I think the X1a was just released today, right?
Sorry, but you probably have the X1i, unless you got a very lucky prerelease of the X1a which has not shipped yet. There are numerous posts that are confirming that there is only 1900 on the X1i and not 850. This means that it will work in some 3g areas, but not all.
The X1i lists all of the bands in the settings menu despite the above info. It's a bit misleading, but even though the software lists both, it doesn't always mean that the hardware supports it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2765192
Uberfishyskillz said:
says so in my settings.. but i dunno
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Hi Uber,
You have an X1 also known as X1i
The UMTS is 900/1900/2100
Europe uses UMTS 2100 so you select setting 1= 1900/2100
USA AT&T uses UMTS 1900 in some areas, while in other areas it's 850
The reason your Xperia also have setting 2 as UMTS 850/1900
is for when you travel to a UMTS 1900 country like parts of USA
But since your device doesn't have UMTS 850
it won't work in a country with UMTS 850 like
Australia, Canada and some areas of USA.
Where in USA are you located?
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im using AT&T here in the los angeles area. i got 3G no problem indoors as well as out. so hope this helps others. also...you might have to disable the hsdpa/hsupa in the advanced network. if you dont, you get the "H" symbol...which i heard is a little bit slower than 3G. hope this helps
Hi vicsingh71
Sorry to tell you but that is wrong as 3G is a max speed of 384kbps whilst HSDPA is max speed of up to 7.2mbps for download and i think HSUPA is 2mbs for uploading. Anyway super fast Data also called 3.5G is what these two are and they are both much faster and a better service then just 3G.
Marc
i also have a x1i purchased in the uk. i live in Los angeles and the 3g works perfect! The only reason sony made the x1a is to be able to sell it in the us. the x1i uses a qualcomm prossesor that is in litigation with nokia here in the us, so it cannot be sold here. that is why the downgraded the chip for the x1a. my advice is to get the x1i
Does anyone know what's the HSDPA for AT&T in US? Is it 850/1900?
I know that At&t is not 850 as people from the rest of the world who buy iphones 3g in usa can use them on 3g in their countries and only america use 3g on 850
HSDPA is 850/1900 for AT&T. Look at the specs for some of the 3G phones on their website, they should all say 850/1900 UMTS
This is what it looks like to various HTC mfg phones....in Ca.
on my ATT 8525(att wm6.0 rom)= 3G:850, HSDPA:1900
No matter which network is being used 3G is what is displayed
On my X1i only HSDPA: 1900 this connects only in the major metropolitan area! in Ca. I live in a small commuter community so, HSDPA is about 15 mile out of range north or south of me....But we do have 3G: 850(what att uses in their fringe areas) so no joy for my X1i
scl_electronics said:
This is what it looks like to various HTC mfg phones....in Ca.
on my ATT 8525(att wm6.0 rom)= 3G:850, HSDPA:1900
No matter which network is being used 3G is what is displayed
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Download Advanced Configuration Tool (search) and you can turn on HSPDA and the icon. I've read some people had trouble with the setting sticking; however I've had good luck with the stock ATT Rom and latest 1.12.25.19 (I think) radio. Didn't do any speed tests to actually see if it made a difference other than anecdotal evidence.
Among those of you with a deap knowledge of the inner working of HTC phone for 3G networks.
Is HTC doing something to phones for each carrier to lock the phone to a specific carriers 3G network and no other.
I'm asking because I was talking with a freind of mine who was given a HD2 as a part of a promotion for use on AT&T 3G network (850/2100). He uses T-Mobile and tried to get it to work with his T-Mobile SIM with no success. He also told me he had a conversation with someone from HTC that told him that he would no beable to get his HD2 to work on T-Mobile because the hardware will not work with T-Mobiles 3G network (1700/2100).
If this is the case does anyone know if it changable, is it a Firmware issue that can be changed or is it like hard wired physically?
Then the question is if we are buying these phone, some through contracts others outright, do we want to told whos service we have to use!!
Lets have some good discussion...
there are billions of threads on this.
3g is radio/hardware dependent. he'll unfortunately be stuck on EDGE.
He will have no issues using the phone with T-mobile usa. He will not get 3G because of the bands. He will just have edge. But calls, mms, text, email, and internet will all function properly.
Clarify this please
I bought my HTC HD2 in USA (unlocked) and here in Peru, where I live, I cannot get it to work with 3G. If I lived in USA, is there a way to know with what carrier I would get 3G ?
alejo1575 said:
I bought my HTC HD2 in USA (unlocked) and here in Peru, where I live, I cannot get it to work with 3G. If I lived in USA, is there a way to know with what carrier I would get 3G ?
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So you are on Claro in Peru?
For 3G you need a phone with 3G 1900 support. If it is the T-Mobile version, that would have 3G on 1700/2100 bands which would be no good. If you got an AT&T handset (850/1900) it would work for 3G for you.
You need to understand what 3G support your version of the phone has. For example mine (Telstra Australia) is 850/2100 - which would not be able to pick up 3G in your network - however it works excellent with Telstra (850) in Australia and currently working well with StarHub (2100) in Singapore.
Your phone is quad band - but that is GSM quadband not 3G - it is 3G dual band and that is what is important for your connection.
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks for list of 3G networks...
Yeah ...bad news
tallmantim said:
So you are on Claro in Peru?
For 3G you need a phone with 3G 1900 support. If it is the T-Mobile version, that would have 3G on 1700/2100 bands which would be no good. If you got an AT&T handset (850/1900) it would work for 3G for you.
You need to understand what 3G support your version of the phone has. For example mine (Telstra Australia) is 850/2100 - which would not be able to pick up 3G in your network - however it works excellent with Telstra (850) in Australia and currently working well with StarHub (2100) in Singapore.
Your phone is quad band - but that is GSM quadband not 3G - it is 3G dual band and that is what is important for your connection.
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks for list of 3G networks...
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Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
alejo1575 said:
Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
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No, but the Telstra HD2 will pick up the 850MHz signals where they exist. There is no HD2 with the 1900MHz UMTS band at the moment
lude219 said:
there are billions of threads on this.
3g is radio/hardware dependent. he'll unfortunately be stuck on EDGE.
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Would you mind pointing me in the direction of those BILLIONS of threads.
I've done searchs on hardware dependents, radio/hardware dependents, 3G radio.
There are so many way that is topic could be listed.
I'm finding nothing but my thread now just as before.
theisdept said:
a freind of mine who was given a HD2 as a part of a promotion for use on AT&T 3G network
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Then the question is if we are buying these phone, some through contracts others outright, do we want to told whos service we have to use!!
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Erm, so AT&T gives a phone, for promotion of their service, and at the same time they should allow you to use another network? You've got too much hope there...
alejo1575 said:
Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
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yea my friend my phone is , and i am here with t mobile suffering from same problem like u , i bought that phone which is compatible with Asia , not here in usa
is there way to exchange??
mine is
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps upload and 7.2 Mbps download speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are
operator dependen)
egypro said:
is there way to exchange??
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exchange your phone for cash
exchange that cash for a phone that supports the correct bands.
I recently broke my phone screen and have a year and a half left til my upgrade. In my down time i've been looking at phones from china and was wondering if this one will work on my At&t 3g?
5.7'' Unlocked 8MP Android Quad Core GPS 3G DaulSim SmartPhone AT&T T-Mobile 8GB
2g network gsm 850/900/1800/1900
3g network wcdma 850/2100
or would I be better off going with say the Blu Life View
Spectre216 said:
I recently broke my phone screen and have a year and a half left til my upgrade. In my down time i've been looking at phones from china and was wondering if this one will work on my At&t 3g?
5.7'' Unlocked 8MP Android Quad Core GPS 3G DaulSim SmartPhone AT&T T-Mobile 8GB
gsm 850/900/1800/1900
wcdma 850/2100
or would I be better off going with say the Blu Life View
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Yeah those are the right GSM bands for 3G on AT&T.
edit: You will actually get "4G" with that phone (H+)
orangekid said:
Yeah those are the right GSM bands for 3G on AT&T.
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But it would only give me 3g on 850mhz waves right? The first ones are the 2g frequencies.
Spectre216 said:
But it would only give me 3g on 850mhz waves right? The first ones are the 2g frequencies.
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In order to get 3G on AT&T, the phone has to have GSM bands of both 850 and 1900. If it only has one you get 2G.
This phone has both.
orangekid said:
In order to get 3G on AT&T, the phone has to have GSM bands of both 850 and 1900. If it only has one you get 2G.
This phone has both.
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So then even though the specs say
2g network gsm 850/900/1800/1900
3g network umts 850/2100
it still will have full 3g coverage for att?
Oh I didn't see it separated like that..
Yeah the UMTS needs to be 850 and 1900, so that is Euro 3G, but it would probably only get 2G here.
Sorry for the confusion.
ok so look for phones with both umts 850 and 1900
Spectre216 said:
ok so look for phones with both umts 850 and 1900
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That is correct.